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Inclusion and Disability Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad
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Welcome to The Inclusive Dad Podcast, where we explore all things inclusion and make it practical!!
Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron Devries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Christopher Bylone—founder of Innovation Unbiased and host of the I Know I Belong When podcast—for a powerful conversation about moving beyond inclusion to true belonging. Christopher shares his journey from agriculture to Chief Diversity Officer and explains why belonging is the outcome organizations should be solving for. He unpacks his “Belonging Formula,” challenges leaders to move past basic ADA compliance, and calls for purposeful unbiased behavior. From parental leave policies to accessibility gaps, this episode offers practical insights to help leaders build cultures where everyone knows they belong.Key Takeaways:Belonging Outcome – Inclusion, diversity, equity, accessibility, and justice must work together to create true belonging.Belonging Formula – Equity plus diversity times inclusion to the power of accessibility—divided by justice—creates measurable belonging.Policy Over Preference – Inclusive values must be embedded in policy, not left to individual managers.Beyond Compliance – ADA compliance is the floor, not the ceiling, for accessibility.Purposeful Unbias – Don’t just recognize bias—actively ensure it doesn’t harm others.Christopher Bylone’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is just one component of creating a culture where everybody knows that they belong.Christopher Bylone’s Bio:Christopher Bylone is the visionary leader and founder of Innovation Unbiased, a platform that blends data and storytelling to build cultures of belonging.As host of the podcast “I Know I Belong When…”, he amplifies bold voices and curious stories that explore identity, inclusion, and impact.A cancer survivor and lifelong advocate, Christopher has led global belonging strategies at Krispy Kreme and IFF, transforming workplace culture through inclusive policies, ERGs, and multimillion-dollar DE&I initiatives. His journey—from founding a Gay-Straight Alliance in college to shaping corporate ESG strategies—is rooted in resilience and authenticity.Living in the Charlotte Metro area, he is a proud father to Derek, a freshman at the Darla Moore School of Business, and Jacob, an eighth grader who plays football and lacrosse.Christopher leads with heart, strategy, and conviction—proving that belonging is not just a value, it is a movement.Connect with Christopher Bylone:Website: https://www.innovationunbiased.com/Podcast Website: https://www.iknowibelongwhen.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovation_unbiasedLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherbylone/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 81No - 98☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes physicist and educator Kenneth Mims, founder of Neurodiversity Education Research Center (NERC) and Science Prep Academy. Kenneth shares how his personal journey—including the loss of his brother—shaped his strength-based approach to supporting autistic and neurodivergent students. He challenges deficit-focused models of education and advocates for micro-schools, integrated therapeutic supports, and workforce readiness in STEM fields. From addressing outdated school discipline practices to building inclusive workplace cultures, Kenneth offers bold insights on belief, expectations, and empathy. This powerful conversation highlights what’s possible when we truly believe in every child’s potential.Key Takeaways:Belief Matters Most – When educators genuinely believe in a child’s potential, growth accelerates socially, emotionally, and academically.Strength-Based Model – Shifting from deficit thinking to recognizing strengths transforms outcomes for autistic learners.Micro-School Innovation – Small, supportive learning environments create safety, focus, and meaningful progress.Workforce Readiness Gap – Schools must better prepare neurodivergent students for workplace culture and expectations.Empathy Over Sympathy – True inclusion begins with understanding perspectives, not labeling limitations.Kenneth Mim’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is creating an environment that doesn't discriminate but has empathy.Kenneth Mim’s Bio:Kenneth Mims is a compassionate and experienced STEM educator with over twenty years of experience teaching robotics, computer programming, and physical science to a diverse range of learners. As the founder of the Neurodiversity Education Research Center (NERC), he has made significant strides in advocating for inclusive education for autistic students. An award-winning school creator, Kenneth is internationally recognized as an expert in educating autistic learners. He published his first book, "A Mother's Guide to Autism," and looks forward to connecting with parents across the nation. His vision is to impact the lives of autistic children by sharing his innovative education model and providing coaching to parents and teachers through community outreach and training.Connect with Kenneth Mims:Kenneth’s Website: https://kennethmimsii.wixsite.com/mysiteNERC Website: https://neurodiversitycenter.org/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NEURODIVERSITYCTRBook: https://a.co/d/02GtGpAJParent Course: https://www.skool.com/autism-parent-resource-group-8249/about?ref=3e4b245103144ae7a11c97525016a53cSPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 80No - 98☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron DeVries sits down with BE Alink, inventor, author, and founder of the Alinker walking bike, for a bold and thought-provoking conversation about inclusion, identity, and systems that were never built for everyone. BE challenges the idea of “fixing bodies” and instead invites us to rethink mobility, disability, and belonging. Together, they explore why inclusion often feeds exclusionary systems, how language shapes power, and what it looks like to create something so compelling that people want to belong. This episode is an honest call to reclaim creativity, dignity, and community.Key Takeaways:Cool Over Clinical - Designing mobility tools people want to use changes how society treats disability.Systems Exclude - Inclusion exists only because systems were built to leave people out.Language Matters - Words shape power—language can liberate or reinforce harm.Identity Stories - We’re more than labels; internalized stories shape worth and behavior.Build Something Better - Real change comes from creating new, magnetic communities—not fighting broken systems.BE Alink’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is