What if the very mindset that built your success is now the thing keeping you stuck? In this episode, Jerome Myers, America’s Leading Exit Authority, breaks down the five most common objections founders tell themselves after exiting their businesses and reveals what they truly are: fear wearing logic’s clothes. From waiting for clarity to fearing the wrong move, Jerome reframes each belief and shares how to move from hesitation to evolution. If you’ve built your empire and now find yourself wondering what’s next, this episode is your mirror, not your map for rediscovering meaning and momentum beyond the business. [00:00 – 01:00] The Portal Beyond the Exit Exiting isn’t the end — it’s the beginning of personal evolution Control and certainty no longer serve this new chapter The Founder’s Exit Paradox: the same habits that brought success now create stagnation [01:00 – 02:00] Objection #1: “I Just Need More Clarity” “I need clarity” is often avoidance disguised as prudence Movement creates clarity — not waiting Frameworks like The Next Intensive exist to turn confusion into alignment [02:00 – 03:00] Objection #2: “I Can Figure This Out on My Own” You can’t solve internal questions with external tools Post-exit growth requires mirrors, not maps You’ve always had advisors for your business — why not for your life? [03:00 – 03:55] Objection #3: “Now’s Not the Right Time” Waiting for “the right time” only hardens your old identity The longer you delay, the harder reinvention becomes The right time isn’t when things settle — it’s when you decide to evolve [03:55 – 04:47] Objection #4: “I’m Not Sure This Is for Me” Restlessness isn’t ingratitude — it’s potential trying to get your attention You’re not broken for wanting more; you’re built for evolution Purpose isn’t a “should”; it’s a signal [04:47 – 05:00] Objection #5: “I Don’t Want to Make the Wrong Move” This stage is about rediscovering meaning, not managing risk Progress, not perfection, is the new currency There are no wrong moves — only feedback Key Quotes “You need mirrors, not maps.” - Jerome Myers “The right time isn’t when things settle down — it’s when you realize they won’t until you do.” - Jerome Myers Join industry leaders shaping the future and secure your spot at the Exit Planning Summit today! https://exitplanningsummit.com/speakers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Most founders chase the exit as if it’s the ultimate destination. But what happens when the deal closes and you’re left asking, "Who am I without my business?" In this crossover episode from The Amazing Marketing Show, Jerome Myers joins hosts Dmitri Smirnov and Chris Gray to reveal why 75 percent of business owners regret selling their companies, and what the other 25 percent did differently. Jerome shares hard-won wisdom on exit readiness, identity, purpose, and redefining wealth beyond money. He invites listeners to see freedom not as walking away from something, but as stepping into the next meaningful chapter. 00:00 – 04:15 The Reality Behind Business Exits Only 25% of founders who sell their company feel no regret Success without purpose can lead to depression, not freedom True exit readiness requires planning on both financial and emotional fronts 04:16 – 09:30 Loneliness After the Exit Up to 60% of personal relationships fade after leaving a company Without intentional community, many founders experience isolation Redefine your “Top Five” relationships for the post-exit phase 09:31 – 17:45 Identity, Self-Acceptance, and the Founder’s Paradox Many founders only feel loved through achievement—a “scar of success” Real acceptance begins with forgiveness and releasing old expectations Your worth isn’t tied to titles, deals, or results—it’s intrinsic 17:46 – 26:15 From Exit to Impact Jerome shares his own painful corporate exit and the six centers of doubt: identity, relationships, health, prosperity, motivation, and significance Purpose-driven legacy starts when you exit to something, not from it “Enough” isn’t stagnation, it’s the foundation of real freedom 26:16 – 34:00 Freedom, Legacy, and the Power of Choice Real wealth is the ability to choose how you use your time, talent, and treasure Money is a tool; freedom is the measure True success is living a life that others want to honor and remember 34:01 – 47:00 Exit Readiness and Higher-Level Leadership Jerome’s Exit Readiness Assessment measures seven areas of preparedness Great leaders focus on the upper tiers of Maslow’s hierarchy: impact, fulfillment, transcendence Marketing that proves understanding creates trust faster than persuasion. Key Quotes: “Only 25% of people who sell their company don’t regret it.” - Jerome Myers “It’s not about doing more, it’s about becoming more. - Jerome Myers Connect with the Amazing Marketing Show! Website: https://amazingmarketingshow.com/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTBn-qDCWMXR7jrHiE1YvXg Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Exiting a business is never just about the deal, it’s about who you become on the other side. In this episode, Jerome Myers, America’s Leading Exit Authority, explores the unseen emotional and psychological realities of selling a company. From the illusion of control to the founder’s exit paradox, Jerome explains why independence can’t carry you through the transition and why trust, guidance, and proven frameworks are essential for a fulfilling next chapter. If you’re approaching