ZOE Science & Nutrition

Can science really help us live longer - and feel better while we age? In this episode, longevity expert Kayla Barnes-Lentz joins Jonathan and Dr Federica Amati to explore how daily behaviours, emerging science, and personalised data may shape our health span. Many people believe longevity requires extreme routines or expensive treatments, but new evidence suggests simple habits may have a powerful impact. This conversation asks one central question: how can we age well while still enjoying life? Together, Kayla, Jonathan and Federica explore what longevity science currently understands… and what it still doesn’t. Kayla shares her personal journey from chronic fatigue and brain fog to measurable improvements after changing her diet, sleep routine and lifestyle. The discussion covers nutrition, sleep, oral health, fasting, environmental toxins, supplements, wearable tracking, personalised lab testing, and why women may need different guidance based on physiology and life stage. For listeners wanting practical steps, this episode includes guidance on five foundational habits such as consistent sleep timing, reducing late-evening eating, flossing and dental check-ins, supporting your gut and oral microbiome, and increasing plant diversity in meals.  As science continues to uncover how and why we age, what small behaviour could you change today that your future self may thank you for? And if you could meaningfully extend your healthy years, how differently might you live now? Unwrap the truth about your food 👉 ⁠Get the ZOE app  🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Follow ZOE on Instagram. Timecodes 00:00 Intro 01:47 Biohacking, longevity - or something else? 03:50 The moment food changed Kayla’s health 11:02 Why women need personalised longevity science 14:03 Is longevity worth the lifestyle cost? 16:56 Why women were excluded from research 19:30 How alcohol affects sleep (and the shocking tracking data) 21:44 The history of extreme self-experimentation 23:58 What’s worth testing? 26:41 The wildfire moment that changed everything 28:52 Plasma filtering and toxin removal 31:22 Forever chemicals and microplastics 33:06 30 supplements a day - smart or risky? 36:19 Supplement stacking dangers 38:59 Why oral health matters for ageing 40:44 The sleep routine that rewires biology 42:51 Why women may need more sleep 44:56 Why exercise may be the closest thing to a longevity pill 46:39 The mistake women make with exercise timing 48:52 Bone density, pelvic floor and overlooked essentials 50:19 Kayla’s full diet - and why she eats 50 plants a week 52:41 Fermented foods, fibre and mindful meals 54:26 If you do one thing - start here 56:16 The goal: Longevity with quality of life 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide ZOE’s Holiday Hosting Guide Mentioned in today's episode Validating Benefits of Rapamycin for Reproductive Aging Treatment (VIBRANT), Columbia University (2025) Menstrual cycle phase does not influence muscle protein synthesis or whole-body myofibrillar proteolysis in response to resistance exercise, The Journal of Physiology (2024) Tracking Sleep, Temperature, Heart Rate, and Daily Symptoms Across the Menstrual Cycle with the Oura Ring in Healthy Women, International Journal of Women's Health (2022) Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.Episode transcripts are available here.

Today we’re talking about something we’re all guilty of: food waste. A forgotten yogurt at the back of the fridge, a stale hunk of bread, a bag of dry wilted greens.  They may seem insignificant on their own, but collectively, in every kitchen across the world they add up to a global environmental crisis. So, can we change the way we approach food and help curb this epidemic of waste? I’m joined by Carleigh Bodrug and Dr. Will Bulsiewicz to show us how a few simple changes can lead to a greener home, better health, and even a lower grocery bill. 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here

