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Author: Michael Kramer, Matt Choi, Chris Liu

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Zooming Out is a podcast started by 3 college friends (Michael Kramer, Matt Choi, and Chris Liu), where they invite their friends on to zoom out from SIP, and share stories and lessons about their Christian lives from college and post-grad days.
22 Episodes
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For Episode 22, Matt, Michael, and Chris, are joined by Noah Oldham - Lead Pastor at August Gate Church in St. Louis and Senior Director for Church Planter Deployment for the Send Network. Noah shares his journey as a church planter, from how it all began as a college student through different valleys and trials and reflects on the joy and purpose he's found in giving everything for God and being part of the church planting movement.
Episode 21: Plants

Episode 21: Plants

2020-10-3054:56

Michael, Matt and Chris talk about what church planting is all about, the grand vision of it, but also the nitty-gritty details. Matt shares about his experience as part of the Chicago church, and the three of them discuss their own excitements and fears about planting new churches.
To celebrate hitting Episode 20, Michael, Matt and Chris are joined by Daniel and Hallie Shan (c/o 2016). The Shans share about growing into the "older couple" role and leading younger staff. They also dive into their initial impressions of each other as Cal students as well as how they progressed towards marriage. Hallie and Daniel talk about their experience relating to the opposite gender and having common vision for their lives. For singles, the Shans offer up their words of wisdom on navigating the area of dating and what steps they took to honor God in their relationship.
Matt, Michael and Chris are joined by Lucas Lam (c/o 2019), and they talk about Lucas's spiritual journey all the way from his golf-playing days back in freshman year. Also, Lucas recounts his tough 1st year out of college when he was able to experience the church coming together and being the body of Christ to support him.
Matt, Michael and Chris are joined by their older brother Josh Kim (c/o 2014) and discuss the fun and the challenges of living in a big ministry house with a bunch of bros. They learn about what "uncle ministry" is all about, and Josh gives some major shoutouts, both positive (c/o 2020) and negative (c/o 2017).
Michael and Chris are joined by their friends Jermaine and Kevin (c/o 2018) from Irvine and how they grew in their relationships despite being a small class, and what they've seen change and grow since the early days of the Irvine church.
Chris, Matt, and Michael are joined by James Han (c/o 2014) and together they talk about their experiences during welcome week and chime in on why we do all that we do during welcome week (9:32). James also shares about his upcoming transition to being a parent (29:10) and about his experience starting up a new ministry on the East Coast (38:30).
Chris, Matt, and Michael are joined by their friends Eric Kim and Gavin Lee (c/o 2018) and hear how they starting coming to church, what their relationship has been like in serving together over the years, and what they are thankful for and learning during SIP.
Episode 14: CPI Year

Episode 14: CPI Year

2020-08-0342:39

Matt, Michael, and Chris are joined by their friend Eric Ung (c/o 2018) who shares his journey from being an atheist to being a CPI, and he and Matt share stories from their year as Church Plant Interns and time together on a Scouting Team in Canada and Indiana.
Episode 13: Friendship

Episode 13: Friendship

2020-07-2301:00:09

Peter Nguyen (c/o 2018) joins Michael, Matt, and Chris, and shares his story of how he came to seek out Christianity despite different obstacles. He and Matt also reflect on their friendship going back to high school and all reflect on how their peer relationships have guided their own walks with God over the years.
Episode 12: 180 Turn

Episode 12: 180 Turn

2020-07-1853:57

Michael and Chris are joined by their friend Adam Kor, who shares about his journey beginning at CMU Klesis to now serving in IGSM at Berkeley, and gives us a picture of what it's like as an international student during these times.
Michael, Matt, and Chris are joined by their peer Stefan Lam, who gives an update on what's been happening with A2CN (4:15), what drew him to church in college (12:20), what he was like during college (17:05), how he changed and transformed (19:59), and what it's like now as he lives with the current Berkeley Koin seniors (24:13).
Michael, Matt, and Chris are joined by Eric Han and Andy Sun (c/o 2017) from the Pittsburgh Church, where they hear what it’s been like on the East Coast (7:03) and different stories and experiences of taking on new initiatives (24:00).
Episode 9: Being Real

Episode 9: Being Real

2020-06-2144:53

Michael and Matt are joined by Ivan Yung (c/o 2015) and they get to hear from Ivan about Cambodia Virtual Summer Missions, what it was like for him as a senior reaching out to the c/o 2018 (8:35) and seeing younger ones grow up, and what he struggled with when he was in college and what helped him grow (21:51).
Michael, Matt, and Chris, are joined by their friend Jonathan Tu, who shares about his journey from being a Taoist to becoming a Christian (5:45), and together, they share how they have been growing in their new identities (20:15).
Episode 7: Minnesota

Episode 7: Minnesota

2020-06-0449:20

Michael, Matt, and Chris, are joined by their friend Keith Min from the Minnesota church, and together they share their reactions and thoughts to the current situation in America.
Michael, Matt, and Chris, are joined by their friends David Lee and David Choi, who are serving at Gracepoint Irvine and share about their experience serving on a church plant, what it's like as an introvert, and what they wish their college selves did more of.
Michael, Matt, and Chris are joined by Duncan Inganji, and together, they share about their experience of their first year after college was like and what they wish their college selves had known, and offer encouragement to the class of 2020.
Episode 4: Vision

Episode 4: Vision

2020-05-1552:34

Michael, Matt, and Chris, are joined by their friend Brian, who shares about his experience as a volunteer at Vision 2019 (10:30), and together, they talk about what vision was like and what to look forward to at Vision 2020 (32:12).
Episode 3: High School

Episode 3: High School

2020-05-0853:32

Michael, Matt, and Chris are joined by their friends, Justin and Daniel, who currently serve in Element High School Ministry. They get to hear from Justin and Daniel on what their experience is like and what they would tell their high school selves.
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