an exit, or even just thinking about it, this conversation will challenge your assumptions and invite you to prepare in a way that safeguards not only your wealth, but also your peace, relationships, and purpose. [00:00 – 01:09] Introduction to Business Exits Exits are more than transactions; they’re transformations Many founders believe they can handle the process alone Independence created success, but it can also create blind spots [01:09 – 03:06] Illusion of Control & The Trust Gap Control brings results in business, but doesn’t guarantee clarity in exits Spreadsheets can model finances, but not emotions Past betrayals create fear and isolation, blocking growth Real safety comes from trust—self, others, and frameworks [03:06 – 04:47] The Founder’s Exit Paradox & The Guarantee Fallacy Selling your company also means letting go of the version of yourself it represents Perfect deals can still leave founders unfulfilled Chasing guarantees fuels regret; preparation reduces it Exiting alone costs more than money—it risks peace, clarity, and purpose [04:47 – 06:26] Common Objections and Misconceptions Privacy vs. secrecy: why keeping plans hidden creates isolation “No one understands my business,”—but the process is about you, not the business “I just need one more deal”—a dangerous trap leading to burnout“I don’t trust anyone”—trust is the doorway to healing and legacy [06:26 –08:11] Invitation to Action & Next Steps Independence built your empire, but interdependence builds legacy You don’t need another consultant—you need a guide and a framework Take the Exit Readiness Assessment to discover where you stand Explore The Next Intensive to gain clarity in the emotional, strategic, and financial dimensions of your transition Key Quotes: “The exit isn’t just a transaction, it’s a transformation, and no one transforms alone.” - Jerome Myers “Independence built your empire, but interdependence will build your legacy.” - Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter?Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
You got the money. Now what? That’s the question too many founders face when the wire hits and the silence sets in. In this episode of Your Next, the mic flips, as Jeroeme sits down with JR Lay for a no-BS conversation about what really happens after you sell your business. Spoiler: it’s not champagne and sunsets. The discussion revolves around The Founder’s Exit Paradox, that sinking feeling of confusion, disconnection, and loss that arises when the work is gone, yet you're still searching for meaning and worth. This is for every visionary who built a mountain, reached the top, and thought, “Is this it?” Jerome shares his raw, personal journey through post-exit chaos, identity unraveling, and the scars that success leaves behind, and how he helps other high-achieving founders find meaning after the money. If you’re building toward an exit, don’t just listen to this episode; study it. [00:00 – 12:00] Time Over Money Why tracking days off beats tracking dollars The hidden cost of chasing success How entrepreneurs trade presence for provision Time is your most valuable asset; treat it like one [12:01 – 20:00] After the Exit What no one tells you about the emotional crash The Founder’s Exit Paradox: money in the bank, purpose on empty Identity, fear, and the myth of “finally relaxing” Why exiting from is never enough, you need an exit to [20:01 – 33:00] Energy, Identity, and Attachment How mismanaged energy leads to implosion The trap of tying your self-worth to your business Childhood attachment styles are playing out in your exit From significance through status, to significance through service [33:01 – End] Scars, Significance, and Exit Readiness The 5 hidden scars driving high achievers Why success without purpose leaves you empty Exit readiness is personal, not just financial Take the free assessment to map your next chapter Key Quotes: “Money is just a tool, no different than hammers or saws in a shed.” – Jerome Myers “The title that you had gave you the illusion of significance.” – Jerome Myers Connect with JR! LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jrwlay YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelUpBusinessVideos Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Selling your business won’t save you if you’re not ready for what comes after, and most founders aren’t. Less than 1% of women founders successfully exit their businesses. That story is changing, and Carrie Kerpen is leading the movement. In this episode of Your Next, I sit down with Carrie Kerpen, founder of The Whisper Group and a successful agency exit veteran, to explore how women are rewriting the rules of business, building companies designed to sell, and creating exits that unlock freedom, legacy, and purpose. We go deep into the reality of life after a big sale: the loss of identity, the challenges of integration, and the path to reclaiming power on your own terms. If you’ve ever wondered what happens after the wire hits, this conversation will change how you think about exits. Press play now, and step into the conversation that could redefine how you see your next chapter. [00:00 – 12:00] The Agency and the Exit Carrie’s journey from co-founding Likable to an 8-figure exit How Built to Sell became her roadmap to acquisition Why do women approach exits differently than men [12:01 – 20:00] Life After the Sale The emotional crash that follows even a successful