something that is manufactured by a system that inherently excludes certain groups based on their fear.BE Alink’s Bio:BE Alink was born and raised in the Netherlands, is a trained woodworker and restoration architect who left NL, for what became 10 years of community reconstruction work in Kenya, The Sudan, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Kosovo of which 3.5 years in Afghanistan. BE is the founder and inventor of the Alinker walking bike, which she refers to as a vehicle of change. BE's reverse design practices / philosophy lead to the Alinker, which is not built for a "body-with-a-problem" but for who we are, active and engaged.BE is a gender bender, and has often been called crazy, all over the place, scattered. People told her to focus, and to comply, but BE does not fit in, just held true to her vision that the world needs something else, for and by us all, no one excluded. BE focuses on who we are, not what we have. BE has built her company into a movement of people showing up for each other. Years ago, she said: "I dream of a world where the dismissed people of today are our leaders of tomorrow”. BE employs Alinker users (otherwise unemployed), pays everybody living wage, The Alinker has certified BCorp status, is more than carbon neutral, and practically plastic free. The Alinker company is built to create access to health, by building access to mobility, community and real food. BE is also a musician, composer and frequency /neuroscience-based soundscape recording artist creating frequency and sound healing compositions. After years of studying and practicing in my own space, this is the first time I am publicly coming out in this capacity.Connect with BE Alink:Website: https://bealink.world/Music: https://bealink.bandcamp.com/Email: be@thealinker.comSPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:NoCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 79No - 98☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with ADHD and executive functioning coach Tiara Brumberg for a deeply human conversation about neurodiversity, inclusion, and grace. Tiara shares her personal journey—from occupational therapy to coaching, from supporting families to receiving her own ADHD diagnosis—and reframes inclusion as curiosity, support, and universal design. Together, they explore practical strategies that benefit all kids and adults, challenge harmful myths about laziness, and unpack the “messy middle” of ADHD. This episode is full of real-life examples, actionable insights, and reminders that inclusion starts with understanding how different brains work.Key Takeaways:Universal Design – Small supports like movement breaks and clear structure help everyone, not just people with ADHD.ADHD ≠ Laziness – Difficulty with tasks is about brain wiring, not motivation or character.Messy Middle – Growth often looks disorganized before it becomes sustainable and supportive.Clarity Matters – Clear expectations, deadlines, and communication reduce frustration for families and workplaces.Grace First – Inclusion begins when we lead with curiosity, compassion, and understanding instead of control.Tiara Brumberg’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is what happens when we stop asking kids to change who they are and we start looking at how we can make their environment more welcoming and supportive.Tiara Brumberg’s Bio:Tiara is the founder of The Middle Coaching, where she empowers parents, students, and adults to embrace their strengths and build sustainable routines. Recently diagnosed with combined type ADHD, she brings both professional expertise and personal insight to her work, blending creativity, empathy, and practical strategies to make executive functioning skills accessible. Through coaching, resources, and supportive conversations, Tiara helps her community navigate life with clarity, confidence, and joy.Connect with Tiara Brumberg:Website: https://www.themiddlecoaching.net/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tiara.brumberg/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tebrumberg/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themiddlecoaching/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:NoCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 79No - 97☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with certified caregiver coach and mom of a daughter with Down syndrome, Lynette Weldon. Together, they explore the often unseen realities of caregiving—from identity loss and financial strain to gratitude, boundaries, and self-compassion. Lynette shares her personal journey, practical strategies for avoiding burnout, and why caregivers must learn to ask for help without guilt. This honest and relatable conversation highlights how caregiving reshapes perspective, deepens empathy, and challenges us to create a more inclusive world—starting with how we care for ourselves and each other.Key Takeaways:Caregiver Identity - Caregiving often happens by necessity, not choice, and many parents don’t realize they are caregivers until burnout hits.Boundaries Matter - Every “yes” to others can be a “no” to yourself—setting boundaries protects energy and mental health.Power of Gratitude - Daily gratitude shifts mindset and emotional resilience, even when circumstances don’t change.Self-Compassion First - Negative self-talk and unrealistic expectations fuel burnout; kindness toward yourself is essential.Inclusive Awareness - Inclusion starts with noticing people, asking how they are, and offering simple human connection.Lynette Weldon’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is offering the same opportunities to everybody with the least amount of restriction and looking at them as individuals, not lumping them in one category.Lynette Weldon’s Bio:With over three decades of experience as a caregiver, Lynette has walked the challenging path of selflessness, dedication, and resilience. Her journey has been marked by both triumph and tragedy and has not only provided unwavering support to those in her care but has also faced the devastating loss of her husband to suicide. Through those trials, she intimately understood the depths of heartbreak, hardship, and the struggles that can consume one's life.However, she refused to let these challenges define her instead she chose to rise above them, determined to find her light and purpose amidst the darkness. Through her own healing process, she discovered the keys to overcoming the overwhelming stress, neglect of self-care, and lack of boundaries that often plague caregivers. It is this hard-won wisdom that she now shares with others, guiding them on their own path to reclaiming their lives and rediscovering their joy. She specializes in helping individuals manage stress, overcome overwhelm, prioritize self-care, set healthy boundaries, and cultivate a resilient mindset."I understand the unique challenges that caregivers face, and I am passionate about empowering them to find balance, purpose, and fulfillment in their lives."Through the work they do together, her clients learn to release guilt, reconnect with their authentic selves, find their purpose outside of their role as a caregiver and experience the joy and vitality they deserve.Connect with Lynette Weldon:Website: https://livingtruecoaching.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095075297153Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lynetteweldon3LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynette-weldon-the-caregiver-s-coach-193b65300/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:NoCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 79No - 96☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad Podcast, host Aaron sits down with Coach Yana, a children’s confidence coach using video games like Roblox and Minecraft to build social skills, confidence, and belonging. Together, they explore what true inclusion really means, why many kids feel pressure to “fit in,” and how safe, intentional spaces can help children thrive—especially neurodivergent kids. Coach Yana shares her personal journey, the power of gaming as a connection tool, and simple ways parents and caregivers can nurture confidence, emotional intelligence, and inclusion in everyday moments.Key Takeaways:Inclusion Is Belonging - Inclusion means feeling seen, safe, heard, and valued exactly as you are.Gaming With Purpose - Video games can be powerful tools for building confidence and social skills when guided intentionally.Be Who You Needed - Coach Yana’s work is rooted in becoming the adult she wished she had growing up.Presence Matters - Even short, focused moments of undivided attention can deeply impact a child’s confidence.Let Kids Lead - Allowing children to make decisions builds leadership, trust, and self-belief.Coach Yana’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is giving everyone the space to feel seen, safe, heard and welcomed.Coach Yana’s Bio:Coach Yana is a virtual confidence coach for children, celebrated for her imaginative and heart-centered approach that transforms how children see themselves. With the uplifting spirit of a former cheerleader, she creates a vibrant atmosphere where every child feels seen, encouraged and empowered to rise into their own leadership.Her vision is deeply rooted in community, service, and legacy. As a proud member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.and a former Girl Scout, Yana carries forward the values of sisterhood, leadership, and social impact in her work.Through WeUnik World, the natural hair care company she co-founded with her mother, she partners with Girl Scout councils and foster care agencies, providing workshops that nurture cultural pride, self-expression, and resilience in children and families.Through The Laptop Life Coach, she extends this mission online, offering interactive clubs, self- paced courses, and confidence- building resources that children can access anywhere. From playful storytelling adventures to challenges that stretch resilience, every experience is designed to meet children where they are— transforming learning into an adventure filled with joy, creativity, and empowerment.Her passion also flows into the Healed and Chilled Podcast, a soft space for cycle breakers,confidence seekers, and conscious caregivers. It’s where parents and guardians can ground themselves in clarity and calm, so they can model courage and confidence at home.Coach Yana doesn’t just teach confidence—she creates spaces where children can see it, hear it, feel it, and ultimately, live it.Connect with Coach Yana:Website: https://thelaptoplifecoach.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thelaptoplifecoachInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelaptoplifecoachPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healed-and-chilled/id1825381230SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 79No - 95☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes therapist, TEDx speaker, and disability advocate Hufsa Ahmad for a candid conversation about mental health, recovery, and what true inclusion requires. Hufsa shares her journey from engineer to therapist, living with bipolar disorder, ADHD, and chronic pain while challenging stigma in both professional and personal spaces. Together, they explore the power of humor in healing, the complexity of labels, and why empathy must replace judgment in inclusive care. Hufsa also reframes neurodivergence through resilience rather than victimhood, offering practical mindset shifts that help individuals and communities build a more compassionate, understanding world.Key Takeaways:Humor Heals - Laughter builds connection, makes complex concepts accessible, and helps regulate intense emotions during difficult conversations.Labels Matter - Labels can unlock services and community, but they can also limit how others perceive a person if used carelessly.Empathy Over Judgment - Inclusion grows when we seek understanding instead of making assumptions about others’ struggles.Recovery Spectrum - Substance use and mental health recovery are not one-size-fits-all; everyone’s path looks different.Resilience Mindset - Shifting from victimhood to survivorship empowers neurodivergent individuals to thrive despite imperfect systems.Hufsa Ahmad’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is being compassionate and considerate towards each other.Hufsa Ahmad’s Bio:Hufsa Ahmad, LCSW (pronounced huff-sa), is a licensed therapist, scientist, award-winning mental health advocate, behavioral health consultant, and two-time TEDx speaker. She is known for combining science, clinical practice, and stand-up comedy to help individuals reframe their struggles as pathways to resilience. Drawing from her personal experiences with serious mental illness, addiction, imposter syndrome, and late-diagnosed neurodivergence, Hufsa captivates audiences with her powerful story, unique insights, and authentic charm.Hufsa is committed to promoting equity and inclusion for all identities and experiences. This commitment includes anti-racism, cultural humility, disability inclusion, neurodiversity, mental health, addiction, trauma-informed care, accessibility, and affirmation of gender and LGBTQ+ identities.Connect with Hufsa Ahmad:Website: https://hufsaahmad.com/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:NoCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 78No - 95☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes pastor, attorney, and author Joe Infranco to explore a fascinating intersection of faith, neurodiversity, and communication. Joe shares the story behind his book Decoding Cody and how relationships with non-speaking autistic individuals reshaped his understanding of intelligence, dignity, and spiritual awareness. Together, they discuss the power of assuming competence, the emerging role of spelling and AAC in unlocking voices, and why inclusion begins with seeing every person as inherently valuable. This conversation challenges listeners to reconsider long-held assumptions and embrace a more expansive view of human connection, purpose, and belonging in our shared communities today.Key Takeaways:Assume Competence - When we presume intelligence and capability, we create opportunities for people to reveal who they truly are.Unlocking Voices - Tools like spelling boards and AAC are transforming communication for non-speaking individuals.Dignity First - Inclusion starts by recognizing every person as worthy of respect regardless of ability.Spiritual Curiosity - Unexpected insights from neurodivergent individuals invite deeper reflection on faith and human experience.Shift Perspectives - Moving beyond biases helps families, churches, and communities become more welcoming and supportive.Joe Infranco’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is our learning to see every human being we encounter as an image bearer of God and treating them that way. Every human being is entitled to dignity and respect.Joe Infranco’s Bio:Joseph P. Infranco serves as an associate pastor at Highlands Church in Scottsdale, Arizona, He is also an attorney who has been involved in hundreds of cases dealing with religious freedoms, including some concluded at the US Supreme Court.As an attorney, he has testified on religious freedom issues before the US Congress, the US Commission on Civil Rights, state and local legislative bodies, and has been a frequent lecturer at professional and bar association groups. Joe finished his legal career at Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), where he served 18 years as a senior attorney and Vice President of Alliance Coordination. While there, he oversaw and trained an attorney network that grew to 3,200 attorneys nationally at his departure in 2020. Joe's pastoral focus is teaching, apologetics and helping the Church to respond to cultural issues. He has been a frequent speaker at church and ministry conferences and still serves as an advisor to nonprofits. His pastoral role recently took him into the world of special needs ministry, where he is passionate to help serve affected families. He is the author of Decoding Cody, which tells about young men and women with "non-speaking autism" who see into the spiritual dimension. He and his wife, Valerie, reside in Scottsdale and have three grown children and five grandchildren.Connect with Joe Infranco:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pastorjoeinfranco/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:NoCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 78No - 94☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Jon Zweifler, autism dad and founder of Reed AI, to explore what inclusion really looks like when it’s built into everyday systems—not just good intentions. Jon shares his journey parenting a minimally verbal autistic son, unpacking how natural language, technology, and thoughtful design can unlock understanding without forcing people to mask or adapt unnaturally. Together, AAron and Jon talk about redefining togetherness, removing invisible barriers, and why inclusion must work even on hard days. This conversation is practical, honest, and deeply hopeful for families and educators alike.Key Takeaways:Systems Matter - Inclusion only works when it’s built into everyday systems, not treated as a feel-good sentiment.Natural Language Access - Using everyday language as a learning tool helps neurodivergent kids understand the world in real time.Together, Not Same - Being together doesn’t require doing the same activity—proximity and safety count.No More Masking - Parents and kids shouldn’t have to apologize or hide neurodivergence to belong.Purpose Over Product - Technology is most powerful when it serves human connection, not convenience.Jon Zweifler’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion needs to be baked into the existing systems that we all live in every day to enable comparable experiences for folks who experience the world differently.Jon Zweifler’s Bio:The father of a verbally challenged autistic son, Jonathan has a B.S. from the School of Speech (Northwestern), an M.S. in Communication Design (Pratt), and Executive Certifications (M.I.T) in Artificial Intelligence and Business Model Innovation. I never set out to build a company. I set out to solve a problem I just couldn’t ignore in our daily life.As a parent of a language-challenged child, I know what it feels like to watch your kid want to connect — to reach for words — but not have the right tools to bridge that gap.Every parent in our world knows that feeling — the mix of hope, heartbreak, and determination that comes with trying to help your child be understood.That’s where Reed came from. Reed isn’t just an app. It’s designed to be a bridge — one that helps kids understand the people and language in their world, across therapy, school, and home.It puts these kids back at the center of everyday conversations, instead of on the sidelines.So we sit at the intersection of literacy, and learning — making language acquisition more natural, sensory-rich, and human.I’ve seen what happens when the right tools meet the right kids. It’s not about screens or code — it’s about their confidence. The ability to understand, express, and belong in the world around them.Connect with Jon Zweifler:Website: https://meetreed.ai/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meet_reedLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/reed-ai/posts/?feedView=allSPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 78No - 93☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with executive coach and neurodiversity advocate Jane Singleton to explore what inclusion really looks like in everyday life. Jane reframes inclusion as a behavior rooted in curiosity rather than judgment and challenges listeners to ask better questions before making assumptions. Together, they unpack stigma, invisible disabilities, anxiety, and the importance of normalizing different ways of thinking, communicating, and regulating. From parenting and education to workplaces and leadership, this conversation offers practical insights on how empathy, flexibility, and honoring individual needs can help build environments where neurodivergent people truly belong.Key Takeaways:Curiosity First - Inclusion begins when we ask more questions than we make judgments about others’ behavior.Normalize Differences - Behaviors tied to neurodiversity need explanation and normalization, not silence or stigma.Kids Lead Inclusion - Children often model empathy and curiosity better than adults when differences are explained.Honor Non-Negotiables - Parents and caregivers must recognize and communicate their own emotional and sensory limits.Systems Matter - True inclusion requires brain-friendly systems, not just good intentions or labels.Jane Singleton’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is choosing curiosity over judgment and sharing information in ways that work for different minds.Jane Singleton’s Bio:Jane Singleton is an experienced educational leader, learning specialist, and ICF-certified executive coach with over 13 years of experience supporting individuals with diverse cognitive and emotional profiles. As the founder of Launchpad for Life, LLC, Jane helps individuals, teams and organizations navigate neurodiversity with purpose, so they develop sustainable habits that support personal and professional growth.She has designed and led programs across a wide range of diverse organizations, developing inclusive policies and systems that enhance collaboration and communication. Jane also delivers customized workshops on topics such as cognitive efficiency and time management, neuroinclusive communication strategies, universal design for learning, resilience and internal motivation, and clarity-driven decision-making models.Connect with Jane Singleton:Website: https://www.launchpadforlife.org/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61564866125675Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/launchpadforlife/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janesingleton/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:NoCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 77No - 93☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Scott Martin—husband, father, author, coach, teacher, and quad amputee—for a powerful conversation about resilience, identity, and inclusion. Scott shares his journey from collegiate athletics to sudden disability, navigating discrimination, depression, and rebuilding purpose through coaching, parenting, and storytelling. Together, they explore what true inclusion looks like, how assumptions limit opportunity, and why “being human” matters more than saying the right thing. Scott also dives into his book Play From Your Heart, blending sport, music, and life lessons that challenge us to rethink learning, leadership, and belonging.Key Takeaways:Redefined Inclusion - Inclusion means creating an equal playing field where opportunity exists and effort—not assumptions—determines outcomes.Identity Shift - Becoming disabled reshaped Scott’s understanding of privilege, discrimination, and how society responds to difference.Learning Through Experience - True growth happens when people are placed in environments where they can try, fail, and learn—without fear.Power of Perspective - Disability didn’t remove Scott’s competitive edge; it sharpened his awareness, resilience, and leadership.Be Human - Inclusion starts by dropping labels and simply showing up as yourself with curiosity and respect.Scott Martin’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is creating an equal playing field where opportunity exists.Scott Martin’s Bio:Scott Martin is an award-winning soccer coach, educator, and advocate for the disability community. Holding an advanced national coaching license, he has spent over 30 years coaching at the select youth, high school, and college levels, earning Coach of the Year honors four times and leading multiple teams to state championships. His expertise has connected him with top coaches in the U.S. and internationally.Recognized for his advocacy, Martin serves as a Global Advisor for Billion Strong, a worldwide disability organization. His journey has been featured in Chicken Soup for the Soul: The Power of Positive, and he is the author of Play From Your Heart (Library Tales Publishing), a memoir that chronicles his remarkable path of perseverance, reinvention, and the unwavering spirit that has guided him forward.Connect with Scott Martin:Website: https://librarytalespublishing.com/collections/scott-martinFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1494323024Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/librarytalespublishing/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-martin-lifesaroadtrip/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 77No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with author and creative thinker Angie Dixon to explore late autism diagnosis, autistic burnout, and what true inclusion really looks like. Angie shares how discovering she was autistic later in life reshaped her identity, creativity, and parenting, and why inclusion means making space before someone has to ask. Together, they discuss masking, multi-passionate creativity, inaccessible systems, and how workplaces and schools can better support neurodivergent people. This conversation is honest, practical, and deeply human—offering insight for parents, educators, leaders, and creatives who want inclusion to move beyond words into action.Key Takeaways:Late Diagnosis Clarity - Discovering autism later in life can bring relief, self-understanding, and connection rather than limitation.Proactive Inclusion - True inclusion means creating space before accommodations are requested.Autistic Burnout - Burnout often looks like depression or laziness, but is really a nervous system overload that requires rest.Creative Difference - Neurodivergent creativity often lives “outside the room,” not just outside the box.Unmasking Matters - Being fully yourself—especially as a parent—gives others permission to do the same.Angie Dixon’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is making space before somebody has to ask for it.Angie Dixon’s Bio:Angie Dixon is an autistic, multipassionate author and creator of The Leonardo Trait and the Unmasked Summit. She helps neurodivergent creatives unmask, beat burnout, and build lives that fit their brilliantly weird brains — with humor, honesty, and a touch of chaos.Connect with Angie Dixon:Website: https://profoundcreativity.com/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 76No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with educator, school principal, author, and autism advocate Jennifer Kaufman to explore inclusion through the lens of grandparenting. Jennifer shares how her professional expertise was deeply reshaped by becoming a grandmother to an autistic grandson. Together, they unpack misconceptions about autism, the importance of shifting expectations, and how grandparents can support families without overstepping. From creating welcoming home environments to offering unconditional acceptance, this conversation offers practical, heartfelt guidance for families, educators, and anyone committed to building more inclusive communities.Key Takeaways:Shift Expectations - Grandparents must let go of preconceived ideas and adapt to what their autistic grandchild truly needs.Unconditional Acceptance - Acceptance—not fixing or curing—is the foundation of meaningful inclusion.Listen First - Supporting parents starts with listening, not advising or correcting.Consistent Environments - Consistency between home, school, and grandparents’ homes helps autistic children thrive.Support, Not Control - Grandparents can advocate effectively by asking permission and respecting parental boundaries.Jennifer Kaufman’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is creating a world where people who are neurodiverse are part of the conversation and we find ways to create environments that are comfortable for them.Jennifer Kaufman’s Bio:My name is Jen Kaufman. As an educational leader and school principal at a specialized school for learners with autism in Paramus, NJ, where I've dedicated my career to supporting students on the spectrum and their families. I'm also proudly Ben's grandma—Ben has autism and is the light of my life. This unique dual perspective has given me invaluable insights that textbooks alone could never provide. Through my professional expertise and experience in autism education and the profound personal journey of being Sam's grandmother, I've discovered strategies and approaches that bridge understanding and create meaningful connections.My passion for helping children with special needs who learn differently has now led me to expand my reach beyond my immediate circle. I'm committed to sharing both my professional knowledge and heartfelt personal experiences to help other grandparents navigate their own journeys with their autistic grandchildren.By standing at this intersection of professional and personal understanding, I offer a unique perspective that resonates with both families and educators, transforming potential challenges into opportunities for deeper connection and joy.Connect with Jennifer Kaufman:Website: https://grandparentingonthespectrum.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GrandparentingontheSpectrumInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/grandparentingonthespectrum/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/genmkaufman/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 75No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Stephen Wagstaff to explore what it truly means to thrive where life finds you. After a life-altering spinal cord injury at 19, Stephen shares his journey through disability, faith, caregiving, marriage and purpose. Together, they unpack a powerful reframe of inclusion—from doing things for people with disabilities to doing things with them. Stephen also offers honest insight for caregivers facing burnout and introduces the mission behind SwagAbility, a nonprofit walking alongside people through life’s hardest seasons with hope, dignity and practical support.Key Takeaways:Doing With - Inclusion means working with people with disabilities, not just doing things for them, honoring their gifts and agency.Thriving vs Existing - Thriving begins when you find purpose and productivity, even in seasons of pain or limitation.Caregiver Burnout - Caregivers must ask for help, set boundaries, and seek neutral support before resentment takes root.Accepting Help - Learning to receive help can be as transformative as learning to give it.Unwasted Scars - Our hardest experiences can become platforms to serve and bring hope to others.Stephen Wagstaff’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is shifting from doing things "for" people with disabilities to doing things with "them".Stephen Wagstaff’s Bio:Stephen “Swags” Wagstaff is the founder and CEO of SwagAbility, a nonprofit helping people thrive through life’s toughest challenges—disability, caregiving, and trauma recovery. A C5 quadriplegic and former pastor, Stephen shares this mission alongside his wife Julie, a cancer survivor and full-time caregiver. Together, they bring faith, humor, and real-life experience to inspire others to find hope, purpose, and resilience—reminding us all that no matter where life finds you, you can still thrive.Connect with Stephen Wagstaff:Website: https://swagability.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SwagAbilityIncYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SwagAbilityliveLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-wagstaff-1a780a279/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 74No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with special education leader and advocate Jake Edgar to unpack what inclusion really looks like in practice. Drawing from nearly 15 years in self-contained classrooms, public schools, and residential behavioral settings, Jake shares why inclusion is a delicate balance—not too little support, not too much. Together, they explore the fears schools face around “getting it wrong,” why trying matters more than perfection, and how parents can confidently navigate the IEP process. This conversation offers practical wisdom, honest reflection, and clear encouragement for parents, educators, and advocates committed to doing inclusion better.Key Takeaways:Balanced Inclusion - Inclusion works best when students feel part of the group without being singled out by over- or under-support.Try First - Schools must be willing to try inclusion options instead of assuming failure before giving students a chance.IEP Understanding - Parents gain power by learning IEP language and asking questions—there are no dumb ones.Ongoing Communication - Strong parent–teacher relationships are built through year-round communication, not one annual meeting.Peers Matter - True inclusion is often driven by peers, not programs—belonging happens in everyday interactions.Jake Edgar’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is making sure everyone feels like they belong with the group by finding the right amount of support and being willing to try, mess up and learn.Jake Edgar’s Bio:Jake Edgar is a special education leader and advocate dedicated to helping children and adolescents with disabilities reach their fullest potential. With experience across self-contained classrooms, inclusive public school settings, and residential care, he brings a well-rounded perspective to supporting diverse learners.He serves as Director of Education at Springbrook Autism Behavioral Health, where he oversees educational programming for autistic students with behavioral and emotional needs, working closely with educators and clinical teams to support individualized growth. Jake is also the founder of the Carolina Special Education Advocacy Group, empowering families to navigate the IEP process and advocate confidently for their children. He hosts the All Abilities, No Filter podcast, amplifying real conversations around disability, inclusion, and education.Connect with Jake Edgar:Podcast Website: https://www.allabilitiesnofilter.com/Work Website: https://springbrookbehavioral.com/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 73No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Jacob Esser—dad, advocate, and founder of Dads of Down Syndrome—to explore what inclusion really looks like when it’s lived out daily. Jacob shares his powerful definition of inclusion as helping others realize they matter, reflects on his journey into the Down syndrome community through his son Levi, and opens up about the fear, love, and growth that come with an at-birth diagnosis. Together, they discuss the importance of assuming ability, creating spaces for vulnerable connection among dads, and why empowering fathers is critical to stronger families and more inclusive communities.Key Takeaways:Inclusion Is Belonging - Inclusion begins when people truly know they matter, regardless of ability or diagnosis.Assume Ability - Approaching others with respect starts by assuming competence instead of limitations.Dads Need Space - Fathers benefit deeply from spaces designed for vulnerability, honesty, and connection.Shared Experience Heals - Community forms quickly when people connect through lived, shared experiences.Empowered Dads Advocate - When dads are supported, they become stronger advocates for their children and families.Jacob Esser’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is helping others realize that they matter.Jacob Esser’s Bio:Founder and CEO of Dads of Down syndrome (DODs), a certified 501c3 nonprofit organization dedicated to empowering fathers and families navigating the Down syndrome journey while inspiring advocacy along the way!Our mission: Empower Dads, Inspire Advocacy. We empower dads through monthly events that range from roundtable discussions and guest speakers to large-scale events.Develop relationships with fathers, donors, advocates and everyone in between. The DODs mission is designed for fathers to build courage, connection, and community so they return empowered to impact their family systems and communities on a large scale.Connect with Jacob Esser:Website: https://dadsofdownsyndrome.org/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573932300113#Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dadsofdownsyndromeLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dads-of-down-syndrome/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dadsofdownsyndromeSPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 72No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Dr. David Palmer, educator, advocate, and father of six neurodivergent children, for a powerful conversation about inclusion, belonging, and nervous system regulation. Drawing from his journey as a parent, teacher, and adult diagnosed with ADHD, Dr. Palmer challenges traditional views of behavior, discipline, and compliance. Together, they explore the critical difference between defiance and dysregulation, why regulation must come before discipline, and how adults can “rewire their response” to support children more effectively. This episode offers practical, compassionate insights for parents, educators, and anyone committed to true inclusion.Key Takeaways:Inclusion vs Belonging - Inclusion isn’t just physical placement—it’s authentic belonging as an equal, valued member of the community.Defiance or Dysregulation - Most challenging behavior is a nervous system response, not willful defiance.Seen, Safe, Supported - Children thrive when they feel seen, safe, and supported—connection must come first.Rewire the Response - Adults must regulate themselves before they can help children regulate.Design for Everyone - What supports one child often benefits everyone when designed inclusively.Dr. Palmer’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is being a full-fledged, equal member of a community, where everyone belongs and has the same opportunities to participate.Dr. Palmers Bio:Dr. David A. Palmer is a neurodivergent educator, parent, and speaker on a mission to revolutionize how we understand and respond to kids in emotional distress. With over 30 years in education and a doctorate in special education, Dr. Palmer blends lived experience and neuroscience to challenge outdated discipline models and help adults shift from reaction to regulation.He’s the creator of the Rewire the Response™ framework—a six-step, trauma-informed roadmap that helps parents and educators move from chaos to calm by decoding what behavior is really communicating. His work empowers adults to become the calm, connected leaders their neurodivergent and trauma-impacted kids need most.Through his talks, podcast, and trainings, Dr. Palmer dismantles the “fix the kid” narrative and replaces it with something far more powerful: regulated adults, resilient kids, and relationships that actually heal.Connect with Dr. Palmer:Website: https://www.drdavidapalmer.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/david.palmer.585/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drdavidapalmerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdapalmer/TedX: https://youtu.be/IMSTuvNlEZU?si=2TvkILQ3cCttsuOKSubStack: https://drdavidapalmer.substack.com/SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 71No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Dr. James Perdue, known as the “Professor of Perseverance,” to talk about resilience, inclusion, and life after a spinal cord injury. James shares the life-altering moment that left him paralyzed, his journey through depression and acceptance, and how perseverance reshaped his purpose. Together, they explore what true inclusion looks like in sports, schools, and public spaces, why accessibility matters before someone asks for it, and how small actions—like recognition and respect—can make a big difference. This conversation is a powerful reminder that inclusion starts with seeing people as fully human.Key Takeaways:One More Play - One unexpected moment can change everything, but it doesn’t have to define the end of your story.Accessible First - If spaces aren’t accessible, people won’t show up—access must come before participation.Power of Perseverance - Progress isn’t about perfection, but choosing to keep moving forward despite limitations.Asking for Help - Learning to ask for help isn’t weakness—it’s wisdom and energy-saving survival.Everyday Inclusion - Inclusion starts with simple acts like acknowledging people and treating them as visible and valued.Dr. Perdue’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is making sure everyone who wants to participate has the opportunity to do so.Dr. Perdue’s Bio:James became a quadriplegic, dislocating three vertebrae in his neck, from playing a football game. The doctor said, "James, I'm sorry. You'll never walk again and you might be paralyzed from your neck down." Later, the doctor advised his family to place him in a nursing home; he would be too much of a burden for them to take care of.Dr. James Perdue, Professor of Perseverance, worked hard to achieve success as an award-winning educator and coaching a state championship team. As a motivational / inspirational speaker, best selling author, and life coach, James helps people get out of their past, step into their future, and persevere to their future.Connect with Dr. Perdue:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/james.perdueeddInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/professorofperseverance/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesperduespeaks/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProfessorofPerseverancePodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/professor-of-perseverance-podcast/id1518353436SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 70No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Tim Villegas, Director of Communications for the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education and founder of the Think Inclusive podcast. Tim shares his personal journey from special education teacher to national inclusion advocate and unpacks what inclusion really means beyond placement. Together, they explore why leadership buy-in is essential, how belonging reframes divisive conversations around DEI, and why community sustains inclusive change. This conversation offers practical insights, hope, and clear reminders that inclusive education is not only possible—it’s already happening in powerful ways across the country.Key Takeaways:Inclusion Mindset - Inclusion is not just where students are placed, but an intentional mindset paired with daily practice.Leadership Buy-In - Sustainable inclusion only happens when school and district leaders are fully committed.Belonging Matters - Belonging reframes inclusion as a human need, not a political concept.Systems Change - Segregation often persists because systems haven’t learned a better way—not because of ill intent.Community Support - Staying connected with like-minded advocates is essential to sustaining inclusive work.Tim Villegas’ definition of inclusion:Inclusion is being intentional about creating spaces where everyone belongs and actively removing barriers that prevent full participation.Tim Villegas’ Bio:Tim Villegas is an internationally recognized expert in inclusive education and has been the Director of Communications at MCIE since 2020. With over 16 years of experience as a special education teacher and program specialist, Tim, a self-described inclusionist, has been a strong advocate for learners with extensive support needs to be included in general education settings.He launched the Think Inclusive blog and podcast in 2012, producing over 200 episodes. Tim has also appeared on over 20 podcasts and presented at numerous conferences. In 2020, he founded the newsletter The Weeklyish and, in 2023, produced the audio documentary series Inclusion Stories.At MCIE, Tim leads the communications and marketing efforts, leveraging his extensive background to promote inclusive education.Connect with Tim Villegas:Website: https://mcie.org/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/timvillegas78Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealtimvegasLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timvillegas/Podcast: https://pod.link/583456652SPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:YesCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 69No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad
In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with neuroinclusion expert and therapist Pasha Marlowe for a powerful conversation about what true inclusion really looks like. Together, they unpack late-in-life neurodivergent discovery, challenge limiting societal norms, and explore how leaders can build workplaces that honor all minds and bodies. Pasha shares actionable insights on expanding the definition of neurodivergence, navigating opposing needs, and rethinking labels that often restrict rather than support. This heartfelt discussion also weaves in Aaron’s lived experiences parenting his daughter, offering a grounded reminder that inclusion is both deeply personal and always possible.Key Takeaways:Expanded Neurodivergence – Neurodivergence extends far beyond ADHD and autism, encompassing any way of thinking or functioning that diverges from societal norms.Needs Over Labels – Leaders should focus on people’s needs, not diagnoses, to create psychologically safe and inclusive environments.Opposing Needs Exist – Inclusion requires navigating conflicting sensory and accessibility needs with creativity, flexibility, and respect.Systems Must Shift – Language, testing, and assumptions often pathologize people unnecessarily, and these systems need to be challenged.Awareness Creates Change – Personal exposure often opens people’s eyes to barriers; staying curious and questioning norms is key to inclusion.Pasha Marlowe’s definition of inclusion:Inclusion is the active practice of welcoming and involving all minds and bodies, ensuring everyone is part of the conversations and decisions that impact them.Pasha Marlowe’s Bio:I believe people thrive when they feel safe, respected, and valued at work and home.My favorite work is exploring the intersections of neurodiversity, culture, & leadership.I am a therapist, coach, speaker, author, mother to 3 amazing humans, and an avid world traveler.With over 30 years of experience working with teams and clients with a diversity of marginalized identities, I highly value inclusive and affirming cultures.I believe real change happens through conversation, curiosity, and connection. When relationships are rooted in respect, people feel safe to show up fully at work and home.I’m a heart-led leader and self-proclaimed soft skills “softy,” known for blending evidence-based insight with storytelling, humor, and a deep understanding of relational intelligence.My work is grounded, human, and often delightfully outside the box.Connect with Pasha Marlowe:Website: https://pashamarlowe.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pasha.marloweInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/neuroqueercoach/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neuroqueercoachYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PashaMarloweSPAM© Count:Host:YesCurrent Guest:NoCumulative Guest Stats:Yes - 68No - 92☕ Buy me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedadSubscribe to Podcast Newsletter: https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdatesWant to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad























