You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson

My guests today are Knut Svanholm & Luke De Wolf.  Knut is the author of many classic Bitcoin books including the famous “Bitcoin: Everything Divided by 21 Million”. Luke is the co-author with Knut of Bitcoin: The Inverse of Clown World (see link to purchase below), and together they co-hosts the “Bitcoin Infinity Show” and publish various books. In this episode, we discuss Knut & Luke’s journeys into Bitcoin and the concept of 'Clown World.' We explore the implications of government actions, the allure of free lunches, and the importance of personal responsibility in navigating today's economic landscape. The conversation emphasizes Bitcoin as a solution for individuals seeking to opt out of the current system and build trustworthy communities. Knut and Luke discuss the transformative potential of Bitcoin, its role in fostering trust and facilitating trade without intermediaries. We discuss the notion of legal tender, Bitcoin ownership, the future of corporations in a Bitcoin economy, and the responsibilities individuals must embrace as they navigate this new financial landscape. We end with the transient nature of stablecoins and CBDCs, and Bitcoin's potential to redistribute wealth and empower individuals. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follo bstsubscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn   ►► Get 10% off on all books, inc. “The Inverse of Clown World”, using the code EFRAT https://bitcoininfinitystore.com ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events:https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events  -- LINKS -- Knut’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm Knut’s Nostr: https://primal.net/knut Luke’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/lukedewolf Luke’s Nostr: https://primal.net/luke Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 Coming Up... 01:23 Intro to Knut, Luke & "Clown World" The Book 05:07 Knut's Story 17:58 Luke's Story 26:34 Understanding Clown World and Its Implications 38:56 Solutions to Clown World: Personal Responsibility and Bitcoin 47:05 Meaning of Opting Out 51:49 Scale & Trust in Bitcoin 56:43 Legal Tender vs. Voluntarism 59:47 The Role of Bitcoin in Society 01:00:58 Bitcoin as Legal Tender, Impact of Time Theft & Taxation 01:05:58 The Pendulum of Adoption 01:09:00 Ownership vs. Possession of Bitcoin 01:11:19 Corporations & Bitcoin 01:17:24 Transitioning to a Bitcoin Standard 01:29:20 Stablecoins and CBDCs: A Transitory Phase 01:33:00 Closing Messages

I caught Eric Stacks for a mini-chat about the changes & future of monetary systems, CBDC, Bitcoin & spirituality. -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the latest "you're the voice" episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events:https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS -- Eric's Twitter: https://x.com/EricVStacks Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Michelle Weekley, a courageous woman, free speech advocate and global corruption whistleblower. Michelle is the Director of Product Development at Byte Federal, one of the first bitcoin ATM companies. Previously she spent 10+ years working with tech startups in the “startup mafia” and two years in Dubai and China working in Foreign Direct Investment.  In this episode we explore whether Data is the new oil, and how deep does global and government corruption go. We visit the intersection of politics and Bitcoin and the challenges of Bitcoin regulation. Michelle explains what’s foreign direct investment & shares her experience from working and living overseas. We discuss the impact of Covid on societal awareness, and the role of Bitcoin as a potential path to reclaiming freedom.  ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn   ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events:https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events  Nov. 2024 - Adopting Bitcoin, El Salvador (code EFRAT for 10% off) May 2025 - Bitcoin Vegas (prev. Nashville) (code EFRAT for 10% off) June 2025 - BTC Prague (code EFRAT for 10% off) -- LINKS -- Michelle’s Twitter: https://x.com/michelleweekley  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 Coming Up... 02:30 Intro & Background 03:15 Background in Foreign Direct Investment and Corruption 04:13 Data Commodification and Manipulation 07:31 Self Custody with Trezor (Ad) 08:03 Michelle At The Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) 16:27 China's Ghost Cities, Smart Cities & 15-minute Cities 23:14 Michelle's Journey Into Bitcoin 25:40 Covid As a Wake Up Call 27:55 Challenging Beliefs and Defining Freedom 32:17 Working At Byte Federal & Bitcoin Regulatory Challenges 36:35 Bitcoin & Politics 44:00 Defending Non-KYC Bitcoin & Preserving Privacy 49:09 Promoting Freedom & In-Person Communities