Plastic is everywhere. In our homes, on our streets, in our oceans. But recent research suggests it’s also inside us: in our blood, our organs, even our brain. So how concerned should we be? Today, Jonathan and Dr. Federica Amati are joined by longevity doctor and clinician Dr. Sabine Donnai to explore one critical question: what does plastic exposure mean for our long-term health?  Dr. Donnai breaks down how microplastics travel from packaging, food, and air into our bloodstream, and why their size means they may cross biological barriers once thought impenetrable, including the blood-brain barrier. The conversation also looks at the broader health implications of plastic-associated chemicals like BPA, their potential links to hormone disruption, inflammation, and cardiovascular risk, and why avoiding them may be especially important for those living in urban areas. For listeners keen to take practical steps, this episode offers simple and empowering guidance. Dr. Donnai shares specific tools that can reduce your exposure without creating unnecessary fear or overwhelm. You’ll also hear how diet plays a key role in supporting your body’s natural detox processes and why a colourful, fibre-rich diet may help us all manage the modern plastic burden. If plastics are entering your brain and bloodstream, what does it mean for your future health? And how much control do we really have in a world built on plastic? Unwrap the truth about your food 👉 ⁠Get the ZOE app  🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Follow ZOE on Instagram. Timecodes 00:00 Intro 03:20 Plastic production has doubled- why isn’t it slowing down? 05:55 What exactly are microplastics? 07:15 Why microplastics are in the air you breathe 09:10 The hidden plastic in your tumble dryer 11:10 How long do microplastics last? 12:20 Sushi trays, black plastic & hidden fire retardants 14:55 Are BPA-free plastics actually safe? 16:10 Plastic bottles aren’t inert - your water isn't safe 18:00 Hundreds of thousands of plastic particles - in every bottle 20:00 Tap water: bacteria-free but full of toxins 22:50 What does plastic do inside your body? 23:50 Plastic in your brain has doubled since 2016 25:40 The nose-to-brain highway: how plastic bypasses defenses 27:00 Who's going to volunteer for a clinical trial of plastic ingestion? 30:10 We’ve never found a patient without plastic in their blood 32:00 Microplastics found in artery plaque of stroke victims 34:30 Are plastics worse than saturated fat for heart attacks? 35:45 Plastics and hormone disruption: the hidden fertility threat 36:00 The BPA bomb in your shopping receipt 39:00 Which foods contain the most plastic? 41:00 The vegetables that actually help detox plastic 42:30 How to reduce your plastic exposure without going insane 43:30 The #1 habit to reduce plastic exposure at home 45:30 Cookware swaps that protect your health 47:15 Can you detox plastics with diet? Yes. 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide ZOE’s Holiday Hosting Guide Mentioned in today's episode Bioaccumulation of microplastics in decedent human brains, Nature Medicine (2025) Bisphenol-A and Female Fertility: An Update of Existing Epidemiological Studies,  Journal of Clinical Medicine (2022) Fenugreek and Okra Polymers as Treatment Agents for the Removal of Microplastics from Water Sources, ACS Omega (2025) Rapid single-particle chemical imaging of nanoplastics by SRS microscopy, PNAS (2023) Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here. Episode transcripts are available here.

Today we’re talking about gynaecological health. Conditions like endometriosis and polycystic ovarian syndrome are more common than might think. Yet they’re often misunderstood, frequently undiagnosed, and are all too easily dismissed. That’s why it’s essential for us to build a clear understanding of these conditions: How lifestyle factors can influence them, and when it’s time to seek expert care. America’s gynecologist, Dr Jen Ashton, joins me to break down these complex conditions. Helping you to feel more informed and empowered in your own body. 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here

Are fermented foods the missing link in our health, or just the latest wellness trend?  In this episode, Professor Tim Spector, a world-leading scientist in gut health and co-founder of ZOE, challenges what we think we know about yogurt, cheese, kombucha, and more. Tim uncovers why milk and cheese aren’t the same in your body - and the surprising science showing cheese might not be the heart villain it was once made out to be. He also shares emerging evidence that fermented foods could influence inflammation, immunity, metabolism, and even mood, often in a matter of weeks. From a groundbreaking Stanford study to insights from ZOE’s research on 9,000 people, this episode reveals why fermented foods are more powerful, and more misunderstood, than most of us realise. Tim breaks down the easiest ways to actually eat more fermented foods without overhauling your life. By the end, you’ll be questioning what’s in your fridge - and wondering if one tiny daily habit could do far more than you’d ever expect. Unwrap the truth about your food 👉 ⁠Get the ZOE app  🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Follow ZOE on Instagram. Timecodes 00:00 Introduction 04:00 The critical difference between healthy fermentation and rotting 09:55 What 'double fermented' food means (and why it's better for you) 11:23 The cheese paradox: why is it so much healthier than milk? 14:12 Why you shouldn't be afraid of 'chemicals' in your food 17:02 Common fermented foods you didn't even know you were eating 18:47 The surprising reason microbes in beer and bread are killed 20:10 Surprising new science: the health benefits of dead microbes 22:07 Why did English-speaking countries stop eating fermented foods? 24:05 What is the real difference between pickling and fermenting? 26:55 The groundbreaking Stanford study that proved the power of fermented foods 30:00 ZOE's 9,000-person study: the results in just two weeks 30:55 The impact of 3 ferments a day on mood, energy, and bloating 34:50 The gut-brain axis: how microbes calm 'neuroinflammation' 37:30 Eating fermented food is like a 'vaccine' for your immune system 39:48 Why sourdough bread is easier to digest than regular bread 40:11 Are fermented foods better than probiotic pills? 44:47 The biggest myth about probiotics: they don't colonize your gut 46:39 Tim's breakfast hack to get two ferments in at once 48:15 The one simple pantry swap for all your stock cubes 49:05 A simple trick to train yourself to like kimchi 51:45 The simplest home ferment: garlic and honey 53:55 How to make your own sauerkraut with just two ingredients 55:08 What is the 'jellyfish' that makes kombucha? 01:00:06 Summary: the top 5 takeaways from this episode 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Mentioned in today's episode Gut-microbiota-targeted diets modulate human immune status, Cell (2021) Fermented Food Consumption Is Associated With Improvements in Bloating, Hunger, Energy and Mood in the General Population, CDN (2025) Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here. Episode transcripts are available here.