exit The reality of working for “the mothership” after selling Why community and support matter most post-exit [20:01 – 25:00] The 3 Ds + B Every Founder Faces The 3 Ds that threaten every founder: Divorce, Death, and Disability, plus the B: Burnout Why lump sums bring more fear than freedom if you’re not prepared How The Whisper Group equips women for the full journey, not just the transaction [25:01 – End] Building a Sellable Business and Lasting Legacy The three biggest mistakes that kill value Carrie’s WHISPER framework for creating a sellable business Why legacy is built through resilience, profit, and purpose Key Quotes: “Nobody was really speaking to them in a way that matters.” - Carrie Kerpen “Women-owned businesses, fully female-founded businesses, account for fewer than 1% of total exits.” - Carrie Kerpen Connect with Carrie! LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/carriekerpen Website: carriekerpen.com/ Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
You planned the deal. You closed the transaction. Everyone’s congratulating you. But then... silence. In this revealing solo episode, Jerome Myers explores the Founder’s Exit Paradox, that unexpected disconnect between financial success and emotional fulfillment. Through real stories and powerful insights, Jerome shares why so many high-performing founders regret their exits and what you can do to avoid that fate. If you’ve sold your business or are planning to, this episode offers the roadmap to reclaim clarity, purpose, and peace on the other side. Tune in now to discover what you really need to prepare for, before, during, and after the exit. [00:00 – 02:00] The Regret No One Talks About 75% of founders regret their exit Why selling your business is more than just a financial move The Exit Paradox explained [02:01 – 04:45] Four Founders, Same Pattern James, Sarah, David, and Maria: different exits, same emotional fallout What financial success can't fix How identity, relationships, and purpose suffer when unprepared [04:46 – 06:30] What Most Advisors Miss Why traditional deal-making leaves founders unready The 6 Centers of Doubt: the real threat to your post-exit fulfillment The emotional cost of ignoring the inner transition [06:31 – 08:30] Exit to Excellence: A Different Approach Readiness Assessments, NEO Profiles, and the Freedom Compass Measuring clarity, alignment, and energy, not just money A roadmap to identity and legacy beyond the business [08:31 – End] Real Results, Real Transformation 30–50% jump in exit readiness in 90 days 80% report reduced stress and fear of irrelevance Why clarity and confidence, not just capital, define a successful exit Key Quotes: “Freedom stretches in every direction, but that very freedom can feel like a prison.” – Jerome Myers “You don’t cling to the wreckage of your old identity. You step through the portal into freedom: clear, confident, and aligned.” – Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
You sold it. You won. So why does it still feel hollow? In this deeply emotional and life-changing solo episode, Jerome Myers dismantles one of the most seductive lies in high performance: “I’ll be happy when…” Through the raw and revealing story of James, a founder who reached the summit only to find it silent, Jerome explores the emotional collapse that often follows external success. This isn’t just about exits. It’s about identity, meaning, and the quiet ache of disconnection. This episode is your invitation to pause, reflect, and realign. If you've ever said, “I’ll be happy when…” this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew about success and might just change your life. [00:00 – 03:00] The Happiness Horizon Trap “I’ll be happy when…” - the emotional illusion Why milestone-chasing masks deeper emptiness The horizon always moves until you stop chasing [03:01 – 06:30] The Exit Paradox in Action Why freedom often feels like invisibility The emotional fallout after success What founders truly miss after the deal closes [06:31 – 08:30] Timing vs. Readiness When market windows close before you’re “ready” How waiting for happiness can cost you more than money A lesson from 2021–2023 exits you can’t ignore [08:31 – 10:30] Stop Chasing. Start Aligning Why alignment is the new definition of wealth The emotional safety in clarity 3 powerful questions to reconnect with what matters [10:31 – End] The Path to Real Fulfillment From exit strategy to life strategy The tools that create emotional stability post-exit Design a legacy rooted in influence, not just income Key Quotes: “I've seen founders who waited for the exit to fix everything, only to wake up with money in the bank and the emptiness in their hearts.” - Jerome Myers “Happiness doesn't live in the next milestone. It lives in clarity. It lives in alignment, and it lives in the influence you create every day.” – Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Wealth fades. Legacy endures when it’s rooted in more than money. In this episode, Jerome Myers sits down with Charlie Garcia, a West Point graduate, decorated combat veteran, entrepreneur, and managing member of R360, one of the world’s most exclusive communities of ultra-successful families. Charlie introduces the F.I.S.H.E.S. Framework (Financial, Intellectual, Social, Human, Emotional, and Spiritual capital), a guide for shaping a legacy that goes beyond accumulation into alignment and impact. From his military discipline