My guest today is Carla, the Creator-in-Chief in a duo called thecryptoc0up1e, with her husband Walker.  With degrees in journalism and business, Carla is a content creator, educator, and a young mum. Had someone educated her sooner, she would have spent less money on degrees, and more on Bitcoin. In this episode Carla’s journey and talent comes to life. We talk about her upbringing in Romania and immigration process to the US, her work and the challenges she faced while building her brand. We touch on the importance of optimism, handling criticism, and the potential of decentralized platforms like Nostr. Carla emphasizes the need for creators to “just start” and be authentic in their work, while balancing between family life and professional aspirations. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn   ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events:https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events  Nov. 2024 - Liberty in our lifetime, Prague (code Efrat76423 for 10% off) Nov. 2024 - Adopting Bitcoin, El Salvador (code EFRAT for 10% off) May 2025 - Bitcoin Vegas (prev. Nashville) (code EFRAT for 10% off) June 2025 - BTC Prague (code EFRAT for 10% off) ►► Learn more about the Nostr Booth: https://www.nostrbooth.com/  -- LINKS -- Carla’s Twitter: https://x.com/carlabitcoin  Carla’s Nostr: https://primal.net/carla  The Crypto Couple: https://www.youtube.com/@thecryptoc0up1e⁠ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 Coming Up 01:50 Intro to Carla 06:47 The Crypto Couple 09:32 Ad Break: Self-Custody with Trezor 10:04 What's Carla's Method? 11:33 Growing Up in a Post-Communist Country 15:27 Carla's Take On Today's Reality 16:01 The Power of Optimism in Making a Difference 21:02 Harnessing Skills & Experiences 23:54 Love Hate Relationship with Content Creation 25:47 Handling Criticism, Showing Up, Consistency 28:30 Song Break: Bitcoin is Defiance 30:52 Nostr 101 inc. Monetization for Content Creators 34:48 Personal Responsibility in Bitcoin 37:05 Get To Know Carla Better 43:17 Motherhood & A Message Of Hope 47:38 Final Song: Bitcoin Waits For You 49:42 The Nostr Booth Initiative

My guests today are Mike (Muzz) Jarmuz, CEO of Thunder Funder and founder of Lightning Ventures, and Nico Moran, founder and host of Simply Bitcoin - a Bitcoin media company. We met at the end of the Bitcoin Amsterdam conference and discussed: • Muzz and Nico’s experiences in the Bitcoin community • Challenges of content creation under censorship vs. Nostr  • Bitcoin evolution: a revolutionary tool for financial sovereignty vs. institutional adoption   • IMF’s recent statement to El Salvador  • The future of Bitcoin startups and investments • The next Bitcoin bull run • A call to action to take control of your financial futures through self-custody of Bitcoin ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events:https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events  Oct. 2024 - Bitcoin Amsterdam (code EFRAT for 10% off) Oct. 2024 - Plan B Forum, Lugano (code EFRAT for 10% off) Nov. 2024 - Liberty in our lifetime, Prague (code Efrat76423 for 10% off) Nov. 2024 - Adopting Bitcoin, El Salvador (code EFRAT for 10% off) May 2025 - Bitcoin Vegas (prev. Nashville) (code EFRAT for 10% off) June 2025 - BTC Prague (code EFRAT for 10% off) ►► Donate to the Nostr Booth: ⁠https://geyser.fund/project/thenostrboothinitiative⁠  Learn more: ⁠https://www.nostrbooth.com/⁠  -- LINKS -- Thunder Funder: https://thunderfunder.com/  Simply Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/c/simplybitcoin  Muzz Twitter: https://x.com/MikeJarmuz  Muzz Nostr: npub1q3kyx6e22fg9npnmgrypu35mdkpsq9zzl3jnzty85l88404sytlstdg0vl Nico’s Twitter: https://x.com/BITVOLT  Nico’s Nostr: npub1gu47n7fxfm4py48jktmu6tdqcvva4e87fntynuzzf62zxnw2e7tsc6907g  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 Coming up... 01:26 Intro to Muzz & Nico 02:20 What Did You Like at Bitcoin Amsterdam? 04:32 Exploring Bitcoin Innovations and Layer 2 Technologies 07:11 Nico's Journey into Bitcoin Media 12:25 Muzz's ThunderFunder: Democratizing Bitcoin Investments 18:47 Simply Bitcoin Banned From YouTube 24:25 The Impact of Online Censorship  29:36 The Evolution of Bitcoin: From Cypherpunk to Institutional Adoption 33:01 Bitcoin as Investment vs. Revolution: A Dual Perspective 36:50 The IMF's Fear of Bitcoin: A Case Study in El Salvador 43:40 Challenges in Bitcoin Startup Funding 45:44 Bitcoin's Cycle & Bull Run 48:03 What's Missing in the Bitcoin Media Landscape?  52:22 Messages of Hope from Nico & Muzz 55:51 The Nostr Booth Initiative

My guest today is Daniel Prince, the author of “Choose Life” and the Host of the “Once Bitten” podcast. Daniel is an advocate for home & world schooling, freedom & bitcoin. In this conversation we question and explore many things outside the “approved” sandbox of mainstream topics.  We touched on: • The education system and its historical roots in social engineering • Health, climate and food systems (amongst others) driven by economic incentives alongside mind control • Geoengineering, cloud seeing, chemtrails, SAI, SRM • Transitioning from fiat to Bitcoin • Bitcoin represents a form of truth in a world of half-truths. • Funding for educators and content creators being crucial for growth. • Hope for the future lies in critical thinking, the power of Bitcoin and human resilience. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS -- Daniel’s Twitter: https://x.com/Princey21M  Daniel’s podcast: http://www.once-bitten.com/  Daniel’s book: http://www.once-bitten.com/#/books  Daniel’s Nostr npub: npub1hghnjjpnvkz8t6gkszuf37d7puwc2qtxc65rnklqsngzv6kkug9qhhfyz2 Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 Coming up 01:07 Introduction 03:57 Funding educators & dev jobs in Bitcoin 12:23 Daniel's background 19:33 Daniel's journey into "choosing life" 30:06 Daniel's orange pill path  38:19 Starting a podcast & meeting Bitcoiners 43:55 Questioning the narrative 52:08 Exposing the Covid bluff 58:28 The medical pharmaceutical agricultural complex 1:07:05 The impact of light on DNA and consciousness 1:09:37 Israel's role in global agendas 1:11:28 Geoengineering & chemtrails 1:22:57 How is the education system enslaving humanity 1:40:19 Message of hope