Today we’re diving into our immune health. You can think of your immune system as your body’s personal physician. Diligently working around the clock to monitor, detect, and repair anything that might disrupt your health. However, because it’s work is so seamless and silent, we often take it for granted.  So, how can we better support our internal MD? Immunologist Jenna Macciochi joins me to explore how simple, everyday actions - from what we eat to how we breathe - can profoundly enhance our immune health. 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here

Is flavour just a sensory experience? Or the secret key to eating for health? In this episode, Spencer Hyman, flavour expert and co-founder of Cocoa Runners, joins Professor Tim Spector, world-leading scientist in nutrition and gut health, to uncover how the food industry manipulates taste to make us overeat, and how rediscovering real flavour could transform our wellbeing. Spencer reveals the fascinating science of flavour and why we “taste” with our noses, how chocolate became the world’s first hyper-palatable food, and why modern diets are full of fake flavours designed to make us eat faster. Tim explains how “big food” exploits the brain’s reward system to override fullness signals, creating products that keep us hooked - and what we can do to fight back. For listeners curious about how to rebuild a healthy relationship with food, this episode includes a practical guide to retraining your taste buds. Spencer and Tim share tips on how to eat more slowly, savour each bite, and use flavour as a natural marker of nutrient-rich, satisfying foods. Could learning the language of flavour be the most powerful way to eat better - without restriction? Try ZOE’s NEW app and gut health test: ZOE.com Unwrap the truth about your food 👉 ⁠Get the ZOE app  🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Download Spencer's Flavour Wave guide FREE: https://cocoarunners.com/cocoa-runners-on-zoe/ Follow ZOE on Instagram. Timecodes 00:00 Introduction 01:10 The surprising truth about how taste really works 02:45 Why flavour matters more than nutrition labels 05:12 The ‘bliss point’: how junk food hooks your brain 07:40 How big food manipulates your taste buds 10:05 Why eating too fast damages your health 12:32 The 20-minute rule your brain uses to feel full 14:25 Why you should chew more (and talk while eating) 16:58 The simple trick to eat less and enjoy more 19:05 What chocolate reveals about human evolution 21:15 Why most processed foods are designed to deceive 23:48 How to spot hyper-palatable foods instantly 26:10 Why we’ve lost our ability to taste real food 28:55 What ‘bitterness’ really means for your health 31:40 The forgotten skill of flavour literacy 34:25 How to retrain your taste buds in one week 36:45 Why flavour is the one thing big food can’t fake 39:20 How mindful eating can rewire your brain 41:05 The shocking stats on mindless eating 43:30 What the data says about processed food risk 45:25 Why flavour could be your best health tracker 47:40 Can technology teach you to eat better? 49:30 Why enjoying food is essential for good health 51:00 The big takeaway: flavour is your superpower 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Mentioned in today's episode Savouring strikes back: healthiness, satiety, mindfulness, community, planet  How Important Is Eating Rate in the Physiological Response to Food Intake, Control of Body Weight, and Glycemia?, Nutrients (2020)  Hyperpalatability and the Generation of Obesity: Roles of Environment, Stress Exposure and Individual Difference, Current Obesity Reports (2018) Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.Episode transcripts are available here.

