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Hillary Clinton sits down for candid, in-depth, and sometimes hilarious conversations with people she finds fascinating. With help from her guests, Hillary will tackle the topics that shape our lives, from faith to the pressing political issues of our time to cooking tips for the cooking-challenged.

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Just over a month ago, Antony Blinken was sworn in as America’s 71st Secretary of State. It’s a role Hillary knows well, having served under President Barack Obama. In this conversation, Secretary Blinken shares his priorities for the coming months—from the refugee and climate crises to our relationships with Russia and China. He and Hillary also swap advice, memories, and a few funny stories from their years of service. Prior to being appointed United States Secretary of State, Secretary Blinken served in senior National Security and State Department positions under the Obama and Clinton administrations. Previously, he worked as the staff director of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee with President Biden, who was the senior Democrat on the committee up until his vice-presidency.  Full transcript here.
Over the last several years, we’ve learned the hard way that disinformation, when combined with the power and reach of social media, can radicalize, divide, and destabilize communities -- and even entire countries. In this episode, Hillary talks with social media and technology expert Tristan Harris about how we got here, and what we need to do to mitigate the influence of Big Tech on our democracy. She also speaks with award-winning Filipino-American journalist Maria Ressa about why the Philippines’ shift away from democracy and toward authoritarianism should serve as a warning to us all. Tristan Harris spent three years as a Google Design Ethicist developing a framework for how technology should “ethically” steer the thoughts and actions of billions of people from screens. A featured subject in the Netflix documentary, The Social Dilemma, Tristan is now co-founder & president of the Center for Humane Technology, whose mission is to reverse “human downgrading” and re-align technology with humanity. He co-hosts the Center for Humane Technology's Your Undivided Attention podcast with co-founder Aza Raskin. For her courage and work on disinformation and “fake news,” Maria Ressa was named TIME Magazine’s 2018 Person of the Year, and has also been named one of TIME’s Most Influential Women of the Century. A journalist in Asia for nearly 35 years, Maria co-founded Rappler, the top digital-only news site in the Philippines. Maria has endured constant political harassment and arrests by the Duterte government, forced to post bail eight times to stay free. In June of 2020, Maria was found guilty of Cyber Libel charges which includes a sentence of up to six years in prison. Maria is profiled in Frontline’s A Thousand Cuts, directed by Ramona Diaz, and now streaming online on pbs.org/frontline and YouTube. The film is also available to stream in the PBS Video App and on PBS Documentaries Prime Video Channel. Full transcript here.
Hillary opens this season of You and Me Both with something we could all use right about now: hope. Joining her is Youth Poet Laureate Amanda Gorman, who inspired so many people with her stirring poem, The Hill We Climb, on Inauguration Day. Amanda talks with Hillary about what it means to tell the story of America, her earliest poems, and how her relationship with her twin sister shaped her language. Together, they strategize about Amanda’s 2036 presidential campaign. Amanda Gorman is the first-ever National Youth Poet Laureate. She recently performed at President Biden's Inauguration and the Super Bowl LV. The special edition of her inaugural poem, The Hill We Climb, is available in March. Her debut picture book, Change Sings, and first poetry collection, The Hill We Climb and Other Poems, will be out this September.
2020 is behind us, but boy, do we have our work cut out for us as we move forward. In season two of You and Me Both, Hillary enlists some of the smartest problem-solvers she knows as she digs into what the past four years have taught us and what it’ll take to come back together as a country. She’ll also tackle the fun stuff: binge-worthy TV, women who inspire, sports, and how to make our homes more homey when we’re stuck inside. Don’t miss it!
The week after the attack on the Capitol, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi joins Hillary for a candid, no-holds-barred conversation. In a detailed firsthand account of what Speaker Pelosi and her House members experienced that day, she shares how she felt when she learned what was happening, her takeaways from her call with Vice President Pence amidst the chaos and violence, and why she was so determined to resume congressional business the second it was safe to do so. They also talk about what needs to happen to ensure that those responsible are held to account, how we got here, and what a new administration can do to address the many challenges facing the country.  Nancy Pelosi is the 52nd Speaker of the House (and first woman to serve as Speaker), recently re-elected for the 117th Congress. Nancy has represented California’s 12th Congressional District in San Francisco for more than 30 years. She has led House Democrats for more than 18 years in her roles as Minority Whip, Minority Leader, and Leader of the House Democratic Congress.  Related: Hillary’s Washington Post op-ed on the attack and what needs to happen next.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/11/hillary-clinton-impeach-trump-capitol-white-supremacy/ Read a full transcript here.
Books: They can transport us, entertain us, show us who we can be, and even get us through hard times. In this episode, Hillary sits down with three fellow book-lovers: mystery novelist (and friend) Louise Penny; return guest Stacey Abrams in her capacity as romance writer (!); and Marley Dias, the 15-year-old founder of the #1000BlackGirlBooks campaign.  Louise Penny is an award-winning and bestselling author. The latest installment in her Chief Inspector Armand Gamache series, All the Devils Are Here, was published earlier this year. Stacey Abrams was the 2018 Democratic nominee for Governor of Georgia and previously served as the minority leader in the Georgia House of Representatives. As the founder of Fair Fight and Fair Count, she has been a major force in the push to advance voting rights and ensure fair elections. She’s also a romance mystery novelist: under the pen name Selena Montgomery, Stacey has published eight books, including Reckless. Marley Dias is the 15-year old founder of #1000BlackGirlBooks campaign, which collects and donates books featuring Black female protagonists to counter the lack of diversity in children’s literature. She is also the author of Marley Dias Gets It Done: And So Can You!, and the host and producer of the Netflix series Bookmarks: Celebrating Black Voices.  You can find a full transcript of the episode here.
The recent spike in Americans suffering from anxiety and depression makes evident that COVID-19 has impacted our health in more ways than one. In this episode, Hillary talks with three people who have spoken openly about their own mental health struggles: Tony Award-winner Audra McDonald, veterans advocate Jason Kander, and author Allie Brosh. Audra McDonald is a singer and actor who has won a record-breaking six Tony Awards, two Grammy Awards, and an Emmy. Onstage, she’s performed in numerous plays, musicals, and operas, including Carousel, Ragtime, and Porgy & Bess. On TV, she portrayed Dr. Naomi Bennett on the medical drama Private Practice, and in 2018, she joined the cast of the CBS All Access’ The Good Fight. Her latest solo album is Sing Happy. Jason Kander is a veterans advocate and a former Army Captain who served in Afghanistan. He was elected to the Missouri state legislature in 2008 and as Missouri Secretary of State in 2012. Jason is the founder of Let America Vote, an organization that fights to protect voting rights; the national expansion director for the Veterans Community Project; and co-host of the political podcast Majority 54. His memoir, Outside the Wire: Ten Lessons I’ve Learned in Everyday Courage, was a bestseller. Allie Brosh is a former blogger and the author of the New York Times #1 bestsellers Hyperbole and a Half (2013) and Solutions and Other Problems, published earlier this year. Find a full transcript here.
Hillary is joined by chefs Samin Nosrat and José Andrés to discuss all things food, from the struggle too many Americans are facing to feed their families to the lighter side of things – like what it takes to make delicious beans. Then, Hillary chats with Rocco DeFazio, the owner of one of her favorite pizzerias, about how his restaurant has adjusted to the pandemic.  Samin Nosrat is a cook, teacher, author of the James Beard Award-winning cookbook, Salt Fat Acid Heat, and host of the Netflix documentary series based on that book. She is an “Eat” columnist at The New York Times Magazine. She also co-hosts the podcast Home Cooking, in which she and Hrishikesh Hirway answer questions about how to cook during a global pandemic.  José Andrés is a bestselling author, educator, humanitarian, chef, and owner of ThinkFoodGroup, a collective of nearly thirty restaurants. He is also the founder of World Central Kitchen, a nonprofit specializing in delivering food relief in the wake of natural and humanitarian disasters including the coronavirus pandemic.  Rocco DeFazio is the owner of DeFazio’s Imports and DeFazio’s Wood Fired Pizzeria in Troy, New York.  You can find a full transcript here.
Between rising COVID-19 numbers and the 2020 election, some of the most urgent issues in our country are unfolding on the ground in Michigan. On the heels of announcing new precautions to keep people safe, Governor Gretchen Whitmer joins Hillary to discuss what leadership looks like, how our country can heal from the last four years, and of course, Thanksgiving Day plans. Gretchen Whitmer is the 48th governor of Michigan since January 2019. Before taking office, she served as the Minority Leader in the Michigan State Senate from 2006 to 2015.  Read a full transcript here.
How did Joe Biden and Kamala Harris win one of the most important elections in American history? Hillary dives into how it all played out with voting rights activist Stacey Abrams and journalists Ari Berman and Soledad O’Brien. Stacey Abrams was the 2018 Democratic nominee for Governor of Georgia and previously served as the minority leader in the Georgia House of Representatives. As the founder of Fair Fight and Fair Count, she has been a major force in the push to advance voting rights and ensure fair elections. Her new book is Our Time is Now: Power, Purpose, and the Fight for a Fair America. Ari Berman is a senior reporter at Mother Jones, covering voting rights. He is the author of the book Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America (finalist, National Book Critics Circle Award for nonfiction), Herding Donkeys: The Fight to Rebuild the Democratic Party and Reshape American Politics, and the forthcoming Minority Rule – about efforts by white conservatives to entrench power in the face of a massive demographic and political shift. Soledad O’Brien is an award-winning documentarian, journalist, author, and philanthropist, who founded Soledad O’Brien Productions, a multi-platform media production company dedicated to telling empowering and authentic stories on a range of social issues. She anchors and produces the Hearst TV program “Matter of Fact with Soledad O’Brien” and is a correspondent for HBO Real Sports.  Full transcript is here.
How are people who've worked their hearts out in this election feeling as we head into the final hours? In this episode, Hillary finds out with her special co-host, actor and advocate America Ferrera. They ask seven guests how they’re spending the day, how they’re trying (and maybe failing) to keep calm, and most importantly, why they’re making sure to vote. They speak with 17-year-old poll worker and student activist Mallory Rogers, first-time voter Justin Blackman, actor Kal Penn, organizer Emily Ruiz, candidate Brandon Thomas, political analyst Zerlina Maxwell, and bestselling author Glennon Doyle.  America Ferrera is a producer, director, award-winning actor, and political activist. She has long worked to increase Latinx voter turnout as a spokesperson for Voto Latino and launched She Se Puede with a coalition of Latina activists in September 2020. Mallory Rogers is a 17-year-old student activist and senior at Rome High School in Rome, Georgia. Mallory is serving as a poll worker this election. Justin Blackman is an 18-year-old based in North Carolina who is voting for the first time in a presidential election. When he was 16, he garnered national attention for tweeting a video of himself after realizing he was the only student at his school to participate in the 2018 national school walkout against gun violence. Kal Penn is an actor, comedian, and activist. He’s known for his roles in the cult-classic comedy trilogy Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle, and on the TV show House. He’s also been involved in politics as President Obama’s former Associate Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs. Kal recently encouraged people to get out and vote through the Freeform show Kal Penn Approves This Message.   Emmy Ruiz is a community organizer and political consultant who first got involved in politics as a field organizer in Nevada for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign. She is currently a partner at NEWCO Strategies, a strategic political consulting firm with offices in Austin, Texas, and Washington, DC.  Brandon Thomas is a candidate for the seat representing District 49 in the Tennessee State House of Representatives. If elected, he will be the first openly gay member of the Tennessee General Assembly and the first Black representative for his county. Zerlina Maxwell is a political analyst, writer, TV host, and activist who served as the director of progressive media for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign. She wrote The End of White Politics: How to Heal Our Liberal Divide, and serves as the host of the new Peacock series, Zerlina, and the radio show, Signal Boost, for SiriusXM.  Glennon Doyle is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Untamed, which has sold over one million copies. She is also the author of Love Warrior and Carry On, Warrior. Glennon is the founder and president of Together Rising, an all-women led nonprofit organization that has revolutionized grassroots philanthropy. She lives in Florida with her wife, World Cup soccer champion Abby Wambach, and three children. You can find a full transcript here.
America is often described as a land of opportunity where anyone can succeed -- but is that actually the case? In this episode, Hillary is joined by “Queer Eye” star, author, and newly minted U.S. citizen Tan France; community advocate Lorella Praeli; and economist Raj Chetty to talk about what the American Dream means to them personally and whether it’s still attainable. Of course, Tan also provides expert feedback on Hillary’s presidential campaign wardrobe. Tan France is a fashion designer and television personality who grew up in the United Kingdom, the son of South Asian immigrants. He is best known for his role as one of the Fab Five on Netflix’s “Queer Eye.” His memoir, Naturally Tan, was published in 2019. Lorella Praeli was born in Peru and grew up undocumented in Connecticut. She’s now the co-president of Community Change, an advocacy group that works on behalf of low-income Americans. Raj Chetty is a MacArthur “Genius” grant-winning economist who has received wide acclaim for his research on equality and opportunity in America. He is the director of Harvard’s Opportunity Insights lab. A full transcript is here.
Nearly all of us have experienced grief this year – whether it’s the loss of a loved one, the loss of a job, or the loss of normalcy. In this episode, Hillary talks with stand-up comedian Patton Oswalt and Sybrina Fulton, advocate and mother of Trayvon Martin, about finding purpose after a terrible loss.  Patton Oswalt is an award-winning stand-up comedian, actor, and writer. After the tragic death of his wife Michelle McNamara, he finished the book she was working on: I’ll Be Gone in the Dark: The Search for the Golden State Killer. The book was recently turned into an HBO documentary series of the same name. His newest stand-up special, I Love Everything, is out on Netflix. Sybrina Fulton is an advocate and the mother of Trayvon Martin, who was shot and killed in 2012. Along with Trayvon’s father, Tracy Martin, Sybrina co-founded The Trayvon Martin Foundation to empower families who have lost children to gun violence. Sybrina recently campaigned for a seat on the Miami-Dade County Commission, ultimately losing by less than one percent. A full transcript is here.
2020 has been a challenging year by any measure. In this episode, comedian Sarah Cooper ( famous for her lip-sync parodies of President Trump); Grit author Angela Duckworth; and long distance swimmer Diana Nyad share with Hillary their stories of summoning strength, motivation, and humor in the face of obstacles. Sarah Cooper is a standup comedian and author of How to Be Successful Without Hurting Men’s Feelings and 100 Tricks to Appear Smart in Meetings. Her Netflix comedy special “Sarah Cooper: Everything’s Fine” comes out on October 27. Angela Duckworth is a research psychologist and author. Her 2016 book Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance was a #1 New York Times bestseller. Diana Nyad is a long-distance swimmer who in 2013, at age 64, succeeded on her fifth attempt to swim over one hundred miles from Cuba to Florida without a shark cage — the first person to have done so. She chronicles that swim in her book Find a Way. You can find more information on her walking and clean water initiatives here. A full transcript is here.
By now it’s an all-too-familiar phenomenon: A woman who dares to defy stereotypes or step out of her “place” gets called “shrill,” “bossy,” “ambitious,” or worse. But more often than not, those are the women who get the job done. Hillary talks to feminist activist Gloria Steinem about her life and career, and sits down with pediatrician Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, who spoke out about the Flint Water Crisis. With each of these gutsy women, she asks what -- or who -- made them think they could make a difference, and how they overcame the obstacles they faced along the way.  Gloria Steinem is a feminist journalist and activist, best known as a pioneer of the women’s rights movement in the 1970s. She began her career in 1962 with groundbreaking pieces about contraception and about her experience going undercover as a Playboy Bunny. Later, she founded Ms. Magazine and was a major figure in the fight for the Equal Rights Amendment. Her memoir, My Life on the Road, was recently turned into a film called The Glorias starring Julianne Moore and Alicia Vikander. Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha is a pediatrician and public health advocate who in 2014 helped expose toxic levels of lead in the water in Flint, Michigan. Her book, What the Eyes Don’t See: A Story of Crisis, Resistance, and Hope in an American City, recounts her experience of the crisis. A full transcript is here.
In this midweek special, Hillary sits down with U.S. Senator and Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris to talk about their families, their shared admiration for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and making history. And they laugh. A lot. Read a full transcript here.
Voting is hugely important – especially right now. In this episode, Hillary is joined by musician John Legend and voting rights advocate Stacey Abrams to discuss the ongoing struggle to expand voting rights, and their thoughts as America approaches a hugely consequential election. Hillary also reflects on the legacies of her heroes and friends Congressman John Lewis and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. John Legend is an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony Award-winning musician and the founder of Free America, a criminal justice reform advocacy organization. He recently helped launch “Free The Vote,” a fundraising campaign to pay the fines and fees preventing ex-felons in Florida from casting their ballot. He released his newest album, Bigger Love, in June.  Stacey Abrams was the 2018 Democratic nominee for Governor of Georgia and previously served as the minority leader in the Georgia House of Representatives. As the founder of Fair Fight and Fair Count, she has been a major force in the push to advance voting rights and ensure fair elections. Her new book is Our Time is Now: Power, Purpose, and the Fight for a Fair America. Full transcript is here.
Hillary’s personal faith has been a guiding force throughout her life. In this episode, she is joined by journalist Krista Tippett, social justice activist Reverend William Barber II, and comedian Aasif Mandvi to explore how faith has shaped their public and private lives, and how it can help heal our nation in these difficult times. Reverend William Barber II is a MacArthur Genius grant-winning minister, author, and activist who organized the Moral Mondays movement in North Carolina and is now Co-Chair of the Poor People’s Campaign. He is also the longtime pastor of Greenleaf Christian Church in Goldsboro, North Carolina. His new book is We Are Called To Be A Movement and is a sermon about how we can all make the change we need. Krista Tippett is a journalist, author, and host of the Peabody Award-winning weekly national public radio show, On Being, which explores “what it means to be human, and how we want to live.”  Aasif Mandvi is an actor and comedian who has made us laugh as a political correspondent on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and as the writer and star of the Peabody Award-winning web series Halal in the Family. He currently stars in the CBS show Evil. A full transcript is here.
Hillary Clinton sits down for candid, in-depth, and sometimes hilarious conversations with people she finds fascinating. With help from her guests, Hillary will tackle the topics that shape our lives, from faith to the pressing political issues of our time to cooking tips for the cooking-challenged.
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Dylan B

this podcast is for losers who need to hear more lies from the left . hold on , let me guess ! 1 . trump bad 2. biden good 3. white rich people bad (but not us) 4. racism is everywhere, even if l cant explain it 5. California is a beautiful homeless liberal utopia , that we want to export to every state . 6. America is so bad , China is good there ya go

Feb 21st
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Buck Fruckster

Why on earth would anyone listen to you for brightness or reason during these times? You should be in jail.

Feb 10th
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Tonya Doty

I LOVE your podcast! Your guests are fabulous, your topics relevant, and it's SO good to hear you being a part of public discourse again (albeit on a smaller stage)! I DO have a complaint though... it's not enough! I feel like your conversations are too short. They feel truncated. You just get started on the meat of an issue and then we're suddenly done. Please give us more!

Jan 29th
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Tonya Doty

I LOVE your podcast! Your guests are fabulous, your topics relevant, and it's SO good to hear you being a part of public discourse again (albeit on a smaller stage)! I DO have a complaint though... it's not enough! I feel like your conversations are too short. They feel truncated. You just get started on the meat of an issue and then we're suddenly done. Please give us more!

Jan 29th
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No Name

Go away you narcissist, powerful, evil, demon. I do not consent to your ruling from the shadows. Leave us humans alone.

Jan 24th
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Ruth Demerse

this reminds me of old eggless hens at a laundry mat.

Jan 20th
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Sandra MARGESON

fuck her

Jan 20th
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Zsazsa

Guess he's got to work again, since Hillary lost all of her endorsements. Nobody likes a fake Spanish "princess" who can't say cucumber 🤣

Jan 14th
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Angela Biondo

great podcast, love learning more about you & your guests. where is the one with Cher though?? 😃

Dec 19th
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chris James

lol who the fuck is listening to this 😂

Dec 5th
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Vety Villatoro

Loved Asif's definition of faith! The Reverand was amazing. Thank you!

Oct 30th
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Marisa Hope Chirico

I am so glad to be told about your podcasts, Hillary! Your strengths are an inspiration to us all🌞

Oct 29th
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janet dollar

Listen up all you Hillary haters: no one is forcing you to listen to her so keep your comments to yourself please. Oh, and spell her name right...your ignorance is showing. Thank you and have a nice day!

Oct 16th
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Pete Jackson King

Absolutely LOVE the podcast!! Thank you for still being willing to put yourself out there <3

Oct 13th
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Nick March Hare

This is a joke right? I mean it gave me a good chuckle. I should let my fish have a podcast and watch it go viral.

Oct 7th
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Prayer Talk

Why is this a thing... 🙄

Oct 4th
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Mary Bennett

Thank you, Madam Secretary, and Senator Harris (Vice President Harris). You give me hope in a time of such despair. The country had gone so far backward from where we were, that the current situation seems insurmountable. Thank you for making me smile and giving me hope.

Oct 1st
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LynnNicks 🇬🇧🇺🇸

Love you, Queen 👑 #imstillwithher

Sep 30th
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Lacille Traylor

Congratulations Hillary! You're tha baddest bitch I know and I love you. Can't wait to listen in and get your perspective on everything!!!

Sep 30th
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Pamela Alcid

MORE Stacey Abrams!!

Sep 29th
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