My guest today is Nick Hudson, the Chairman of PANDA - an organization founded in 2020 to empower society with accurate information on the science and the drivers behind recent events, enabling individuals to exercise freedom of choice and preserve human liberties. Nick is an actuary with broad international experience in finance, who has settled into a career as a private equity investor. He is a global speaker about many topics, more recently about the recent Covid pandemic. In this conversation, we discuss the complexities surrounding the Covid narratives, management and beliefs, challenging the conventional narratives and exploring the political and media influences that shaped public perception. We discuss the implications of data manipulation, lab leak theory, treatment protocols, and the importance of decentralization and community action in addressing future crises. Nick emphasizes the need for critical thinking and a return to local solutions as a means of empowerment. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events:https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events  Oct. 2024 - Bitcoin Amsterdam (code EFRAT for 10% off) Oct. 2024 - Plan B Forum, Lugano (code EFRAT for 10% off) Nov. 2024 - Liberty in our lifetime, Prague (code Efrat76423 for 10% off) Nov. 2024 - Adopting Bitcoin, El Salvador (code EFRAT for 10% off) May 2025 - Bitcoin Vegas (prev. Nashville) (code EFRAT for 10% off) June 2025 - BTC Prague (code EFRAT for 10% off) -- LINKS – Nick’s Twitter: https://x.com/NickHudsonCT  PANDA’s Twitter: https://x.com/Pandata19  PANDA’s blog: https://pandauncut.substack.com/ PANDA’s website: https://pandata.org/  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Coming up... 01:17 Introduction 06:12 Bitcoin self-custody with Trezor 06:51 COVID-19 was a political event 10:56 Why is "pandemic" a false construct? 17:05 Covid or a flu? 18:48 Changing medical treatment during Covid 27:42 The early days of 2020: orchestrating a pandemic 29:48 PCR tests & Mass formation 33:42 Are pandemics a known scam? 36:57 No lab leak 40:53 Delegitimizing dissident voices 49:07 Decentralized solutions & the white pill 1:01:01 Closing words

My guest today is Mike Benz, a free speech & censorship expert, the Executive Director of Foundation for Freedom Online, a nonprofit watchdog dedicated to protecting digital liberties and restoring the free and open Internet. Benz was in charge of the cyber portfolio for the US State Department during the Trump administration, where he served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Communications and Information Technology. That role included formulating and negotiating US policy on Internet diplomacy issues as well as interfacing with private industry and civil society in the Big Tech space. Prior to that, Benz served as a White House speechwriter for President Trump and advised on technology policy.  In this conversation, we discuss censorship & free speech, U.S. foreign policy including Israel’s role. We dive into the censorship industrial complex, the mechanics behind censorship tactics, and the implications for free speech in the digital age. We also touch on the intersection of technology and free speech, particularly in relation to Bitcoin & Nostr, and end on a message of hope for a future of freedom and digital liberties. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Donate to the Nostr Booth: ⁠https://geyser.fund/project/thenostrboothinitiative⁠ ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events:https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events  Oct. 2024 - Bitcoin Amsterdam (code EFRAT for 10% off) Oct. 2024 - Plan B Forum, Lugano (code EFRAT for 10% off) Nov. 2024 - Liberty in our lifetime, Prague (code Efrat76423 for 10% off) Nov. 2024 - Adopting Bitcoin, El Salvador (code EFRAT for 10% off) May 2025 - Bitcoin Vegas (prev. Nashville) (code EFRAT for 10% off) June 2025 - BTC Prague (code EFRAT for 10% off) -- LINKS -- Mike’s Twitter: https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber   Mike’s Foundation for Freedom Online: https://foundationforfreedomonline.com/  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Coming Up... 01:16 Intro & Background on Mike 03:31 True Purpose of the Middle East War 08:14 Self-Custody with Trezor (Ad Break) 08:44 Current US Administration Pushing for an Israeli Regime Change? 13:23 The Censorship Industrial Complex: Controlling the Flow of Information 15:47 Netanyahu, Soros, Gas & Poland 19:29 Oct. 7th - Speculations 23:55 Speaking To American Interests 28:50 Prolonging The Middle East War 32:44 "Whole of Society" Defining Censorship & Free Speech 36:25 Sticks & Carrots: The Relationship Between Big Government & Big Corporations 42:28 Whole of Society in Action 50:00 The Redefinition of Democracy: Consensus of Institutions vs. Individuals 55:57 Unveiling Authoritarian Structures & Fight for Freedom 1:00:53 Centralized vs. Decentralized Tech & Freedom of Speech 1:04:51 Nostr & Freedom Tech 1:08:26 Stablecoins Impact on USD, US Global Dominance & Bitcoin 1:16:38 Pro-Freedom vs. Pro-Decentralization (& Nostr & Jack Dorsey) 1:19:25 Mike's Talk at the Bitcoin 2024 Conference 1:23:58 Closing Message: We're Winning

