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Author: Steven Moe

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Conversations with people who are living with purpose and having a positive impact in our world. We take time to listen to them as they reflect on their life journeys and what has shaped them into who they are today.
181 Episodes
Terry Shubkin is Chief Excitement Officer at Young Enterprise which is focused on "Inspiring Students. Unleashing Leaders."  In this interview we hear about her life journey and what led her to taking on that role.  I really enjoyed hearing about her background and interesting journey and lessons learned when making life decisions ("what's the worst that could happen?") as well as the work being done to promote enterprise among high school students.  We also talk about the shift in focus over time among students who are increasingly interested in the impact their companies will have.  With thousands of alumni who have been through the programme there is now a lasting legacy of businesses whose CEOs first learned about business through YES. Website: Facebook: Report on Social Enterprise mentioned: YES Annual Report here 2 minute overview video of what they do - 2019 YES Alumni Report (Life after YES) – gives the outcomes from our alumni survey including the stats I mentioned around the number of entrepreneurs, the number of companies they have created and the number of jobs - Video if people want to volunteer and not sure what it means to mentor a YES company - If people want to #loveYES and #shopYES – the YES Market where YES companies can sell their products online in a central place.​ Social enterprise book here From website: "Our vision at Young Enterprise is to build a pipeline of entrepreneurial-minded young people who will boost the prosperity in Aotearoa. We do this by preparing young people to thrive in business and in life. We create authentic learning experiences and bring enterprise into the classroom." Video of this interview: For more interviews check out      
Sally curates unique learning experiences,, and delivers may of her programmes at Makahika Outdoor Pursuit Centre and in this interview we find out about her background, influences, time in the military and what led to what she does today.  We also find several rabbit holes to go down including what makes a good leader, how important soft skills are and the role of the 'camp fire' and nature when it comes to learning.  I really enjoyed this conversation and am sure you will as well.  Makahika Outdoor Pursuit Centre   Video of this interview here:   For more interviews see  
David is a lecturer at AUT and Co-Director of Mōhio's Climate Innovation Lab.  In this interview we talk about his early life, the influence of his parents in shaping his focus on impact and many rabbit holes around public policy and consumer choice.  David has a D.Phil in Politics from the University of Oxford and experience in journalism, publishing and the non-governmental sector. His research interests include ethics and public policy, and environmental policy. Video version of this interview: Website: Latest book edited: For more interviews visit    
This is a short book review of “New Power: How anyone can persuade, mobilize, and succeed in our chaotic connected age.” By Jeremy Heimans and Henry Timms. For text of this review look here: For more interviews look here  
Luke is a young entrepreneur and in this interview we hear about the challenges of setting up a new venture.  We also find out about his life story and journey so far.  I really enjoyed my conversation with Luke and learning about Vxt which is a software company revolutionising small business communications by providing affordable voice message management and automation tools.  Seeds podcast is trying to build up an ecosystem of stories of journeys of people that we can learn from and so this is a welcome addition. Video version of interview here: From VXT website description: "Read your voicemail, forward to email automatically, and save multiple greetings with our intelligent inbox. Your time is precious so stop wasting it on traditional voicemail." Website: For more interviews check out  
A beautiful original song played on the piano by Matthew Goldsworthy which he performed live for the Impact Unconference last Friday 24 April. It was too wonderful not to share with you all. The power of music to evoke memories and emotions. Would love to get him in the studio to record with violin and cello in the background - contact me if you want to help make that happen. Video of his full performance of other pieces as well (30 minutes - this is a video): His earlier interview on seeds describing Youth Arts New Zealand: Matthew on Spotify: Matthew on Facebook: Other Impact Unconference videos: For more interviews visit
This is the audio of part of the opening session at the virtual Impact Unconference held on 24 April 2020 where I shared about the context in which the conference was happening and asked some questions about 'what next'.  Full video of opening session: Videos of the IU: For more videos and interviews visit  #IUNZ2020
Michael is New Zealand's premier speaking coach.  We find out a lot about speaking in this interview - why we fear it and what can help.  You will want to listen in on our conversation as I learned so much from his observations.  We also hear about his early years (including in an orphanage) and leaving school very young and what led to being the speaker coach for people like Lilia Tarawa (over 9 million TEDX listens… and the fifth most viewed TEDx talk on the planet).  I really appreciated Michael's vulnerability in sharing his story and also freely giving us so many tips and insights into the art of crafting a good talk! Website (has links to resources mentioned in talk). Video version of this interview: LinkedIn: Lilia Tarawa TedX talk: Bio: Michael works with leaders, innovators, creative thinkers, change makers, disruptors, and inspirational individuals. He coaches CEOs, celebrities, sales executives, tech giants, best-selling authors, professors, PhDs, and start-up founders to achieve outstanding results from their keynote talks, investment pitches and formal presentations.  ​Michael also coaches sales executives, like Stephen Pike from Williams Corporation, sell real estate value at over $700,000 from a 5-minute talk and start-up founders attract over a half a million dollars in funding from a 7-minute investment pitch whilst also winning ‘Best pitch of the night’ award in front of an audience of over 900 potential investors.  LINKS: LinkedIn - Facebook - Instagram - For more interviews visit 
Jenny has spent decades working in Philanthropy in New Zealand. In this interview we hear about her childhood and some of the influences that shaped her, becoming a teacher, travelling overseas and what she learned in India, the work she did with organisations involved in Philanthropy including working with Sir Roy Mckenzie on setting up his personal foundation, being involved in the creation of Philanthropy New Zealand and leading the largest New Zealand community trust, Foundation North, from 2004 for 15 years.  Throw in also leading Fulbright New Zealand (awarding academic scholarships) and being a trustee of other groups like the Vodafone Foundation and you'll see we touch on many topics.  We also focus in on discussing what she has learned about developing effective strategy, what listening to communities really looks like, the role of philanthropy and what works and doesn't work.  I really enjoyed this wide ranging conversation with Jenny and know you will as well. Video version here: Linked In:  
Glenn has had a variety of roles in social services and is currently helping ex prisoners with accomodation with The Salvation Army in Addington, and prior to that working with Stepping Stone with community mental health recovery.  In this interview we find out about those initiatives but also hear about his cancer journey - from feeling a soreness on his tongue to having surgery just a few days after this interview was recorded. Since recording this interview several months ago the good news is the cancer has not spread and Glenn's speech is adapting and returning to normal despite a large part of his tongue being removed. Earlier short episode about being diagnosed early: On Addington Salvation Army: Stepping Stone: For more interviews check out
Ursula Cheer is the Dean of the Canterbury Law School.  In this interview we find out about her life and the fact that she has really had three careers out of her law degree: as a lawyer, as an academic and working at Parliament - including as a speech writer for Geoffrey Palmer.  We also find out about legal education now - and what it might look like in the future.  I really enjoyed hearing about her life story and some of the insights about times in New Zealand's past when she was working in Wellington.   Canterbury Law School: If you enjoyed this you might like some of the others in the back catalogue - have a look at   
Announcing the first New Zealand Virtual Impact Unconference on 24 April 2020.  Collaboration is our future.  This unconference wants to get us out of silos and encourage discussion and cross fertilisation across specialties.  Website:  The short version of its origins are simple:  We were going to do an in person unconference in May 2020 in Christchurch for 300+.  Plans were laid.  Then Covid-19 came and we pivoted - a lot!  Now, it will be virtual.  An unconference turns to the attendees and asks them to design the program.  How?  Well, at the first zoom event on Tuesday 21st April at noon there will be short lightning talks from key players in the areas of Arts, Environment, Tech, Business, Housing, Community etc to inspire us.  Then you submit your session ideas for 30 minute slots – in other words, you might be the presenter!  If chosen then that session gets allocated a time between 1-5pm on Friday 24th April within one of the zoom streams.  Visit the website for more.
Shamubeel is one of New Zealand's leading economists so this interview provides a fascinating insight into COVID-19 from an economic impact perspective.  But we end up talking about a whole lot more than that - like what the crisis is revealing about us as humans and what it is that we might build the future on.  Hint, it involves resilience, cooperation, learning from each other and taking care of the most vulnerable.   The video of this is here: I really enjoyed this interview and am sure you will as well.   Website: The other episode on articulating values: Community Finance which we mention: Ākina which we mention:  and interview with Louise Aitken For more stories visit 
Tamara is a flautist, composer, dancer and much more - in this interview we talk about her love of music and how that began as well as her band Mundi.  We hear about her early days as well as getting the chance to hear her play some different flutes for us (also released as a separate stand alone episode earlier).  I met Tamara at TedX Christchurch so it shows how volunteering for something can lead to new conversations that can lead to - a podcast interview!   Mundi: Mundi site: For more visit  
The headlines are dominating on the topic of Coronavirus / COVID-19 and I just woke up remembering that I interviewed one of the world leading experts on infectious diseases last year: Professor David Murdoch.  So I pulled out the part of his interview where we discussed viruses, diseases and antibiotics and am putting it out as a shorter episode here.  We obviously did not know about COVID-19 at that time but we discuss topics that are related and more relevant than ever now. To listen to his full interview visit here: Website: Article and interview featuring David on Coronavirus: For more interviews visit   
Chris switched career in his early 40s and in this interview we find out about what led him to do that.  We also hear about his family dynamics growing up (with a Father who left to work in Saudi Arabia) and the impact that had on them, and how he ended up in New Zealand.   He now works helping people to find their purpose and in particular coaches people about building Winning Habits.  I really enjoyed hearing about his life and some of his insights and I know you will too.   Blog on busyness that we mention: Earlier episode with Kit Hindin on busyness: Pehakucha talk mentioned in the intro that I did on seeds recently: He says: "I believe we are all our habits, the sum of our habits. What we enjoy, what we create, the partner we may or may not end up with. Everything. At the end of the day worthy lives and achievements are creating through habits, with often perseverance, self-discipline and resilience being the most important traits." Website: Contact: 021 708 751| For more interviews visit  About Chris: I am a mindset and performance coach on developing and sustaining Winning Habits. A former career engineer, I worked internationally in engineering for twenty years chiefly in consulting engineering and gave this away in 2011/12 to find another place. The place being driven by a calling to be more engaged with people and teams to enable them to perform, repeatedly, at a high level. The habits idea is anchored in my belief system that we are all our habits, from how we dream, think, behave, talk and lead. Once a purpose focussed routine is established the sky is the limit. My purpose is for individuals, teams and organizations to be exceptional.
Brett is a generalist with a deep interest in many areas.  While practising as a GP he has done a lot of research into psychotherapy and the connection between life events, stress and a person's health and 'somatisation' - the expression in physical symptoms of psychological distress.  In this interview we talk about that but also about his family's history (including someone who was at the signing of the Treaty of Waiting), his perspectives on spirituality and the role it has to play in life and many other topics.  I know you will enjoy this wide ranging conversation. One of Brett's talks on somatisation: If you like it there are many more interviews at   
In this conversation we hear about Raphael's life and his background.  That starts out with finding more about his childhood and what he studied at University, the chance meeting at a Startup Weekend which led to a new venture and saw him working on creating Amy, an AI powered maths tutor?  I really enjoyed this conversation and am sure you will too.   Learn more about Amy and try her out -   For High Schools -   For Primary Schools -     Amy is an AI powered private maths tutor which which was built to democratise education globally. She was designed to integrate into any online learning system or she can be used on her own.  Amy makes learning maths easy by giving students realtime feedback and automatically filling their knowledge gaps before they even realise they are there. She is available to help 24/7 and easily adapts to new languages.
Souhila Abdelazziz shares with us some of her journey, what it was like growing up in Algeria, the decision to move to New Zealand, being a new immigrant, the importance of attitude to all circumstances, the impact of the shootings in Christchurch and founding The Metamorphosis Path Academy.  I enjoyed hearing about Souhila's journey and am sure you will as well. Facebook: There are more than 160 other interviews in the back catalogue so you might want to check them out at 
Scott founded 'I Have a Dream NZ' and in this interview we learn all about the impact it is having on the lives of kids through a programme that helps children from low income communities reach their education and career goals by providing a long term programme of mentoring, tutoring, and enrichment.   And by long term, he means long term - the people involved commit to supporting and being involved with the same children from a very young age right through to early adulthood.  It's an amazing program - more below - but we also find out about Scott's life and his background in Invercargill, working for Intel in the US and what he learned there about culture and work practises, what he learned working at Intel, impact investing, moving back to NZ and being involved in founding IceAngels one of the first Angel investment groups in New Zealand.   This is episode 162 - if you like it, consider checking out earlier ones at  Website: 'I Have a Dream NZ Overview and detailed information and links: The I Have a Dream programme has been operating in the Wesley community of Mt Roskill since 2003, with significant success.  Our results from the project (see table below) demonstrate that investing in children for their entire educational journey (from Primary School to Tertiary and/or Employment) can solve the problem of inter-generational poverty. These Auckland “Dreamers” have achieved on many metrics, including leadership, community participation, sports and quality of life.  But perhaps the most significant, and certainly the most easily quantified, is their educational success.  We tracked them against a Comparison Group, which was the Year Level ahead of them at the same Decile 1 Primary School in Mt Roskill.  80% entered tertiary education compared to 30% in the comparison group. These young people are now 24 years old, and most of them have entered successful careers.  This project was based on the US model which has enjoyed 37 years of success, with more than 200 projects impacting the lives of over 17,000 young people.  Our pilot project in Mt Roskill was designed to assess whether this American “franchise” can be applied successfully in the NZ context.  We have proven that it can. The next stage is to demonstrate that we can scale this out, cost-effectively, to all the schools in a community.  We started expanding to 1,000+ young people across 4 schools in the Tikipunga/Otangarei community in Whangarei in 2016.  We want to take the Government with us on this 10–15 year journey, with the intention that they will then roll this out to all high needs communities in NZ. Our points of difference, compared to many other education and youth development initiatives, are: ·       Long Term Intervention – 15 years, from Year 1 through to tertiary and employment ·       Full-time Adult Advocate – a Navigator works with each cohort (between 50 and 90 children in each Year Level ) for their entire educational journey, from Primary School to Tertiary Study and/or a Career ·       Inclusiveness – we work with all the children in a disadvantaged community – we don't just target specific kids based on their talents, risk factors, ethnicity or socio-economic status ·       Aspirational – every child has potential, so our kaupapa (mission) is to help uncover and develop that child’s dream and unique capabilities ·       Holistic – we offer wrap-around services, and do whatever it takes to keep each child on track ·       Collective Impact – we work closely with the schools, and we integrate the activities of all the non-profits and Government agencies that work with each child and whānau (family) Importantly, we have undertaken ongoing professional research that proves the programme’s effectiveness and outcomes.  Some of this evaluation can be seen at: These four links below give a good introduction to the extension of the I Have a Dream programme into Whangarei: ·        This 4 minute video provides an overview of our programme’s history in Mt Roskill and the future in Tikipunga/Otangarei ·        Personal testimony videos from some of our Dreamer alumni:  Amelia, Anna, Mosa, Robel, and Tali ·        This clip features a couple of our new Whangarei students and introduces some of our Navigators.  This was produced by our major funder, Foundation North ·        This clip was produced by the NZ Herald, as part of their series of articles on NCEA.  It features one of our Mt Roskill graduates, Amelia Unufe Beyond this information, I’d be happy to share our Business and Operations plans, our Annual Report and Audited Accounts, and the 6-monthly Performance Reports prepared for one of our major funders (Foundation North). We also want to inform public debate about the need for this kind of investment, hence our excitement at the sponsorship from the MediaWorks Foundation.  Have you noticed the TV and radio advertisements hosted by Duncan Garner? This programme is designed to produce positive outcomes for the children involved, their whānau and the community they live in.  By offering the services of a consistent caring adult for the 15 years of their schooling life, we help to ensure that each child graduates with the academic and social skills to successfully transition to a career or further study.  This will ensure that they become positive role-models who add value to their communities, increasing economic and social outcomes for our country. Here are three recent videos we’ve produced, with the pro bono assistance of local providers: 1.      This 2 minute video was shown at the 5th Annual IceAngels Tech Showcase in Auckland on 21st Sept, 2017.  Please listen to these children, assisted by well-known TV News presenter, Duncan Garner, explain why the roomful of tech investors should support our programme.  We applaud the donors from the tech and angel investment sectors that are acknowledged in the video …. and are glad they didn’t mind being called “Donuts” …  J 2.     We released this new Dreamer Song at the Town Hall in Whangarei on Sat 21st Oct, 2017.  I Have a Dream was selected by Menzies, a global aviation services firm, as their charity partner for 2017.  This meant that they had a team of executives working with the programme for the week, culminating in the release of this awesome new song.  It was written by Joby Hopa (our Community Engagement Manager) and performed by 40 of the Dreamers from the 4 schools we’re working with in the Tikipunga/Otangarei community. 3.      All of our volunteers deserve this kind of recognition! We’ve also been lucky to have two great stories in the press recently: 1.      This article (and short video) in a recent issue of the Northern Advocate described an awesome camp for these tamariki (children).  All of them experienced a wealth of exciting new experiences, they had to push their boundaries, and they discovered new capabilities within themselves.  It’s a fairly expensive outing, on a per head basis, but the ROI in terms of their confidence and memories will be huge, and long-lasting 2.      This article in the Dec. ‘18 issue of North & South magazine illustrates the power of our model of inter-generational investment. It’s important to note that we are continually refining and developing the principles behind our programme.  Important elements that have been evolved specifically for the context in Aotearoa NZ are: 1.     Wairua/Tikanga Māori.  We recognise that Wairua/Tikanga Māori is fundamental to Māori existence, so as we are now expanding into a predominantly Māori community, we uphold a core set of values which determine our objectives and programming.  These key values are: Ako (learning), Aroha (love), Whānaunatanga (relationships), Tumanako (hope) and Rangatiratanga (autonomy). 2.     Circle of Courage.  The Circle of Courage model portrays four growth needs of all children: Belonging, Mastery, Independence, and Generosity.  This internationally applied model has evolved to act as a guide for adults to better serve children and youth who are in emotional pain from conflict in the family, school, community, peer groups or with self. We know there is more that we can do to deepen and broaden the reach of our programme, e.g., ·        During his recent visit Richie Poulton, the PM’s Chief Science Adviser for Poverty & Well-being, encouraged us to extend our mahi back to birth, rather than starting in Year 1 of Primary School.  We could do this internally, but see benefit in partnering with an expert in this space, such as Talking Matters. ·       We see the benefit in working more closely with other educationally-focused programmes such as Teach First NZ and Springboard Trust to become a more complete solution to the goal of raising education achievement in our schools. ·        There are many other wonderful groups in NZ doing similar and parallel work, such as The Wise Group, Mahitahi Hauora, Tamaki Regeneration Company, etc., whom we can learn from and share with.      
Comments (3)

Dorje Mckinnon

Thanks for helping remind me what it was like to be 11. Basketball story is great!

Sep 9th
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Jonathan Lee

A few weeks ago, I sat down with Steven and had a solid, fun, recorded conversation on purpose and life. Steven recently published a legal handbook on social enterprises in New Zealand and has been doing interviews with entrepreneurs and social enterprises about their journeys on this podcast. Through mutual friends and overlapping circles we got connected quite quickly. I feel honored to have been invited to be on the podcast. The growing list of humans and their truly impressive set of accomplishments and contributions to earth and society are humbling. Steven masterfully guided the conversation from my childhood to teenager years as an immigrant, as he waives into it his own story and aspirations, and we move into my university days and during that the exposure to the greater world, its beauty, its problems, my craft, and my finding of sometimes-often bumpy pathways that have taken me where I am currently. I told him it has been years since anyone has dug that deep to my past-history and the aspirations that have been part of my constant evolution, and it was truly an enlightening articulation/process for myself as well. After our interview/conversation, I have listened to several podcasts with other interviewees and have enjoyed their stories, lessons, and journeys. I am looking forward to soaking up some more! I can definitely recommend this podcast and hope that there is great value for you too.

Jan 23rd
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