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A podcast about developer tools and the people who make them. Join us as we embark on a journey to explore modern developer tooling and interview the people who make it possible.
We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
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This week we talk to Dan Stepanov, a maintainer of NativeWind, the author of NativeWind UI. NativeWind is tailwind CSS for React Native, a seemingly simple way to build UI that has lots of challenges to build. On top of that he's building NativeWind UI, a component library that leverages NativeWind to build native like experiences. We also talk about the challenges of making money on top of open source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QvZKlnb7M
https://www.danstepanov.com/
https://x.com/nativewindui
https://rn.new/
https://github.com/danstepanov
https://www.nativewind.dev/
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This week Evan You joins us again to talk about his new company, VoidZero, and the future of JavaScript tooling. Evan build Vite and ushered in a new era of JavaScript tooling, but thinks he can do better now by building up new rust based tooling. Rolldown is the first step in this as they aim to make build times a thing of the past.
https://bsky.app/profile/evanyou.me
https://www.accel.com/noteworthy/our-seed-investment-in-voidzero-evan-yous-bold-vision-for-javascript-tooling
https://voidzero.dev/posts/announcing-voidzero-inc
https://github.com/yyx990803
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This week Nate Wienert stop by for a second appearance. Nate is the creator of Tamagui, a framework for building universal apps with React Native. That work led him to create One Stack, a framework for building local first universal apps with React Native.
https://onestack.dev/
https://x.com/one__js
https://x.com/natebirdman
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Do you use cloud development environments? Do you use dev containers? This week we talk to Ivan Burazin, a co-founder of Daytona, a dev environment manager and AI developer. Ivan has been working on this problem for almost two decades now, originally for PHPAnywhere/CodeAnywhere, but now for Daytona. Daytona is a self-hosted and secure open source development environment manager. Come with us as we learn about the history and the future of dev environments in the cloud.
https://daytona.io
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivanburazin/
https://github.com/daytonaio/daytona
https://x.com/ivanburazin
https://medium.com/@ivanburazin/the-real-ai-coding-race-9fe2a5f7b9c5
https://medium.com/@ivanburazin/enterprise-grade-alternative-to-github-codespaces-118a75cc4e00
https://codeanywhere.com/blog/the-strategic-partnership-between-codeanywhere-and-daytona
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This week we have the unique opportunity to talk to Erez Zukerman, the founder and CEO of ZSA, a company that makes open source keyboards. ErgoDox is a split keyboard that is based on open source work. Come with use as we discuss the history of ErgoDox, the challenges of making a keyboard, and all the cool products they ship.
https://www.zsa.io/
https://ergodox-ez.com/
https://people.zsa.io/
https://blog.zsa.io/
https://ergodox-ez.com/crowdfunding
https://www.ergodox.io/ (Original OSS version)
https://www.zsa.io/tisha-talks-switches
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This week we got the opportunity to talk to Kris Rasmussen, the CTO of Figma. We talked about Figma's history, the evolution of Figma, and what they see as the future of designer/developer tools. We dig deep on what they're doing with Dev Mode and ponder how AI might change the way we work.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristopherrasmussen/
https://x.com/kris_rasmussen
https://github.com/krisr
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This week we have Nathan Manceaux-Panot, the creator of Retcon, a git client. Retcon is a git client that helps you rewrite git history with remarkable ease. You can drag and drop commits to create new commits, undo, redo, and more.
https://cykele.ro/
https://mas.to/@Cykelero
https://github.com/Cykelero
https://indieapps.space/@Retcon
https://retcon.app/
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Join us as we talk to Guido Rosso, a co-founder of Rive a new graphics format made for interactive mediums. Guido has a storied career in animation and is building the next generation of graphics formats for the web with his twin brother, Luigi. Rive is the culmination of that experience that lets you create interactive graphics in a way that is familiar to designers and developers.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/guidorosso/
https://x.com/guidorosso
https://dribbble.com/guidorosso
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This week we have David Mytton, a co-founder of console.dev, and a co-founder of ArcJet. At console.dev, David is always looking for ways to improve the developer experience. With ArcJet, David is try to make it easier for developers to build secure applications.
https://davidmytton.blog/
Co-founder of https://console.dev/
https://x.com/davidmytton
https://arcjet.com/
https://github.com/davidmytton
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This week we have Predrag Gruevski to discuss TrustFall, a new query-based tool for querying anything. Trustfall makes it simple to turn anything into queryable data. Predrag used that to create cargo-semver-checks, a tool that checks your Rust packages for semantic versioning compliance.
https://x.com/PredragGruevski
https://predr.ag/
https://github.com/obi1kenobi/
https://crates.io/crates/cargo-semver-checks
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This week we talk to Travis Arnold, a developer who is working on a new tool to make managing typescript documentation easier. Omnidoc is a tool that allows you to build a fully customized documentation solution, and the examples are event type checked. We also talk about his other projects, Restyle, JSX UI, and the future of React.
https://x.com/souporserious
https://souporserious.com/
https://jsxui.com
https://x.com/omnidocdev
https://x.com/jsxui
https://omnidoc.dev/collections
https://www.restyle.dev/
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This week we're joined by Jordan Harband, a pillar of the npm ecosystem. Jordan maintains a staggering amount of open source projects that are used by millions of developers. Jordan has some opinions that go against the mainstream when it comes to legacy support. Join us as we try to understand his perspective.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljharb/
https://github.com/ljharb
https://x.com/ljharb
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On this week's episode, we're excited to have Brandon Roberts on the show. Brandon is a software engineer at Open Sauced, a company that helps other companies build better open source software. He's also a creator of Analog, an full stack framework for building Angular apps.
https://brandonroberts.dev/
https://github.com/brandonroberts
https://www.youtube.com/brandonrobertsdev
https://x.com/brandontroberts
https://analogjs.org/
https://opensauced.pizza/
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This week we're joined by Richard Feldman, the author of Roc lang, a futuristic functional programming language. Richard is a software engineer at Zed, a company that making a new code editor that's built on the Rust programming language and integrates AI. We talk about all the crazy feature that Roc lang has, and how it might change the way you write code.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rtfeldman/
https://github.com/rtfeldman
https://x.com/rtfeldman?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
https://www.roc-lang.org/
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This week we're delighted to have Nicholas Zakas on the show to talk about ESLint. ESLint is a tool that helps you find and fix problems in your JavaScript code by writing plugins that check for patterns in your code's AST. We talk about the history of ESLint, the challenges of building a linter, and the future of of ESLint.
https://x.com/slicknet
https://eslint.org/
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This week we're joined by Nathan Walker and Eduardo Speroni, two members of the NativeScript team. NativeScript is a framework that enables you to use native platform APIs in JavaScript. We talk about the history of NativeScript, the current state of the project, and the future of cross-platform mobile development.
https://nativescript.org/
https://nativescript.new/
https://x.com/NativeScript
Nathan Walker
https://x.com/wwwalkerrun
https://github.com/nathanwalker
Eduardo Speroni
https://x.com/eduardosperoni
https://github.com/edusperoni
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This week we have Robby Russell, the creator of Oh My ZSH, and CEO of Planet Argon. We talk about the history of Oh My ZSH, the history of Planet Argon, and the future of terminal environments.
https://ohmyz.sh/
https://github.com/robbyrussell
https://x.com/robbyrussell
https://robbyonrails.com/
https://www.planetargon.com/
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This week we talk to James Arthur, co-founder ElectricSQL, a local first sync engine for Postgres. ElectricSQL wants to make it easy to build local first apps with Postgres. Instead of worring about how to sync data between devices, ElectricSQL lets you reason about your database as local and running on your device.
https://electric-sql.com/
https://x.com/thruflo
https://hr.linkedin.com/in/thruflo
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This week we have Lu Wilson (also known as TodePond) on the podcast to talk about their adventure in creating coding. Lu works at TLDraw making fantastic demo of what can build built on TLDraw by using AI in creative ways. They are also a resident at Ink and Switch and they do explorations in the future of computing.
https://x.com/TodePond
https://www.todepond.com/
https://github.com/TodePond/DreamBerd
https://github.com/TodePond/Arroost
https://github.com/tldraw/make-real
https://github.com/TodePond/CellPond
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Andrew
https://waku.gg
https://turbo.build/blog/turbo-2-0
Justin
https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262547482/building-simcity/
https://toolstash.com/
Lu
https://saladroom.net/
https://github.com (!) (for sharing gifs and videos without compression)
https://getkap.co/
This week we have Naman Goel, the technical lead of StyleX. Stylex is a CSS-in-JS used by Facebook to build the styling of Facebook's products. We talk about the history of StyleX, how it works, and how it's better than other CSS-in-JS solutions. We also talk about how flow is better than TypeScript and why you should be using Swift over Rust.
https://x.com/naman34
https://x.com/stylexjs
https://stylexjs.com/
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