Try ZOE’s NEW app and gut health test: ZOE.com Winter is almost here! Temperatures are dropping, clouds are descending, and the clocks have changed.  Many of you might be worrying that the Winter Blues are on their way, but perhaps they don’t need to be? Perhaps we can work with our natural, biological rhythms to fend off this blue phase. Today, we’re joined by Prof. Debra Skene, Section Lead of Chronobiology at the University of Surrey and a global authority on circadian rhythms. With over 190 research publications, she’s spent 25 years studying how light and timing affect sleep, mood, and metabolic health. After listening to this episode, you’ll be armed with solid advice that will help you weather winter with a smile, maintaining good health and good mood until the warmth returns. Timecodes: 00:15 The surprising link between your body clock and major diseases 01:25 Quick-fire round: Body clocks, weight gain, and meal timing 03:25 You have a 'master clock' ticking in your brain 10:05 What is 'gut lag'? 11:40 Why light is the most reliable signal for your body (it's not weather) 14:45 Light's 'non-visual' effects: How light affects your mood and performance 16:30 What studies on blind people reveal about our internal clocks 18:50 The shocking health risks of night shift work 21:05 Why you are 'definitely eating at the wrong time' 22:30 The same meal at midnight gives you higher blood fats 25:20 Why living in a cave for a month is 'pretty healthy' 26:20 Are you a 'lark' or an 'owl'? The biology of chronotypes 29:10 What is 'social jet lag' (and why is it linked to weight gain)? 33:05 How winter light changes your body clock 38:30 The direct link between light and 'winter depression' 39:30 Do light boxes actually work for winter depression? 40:40 The discovery of melanopsin: The specific color of light that controls your clock 43:45 Does blue light from your phone really matter for sleep? 45:05 Why light intensity matters more than blue light 48:15 The cheapest and most effective way to get morning light (even in winter) 50:00 Food sets your 'peripheral clocks', but not your master clock 52:20 Why mealtime consistency is the most important rule 53:30 Is daylight saving time bad for our health? 55:35 Summary: Key takeaways for sleep, mood, and eating 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here. Episode transcripts are available⁠ here⁠.

Get 6+ FREE breakfast recipes from nutrition experts: https://zoe.com/breakfastguide Why do so many of us eat a "healthy" breakfast like cereal or muesli, only to feel hungry, tired, and foggy by 11 AM? And why is it so hard to break this routine, even when we know it’s not working? In this episode, Jonathan Wolf speaks to Professor Ben Gardner, a leading expert in habit psychology, and Professor Tim Spector, a world-leading scientist in nutrition and gut health.  They explore the science behind why our breakfast routines are broken, how they set us up for a daily blood sugar rollercoaster, and what to do to fix things.  Tim breaks down the latest science on common breakfast foods, explaining why most cereals, muesli, fruit juices, and "high-protein" options are failing us, leading to energy dips and mood changes. Ben explains the psychology of why we're stuck. He reveals why bad habits run on autopilot, why our environment is more powerful than our willpower, and busts the persistent "21-day" myth, explaining how long it really takes to form a new habit. Timecodes: 00:00 Introduction 01:25 Does building a new habit take 21 days? 02:05 Is breakfast the most important meal of the day? 04:05 The 'healthy' breakfast that causes an 11 AM energy dip 05:15 How your breakfast creates a blood sugar rollercoaster 07:15 Can today's breakfast affect tomorrow's hunger? 08:05 The 'healthy' cereal trap: "Only if you're a shareholder of Kellogg's" 10:10 What is a 'habit' in psychology? (It's not what you think) 11:15 The 'autopilot' breakfast: Making food without realizing 13:50 The stale popcorn experiment: Why you eat food you don't even like 16:30 The secret to change: Identify your environmental triggers 18:30 The 'fresh start effect': Why Monday is a powerful day to change 20:40 The "I've already failed today" mindset (and why it's wrong) 22:30 What are 'keystone habits'? 25:45 The 3 ways to break a bad habit (it's not just willpower) 28:00 How to use breakfast as your 'first win' of the day 29:40 Tim Spector's ideal breakfast to avoid a sugar crash 32:30 The 'high protein' cereal lie: "Most of them are rubbish" 33:30 Is Marmite actually healthy? 34:55 Tim's 3 simple principles for a healthy breakfast 38:20 The 21-day myth busted: How long it really takes to form a habit 40:50 What is 'habit stacking'? 41:55 Does missing one day ruin your new habit? 42:35 How to swap your cereal habit (Ben's practical plan) 45:00 How long until a new habit feels 'automatic'? 46:00 A 3-step practical guide to change your breakfast habit 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide

Get your free 5-step plan for hearing loss diagnosis and treatment: click here Hearing loss affects 1 in 5 people globally, increases the risk of developing dementia, and has no cure.  An astonishing half a billion people have hearing loss, which impacts their ability to communicate and connect with others. Hearing loss cases are increasing fast, especially among younger people.  For many, hearing aids and cochlear implants can be life-changing, but they can’t help everyone. But there is hope: Scientists around the world have been working tirelessly to develop NEW treatments for hearing loss.  In this episode, Jonathan speaks to Dr. Marcelo Rivolta, a professor of sensory stem cell biology at Sheffield University.  He’s on the cusp of a major breakthrough that could mean hearing loss becomes a thing of the past.  What you’ll learn: Why hearing loss is becoming more common The shocking link between hearing loss and a 500% increased risk of dementia How modern headphones and loud concerts cause permanent, irreversible damage Why hearing loss can be more isolating than blindness The simple ways you can protect your hearing today How current technologies like hearing aids and cochlear implants work About the groundbreaking new science that could cure deafness using stem cells About Marcelo Rivolta Marcelo Rivolta is a Professor of Sensory Stem Cell Biology at the University of Sheffield. For over two decades, his research has focused on the use of human stem cells for the understanding and treatment of hearing loss. His lab was the first to demonstrate that it was possible to create both auditory hair cells and neurons from stem cells, and his pioneering work is now moving towards clinical trials in humans. Timecodes: 00:00 Introduction  00:26 Does hearing loss only affect older adults? 03:37 Is permanent hearing loss reversible? 06:03 At what volume do headphones start to cause hearing loss? 08:26 Why hearing loss is more isolating than blindness 09:41 The shocking link between hearing loss and dementia 12:00 Can hearing aids reduce your dementia risk? 13:13 How do we hear? A simple explanation 15:15 Why is your microphone just like your ear? 18:07 What goes wrong in your ear to cause hearing loss? 19:20 The cells in your body you’re born with that have to last a lifetime 20:51 Why does loud noise cause irreversible damage? 23:15 Do hearing aids solve hearing loss for everybody? 24:08 The difference between a hearing aid and a cochlear implant 26:20 Is the hearing from a cochlear implant natural? 32:25 Can we find a cure for hearing loss? 34:15 Using stem cells to create new hearing cells 37:32 Can we reverse deafness? Groundbreaking study in animals 38:45 When will a cure for hearing loss be available? 42:25 What is auditory neuropathy? 45:06 What is tinnitus and could this research cure it? 46:46 Top tips to protect your hearing 50:03 Jonathan's summary Information about the Rincell-1 clinical trial, such as patient eligibility and other related aspects, is available at https://www.rinri-therapeutics.com/our-clinical-research/#rincell For further details, please contact enquiries@rinri-therapeutics.com 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Episode transcripts are available here: https://zoe.com/learn/category/podcast

🥑 Make smarter food choices. Become a member at http://zoe.com  Have you ever wondered why you can lose weight on a diet, only for it to come back with a vengeance? If you’ve blamed yourself for a lack of willpower, our guest today argues you’ve been misled. The old mantra of “eat less, move more” is failing us, and the key to understanding why lies deep within our biology. In this episode, Jonathan is joined by Dr. Andrew Jenkinson, a bariatric surgeon and author with decades of experience in the science of metabolism. Dr. Jenkinson dismantles the calorie-counting myth and explains the powerful biological system that controls our weight: the "set point." He reveals how our modern diet and lifestyle have broken this system, but also provides a clear, science-backed path to fixing it. Dr. Andrew Jenkinson is a consultant bariatric surgeon and the author of Why We Eat (Too Much): The New Science of Appetite. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why the idea that weight loss is simply about willpower is a damaging myth. The science of the "weight set point" and how your brain fights to keep you at a certain weight. How your metabolism acts like a "dimmer switch," slowing down to prevent weight loss when you diet. The crucial role of hormones like leptin and insulin, and why our modern diet causes "leptin resistance" — the reason your brain can’t tell it’s full. How yo-yo dieting can actually raise your set point, making you heavier in the long run. A practical, step-by-step plan to lower your set point by changing what you eat, not just how much. The truth about new weight-loss drugs like Ozempic and their long-term effects. How managing stress and improving sleep can be as important as your diet for sustainable weight management 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30: https://zoe.com/daily30?utm_medium=zoe_podcast&utm_source=podcast_platform&utm_campaign=d30 *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Follow ZOE on Instagram |  https://www.instagram.com/zoe/ Timecodes 00:00 Introduction 00:20 Is gaining weight as we age inevitable? 01:38 Why ‘eat less, move more’ is a myth 03:53 Is your weight predetermined by your genes? 06:36 How your mother's experience in the womb can alter your dna 10:35 Why most diets are doomed to fail in the long term 12:16 Your brain has a weight 'set point' it tries to defend 15:27 The 'weight anchor': your body's powerful defence against weight loss 17:22 The reason you often end up heavier after a diet 19:00 A shocking study: yo-yo dieting made mice fatter than a junk food diet 21:35 The 'joker in the pack' controlling 70% of your energy burn 23:12 Your body has a hidden metabolic 'dimmer switch' 27:53 The mystery of the missing calories 32:35 Why dieting can actually raise your weight set point 34:31 The master hormone that tells your brain when you're full 36:08 The hidden reason your brain can't tell you're full 37:35 Why feeling hungry and lazy are symptoms, not causes, of obesity 39:00 The 'broken gas tank meter' analogy for weight gain 41:26 Step 1 for resetting your weight: the 30-day challenge 42:07 Why you need to stop snacking between meals 43:50 What is mindful eating and why does it matter? 46:22 Can time-restricted eating lower your set point? 48:37 The truth about new weight loss drugs like ozempic 50:28 The surprising impact of stress and sleep on your weight 51:42 The single most important thing to understand about weight loss 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide

Today, we’re talking about plants. For years, our diets have been guided by a simple three word slogan: ‘five a day’. While it’s well established that eating fruit and vegetables is good for us, some experts believe the ‘five a day’ message puts too much emphasis on quantity, and not enough on variety. So, is time to adjust our guiding plant principle? I’m joined by Professor Tim Spector and chef Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, who advocate for a new goal: eating 30 different plants each week. Together, we’ll explore why diversity is key for your microbiome and share some delicious ways to bring more plants onto your plate. 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here

Is your smartwatch just a fun gadget, or a serious medical device?  In this episode, Jonathan Wolf is joined by Dr. Malcolm Findlay, a leading consultant cardiologist, to explore the powerful health data available on your wrist. They decode the most misunderstood metric, Heart Rate Variability (HRV), and reveal how your wearable can provide clinical-grade insights into your heart's health. Dr. Findlay explains the counter-intuitive science behind HRV — why more ‘wobble’ in your heartbeat is a sign of good health — and breaks down the two opposing nervous systems that control it. He shares the latest on how these devices can accurately detect serious conditions like atrial fibrillation and why he, as a cardiologist, trusts the ECG function on a consumer smartwatch to make diagnoses. For listeners who track their own data, this episode is a practical guide to what your numbers actually mean. Dr. Findlay explains how to interpret your personal HRV trends, what constitutes a significant change, and when you should use the ECG feature. He also debunks common myths about heart rate zones, revealing the level of exercise intensity that truly benefits your long-term health. The episode concludes with an empowering look at how this technology is shifting control into our own hands. Can a simple alert from your watch really help prevent a catastrophic event like a stroke? Discover which metrics matter most and how to use them to guide your wellness journey. 🥑 Make smarter food choices. Become a member at zoe.com Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system. Timecodes  00:06 Quick-fire questions on heart health 01:45 What is heart rate variability (HRV)? 03:05 Is a steady heart rate a healthy sign? 05:15 Atrial fibrillation makes HRV an invalid measure 07:30 What controls our heart rate? 10:00 Your heart is much more than a pump 11:10 Your thoughts can directly affect your heart 13:45 What lifestyle factors influence your HRV score? 15:15 How does stress impact your HRV? 17:15 Your watch's ECG is a clinical-grade tool 20:20 Wearables can help diagnose serious heart conditions 23:45 Are expensive wearables more accurate? 26:20 Does diet impact your HRV score? 29:15 How to track your HRV score correctly 30:00 Don't panic about small HRV fluctuations 32:30 When to use your watch's ECG function 34:10 The truth about heart rate training zones 36:50 The minimum exercise for a healthy heart 37:40 Does sleep consistency matter? 39:50 What is VO2 max and does it matter? 41:10 Stop comparing your health data to others 41:50 Key takeaways from the episode 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Studies referenced for today's episode Heart rate variability: standards of measurement, physiological interpretation and clinical use, 1996, European Heart Journal Diagnostic Accuracy of a Smartwatch App for the Detection of Atrial Fibrillation, 2019, The New England Journal of Medicine The Effects of Alcohol on Heart Rate Variability and Heart Rate, 2017, The American Journal of Cardiology The relationship between mental stress and heart rate variability, 2007, Journal of Psychosomatic Research Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here. Episode transcripts are available here.

