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The focus of these audio interviews is the deeply personal impact of UFO contact. Each episode features in-depth conversations with researchers, experiencers, and visionaries—all exploring the UFO mystery. This series has been a labor of love. New episodes are being added every month. There is a Patreon option with the same name, hosting special content for members. The show is hosted by Mike Clelland, the author of four books: The Messengers, Stories from The Messengers, Hidden Experience, and The Unseen. All are available as audiobooks.

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Rabbit Trap is a movie about fairies. It’s also a story of the landscape, and the yearning for connection.  Bryn Chainey is a young British director with a vision of how a film should feel, and the emotions it can generate. The film features Dev Patel and Rosie McEwen and a mysterious third character, played by Jade Croot. But the real stars are the sound and the land. We talk about movies, folklore, inspiration, healing, and the mystery of the creative process. Rabbit Trap is available for streaming on Amazon Prime, Apple TV and Google Play. Recommended listening: Bryn talks with Tim on Strange Familiars Bryn talks with Jo on The Modern Fairy Sightings Podcast Please note: This is my second podcast within a week, and the third in less than a month—and that's a lot. Part of me wanted to wait to publish this one, but it was done and I want it out there. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Kristen shared an experience with me in the autumn of 2006. We saw owls, and that event changed my life. She shares her memories and insights of those twilight moments, and a lot more. Her life has had its own challenges and new beginnings. Kristen played an important role in my story, and I've been wanting to do this interview for years. This is a lively conversation on life, wilderness, spirituality, and friendship. We talked about a photo from our second trip into the mountains, and it's included in the second link below. Owls at sunset — This is the second post on my Hidden Experience blog, from March 4, 2009. The first comment is from Whitley Strieber, the second is from Mac Tonnies. Kristy talks about owls (and God) — Another blog post, a follow up with Kristen, from March 12, 2009. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This is a wide-ranging conversation with one of our great thinkers. Joshua Cutchin has published seven books in less than ten years, and each of these has pushed at the boundaries of how we understand the paranormal. This includes UFOs, cryptids, fairies, psi phenomenon, consciousness, the creative process, and death. We focus on the need to express our first person voice. There is no one I enjoy talking with more! Find Josh’s books HERE Joshua’s homepage Speaking of Jung on UFOs My two previous interviews with Josh: Mysteries of the Faerie Realm from 2019 and The Overlap of Experiences from 2021.  The recent movie RABBIT TRAP in discussion with The Modern Fairy sightings Podcast and Strange Familiars Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This is a short conversation between two extraordinary thinkers, Terence McKenna and Kenneth Ring. The book The Omega Project was written by Ring, and in it he explores the relationship between the UFO phenomenon and the Near Death Experience. This audio was lifted from a video shot in Prague, Czechoslovakia during the International Transpersonal Conference in June 1992, known at Prague Gnosis. This was initially posted on my Hidden Experience blog back in January of 2014, and the audio quality was terrible. I'm reposting it with enhanced audio, and it's now a much improved listening experience. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
I started a substack account. I've been wanting to get back into blogging, and also to have a way to help promote my podcast. I wrote a short essay about my frustrations with how "disclosure" has dominated the entirety of the UFO community. It's titled Disclosure Without a Spark, the full text is linked HERE. My audio reading is above. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
“The UFO as evolutionary function, seeding new myths and meanings” This from Kelly Chase. We discuss her recent essay, Unfurling the Myth. This is an exploration into the deepest mystery, and why it seems to present itself as myth—with transformation as its inevitable outcome. Our previous conversation from January 2025 is essential listening, as well as Kelly’s reading of her insightful paper. Both are linked below. COSMOSIS—Kelly reads: Unfurling The Myth — Narrative as interface between Psyche and the field, HERE Episode 15. Kelly Chase-UFOs and the deeper self, HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This is a short audio post, and it isn’t numbered because it’s not a formal interview.  Earlier this year, I gave a short talk about my work and my own experiences. This was at the Archives of the Impossible conference at Rice University in Houston, Texas. I was invited to this impressive event by Jeff Kripal and Karin Austin. I thank them at the beginning. I also said this was a big deal for me, and it was. The audio of my talk was lifted from a youtube video put out by Rice University, and here's a link to that video. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This follow-up conversation with Samantha was inspired by an owl. Really. The interview begins with me explaining why there needed to be a part two, and it involves an illustration created to match a psychic vision during meditation (see link below). This led to a deeper conversation on the fears, doubts, and challenges of UFO contact. Why do these elusive realms seem to overlap? Samantha’s book HERE Her blog, Zombies in PJs Link to the blog post from 2015 with the illustration and audio, HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Samantha has had a LOT of out-of-body experiences. She’s written a beautiful book, aptly titled OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES, with the subtitle Explorations and encounters with the astral plane. She plays dual roles as an author—academic researcher and poetic memoirist. She digs deep, vigilantly recounting her journeys within these mystical realms.This conversation has a Part Two, inspired by an owl (available soon). Samantha’s book HERE Her blog, Zombies in PJs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Animals, especially deer, play a powerful role within the contact experiences of Indi. This is a heartfelt and candid conversation with a woman who has endured a remarkable lifetime of mystical events. From emotional despair to a transformative Samadhi experience. Indi’s story is rich with meaning and hope, yet her journey has been challenging. UFOs, psychic knowing, giant glowing orbs, symbolic archetypes, and a four-foot tall owl, are all vital players on her spiritual path. And, Indi is also a channeler! Indi’s website HERE Previous interview on The UFO Chronicles: HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This was not an easy interview. Rachel’s story is heartbreaking, yet it's also a remarkable testament of hope and faith. Rachel and her husband Shane had a daughter, Kenadie. In 2018, they lost her to cancer. She was only ten years old, and grief shattered their lives. But amidst the darkness, signs began to appear—glimmers of hope, whispers of connection, and a path to something greater. Rachel now runs an instagram page titled for11_together, a site dedicated to sharing stories of connection. I didn't realize until the end of the interview, but this was Rachel's first time ever as a guest on a podcast. When she told me this, I was so grateful—this was a powerful and emotional conversation. • for11_together on Instagram, HERE • Rachel's homepage, HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Remembering Earl Grey

Remembering Earl Grey

2025-05-0307:42

Earl Grey passed on to a better place on April 27th. He was MUFON State Director for Southern California. He was a beloved comrade in this small community of researchers and experiencers. I only met him once, but we had the chance to speak together a few times. He told a beautiful owl story on an interview he hosted a little less than a year ago. This excerpt is less than eight minutes long, and it gives an insight into this gentle soul. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Simon is a very prolific podcaster with two shows: Our Paranormal Afterlife and The Alien UFO Podcast. He is also a hypnotherapist specializing in past-life regressions. And he just published a book, Verified Near Death Experiences. We explore the issues of consciousness continuing after death and the UFO contact experience, and how these two seemingly disparate studies overlap. Simon is remarkably well informed on these subjects, and this comes from his years talking directly to the people involved. This episode also includes a chapter from his book, read by Simon. Verified Near Death Experiences, the book HERE Simon's homepage HERE Our Paranormal Afterlife podcast HERE The Alien UFO Podcast, HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How does the near-death experience overlap with UFO contact?  This show explores the remarkable parallels between these two mysterious phenomena. Yet there is more than just a checklist of similarities, there is a heartfelt story of transformation. Midy shares what happened to her, and how it changed everything. Her book, Dying to Meet Them is a testament to her powerful spiritual journey. Mindy's book HERE Her homepage HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
You might know Kelly from her very popular podcast—The UFO Rabbit Hole, but you might not know she wrote and starred in COSMOSIS, a three-part documentary series on UFOs. This is a deep exploration of a multi-layered phenomenon. (The series is found on AppleTV and most streaming services) Kelly is known as a methodical and disciplined researcher. Yet, you might not know about her own experiences and the depth of her spiritual sensitivity. It’s this more elusive facet of the mystery we’ll be exploring in this episode. COSMOSIS—The documentary, HERE Part ONE—Through The Looking Glass: My initiation into the anomalous, HERE Part TWO—Through the Looking Glass: The strange tale of Tom Matte and Upsight, HERE Kelly’s book, HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Shayla is an author, musician, and zealous mountain traveler. She has accomplished the triple crown of the long trails, which is a remarkable achievement, both mentally and physically. She has also had owl experiences that have changed the direction of her life. This is a remarkably thoughtful and gentle conversation about the healing power of wilderness and following a shamanic path. Find more here: Her book Footprint of a Heart Shayla's homepage Shayla's YouTube page Shayla on Backpacker Radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Scarlett’s beautiful little book, We Met on the Other Side, tells a remarkable near-death experience story—one that will lift your heart. We explore her life and all the overlapping events and challenges that surround the NDE. She is a powerful psychic, a Reiki healer, and a champion for the power of love. Her website, linked HERE. Her book, linked HERE. Watch Scarlett’s talk at Rice University's 2023 Archives of the Impossible Conference, linked HERE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
I met Sev at a conference in 2020 and saw her powerful presentation. She spoke about her contact experiences and how she worked to integrate them into her life, allowing her to follow a truer, more authentic path. I was struck by her clarity and hopeful outlook. She is a powerful voice within this community. This was a fun conversation, and we both laughed a lot. But we also ventured into into the deepest waters of this emotional mystery. She has a wonderful book, titled—You Have the Right to Talk to Aliens. This is a short, straightforward book that can easily be read in a few sittings. Her story is of moving beyond the victim, to facing her fears and working with the challenging emotional energies of direct contact. Her site, linked HERE. Her book, linked HERE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Author and researcher Preston Dennett talks about his most recent book, Symmetry. He shares the mic with Dolly Safran, who is at the center of this mind-bending story of UFO contact. Two people, each with a remarkable set of life experiences. Past lives, psychic knowing, OBEs, and an NDE—and so much more, including piloting a flying saucer! There is no way to sum up this breathtaking story in these meager show notes, so just listen. Here are some links: The book, Symmetry, HERE.  Mike’s very fun 2020 interview with Preston, HERE. Mike’s 2012 interview with Preston, HERE. Preston’s YouTube channel, HERE. Preston’s homepage, HERE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Red Pill Junkie is a pseudonym. Don’t tell anyone, but his real name is Miguel, and he lives in Mexico City. Like me, he's an illustrator and cartoonist. Miguel was involved with a remarkable project. He illustrated a set of Tarot cards, where the major arcana were represented by characters from UFO history. This project is at the heart of our conversation. We talk about creativity, and the role of the artist—and how synchronicity weaves its way through this elusive process. And — there’s a Patreon EXTRA, where we continue our conversation. The links: Miguel did a powerful video presentation about these cards for Ryan Sprague’s ANOMACON conference, linked HERE. See some high-quality images the cards are at THE DAILY GRAIL Red Pill Junkie’s blog HERE. I interviewed Miguel back in 2020 on THE UNSEEN, a show I hosted on Whitley Strieber’s Unknown Country site, linked HERE. Presently, the cards are NOT available online. But, you can order them at this email address: ufologytarot@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ron Bass

Nick always brings the heat with some great research, great stuff, but at the same time it's hard to take his research as non biased information when he constantly reminds us of his disdain for Christianity. In this discussion he quickly chastised the Collins Elite for even discussing Christianity as a weapon against an enemy who he says clearly identified themselves as demonic opposition of Christ. Water puts out fires no matter what your feelings are about fire fighters.

Jan 14th
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