Cooper & Cary Have Words

Does it really matter what we wear, or don't wear? Cooper and Cary have words about nudity and modesty. Does Christian modesty mean all public nudity is forbidden for Christians? What about looking at nudity in a Renaissance painting, or in a movie? How about if it's *reeeeally* tastefully done? Should we avoid nudity primarily because it might encourage lust in others... or is there a more fundamental reason for doing so?Jason Ward's article on nudity is available in Vol 136/4 of Global Anglican magazine: https://www.churchsociety.org/product/the-global-anglican-vol-136-4/In this episode, we explore everything from beach attire to Christians at a nudist beach, and even the portrayal of nudity in popular culture like Game of Thrones and Renaissance art.Join us as we examine the role of nakedness and modesty in Biblical teachings, uncovering the connections between the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, and the shame associated with nudity. We'll also consider the historical and cultural significance of garments, from coronations to glorification, and how they relate to our spiritual experiences.But it's not just about history - we'll also dive into the various perceptions of nudity and modesty across different cultures, discussing how men and women approach these topics in public settings. As we navigate the world of Christian ethics, we'll explore the implications of categories like 'clean' and 'unclean,' and how they relate to our understanding of modesty.Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words with 9Marks' Jonathan Leeman (@JonathanLeeman) about church membership and discipline. What are the pros/cons? Is it really necessary? And what actually happened when Leeman and Cooper shared a New Jersey hotel room that one time? (PS Sorry for Cooper's sound quality on this episode. He's been warned, and we have no further comments to make at this time.)Links:- Jonathan's book on membership: https://www.amazon.com/Church-Membership-Represents-Building-Churches/dp/1433532379/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1684263039&sr=8-4- Jonathan's book on church discipline: https://www.amazon.com/Church-Discipline-Protects-Building-Churches/dp/1433532336/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1684263039&sr=8-2- Desiring God article by Marshall Segal: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/why-god-made-you-for-membershipSupport the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have extended words on a subject they are ideally placed to discuss: the midlife crisis. Have people always had them? How common are they? What are the causes? And is there a way of mitigating against them? LinksMidlife crisis is more than a theoryRoyal Society lectureJordan Peterson on the midlife crisisMidlife in the 2020s: Opportunities and ChallengesSupport the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper is unwell, so Cary has words with pastor Andrew Fellows (formerly of L'Abri Fellowship) to talk about the significance of Francis Schaeffer. Also: what's gone wrong with the Church?Andrew's book: https://www.amazon.com/Smuggling-Jesus-Back-into-Church/dp/1789743435Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words about the so-called "Winsomeness Wars". How should Christians speak to others, especially those who disagree with us? Is there a one-size fits all approach? And might "winsomeness" actually lose some?Background Articleshttps://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/november/moore-winsomeness-hostile-culture-fruit-spirit.htmlhttps://americanreformer.org/2023/01/the-winsomeness-wars/https://americanreformer.org/2022/10/sheep-wolves-and-fools/https://aaronrenn.substack.com/p/newsletter-3-the-history-of-the-churchhttps://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/be-winsome-and-persuasive/Background Podcastshttps://paulvanderklay.podbean.com/e/aaron-renn-s-three-worlds-of-evangelicalism-and-the-winsome-wars/https://dougwils.com/podcasts/plodcast/258-evangelical-winsomeness-2.htmlSupport the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Was John Owen England's greatest theologian? The Puritan who preached to Parliament the day after the King of England was beheaded in 1649? Or is there another? And why is the English Civil War overlooked? Cooper and Cary Have Words with Rev Dr Lee Gatiss, Director of The Church Society.John Owen Daily Readings, edited by Lee Gatiss: https://amzn.to/42cXXNjThe Church Society: https://www.churchsociety.org/Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words about the loneliness epidemic. What's with all those "our staff deserve respect" notices you see everywhere? What's the connection between loneliness and totalitarianism? And what on earth is demography anyway?CDC Report on Teen Girls' Loneliness: https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-teen-girls-experiencing-record-004736597.htmlThe Politics of Loneliness is Totalitarian: https://theweek.com/politics/1002095/the-politics-of-loneliness-is-totalitarianPaul Blackham talks to Glen Scrivener about the role church can play: https://youtu.be/Z0Atc6GQr1oSupport the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Once saved always saved? Cooper and Cary have words about the perseverance of the saints.The Westminster Confession Of Faith on the Perseverance of the Saints.Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words with best-selling author of Gentle and Lowly, and one of their favourite Ortlunds (@daneortlund), to ask, "Is Hell Real?"*Is Hell Real: https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/new-releases/products/is-hell-realGentle and Lowly: https://amzn.to/3lkJxtuThe Admirable Conjunction of Diverse Excellencies in Christ Jesus (Sermon by Jonathan Edwards)(*other Ortlunds are available)Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

What is happiness? Is there a difference between happiness, joy and contentment - biblically speaking? What are the obstacles to happiness? Turn that frown upside down, as Cooper & Cary have words.Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words with Matthew Mason about the composer Ralph Vaughan Williams, and in the process get talking about truth, beauty, and the power of music. Business as usual then.Ralph Vaughan Williams Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX16DYGZ5ktAV?si=3f29d742a7e04a9cSupport the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words about their favourite things of 2022.Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper & Cary have words with Reagan Rose about productivity. Is the prospect of "reward in heaven" a godly motivation for productivity? How can we stay focused on what matters? And what was Cooper doing with a family bag of Wotsits on a darkened military base in the late 90s?Reagan's website: https://redeemingproductivity.comReagan's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/redeeming-productivity/id1476403107Reagan's book: https://redeemingproductivity.com/redeeming-productivity-book/Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Why does the Church refuse to unleash her most powerful weapon? Cooper and Cary have words about the public reading of Scripture.Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper & Cary have words with Sherri Lynn about her comedy The Bold & The Sanctified, in which two pastors - one black, one white - are forced to join congregations. You probably haven't noticed this, but race and racism is currently a bit of a third rail issue. Probably best not to touch it. And especially don't touch it with comedy. One of Sherri's friends said before the show launched, "Don't do it." So why did she? And what have been the results? BONUS: off the back of our episode with Aaron Renn (#138), we ask Sherri whether men and women should be friends. https://boldandsanctifiedplay.com9sb8XY337h7W2zj5aMl4Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words about THAT line in the Apostles' Creed. What exactly was Jesus doing between his death and resurrection?https://journal.rts.edu/article/he-descended-into-hell/Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

In the wake of the Matt Chandler Instagram DM story, Cooper and Cary Have Words with Aaron Renn, creator of the Masculinist. The word of the podcast is 'asymmetry'. Read more from Aaron here: https://aaronrenn.substack.com/https://aaronrenn.substack.com/p/newsletter-25-what-do-we-do-aboutThe Cooper & Cary Store is now open. Buy things you don't need to maintain a podcast you're not sure about. It's literally all win.Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words about whether or not certain gifts (ie healing, speaking in tongues, words of prophecy) are given to believers today. It all starts with a slightly spooky story from Barry...Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

Cooper and Cary have words with Rhys Laverty about Classical Christian Education. Why is it becoming more and more popular? Why would we want to teach our kids Latin? And why are Christians taking an educational lead from - of all people -  THE ROMANS?Reforming Classical Education by Rhys Laverty et alRhys' Ad Fontes PodcastAssociation of Classical Christian SchoolsThe Lost Tools Of Learning by Dorothy Sayers (free online article)Recovering The Lost Tools Of Learning by Douglas WilsonThe Well-Trained Mind by Susan Wise BauerMetamorphoses by OvidThe Odyssey (translated by Robert Fagles, read by Ian McKellen)Dialogues by PlatoMythos by Stephen FryThe Abolition of Man by C S LewisThe Light Ages by Seb FalkSupport the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.

James and Barry have words about using a person's preferred pronouns. Is it the right, loving thing to use them? Our hosts do actually have words (well, mild disagreement - they are British) about whether it's ok to use a feminine name for someone who is biologically/genetically male. Support the showUnlock extended ad-free episodes, advance access, a huge episode archive, and bonus content, by subscribing to Cooper & Cary+ on Apple Podcasts. Or get everything on C&C+, together with video, and access to the exclusive C&C Discord server, by becoming a Patron.Encouragement and/or open derision should be addressed here: cooperandcary@gmail.comProduction and music by Cooper & Cary. Opening theme by Beyond Our Galaxy.