to global philanthropy and the creation of R360, Charlie reveals why true wealth is measured not in what you keep, but in what you give, nurture, and leave behind. Tune in now to learn how to move from business owner to Legacy Builder. [00:00 – 12:00] Introducing Charlie Garcia & the F.I.S.H.E.S. Framework Charlie’s journey from military service to entrepreneurship and leadership at R360 The six forms of capital that shape a flourishing life Why legacy is about alignment, not accumulation [12:01 – 24:00] Writing, Speaking, and the Power of Ideas Charlie’s upcoming book and the role of storytelling in shaping culture MarketWatch column “Charlie Garcia’s Market Sense” and his satirical approach to finance How humor and honesty open deeper conversations about wealth and meaning [24:01 – 36:00] R360: The World’s Most Exclusive Legacy Community What sets R360 apart, and why even billionaires get turned down Designing 100-year family plans across financial, emotional, and spiritual dimensions Preparing the next generation through the Rising Leader Program [36:01 – 48:00] Purpose, Resilience, and the Next Mountain How members reinvent themselves after business exits Using entrepreneurial skills for philanthropy and global impact Why purpose, not profit, fuels the next chapter [48:01 – End] Faith, Mentorship, and Building a Force for Good Charlie’s perspective on Matthew 25:14 and God-given purpose Mentorship, coaching, and accountability as keys to growth Inspiring stories of resilience and possibility Key Quotes: “Legacy is not about accumulation, but alignment.” – Charlie Garcia “Everybody comes with a unique gift they can use to help others.” – Charlie Garcia Connect with Charlie! LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/charlespgarcia Website: http://R360Global.com Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The greatest risk to your business exit is relational. When you exit your business, it’s not just a transaction. It is an emotional shift that can ripple through your marriage, your family, and your identity. In this episode, Jerome Myers speaks with Ruschelle Khanna, psychotherapist and author of Inherited Trauma and Family Wealth, about the emotional complexity of exiting a business and why unspoken dynamics can quietly sabotage even the best-laid plans. Listen now to discover how to protect both your legacy and your relationships. [00:00 – 13:00] Exit as Emotional Death Why a business exit mirrors grief and identity loss Common signs of resistance: sabotage, denial, and clinging to control The emotional weight on both the exiting founder and the heir [13:01 – 26:00] Marriage, Misalignment, and Mutual Resentment How exits reveal cracks in communication and shared meaning What Gottman’s 7 Principles reveal about post-exit stress Why many spouses feel excluded, even when they say they’re fine [26:01 – 36:00] Emotional Needs and Adult Tantrums HALT (Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired): decoding emotional outbursts Reparenting your partner: how trauma shows up in conflict Why emotional regulation is critical in post-exit life [36:01 – 50:00] Family Tension and Generational Distance How adult children emotionally react to legacy decisions Spotting the signs of withdrawal, resentment, or performative agreement Avoidance, silence, and the cost of not asking hard questions [50:01 – End] Trauma, Transition, and Transcendence The 5 trauma liabilities: chaos, procrastination, fawning, and more Inheriting more than money, modeling emotional clarity Choosing joy, presence, and intentionality in your next chapter Key Quotes: “A business exit is a tiny death.” – Ruschelle Khanna “The definition of a healthy mind is to be able to hold onto two ideas at the same time.” – Ruschelle Khanna Connect with Ruschelle! LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ruschelle-khanna-lifestyle-for-legacy Website: https://www.lifestyleforlegacy.com/ Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The biggest threat to your family business is the unspoken tension inside your family. Jerome Myers talks with Amy Wirtz, senior consultant at The Family Business Consulting Group and Exit Planner of the Year, about navigating family succession with clarity and compassion. With deep experience as a lawyer, mediator, and strategist, Amy offers real-world wisdom for business owners struggling to pass the torch without burning bridges. Listen now for frameworks that demystify legacy, reveal blind spots, and offer new ways forward. [00:00 – 12:00] Family Businesses Aren’t Broken Why family businesses matter more than you think The emotional dream behind succession What sparks (and delays) transition planning Owners think about it long before they talk about it Outside advisors often prompt the first move [12:01 – 24:00] Power, Voice, and Money Ownership is power Equal shares ≠ equal results Gifting vs earning the business Who gets to vote, who gets a say When silence costs more than taxes [24:01 – 36:00] Ego, Exit, and Expectations Letting go is harder than you expect The myth of "work optional" retirement Why selling to your kids might be best Salary vs financial freedom What happens when you don't diversify [36:01 – 46:00] New Generation, New Vision Founders vs. next-gen work styles The “lazy” label, and what’s behind it Redefining hustle in a digital world Lifestyle over grind Learning from past downturns [46:01 – End] The Process Behind the Plan Amy’s consulting roadmap Building healthy governance systems Coaching families through tough transitions Why change takes time Empowering families to lead their future Key Quotes: “You work for your money. You don’t get money just because you’re an owner.” – Amy Wirtz “There is help out there for family businesses. They're really smart, capable people who actually support the backbone of the economy.” – Amy Wirtz Connect with Amy! Website: thefbcg.