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Author: Patrick Oliver Jones

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Weekly conversations and insights on the fine line between setback and success in the performing arts. Fellow creatives share their own journey as artists and the lessons learned along the way with host Patrick Oliver Jones, an actor who knows first-hand the ups and downs we all face.
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After our conversation on the previous episode, Roberto answers the Final Five. He shares his love of CBS Sunday Morning and his dream of playing the Baker in INTO THE WOODS as well as that the time he forgot to press the record button. Do you have other ideas for Final Five questions? Let me know at contact.winmipodcast.com.      ----------      The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode: ko-fi.com/winmipodcast For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: instagram.com/winmipodcast/    Do you have questions or stories of your own? Share them with me: contact.winmipodcast.com
Season 4 Survey: https://winmipodcast.typeform.com/to/SdODaMU7 I first got to know Roberto when putting together the Season Three opener with Caroline Bowman. He had taken beautiful photos of her as she was preparing for the National Tour of Disney's FROZEN. I wanted him to come on the show to share his experiences and insights on making the best headshots possible. So get ready to take some notes.  Little did I know, though, the backstory and struggles he's been through. From a family unwilling to accept his sexuality and being homeless in NYC to the "casual racism" he has encountered in the industry. Roberto really opens up and shares an enlightening story that can both inspire our craft and push us to change the underlying biases still present in theater.  Follow Roberto: Instagram / Twitter / YouTube / Website  Follow WINMI: Instagram / Twitter / Website / Medium  —————  WINMI is a Top 20 Podcast thanks to you!  https://blog.feedspot.com/theatre_podcasts/  Reach out with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com    The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode: https://ko-fi.com/winmipodcast   
After our conversation on the previous episode, Cris answers the Final Five. He shares why he'd love to teach and his dream to be in CATS as well as what he learned from Tyler Perry. Do you have other ideas for Final Five questions? Let me know at contact.winmipodcast.com.      ----------      The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode. For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: instagram.com/winmipodcast/   
In this longer episode than normal, I am honored and grateful to have this enormously gifted artist on the show. Cris Eli Blak may only be a senior in college, but he has wisdom far beyond his years to share with all of us. From thoughts on the current racial tensions gripping this country to how theater can be a voice in the midst of it, Cris shares from the heart and from his art. He opens up about his own challenges and struggles as a writer, how growing up without a father affected him, and the type of writing and storytelling he wants to give the world. This is a touching and moving episode that will leave you with a better understanding of where we are and a brighter hope for where we can ultimately go. Topics covered in this episode:  - Do The Right Thing 30 Years Later   - Spike Lee on HuffPost Live   - The Brother's Survivor short film   - The World Changes Through Art   - Our Duty to Confront Racism in Theater Industry   - "Like Father, Like Son" on the Logue Lounge   - All-White Production Of HAIRSPRAY In Texas Raises Eyebrows   - Should There Be All-White Productions of HAIRSPRAY?    Follow Cris: Instagram / YouTube / Medium  Follow WINMI: Instagram / Twitter / Website / Medium —————  WINMI is a Top 20 Podcast thanks to you! https://blog.feedspot.com/theatre_podcasts/  Reach out with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com    The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode. 
The third and final look at the Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater with Michael McBride, a 10-year veteran with the company. Through this organization he not only gained skills and experience in collaborating with some of the best dancers and choreographers on the planet, but he also found the love of his life, Samuel Lee Roberts, a fellow dancer in the company. But it wasn't all smooth sailing for Michael. He's had some hard lessons to learn along the way and he talks about some of those, especially in the Final Five questions, also included in this episode. Topics and People Mentioned: Alvin Ailey's REVELATIONS - https://www.alvinailey.org/performances/repertory/revelations  Michael's engagement to Samuel - https://www.dancemagazine.com/when-two-ailey-dancers-get-engaged-of-course-there-are-professional-ba-2404644366.html  Michael and Samuel dancing together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aD9fGhW7xI  Hope Boykin Teaches Revelations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QefuHRw5948  Matthew Rushing - https://www.dance-enthusiast.com/features/video/view/Matthew-Rushing-and-Hope-Boykin-Rushings-Surprise-Role-in-LIFT-by-Aszure-Barton-/#.XumIcmpKgWo  Follow Michael: Instagram / Website —————  WINMI is a Top 20 Podcast thanks to you!  https://blog.feedspot.com/theatre_podcasts/  More episodes: listen.winmipodcast.com Join the WINMI community: Instagram or Twitter (@winmipodcast)  Reach out with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com    The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.   Music in this episode: "Ah Been 'Buked" by Hall Johnson. The Chamber Singers of Haverford and Bryn Mawr Colleges, Thomas Lloyd, director. "Kitty In The Window" by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. Based on a work at http://soundofpicture.com
Samantha Figgins is currently in her sixth season with the Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater. But what many people don't know is that this gorgeous dancer suffers from single-sided deafness. As a baby, Figgins contracted spinal meningitis, which caused her to lose all hearing in her right ear. She never gave up on her dance dreams, though, and fought her way through uncomfortable situations, never missing an opportunity to learn and grow. In this episode, she shares her love of dance, her passion in telling stories, and the discipline that makes it all possible. Listen to the previous episode all about Alvin Ailey. Dance Spirit cover in 2013  Watch Samantha dance in Revelations on TED: https://youtu.be/0f4wtD8eXNk  Follow her: Instagram / Twitter  —————  WINMI is a Top 20 Podcast thanks to you! https://blog.feedspot.com/theatre_podcasts/  More episodes: listen.winmipodcast.com Join the WINMI community: Instagram or Twitter (@winmipodcast)  Reach out with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com    The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode. ----------- "I Been 'Buked" and "Fix Me, Jesus" arranged by Hall Johnson. G. Schirmer, Inc., publisher and copyright owner. "Kitty In The Window" by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. Based on a work at http://soundofpicture.com
When it comes to the performing arts and certainly to dance, there are few people more worthy of admiration, of inspiration and imitation than Alvin Ailey. He was both uniquely gifted and qualified to tell the African-American experience which he lived and saw and reacted to through the art of dance.  If you follow me or the podcast on social media, you know that I’m a white man who also grew up in the South. I was certainly witness to and heard tinges of racism growing up, but was fortunately sheltered for the most part from those who held such a deep-seeded hatred. A bigotry that Ailey knew first-hand. Growing up in the South, he had his own struggles with self-esteem due to the acts of racial violence so prevalent in those formative years.   Within the theater, we have playwrights and lyricists who can put difficult feelings and hard lessons into words. They show us parts of humanity that can be both glorious and despicable. But theater is not with us right now, the stage is silent. And so in the last few days, in light of the events that led to George Floyd‘s death and its aftermath, I have looked for and listened to past voices for both understanding and action, comfort and courage.    One of my most treasured experiences and memories of being here in New York City is getting to watch the Alvin Ailey American dance concerts each winter and summer. They consist of powerful and moving performances by amazingly talented dancers. And so it was only natural that my thoughts would go to the stories and emotions told through the pieces that Alvin Ailey choreographed himself, namely his iconic Revelations, which was inspired by his involvement within the Southern Black church. In fact, all of his work came forth from the people and places and experiences of his life.    People and choreography discussed:  Alvin Ailey - https://www.alvinailey.org/alvin-ailey-american-dance-theater/alvin-ailey Judith Jamison - https://www.alvinailey.org/alvin-ailey-american-dance-theater/judith-jamison Robert Battle - https://www.alvinailey.org/alvin-ailey-american-dance-theater/robert-battle Lester Horton - https://www.kennedy-center.org/artists/h/ho-hz/lester-horton/  Cry - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuTJSbWm2QY  Masekela Langage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxsWWYBxKE0  Revelations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPJ4kt3a64  Videos and interviews used in the making of this episode: Alvin Ailey American Dance Theatre at 50 A Golden Anniversary Celebration  Big Lives: Profiles of LGBT African Americans - Alvin Ailey  Alvin Ailey Celebrates 50th - CBS Judith Jamison: Early Days with Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater Alvin Ailey and the Importance of the Arts - The New Yorker Alvin Ailey connects cultures through dance Alvin Ailey speaking at UCLA  - 3/9/1983 Revelations from a lifetime of dance - TEDtalk  ------------ The time and expense needed to compile and edit this epiosde was at times challenging but ultimately rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.  For further insights on the topics covered in this episode follow on Twitter @winmipodcast: https://twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips follow on Instagram @winmipodcast: https://www.instagram.com/winmipodcast/    Do you have questions or stories of your own? Share them with me: contact.winmipodcast.com    Music used in this episode: "Reverie (small theme)" by _ghost. 2010 - Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) "Smoldering" by Kai Engel is licensed under a Attribution License. "Jazz Brunch" by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Attribution 3.0 International License. Based on a work at incompetech.com. "Barbara" by U.S. Army Blues is licensed under a Public Domain Mark 1.0 License. "Something About John Coltrane" by Alice Coltrane. Licensed to YouTube by UMG (on behalf of Verve); BMI - Broadcast Music Inc., UNIAO BRASILEIRA DE EDITORAS DE MUSICA - UBEM, UMPI, LatinAutor, Jowcol Music (Publishing), LatinAutor - UMPG, and 8 Music Rights Societies.
At the end of our previous insightful conversation, Douglas Sills gave his answers to the Final Five questions. He shares a story of his mentor who recently passed away as well as his interests finance and veterinarian medicine. After his answer to best advice, I kept the recording going and it opened into a deeper conversation about happiness and feeling (un)motivated. Do you have other ideas for Final Five questions? Let me know at contact.winmipodast.com.      ----------      The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode. For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: https://twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: https://www.instagram.com/winmipodcast/   
His iconic Broadway debut in SCARLET PIMPERNEL may have made Douglas Sills a Broadway star, but his head has never been in the clouds. In today's episode, he has his feet firmly on the ground and shares how he left the business (twice) and what brought him back. His insights are a seasoned look not only at his career but at the kind of person he wants to be. From understanding luck's role in his career to realizing that having a life means so much more than making a living, Douglas is both confident and vulnerable in this honest look at what "making it" really means. That Tony Awards performance that inspired me and made me a fan of Douglas Sills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpAXrY2rf_s&list=RDgpAXrY2rf_s&start_radio=1 Follow Doug: Twitter / Instagram Follow WINMI: Instagram / Twitter ————— May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.  Reach out to me with comments or questions: https://contact.winmipodcast.com  WINMI is supported through kind donations of listeners like you: https://ko-fi.com/winmipodcast  Music in this episode: "Little Idea" by Scott Holmes is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial License.
After our conversation on the previous episode, Mykal and Hannah answer the Final Five questions. They share stories of the individuals who have inspired them as artists as well as their interests in education and geology. They finish with why it's so important to be on time and the proper place for performance in an artist's life. Do you have other ideas for Final Five questions? Let me know at contact.winmipodast.com.      ----------      The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode. For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: https://twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: https://www.instagram.com/winmipodcast/   
Hannah Elless and Mykal Kilgore (and myself) first met doing a reading of a new musical called THE STAR CHILD. They have each gone on to do three Broadway shows, but they still love that new-car smell of a fresh, unknown piece of theater. In today's conversation they explain why new works are so important, how their big families taught them to collaborate, and what success means to them and how they are still striving for it. Plus, they talk about the dream of a Broadway debut versus the reality of getting one.  - Listen to my episode with Jenny Stafford, book writer for STAR CHILD.  - Hear a song from Mykal's A MAN BORN BLACK.  - Watch Hannah's multi-instrument talents on display in "Ashville" from BRIGHT STAR.  Follow on Instagram: Hannah Elless / Mykal Kilgore  ————— May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.  Reach out to me with comments or questions: https://contact.winmipodcast.com  Support WINMI through your kind donations: https://ko-fi.com/winmipodcast    Music used in this episode from Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. "Sidecar" • "Kitty in a Window" • "Smooth Actor"
Welcome back to my talk with Andrew Lippa as he answers the Final Five questions. This is a bonus episode to the conversation we had previously, covering topics we didn't get to last time. From political aspirations to advice he gives to aspiring artists, this is a deeper dive into a talented composer and performer. Do you have other ideas for Final Five questions? Let me know at contact.winmipodcast.com.      ----------      May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.  For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: https://twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: https://www.instagram.com/winmipodcast/  WINMI is supported through kind donations of listeners like you: https://ko-fi.com/winmipodcast   
From his first intimate musical, john and jen, to his bigger productions on and off Broadway, Andrew Lippa has been a prolific and award-winning writer. He joins the podcast to talk about his growth along that sometimes bumpy path and what it means to bring a bit of himself into his compositions and lyrics. He shares the disappoints he felt with The Wild Party and Big Fish, the lessons he learned from The Addams Family, and the personal journey he took in becoming Harvey Milk. Learn more about Andrew... Website: https://andrewlippa.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/lippaofficial Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lippaandrew/ His recent shows: The Man in the Ceiling, I Am Harvey Milk, Unbreakable  —————  May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.  For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: instagram.com/winmipodcast/  Reach out to me with comments or questions: contact.winmipodcast.com  WINMI is supported through kind donations of listeners like you: ko-fi.com/winmipodcast 
FINAL FIVE: Hal Luftig

FINAL FIVE: Hal Luftig

2020-05-0810:13

After our conversation on the previous episode, Hal Luftig answers the Final Five. He shares his love of teaching and his dream to work with Audra McDonald as well as what he learned from famed Broadway producer Emanuel "Manny" Azenberg. Do you have other ideas for Final Five questions? Let me know at contact.winmipodcast.com. ----------  May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.  For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: https://twitter.com/winmipodcast/  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: https://www.instagram.com/winmipodcast/  WINMI is supported through kind donations of listeners like you: https://ko-fi.com/winmipodcast 
Welcome to a month-long look at previous Broadway seasons...the nominations, the wins, and the losses.  With four Tony Awards to his name, including two as lead producer, and two Olivier Awards, also as lead producer, Hal Luftig knows and thing or two about theatrical success. But he also knows the pitfalls that come and how not every show finds an audience or makes a lot of money.  Today, he shares those insights and more from the heights of success with KINKY BOOTS to his disappointment with the early closing of CHILDREN OF A LESSER GOD. He opens up about the lessons he's learned and what keeps him going.  Website: https://www.halluftig.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rialtoguy  Twitter: https://twitter.com/halluftig  Previous guests who have appeared in his productions:  J. Harrison Ghee - KINKY BOOTS Caroline Bowman - KINKY BOOTS and EVITA James Monroe Števko - FIDDLER IN YIDDISH John McGinty - CHILDREN OF A LESSER GOD  ----------  Join the WINMI community by following on Instagram or Twitter (@winmipodcast) as well as reaching out to Patrick with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com   The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.
Welcome to another FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode with Alina Alcántara! After our last conversation about staying motivated and the joy she found in performing, Alina sat down to answer five questions on topics and insights not covered in the previous episode. She also mentioned mutual friend and fellow artist Juan Cantu as someone who inspires her both personally and professionally. If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson or trait that took you awhile to learn or one that you are still learning to this day? What’s the best advice you’ve received? ————— The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.   Do you have questions or stories of your own? Share them with me: contact.winmipodcast.com
Former flight attendant Alina Alcántara is a New York native of Dominican heritage, who has lived in Florida for most of her life. And in this episode she shares the rocky road to finding her true calling in life as an actor and singer. But even with this love and passion for performing she has her bad days of feeling inferior and unmotivated. So what keeps her going? Her story will inspire you and put a smile in your heart. Follow her online and social media:twitter.com/BroadwayBaby73 instagram.com/broadwaybaby1973 https://alinaalcantara.com/ Listen to her on Diagon Alley - https://youtu.be/fwuk_UxndlY ----------  May this podcast be a resource for you as you discover more ways to pursue a career in this industry and sustain it through the many ups and downs that follow.  For further insights on the topics covered in this episode: https://twitter.com/winmipodcast  Quotes and unreleased audio clips: https://www.instagram.com/winmipodcast  Reach out to me with comments or questions: https://contact.winmipodcast.com  WINMI is supported through kind donations of listeners like you: https://ko-fi.com/winmipodcast  ----------  Music in this episode:"Elephants On Parade" and "Shines Through Trees" by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. (Based on work at http://soundofpicture.com) 
It's been a month-long break, so welcome back to the FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode! After our last conversation, Seán answers five final questions not covered in the previous episode. He talks about his bucket list Sondheim musical and reveals his comedic idol...  If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson or trait that took you awhile to learn or one that you are still learning to this day? What’s the best advice you’ve received?   ---------- The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode.   Do you have questions or stories of your own? Share them with the WINMI Community: contact.winmipodcast.com
Seán Cullen is a Canadian actor, voice artist and stand-up comedian, known for combining improvisation with mimicry and music. He joins me today to share his love of comedy and writing books for his children. But we also dive into the worries and frustrations that come from almost making it and how to bounce back from a canceled show or that inner voice saying we aren't good enough. Follow Seán on Twitter - https://twitter.com/mrseancullen  Listen to his podcast - http://www.theseanpod.com/  Watch some of his stand-up - https://youtu.be/jTG2Nfcwm6A  Corky and the Juice Pigs sing "Eskimo" - https://youtu.be/CwO33oUawM8  —————  Join the WINMI community by following on Instagram or Twitter (@winmipodcast) as well as reaching out to Patrick with any questions or comments: contact.winmipodcast.com   The time and expense needed to bring these guests and conversations to you each week is sometimes challenging but always rewarding. Please consider buying me a coffee to support this work that goes into each episode. —————  Music in this episode: "Whispers" by Hyson is licensed under a Attribution License. "Mr. Sunny Face" by Wayne Jones.
In the last episode, Rebecca Selkowe reminded us of the groundwork needed to organize and manage our money. Today, she brings it to the present with useful tips and insights we can use during times of crisis like COVID-19. For more on how The Actors Fund can help you (or ways you can donate to them) go to actorsfund.org and for a mental and artistic break from the daily grind go to starsinthehouse.com, hosted by Seth Rudetsky & James Wesley and benefiting The Actors Fund. ---------- Do you have specific questions? Anything you need? Reach out to me with anyway I can be of help: contact.winmipodcast.com Also, join the WINMI Community on Twitter and Instagram @winmipodcast.
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