My guest today is Ed Dowd, a human I am truly inspired by, who spoke out bravely since Covid started. Ed is a founding partner with Phinance Technologies and a financial analyst. He has worked on Wall Street most of his career for firms such as HSBC and others and most notably at BlackRock as a portfolio manager where he managed a $14 billion Growth equity portfolio for ten years. He’s the author of “Cause Unknown: The Epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 & 2022”.  In this conversation, we discuss the intricate connections between Covid19, the global economy, and the role of central banks. Ed shares insights on the financial implications of Covid, the wealth transfer that occurred, impacts on the middle class, and the challenges facing the banking sector. We expand on Ed’s C19 injections damage report, which includes injuries (adverse reactions), disabilities and deaths and their economic impacts. Ed bravely shares his personal awakening story - triggered by his physical and mental health conditions. We discuss life and thoughts as energy, the role of evil in today’s reality, and the importance of staying present and individual responsibility in these turbulent times. We touch on the tendency to rely on saviours, while neglecting personal empowerment, sovereignty and community building. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS -- ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS -- Ed’s Twitter: https://x.com/DowdEdward  Ed’s Website: https://www.humanityprojects.info/ Phinance Technologies: https://phinancetechnologies.com/  Ed’s Book: https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781648210730/cause-unknown/  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS -- 00:00 Coming Up... 01:04 Intro & Background 03:51 Connection Between COVID & Global Economy 07:08 The Role of Central Banks & Debt-Based Fiat System 09:58 Trezor Ad Break 10:29 Geopolitical Distractions & Financial Crisis 14:05 Japanese Yen Carry Trade & Global Debt 19:55 Banking Sector Challenges & Predictions 24:34 Covid - The Excuse For Wealth Transfer 26:27 C19 Injections Data - Impacts on Society & Economy  31:33 Short Clip of Ed’s Book 32:14 C19 - Court of Public Opinion 34:52 Ed's Journey of Awakening 37:38 Living in the Present Moment 41:57 Our Energy & Thoughts 48:36 Ed's Purpose & Gift to the World 55:59 Saviours, Gurus & Staying Vigilant 01:01:11 Closing & Message of Hope

My guest today is Prof. Steven Koonin, co-hosted with Tom Nelson - host of The Tom Nelson Podcast. Prof. Koonin is an American theoretical physicist and former director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at NYU, as well as a professor in the Department of Civil and Urban Engineering at NYU School of Engineering. In the past he was the Chief Scientist of BP’s oil and gas division, served as Under Secretary for Science in the Department of Energy, in the Obama administration, and was the vice-president of Caltech, one of the most prestigious scientific institutes in the world. Steven is the author of the book “Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters”, where he argues that while there are some basic facts about climate change that experts agree upon, the meaning of those facts is not so settled, and mainstream scientific studies do not support the notion that there is any kind of climate crisis at all. This conversation discusses Climate Realism - the sane approach to the “Climate Change” alarmism, and the role of media in shaping public perception. We touched on topics such as the use of the term 'climate denier,' bias in the energy industry, the challenges faced by young scientists who question the climate narrative, the role of journalists in spreading misinformation, and the influence of organizations like the UN and Covering Climate Now. We talked about the viral documentary 'Climate the Movie' and censorship attempts. Lastly we touched on the funding dynamic in climate research, and geoengineering / chemtrails. Steven emphasizes the need for open scientific discussion and the importance of prudence in considering these interventions. We end with the challenges & optimism in maintaining integrity and truth-telling in a corrupted world. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS – Prof. Koonin’s book - Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters: https://www.amazon.com.au/Unsettled-Climate-Science-Doesnt-Matters/dp/1950665798   Climate: The Movie: https://rumble.com/v4klh96-climate-the-movie-the-cold-truth.html  Tom’s Twitter: https://x.com/TomANelson  Tom’s Substack: https://tomn.substack.com/  Tom’s links: https://linktr.ee/tomanelson1  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Coming Up 01:14 Introductions 03:54 Challenging the Term 'Climate Denier' 06:43 The Climate Discussion "Silence" 09:03 Impacts on Those Speaking Out 10:53 Steven's Evolution to Climate Realism 16:33 Misrepresentation of Facts 21:37 Organized Online Propaganda 27:34 Climate - The Movie 32:03 Geoengineering & Chemtrails 41:10 Red Team, Blue Team 44:33 Dating CO2 in Deep Ice 45:55 Playing Bongos with Richard Feynman 49:06 Message of Hope