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amywirtzcepa Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What happens when the finish line finally arrives, only to leave you asking, What now? Jerome Myers talks with Tad Fallows, founder of Long Angle, about building and selling a company on his terms and the surprising challenges of life after the deal. They reveal the truth about “work optional” wealth, finding meaning beyond money, and what comes after you win. Listen now to uncover life after success. [00:00 – 12:00] From Harvard to High Growth Tad’s unconventional path from Ivy League to McKinsey to co-founding a SaaS company in an unlikely market Why early success is more about relationships than résumés How bootstrapping through the 2008 downturn shaped his approach to risk [12:01 – 24:00] Scaling Without Selling Out Growing 40–50% every year without venture capital Why an unsolicited offer wasn’t enough to pull the trigger How a year of preparation expanded their market story and increased exit value [24:01 – 36:00] The Exit on His Terms Choosing the right buyer over the highest bidder Why does Tad want all of his chips off the table, not half The surprising upside of post-sale stock grants [36:01 – 46:00] Building Long Angle The sudden wealth questions no one prepares you for: estate planning, alternative assets, and raising grounded kids Why peer-to-peer wisdom beats Wall Street advice How a Slack channel for friends became a thriving founder community [46:01 – End] Redefining “What’s Next” The Founder’s Exit Paradox: when money solves the math but not the meaning Why purpose doesn’t have to be permanent to be valid Finding fulfillment in family, community, and building again Key Quotes: “If you have 10 times as much wealth, you’re probably 2x as happy.” – Tad Fallows “The hardest part of the exit is what happens next.” – Tad Fallows Connect with Tad: Website: longangle.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/fallows Don’t miss The Entrepreneur Event of the Season, the $100M Money Models Book Launch streaming live on YouTube, Aug 16, 2025. Register Here for Free 👉 https://shop.acquisition.com/pages/register?via=jerome11 Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
You built it. You exited. Now what? In this raw and revelatory solo episode, Jerome Myers introduces the Founder’s Trauma Tree: a framework that exposes the emotional crash most Apex performers aren’t prepared for after the exit. Through the real-life story of James, a founder who spiraled into anxiety six months after his 8-figure win, Jerome reveals why success doesn't silence inner wounds; it amplifies them. And more importantly, how you can begin to heal. There’s a story beneath your success: one about pressure, pain, and the parts of you that never got to breathe. This is where healing begins. Success checked every box, but something still feels off? This is the conversation that explains why. [00:00 – 04:30] When Success Feels Like Collapse The post-exit silence no one prepares you for Why founders often mistake trauma symptoms for personality Introducing the Founder’s Exit Paradox [04:31 – 08:00] The Founder’s Trauma Tree PTSD, anxiety, addiction: what lies beneath these symptoms A visual model of the emotional fallout after high achievement Why does unprocessed pain surface only after the pressure lifts [08:01 – 10:30] Coping or Healing? The 4 escape strategies: busyness, deal-chasing, giving, isolation Why these distractions work—until they don’t The lie of high performance as emotional wellness [10:31 – 14:30] Growing the Healing Tree What emotional integration means post-exit From numbness to nourishment: James’ healing journey How to grow peace, purpose, and legacy from the inside out [14:31 – End] Beyond the Paradox The 6 Centers of Doubt: self-image, relationships, work, health, prosperity, significance From survival mode to alignment An invitation to stop pretending and start becoming Key Quotes: “What you’re feeling isn’t failure, it’s feedback.” – Jerome Myers “Your identity is not your title. Your value is not your valuation. Your worth was never up for negotiation.” – Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What happens when the success you’ve chased your whole life finally shows up, and it doesn’t feel like enough? In this thought-provoking episode, Jerome Myers talks with Calvin Correli, founder of Simplero and long-time spiritual explorer, about what comes after the exit. They talk through the emotional crash that can follow financial success, why most people are secretly afraid of feeling safe, and how founders can stop waiting for money to permit them to feel fulfilled. This episode is about more than business. It’s about learning how to live well, right now. Listen in and start rewriting the story you’ve been living by. [00:00 – 12:00] The $300M Moment That Didn’t Fix Anything The email that started it all: a founder with a $300M offer and deep unhappiness Why the usual playbook of success stops working after a big win How entrepreneurship often reflects our search for something deeper [12:01 – 24:00] Hidden Fears and Emotional Shortcuts Why do people put off feeling the way they want to feel How beliefs around safety and worth keep high performers stuck What happens when your goal no longer motivates you [24:01 – 36:00] Awareness, Emotions, and Real Power A simple shift that changes how you relate to anger, fear, and desire Why it’s dangerous to say “I am” instead of “I feel” How to stop outsourcing your emotional life to outcomes [36:01 – 46:00] Letting Go of the Hustle How Calvin shifted from chasing money to building around connection Why building a company can be more about intimacy than income What changes when you don’t need to prove anything anymore [46:01 – End] What Purpose Looks Like Calvin’s three-level framework for living with purpose Why your presence might be your greatest gift How founders can move forward without needing another title, deal, or goal Key Quotes: “Money is just a way for people to say: I value what you do. That’s all.” - Calvin Correli “There's no happiness in the future. The future never comes. The only time is now.” - Calvin Correli Connect with Calvin! Website: https://www.calvincorreli.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/truecalvin Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Most high achievers are dangerously unprepared for life after the exit. In this revealing episode, Jerome Myers sits down with Dr. Michelle Fritsch, a board-certified geriatric pharmacist and founder of Propel Your Wellness, to discuss the hidden dangers that follow success. From loss of identity to relationship breakdowns and rapid health decline, Dr. Fritsch exposes what happens after the business card disappears, and what you can do to prevent it. If you think your freedom phase will last forever, think again. Tune in now to learn how to design a life of wellness, purpose, and clarity beyond the exit. [00:00 – 12:00] Freedom Doesn’t Last Forever Why most people hit a wall 6–12 months after their exit The false security of hobbies, travel, and to-do lists Preventable reasons brilliant people fade after retirement [12:01 – 24:00] The Dangerous Assumptions We Carry Why doctors don’t know as much about you as you think The unexpected collapse of key relationships Early signals that your mind and body aren’t prepared [24:01 – 36:00] Tools for Clarity: Life Purpose Scan + Wellness Portfolio Assessing purpose, values, and emotional resilience The risk of losing cognitive sharpness after an exit Designing your next chapter around contribution, not consumption [36:01 – 46:00] Stress, Scams, and Silent Suffering Health risks tied to unmanaged stress Sophisticated scams targeting lonely, high-net-worth retirees When the physical body limits the life you imagined [46:01 – End] The Power of Planning The seven dimensions of the Wellness Portfolio Why advanced personal planning matters as much as estate planning How purpose reduces pain, isolation, and mental decline Key Quotes: “Freedom for most people lasts about six, maybe 12 months, and that’s when they realize, wait a minute, this stuff’s fun, but it doesn’t fill up the rest of a lifetime.” - Michelle Fritsch “There’s a huge difference between being functionally limited for the decades ahead and being functionally ready to do everything that you really want to do.” - Michelle Fritsch Connect with Dr. Fritsch! Website: properlyourwellness.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michellefritsch Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Not every “no” sounds like a no. Some sound like “I need to talk to my advisor” or “I’m just tired.” In this eye-opening solo episode, Jerome Myers peels back the polite excuses founders often give and gets real about the resistance that’s quietly keeping you stuck. If you've ever hovered over the “Book the Intensive” button or convinced yourself now’s not the right time, this episode holds up a mirror and asks: Are you willing to stop circling the life you want and finally step into it? If you’re looking for clarity, this is your moment. [00:00 – 02:00] Sitting in the Gray Space Why founders pause at the edge of transformation Understanding indecision as quiet resistance What keeps people hovering without action [02:01 – 04:00] Common Objections That Mask Fear Avoiding action by blaming timing Doubting the process will work Deferring the decision to others [04:01 – 06:30] What’s Going On Avoiding stillness to escape deeper truths Relying on logic in emotional decisions Fear of choosing without external validation [06:31 – 09:00] The Identity Crisis After Success Losing clarity after stepping away from the role Feeling unknown beyond professional titles Navigating uncertainty after the exit [09:01 – End] Stepping Into Your Real Next What people discover when they say yes Building a life that feels aligned inside and out Starting the chapter that truly belongs to you Key Quotes: “You don’t need anyone else to give you permission to say yes to your next.” - Jerome Myers “Staying stuck is a decision, and so is saying yes.” - Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Your most meaningful moments begin after the exit. In this deeply personal solo episode, Jerome Myers reflects on the first half of 2025, not just what was accomplished, but what was transformed. Through unexpected moments of presence and alignment, he shares what life looks like when success is no longer the goal, but the foundation for something more. Whether you’re post-exit or preparing for one, this episode offers a rare, honest look at what comes next. [00:00 – 03:30] From Metrics to Meaning Reflecting on accomplishments beyond the surface Reframing the scoreboard of success Choosing alignment over endless achievement [03:31 – 06:30] The Silence After Success Confronting stillness after the summit Understanding the Founder’s Exit Paradox Beginning the inner work of reinvention [06:31 – 09:30] Moments That Redefine You Family milestones and legacy in action Letting joy lead through travel and play Finding aliveness through presence, not performance [09:31 – 12:30] Resonance Over Resume Living values through sacred rituals and reflection Recognizing impact beyond LinkedIn and titles Measuring life by connection, not credentials [12:31 – 16:00] Designing What Comes Next Asking the questions that shape your next chapter Rejecting default paths in favor of intention Embracing support and sacred reinvention Key Quotes: “You didn’t come this far just to coast. You came this far to elevate to new levels of impact, meaning, and legacy.” - Jerome Myers “The real reckoning only happens after the summit. When the exit is done, the money’s in the bank, and suddenly the calendar is quiet.” - Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Why do successful founders disappear when they're on the edge of true personal growth? In this powerful solo episode, Jerome Myers unpacks the fear that holds many high achievers back, not fear of failure, but fear of being seen. He explores how achievement can become emotional armor and what it really takes to step into purpose after the exit. If you’ve ever felt lost after success, this episode offers the clarity, courage, and next steps you need. Listen now and start your next chapter with intention. [00:00 – 03:00] You Are Not Broken, You Are in Transition The internal calling beyond success The NEO Assessment as a personal mirror Starting the journey into clarity [03:01 – 07:00] The Hidden Side of the Exit Paradox Why founders disappear after success The moment when identity begins to unravel Fear disguised as logic and timing [07:01 – 10:00] When Identity Becomes Armor Achievement as emotional protection The illusion of fulfillment through productivity Breaking through surface-level success [10:01 – 14:00] From Ghosting to Growth: David vs. Erica A tale of two founder responses Avoiding transformation vs. embracing it The real difference courage makes [14:01 – 17:00] Choosing to Be Seen Letting go of performance-based identity Stepping into alignment and purpose The power of conscious choice Key Quotes: “They’re winning at business but silently losing the war within.” – Jerome Myers “Being seen means letting go of the version of yourself you curated for survival and stepping into the version that's aligned for significance.”– Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What happens when the check clears, and you still feel empty? In this powerful episode, Jerome Myers talks with Rick Martinez, a former ER nurse, Army officer, and founder who scaled a 600-person healthcare company and exited successfully, only to face an identity crisis no one warned him about. From ER shifts to military deployment to crying in his car after a $500K payday, Rick shares what happens after the win and why fulfillment matters more than freedom. If you’ve ever asked, “Is this all there is?”, this episode is for you. [00:00 – 12:00] Still in Scrubs: The Entrepreneur Who Kept Showing Up Why Rick still picks up ER shifts decades into success His transition from staff nurse to contractor to employer How one conversation in a hospital skybridge launched a business [12:01 – 21:00] Building Something Bigger (Without Realizing It) From $8/hour raises to doubling his income overnight Creating an agency by accident and growing to 600 employees The systems that scaled without needing a business degree [21:01 – 30:00] Service, Sacrifice, and the Truth About Scaling Military activation changes everything The moment he realized he was the problem, not the engine A brutal but freeing insight: the founder or CEO is often the biggest bottleneck [30:01 – 38:00] The Check, the Crash, and the Cry The wire hits. Rick sits in his Porsche with tears in his eyes What no one tells you about the emotional cost of success The first signs that the real journey was just beginning [38:01 – 45:00] Pain, Purpose, and a Spiritual Awakening A crushing injury in a CrossFit competition shifts everything Rick hears what he’d been ignoring and gets baptized Writing, service, and rediscovering what truly matters [45:01 – End] What’s Next: From Exit to Expression Why “never a W2 again” wasn’t enough How Rick found meaning in ghostwriting and mentoring His ultimate advice for those chasing more than money Key Quotes: “The founder, the CEO, is always the biggest bottleneck.” – Rick Martinez “Find the freedom that's going to fulfill you. Be relentless about it, and when you get there, share it with the world.” – Rick Martinez Connect with Rick! Website: https://www.therickmartinez.com/optin1620132235803 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickmartinez Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What if trauma isn’t just in your head, but in your cells, your gut, your immune system? In this electrifying conversation, Jerome Myers is joined by Dr. Don Wood, the founder of the Inspired Performance Institute and creator of TIPP, a neuroscience-based program for trauma resolution. What begins as a deeply personal story about saving his daughter’s life turns into a profound revelation: most of what we treat with pills could be solved by healing the mind. If you’ve ever been told to just “manage” your anxiety, stress, or diagnosis, this episode is your wake-up call. [00:00 – 12:00] Trauma Is the Root, Not the Symptom “Medication is like giving tissue for a runny nose, what caused it?” Trauma often underlies anxiety, addiction, and even autoimmune disease Dr. Wood’s daughter's Crohn’s and lung disorder stemmed from childhood trauma, not just biology [12:01 – 22:00] The Brain Isn’t Broken, It’s Protecting You The subconscious runs 95% of your daily life and doesn’t understand time Emotional triggers (or “activations”) are unresolved calls for action “Anxiety is your mind trying to solve something from years ago, now.” [22:01 – 32:00] The Science of Reprocessing Memory Traumatic memories are stored in high-def; the solution is to reduce their intensity “We don’t erase memory, we reclassify it. So your brain sees it as past, not present.” Healing isn’t about forgetting; it’s about removing emotional dysregulation [32:01 – 42:00] It’s Not Just About Therapy, It’s About Resetting Traditional therapy relieves the trauma; TIPP reprocesses it safely and quickly "I don’t need the whole story, just the trailer.” The mind must feel safe before it can heal [42:01 – 49:00] Resilience is Built on Safety, Not Hardship “You don’t toughen a boxer by beating him before the fight.” A stable home builds resilience; trauma erodes it before life begins The system needs to feel safe to learn, grow, and repair [49:01 – End] Why He Didn't Stop After Saving His Daughter “We could’ve stopped. But we felt a calling.” Dr. Wood uses TIPP to help veterans, athletes, CEOs, and kids “Your mind and body are designed to heal. Trauma just gets in the way.” Key Quotes: “The mind and body are designed to heal. What’s interfering with it—in most cases, at least 80%—is unresolved trauma.” - Dr. Don Wood “You can’t sabotage yourself. Your brain’s a survival brain. It’s protecting you.” - Dr. Don Wood Connect with Dr. Wood! Website: http://www.inspiredperformanceinstitute.com/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/drdonwoodphd Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What happens after the founder exits? Too often, regret, confusion, and loss of identity. In this powerful session from the Exit Planning Institute, Jerome Myers delivers a wake-up call: most exit plans ignore the human element. While others focus on finances and operations, Jerome highlights the missing pillar: personal planning. Press play and rethink what it means to exit with excellence. [00:00 – 12:00] Exit is Inevitable, But Fulfillment is Not 100% of founders will exit: “Sell it, give it away, or close it.” Most advisors ignore personal planning, but it’s what leads to regret “The stool wobbles without the third leg. We’re building incomplete exits.” [12:01 – 25:00] The Founder’s Exit Paradox The paradox: rich and free, but lost “They decouple their identity from the business and enter a void.” Common regrets: loss of purpose, isolation, status drop, boredom Why does money only solve 2 of the 5 levels in Maslow’s hierarchy [25:01 – 38:00] Six Centers of Doubt: The Hidden Struggles Introducing the Exit Paradox Iceberg Self-image, Relationships, Work, Health, Prosperity, Significance “If you don’t know where you’re going, you won’t like where you end up.” 60% of founders’ core relationships disappear post-exit [38:01 – 48:15] From “What’s Next?” to N.E.X.T. Nourish, Evaluate, Xplore, Transcend: a framework for life after exit “Most are exiting from, not to. That’s why they regret it.” How Jerome helped his father find purpose again, becoming a mayor in his 60s [48:16 – End] Real Tools, Real People, Real Legacy The NEO Assessment: Six archetypes for post-exit personality “Ask your clients: What are you optimizing for, money or fulfillment?” Advisors: why you need to engage the personal side, or risk losing the AUM “The only way your life ever matters is if you are positively impacting other people's lives.” Key Quotes: “Money solves the first two levels of Maslow’s hierarchy. Everything after that - purpose, belonging, impact - needs something deeper.” – Jerome Myers “The biggest problem in exit planning is that most founders are exiting from instead of exiting to.” – Jerome Myers Ready for your next chapter? Start Your Assessment Now 👉 https://theexitparadox.com/assessment Leave a Review + Help Others Achieve a Great Legacy If you found this episode valuable, leave us a review and share it with someone who wants to expand their business growth. Your Next is more than a podcast—it’s a community that welcomes individuals from all backgrounds and ages, united by a shared passion for personal growth and achieving excellence. 🎧 Explore our previous episodes or learn more about our mission at https://exittoexcellence.com. Your next chapter starts here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mr Robinson
The fact that you’ll really understand the importance of putting the tenants first. As you mentioned regarding the owner has more responsibility with the knowledge and education. That was touching shoutout to everyone on this!! This inspired me