If you’re a regular listener of this podcast, you’ll know that our cholesterol level is closely linked to heart health. With that in mind, it’s easy to be drawn to foods labelled as ‘low fat’, ‘reduced fat’ or ‘fat free’ - all of which promise to keep our cholesterol low and heart strong.  However, is it really that simple? I’m joined by Professor Sarah Berry to break down the difference between good and bad cholesterol, bust some myths about low-fat foods, and explain how we can make smarter food choices that support our heart. 🥑 Make smarter food choices. Become a member a zoe.com - 10% off with code PODCAST 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here

We’ve all been there: tossing and turning, checking the clock, and stressing about not getting enough sleep. But what if the secret to a good night’s rest isn’t in a pill or a product, but in changing your mindset and daily habits? In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Sophie Bostock, a leading sleep scientist and founder of The Sleep Scientist. Sophie has dedicated her career to helping people understand the science of sleep and how to build lasting, healthy habits. We dive into what really happens when we don’t get enough sleep, from the psychological effects on our willpower and relationships to the physiological impacts on our long-term health. Sophie debunks common myths about blue light, alcohol, and cheese, and explains the critical difference between occasional poor sleep and true insomnia. And introduces us to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBT-I), explaining why it’s a more effective long-term solution than sleeping pills. Finally, we walk through the simple, science-backed habits you can adopt right now to improve your sleep, starting the moment you wake up. Unlock the science of sleep 👉  ⁠Get the ZOE app  🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Follow ZOE on Instagram. Timecodes: 00:00 How to fix your sleep: what works and what doesn't 01:05 How a lack of sleep affects your willpower and mood 02:02 The evolutionary link between sleep deprivation and a threat response 04:26 How a lack of sleep can impact cognitive function 05:05 Is there a real scientific link between poor sleep and disease? 07:21 The surprising link between sleep and mental health 08:23 Why you can't try to have a good night's sleep 09:33 How to apply the "perfect is the enemy of good" rule to sleep 10:43 The number one reason for insomnia 11:12 The split between those who don't sleep enough and those who worry about it too much 12:12 Why are so many people dissatisfied with their sleep today? 13:00 Why technology is the biggest threat to our sleep 15:46 Why phones are making sleep harder 17:45 The science behind forest bathing 18:55 Can cognitive behavioral therapy help you sleep? 21:10 The surprising clinical definition of insomnia 21:40 Does alcohol help you fall asleep? 26:15 Are sleeping pills a good solution? 29:35 Can exercise help you get better sleep? 32:40 Can eating turkey help you get to sleep? 36:55 What about supplements like melatonin and magnesium? 41:38 What is good sleep hygiene? 44:18 The number one rule for your smartphone and your bedroom 45:32 How can wearables that track sleep help you? 47:34 The technique that will help you fall back to sleep 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide

Today, we’re unwrapping the truth about chocolate. For many of us, chocolate is a guilty pleasure. But what if I told you that you didn’t need to feel guilty? Because it turns out that not all chocolate is created equal. And by changing the type of chocolate you eat, you can support your health instead of harming it. In this episode, I’m joined by chocolate expert Spencer Hyman and Sarah Berry to show you how to enjoy chocolate with a clear conscience. 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here

There's an unseen world inside you, teeming with trillions of tiny inhabitants. Just like any ecosystem, some bugs inside your gut microbiome are beneficial, while others wreak havoc, quietly disrupting your health. What if these disruptive "invasive species" are silently driving the rise of cardiometabolic diseases, the leading cause of illness and death in Western countries? This episode reveals groundbreaking new ZOE research, soon to be published in Nature, that maps this hidden world. We’re joined by Professor Nicola Segata, the study’s co-author and a pioneer of this new technology, alongside ZOE's scientific Co-Founder, Professor Tim Spector, one of the world's top 100 most-cited scientists. Together, they reveal the top-ranked gut bacteria – both good and bad – that influence your health. Discover three powerful "good bugs" and how feeding them can suppress the "bad," transforming your gut ecosystem and paving the way for better health and potential therapeutic breakthroughs. Learn actionable tips for boosting your beneficial bacteria, starving the detrimental ones, and why gut testing is forever changed. 🥑 Make smarter food choices. Become a member at zoe.com - 10% off with code PODCAST 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Follow ZOE on Instagram. Timecodes 00:00 Introduction  01:05 The most common misconception about gut health 04:04 Your gut bacteria are like mini pharmacists 08:12 Why your gut microbes are as unique as your DNA 14:23 How ZOE is revolutionising health with a new research model 19:39 Groundbreaking research that featured in Nature  22:21 The new, simpler way to measure your gut health 24:25 Meet newly discovered good bugs 28:06 The microbe that thrives when you eat nuts and seeds 32:40 Why only eating kale won't make you healthy 34:25 The 'ancient' gut bug discovered in mummies (and one of our scientists!) 36:37 The future of probiotics 39:17 The shocking truth about store-bought probiotics 42:17 What makes a 'bad' bug bad for your health? 43:45 Could your gut microbes be making you crave junk food? 46:29 The diet your bad bugs love the most 49:10 The future of personalised nutrition for your gut 52:22 How to 'pivot your ' to feed your good bugs 53:55 Is it okay to eat occasionally? 55:53 Tim Spector's simple 'fridge raid ferment'  📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Mentioned in today's episode Gut microbiome species indicative of cardiometabolic health are modulated by diet in large and interventional cohorts of over 34,000 individuals, forthcoming in Nature, (2025) Gut microbiome species indicative of cardiometabolic health are modulated by diet in large and interventional cohorts of over 34,000 individuals, Published in Nature Microbiology (2025) [3] Research progress of gut microbiota and obesity caused by high-fat diet, Published in Fronteirs in Cellular and Infection Microbiology (2023) Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.Episode transcripts are available here.

Research continues to confirm how important the gut is for overall health. From energy to immunity and even mood, it all seems to start with the gut. It’s no surprise then that the hunt for the next gut boosting hack has exploded in recent years. So, are probiotics really the answer? Or is the fix already sitting on our supermarket shelf? In this episode, Dr. Karan Rajan helps us separate science from marketing hype and shares the simple, evidence-backed changes that can make a big difference to your gut. 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here

Many supplements claim to “boost” your immune system. Now, we all want to avoid getting sick during the winter months, but do any of these products really work? And is trying to “boost” your immune system even a good idea? Jonathan speaks with Professor Daniel M. Davis, MBE — a leading expert on immunology and Head of Life Sciences at Imperial College London. Daniel has published 145 scientific papers, authored four best-selling science books, and spent 25 years researching how our immune system works. He even helped discover the immune synapse, a breakthrough that changed our understanding of immunity. Daniel explains how your immune system really works, why it’s connected to mental health, and how it can even detect cancer cells. He also clears up common myths and shares what genuinely helps keep your immune system strong through the winter months — and what won’t make a difference. By the end of the episode, you’ll know the practical, science-backed steps you can take to reduce your risk of colds and flu this winter without wasting money on products that don’t deliver. Unwrap the truth about your food 👉 ⁠Get the ZOE app  🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily 30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system Follow ZOE on Instagram. Timecodes 00:00 Your body’s surprising, built-in cancer defense 02:07 What is the immune system? 03:55 Why ‘boosting’ your immune system can be dangerous 05:28 Are allergies a sign of an overactive immune system? 07:53 The 'hygiene hypothesis': Does being too clean make us sick? 11:05 The unintended global experiment of the COVID pandemic 12:40 How your immune system is constantly fighting cancer 14:20 The revolutionary new therapies that unleash your immune system on cancer 16:05 Is your immune system killing cancerous cells right now? 17:12 Your immune system is the most unique thing about you 19:25 Why you shouldn't blame yourself for getting sick 21:18 The myth of vitamin C and the Nobel prize winner who started it 23:55 The truth about vitamin C and colds 25:06 Does being cold actually give you a cold? 26:15 The powerful link between your immune health and mental health 28:06 Cytokines: The secret messengers you’re going to hear more about 29:00 Could inflammation predict teenage depression? 33:40 What is inflammation, really? 40:33 The double-edged sword of personal health data 42:06 Are there any immune supplements that actually work? 43:35 The one thing that directly harms your immune health 45:05 Why 'fight or flight' is bad for your immune system 47:08 How much exercise is best for your immune system? 48:16 The two most practical pieces of advice for a healthy immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here.Episode transcripts are available here.

From Instagram reels to viral tweets, seed oils have become one of the latest nutrition villains. And the fear’s getting real. People are emptying their cupboards, terrified these everyday oils are silently wreaking havoc on their health. So is this panic justified? Or does the science require further scrutiny?  Well, ‘scrutiny’ is Professor Sarah Berry’s middle name! She’s going to cut through the confusion, dig into the data, and tell you whether it’s time to rethink your next stir-fry. 🌱 Try our new plant based wholefood supplement - Daily30+ *Naturally high in copper which contributes to normal energy yielding metabolism and the normal function of the immune system 📚Books by our ZOE Scientists The Food For Life Cookbook Every Body Should Know This by Dr Federica Amati Food For Life by Prof. Tim Spector Ferment by Prof. Tim Spector Free resources from ZOE Live Healthier: Top 10 Tips From ZOE Science & Nutrition Gut Guide - For a Healthier Microbiome in Weeks  Better Breakfast Guide Have feedback or a topic you'd like us to cover? Let us know here Listen to the full episode here