🎙️ This is a guest episode - Peter McIlvenna interviewed me on his “Hearts of Oak” podcast, and I am sharing it with you on “You’re The Voice”.  Peter wrote: “Efrat Fenigson, a marketing expert and Bitcoin maximalist, shares insights from her encounter with Michael Saylor at a Bitcoin conference, discussing the risks of advocating for cryptocurrency amid economic instability. She addresses rising threats to free speech and government control over digital platforms, highlighting decentralized solutions like Nostr that preserve user data and social connections. Efrat advocates for financial sovereignty through Bitcoin and micropayments, linking these innovations to broader themes of freedom and personal rights, while also reflecting on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s support for Bitcoin as a pivotal stance in today's socio-political climate.” ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS – Connect with Hearts of Oak: 𝕏                          x.com/HeartsofOakUK WEBSITE            heartsofoak.org/ SHOP                  heartsofoak.org/shop/⁩ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Isabella Santos, content creator & educator, co-founder of GetBased - a media company, and the founder of BTC Isla in Isla Mujeres, an initiative to create a Bitcoin circular economy with the vision to empower locals to utilize Bitcoin as a tool for freedom. In this episode Isabella shares her upbringing, career journey and her work around bringing financial literacy and Bitcoin circular economy to Peru, Mexico and the world. She discusses the corrupt political situation in Peru and the lack of basic needs for many communities, and hence the importance of teaching them about Bitcoin in simple terms and breaking down the barriers to entry. We also touch on the corrupt nature of the media landscape, control and censorship of social media platforms and the importance of mindset change, critical thinking and personal responsibility in navigating today's society. . ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS – GetBased on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@getbasedtv  Peru’s Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWMHLF-OEg   Isabella’s Twitter: https://x.com/isabellasg3  Isabella’s Nostr: npub1aftmyhm62lrp6lwsha3yzyjy5kqdvuy7g23qg28a8q0cnmudv0ds0sdcke  Donate to BTC Isla: https://geyser.fund/project/btcisla  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Coming Up... 01:18 Background & Journey 07:24 Career in Media 13:33 First Bitcoin Conference 19:15 Simplifying Bitcoin for Everyone 21:39 Embracing Your Unique Voice 23:51 Cult Vs Community 26:04 GetBased and Documentaries 29:24 Peru and Bitcoin Circular Economy 38:10 BTC Isla - Isabella's School 46:01 The Corrupted Media Landscape 50:10 NOSTR and The Future of Media 51:44 The Dark Side of Social Medias 54:55 Censorship & Mis/Disinformation 1:03:48 Waking Up and Taking Actions in Life 1:10:26 Closing Words from Isabella

This is a guest episode - Robin Seyr interviewed me on his podcast, and I decided to share it on “You’re The Voice”.  Our conversation explores the relationship between fiat currency and wars, with a focus on the situation in Israel. It is suggested that fiat currency enables wars and that the modern society's incentive structure encourages negative behavior. The conversation also delves into the potential impact of a Bitcoin standard on wars, with the belief that it could change the incentive structure and promote fairness. The importance of humility and kindness in the Bitcoin industry is highlighted, as well as the potential for the industry to inspire positive change. Efrat Fenigson discusses the importance of spirituality and reconnecting with oneself, the need for women to promote themselves and take initiative, and the value of teaching children about inflation and the flaws of the fiat system. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS – Robin’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RobinSeyr  Robin’s Twitter: https://x.com/RobinSeyr  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Intro by Efrat 01:30 Discussion on the Current Situation in Israel 05:00 The Incentive Structure of Modern Society and its Relationship with War 10:⁠00 The Manipulation of Fear in Supporting Wars 24:00 The Potential Impact of a Bitcoin Standard on the Incentive Structure 42:00 The Bitcoin Startup Ecosystem and the Importance of Higher Thresholds 43:43 Efrat’s Takeaways from Her Podcasts 45:20 Staying Humble, Being Kind & Communicative 52:30 Exploring Efrat’s Podcast Topics 1:01:⁠30 The Importance of Female Representation in Podcasting 1:19:00 Spirituality as a Research Topic for Efrat 1:26:00 Teaching Kids About Bitcoin: Starting with Inflation

My guest today is Dr. Lia Naor, a visionary for a new mental health system, who founded the “Healing Space” after Oct. 7th as a life-saving, nature-based trauma-healing ER for survivors. Lia has a PhD in Human Development and Counselling, she researches positive transformation and has a private practice as a nature based therapist. Lia trains therapists and educators through “ways of knowing” - her center for nature based therapy, as well as programs centered on the process of human development through initiation toward fulfilling potential and deepening our humanity.  In this episode, we discuss the importance of creating healing centers that focus on holistic well-being and support individuals. Lia’s vision is of a new mental health system that values connection, acceptance, and personal growth out of the breakdown, through embracing pain, and choosing life.  2 parts to this episode:  - Part 1 - we discuss the process of healing traumas based on Lia’s approach and work;  - Part 2 (timecode 00:34) - we go back to Dec. 2023 where I filmed Lia’s work in the Healing Space - a special center in Israel for trauma work and healing - for the Oct. 7th massacre & Nova party survivors.   * Donations I received during Oct. 7th went towards the production of this episode and the episode with Dror Ashuah.  ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS – Lia’s website: https://www.leanaor.com/home-english About the Healing Space: https://www.leanaor.com/healingspace Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Coming Up 01:45 Intro & Background 03:50 Nature-Based Healing from Oct. 7th Till Now 08:05 Difference Between Post-Trauma & Post-Traumatic Growth 15:55 Lia Describes The Healing Process 24:15 Building a New Mental Health System 29:00 Call for Contributions for Healing Spaces 34:00 Introduction to the Healing Space 36:15 The Need for Community-Based Trauma Centers 39:00 Immediate Response and the Importance of Timing 41:50 The Integrative Approach to Healing 44:10 The Role of Volunteers and Therapists 46:20 Processing Trauma and Finding Identity 49:45 The Process of Creating Healing Spaces  52:40 The Journey of Personal Healing and Transformation 58:35 Lia's Upbringing & Inspiration For Her Work 1:01:50 Clip of The Healing Center

My guest today is Dror Ashuah, an internationally recognized inspirational speaker, author and founder of retreat centers in the US, Mexico and Italy. His book series “Conversation with Angels” is a collection of messages on spiritual awakening received by Dror from the Angelic spiritual realm in preparation for this unprecedented time of global change. Dror has a Master’s degree from Harvard University in Human Development and Psychology. His worldwide travels combined with studies in mysticism, astrology, Reiki, crystals, and Shamanism have all contributed to his personal understanding of the messages about human consciousness. Dror relays a non-linear worldview about the nature of life on Earth and our greater purpose in the Universe: awakening to our divinity and understanding our spiritual role on this earthly journey. This episode has 2 parts:  - Part 1 - we discuss the process of awakening in depth;  - Part 2 (timecode 1:00:38) - we go back to Dec. 2023 where I filmed Dror’s work in the Healing Center - a special center in Israel for trauma work and healing - for the Oct. 7th massacre & Nova party survivors.   In this episode, we discuss the evolution of consciousness, and spiritual awakening. Dror emphasizes that awakening is a process that involves moving through fear, letting go of old patterns, and playing one's true self. We touch on the current time period as a unique opportunity for humanity's awakening and the battle between dark and light, while exploring the battle for human attention and consciousness. We discuss how different forces and areas of life manipulate and harvest our energy, and the importance of taking responsibility for our reality. We also touch on the dangers of consuming fear-based content and the power of choice in disconnecting from systems that do not serve us. We conclude with a reminder to find the gift in fear and to embrace the process of spiritual death and rebirth. We then move to part 2 which details the work Dror has been doing with the caregivers of the Healing Center in the weeks following Oct. 7th, to support survivors dealing with shock and trauma.  ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  -- LINKS – Dror’s retreats: www.v-hives.com  Dror’s books: https://www.andsobeit.com/  Dror’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drorbashuah/  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up... 01:20 - Intro & Background on Dror 04:00 - Evolution of Consciousness 11:10 - What Kind of Awakening Is Happening Now? 16:35 - Schumann Resonance - Earth is You 21:50 - How Does One "Awaken"? 25:10 - The True War Is On Attention 28:30 - Spiritual Death & Rebirth 32:25 - The Battle On Consciousness & Efrat's Calling 36:45 - Disconnecting from Matrix & Reconnecting to Yourself 39:20 - From Red Pill To Black Pill 43:20 - Taking Responsibility for Our Reality 53:20 - The Body As The Energy Vessel 58:15 - Finding the Gift in Fear 1:00:38 - Dror's Work At The Healing Center 1:03:00 - Clearing Heavy Energy for Caregivers 1:11:00 - The Healing Space

My guest today is Aleks Svetski, an entrepreneur, co-author of the best selling book, the “UnCommunist Manifesto” and the upcoming "Bushido of Bitcoin” book, as well as the founder of Satlantis - a travel & community social network built on Nostr. In 2018, he founded the #1 Collectible-Publication called “the bitcoin times”, and the world’s first Bitcoin-only savings app: Amber. Svetski is also building open source Bitcoin & AI tools with the Spirit of Satoshi project. This episode covers Svetski’s background, his journey into Bitcoin, his views on authoritarianism and totalitarianism, and the virtues that are important for a thriving society. Svetski breaks the status quo, and believes in authoritative hierarchies and strong leadership, while criticizing the flattening of society and equality. He argues that Bitcoin will bring back feudalism and that elitism is necessary for a functioning society. The conversation explores individual empowerment, the limitations of the masses and the importance of beauty. Svetski critiques the hype around AI, highlighting its limitations and the potential dangers of regulation. We conclude with the connection between beauty and the rejection of communism.  ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): ⁠https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn⁠  -- LINKS – What’s Satlantis? Presentation from BTC Prague: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndpff0JkvEo⁠  Svetski’s Twitter:⁠ ⁠⁠https://x.com/SvetskiWrites⁠  Satlantis’ Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/JoinSatlantis⁠  “The Bushido of Bitcoin” book: ⁠https://www.bushidoofbitcoin.com/⁠  Efrat's Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/efenigson⁠ Efrat's Telegram:⁠ https://t.me/efenigson⁠ Watch/listen on all platforms:⁠ https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice⁠ Support Efrat's work:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin:⁠ https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson⁠ -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Coming Up... 01:00 Intro & Background on Svetski 07:40 Discovering Bitcoin 13:30 Svetski's Covid Experience 20:20 Authoritarianism vs Totalitarianism 25:00 Uber Money 31:50 The Importance of Excellence and Inequality 37:50 AI - Misconceptions & Svetski's Take 47:00 AI and Universal Basic Income (UBI) 50:00 The Significance of Visceral Learning 53:10 The Role of Beauty in Society 58:10 Message of Hope: Be Powerful, Ditch Guilt

My guest today is Matej Zak, the CEO of Trezor, a Bitcoin & Crypto hardware wallet company. We discussed the importance of self-custody of Bitcoin and the new products and services that Trezor has launched: The Trezor Safe 5 and “Trezor Expert''. We talked about Trezor’s company culture and open positions. Matej explains the key differences between holding an ETF and self-custody, highlighting the benefits of using a hardware wallet. We touched on the challenges of regulation and the attack on privacy, the challenges of operating a hardware business, and Trezor’s business cycles that correlate with Bitcoin’s bull & bear cycles. We also discussed governments and politicians reactions to Bitcoin, and ended with Bitcoin startups created as an antidote to Communism: Matej believes the Czech Republic has a high number of Bitcoin startups due to the people’s spirit and appreciation of freedom and sovereignty in light of its past communist oppressive regime.  ►► Trezor’s Safe 5 - use my code for a 5% discount: ⁠⁠https://affil.trezor.io/SHZa⁠⁠  ►► Trezor Expert - 20% off for a limited time: ⁠⁠https://affil.trezor.io/SHZZ⁠⁠  ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow/subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Behind the Scenes... 00:40 Introduction & Background 04:50 Matej’s Journey to CEO 09:40 Productivity vs. 9-5 Jobs 13:15 New: Trezor Safe 5 16:20 New: "Trezor Expert" Service  19:15 Regulation and Self-Custody of Bitcoin 23:50 The Benefits of Self-Custody vs. ETF'ing 29:50 Developing User-Friendly Hardware Wallets  32:05 Bitcoin-Centric & Supporting Other Cryptocurrencies 33:45 Lobbying Efforts with Institutions? 35:05 Politicians Endorsing Self-Custody 37:40 Challenges in Hardware Businesses: Global Chip Shortage 42:40 Being Bootstrapped & Holding Bitcoin Reserves  44:44 Communism & Bitcoin Startups ► Matej’s talk from BTC Prague (June 2024): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVQ_Cy1f1VI  -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Join me at Bitcoin Nashville with 10% off tickets (use code BTCIL): https://glnk.io/lr8q9/btcil    -- LINKS – Matej’s Twitter: https://x.com/matej_zak  Trezor’s Twitter: https://x.com/trezor  Trezor’s website: https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Brandon Green, Chief of Staff to the CEO and Head of Events at BTC Inc. He started as an intern in May 2017 directly out of college and has been promoted up through the company. He now leads the conference arm of the business, while also serving on the Board of Advisors for the University of Alabama. In this episode Brandon shares his journey into the world of Bitcoin, the growth of BTC Inc, the impact of the US elections on the Bitcoin market and the importance of privacy. We also discuss ETFs and their potential risks and benefits, the importance of smart people joining the Bitcoin community, the impact of Bitcoin on the US economy, the role of stablecoins in the digital monetary system, and the upcoming conference in Nashville. The conversation ends with a message of hope derived from the power of the people to create constructive systems. ►► Join me at Bitcoin Nashville with 10% off tickets (use code BTCIL): ⁠https://glnk.io/lr8q9/btcil⁠   ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up... 01:25 - Intro & Background 05:25 - Ads Break: Trezor, BTC Inc. 07:45 - The Growth of Bitcoin Conferences 16:15 - US Elections' Impact on the Bitcoin Market 21:15 - Tightening Regulation on Bitcoin Privacy 27:00 - Brandon's Take on ETFs 32:05 - The Role of Financial Institutions in the Bitcoin Market 34:10 - Smart People & Their Job Choices 39:20 - Bitcoin's Adoption & Perception 43:10 - The Role of Stablecoins in the Digital Monetary System 53:40 - The Audience, Speakers & Experiences at Bitcoin Nashville 1:01:35 - A Message of Hope: The Power of People in Creating Constructive Systems -- SPONSORS – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Join me at Bitcoin Nashville with 10% off tickets (use code BTCIL): ⁠⁠https://glnk.io/lr8q9/btcil⁠⁠   -- LINKS – Brandon’s Twitter: https://x.com/BranBTC Bitcoin Nashville Twitter: https://x.com/TheBitcoinConf Bitcoin Nashville website: https://b.tc/conference Edward Snowden’s talk from Bitcoin Amsterdam (Oct. 2023): ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-fQ7i8q5C8⁠  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Erik Cason, a Crypto-anarchist, cypherpunk, and iconoclast, who believes in sovereignty through cryptography. He’s a Bitcoin educator and the author of “Cryptosovereignty: The Encrypted Political Philosophy of Bitcoin”.  In this episode we explore the themes of resistance, courage, and questioning, while highlighting the awakening of consciousness and the pursuit of truth. We delve into the concept of anarchism and its relationship to Bitcoin and cryptography, the importance of anonymity and sovereignty in the digital age and the potential for a new political paradigm. Erik touches on the limitations of academia and the need for open dialogue and exploration of forbidden thinkers and ideas. We explore the importance of critical thinking, the dangers of complacency, and the probable potential for a dystopian future. We observe the phenomena of waking up from societal conditioning and reclaiming sovereignty, and use examples such as Covid & Climate.  Erik believes that Bitcoin provides a pathway to freedom and empowerment, but warns against the financialization of Bitcoin. He encourages the development of circular economies and the utilization of Bitcoin for direct peer-to-peer transactions. Despite the challenges ahead, he’s hopeful for a present and future where individuals break free from systems of power and control. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 Intro & Background 05:18 Ad Break (Trezor, Bitcoin Nashville) 08:18 Erik's Attraction to Philosophy 09:48 Covid Memory Holes 12:18 Anarchism Explained 15:45 Cryptography as State Protection  19:08 Deeper Meaning of Life & Great Awakening 26:38 The Dangers of Not Facing Inconvenient Truth 31:22 The Evolution of Modern Slavery Systems 34:15 Wake Up & Get Out 38:55 Questioning & Being With The Unknown 43:48 Climate Change - Example For Lack of Questioning 45:40 Can There Be Anonymity With Bitcoin? 46:48 Financialization of Bitcoin with ETFs - A Danger? 51:42 Prediction of Bitcoin's Future 58:42 Hope for a Brighter Future -- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Join me at Bitcoin Nashville with 10% off tickets (use code BTCIL): https://glnk.io/lr8q9/btcil  ►► Join me at Mallorca Blockchain Days with 50 euro off tickets (use code efrat): https://bit.ly/4bvDjwc    -- LINKS – Erik’s Twitter: https://x.com/erikcason  Erik’s Website: https://cryptosovereignty.org/  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice Support Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Michael Saylor, an American entrepreneur and the executive chairman and co-founder of MicroStrategy, a public software and services company that recently announced it is also a bitcoin development company. MicroStrategy is undoubtedly the pioneer in holding the company’s reserves in bitcoin. Till recently, Saylor was MicroStrategy's CEO for 33 years. He’s considered to be one of Bitcoin’s biggest advocates, helping many people on their journey into Bitcoin. This episode revolves around the complexities of power, technology, and the role of Bitcoin in today’s world. We discussed the trend of centralizing power in the hands of a few, the benefits and drawbacks of big tech systems, the role of governments, and the need for decentralization. Michael explored the nature of Bitcoin as a digital asset or property, highlighting its global appeal and advantages over physical property. He touched on the role of ETFs, on MicroStrategy’s Bitcoin standard strategy, and concluded with the observation that the road to bitcoin adoption is paved with love and patience.  Insights from this episode:  Bitcoin's role in the global economy is like a mycelium network, a virtuous network, connecting and benefiting everyone.  ETFs play a crucial role in Bitcoin's reality by adding value, solving various problems.  The spread of ETFs globally will continue, with each country likely to have its own ETF.  MicroStrategy's strategy for raising capital to buy Bitcoin serves as an important case study.   Spreading Bitcoin with love and patience is essential for adoption. To be honest, I had a gazillion questions for Michael, but finally I had to choose only a few, and I wish I had 3 more hours to interview him... Perhaps next time!   -- CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up... 01:35 - Introduction of Michael Saylor 02:45 - Centralization of Power - The Good, The Bad & The Ugly 09:20 - Ad Break (Trezor, Bitcoin Nashville) 10:35 - The "Twitter-cane" 21:10 - Bitcoin: A Digital Asset & Property. Or Currency? 34:00 - ETFs Role in the Game of Bitcoin 42:25 - MicroStrategy's Capital-Raising Strategy for Bitcoin 48:15 - Saylor Approached by Other CEOs? 50:35 - Spreading Bitcoin with Love ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, subscribe and support my work. Thank you! Support Efrat's work:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson⁠⁠⁠ Support Efrat with Bitcoin:⁠⁠ https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson⁠ -- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES – ►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn  ►► Join me at Bitcoin Nashville with 10% off tickets (use code BTCIL): https://glnk.io/lr8q9/btcil  ►► Join me at Mallorca Blockchain Days with 50 euro off tickets (use code efrat): https://bit.ly/4bvDjwc    -- LINKS – Michael’s Twitter: https://x.com/saylor  MicroStrategy’s Website: https://www.microstrategy.com/  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson Efrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigson Watch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice