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Equipping veterinarians with the skills and knowledge to become confident and engaging storytellers through integrative discussions with the people that inspire, encourage and challenge the veterinary profession. Hosted by Dr. Moriah McCauley.
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This week we're talking about the Value of Voice with Veterinary Innovation Podcast co-host, Shawn Wilkie.  Hosted by Shawn Wilkie and Dr. Ivan Zakharenkov, The Veterinary Innovation Podcast invites you into discussions with industry leaders and innovators about the challenges they're facing and how to address them. A self-proclaimed "serial entrepreneur," Shawn has been involved in the industry of veterinary technology long enough to understand the stressors of veterinarians and how technology can be developed to improve patient care while simultaneously easing the workload. It was from this knowledge of the profession that Talkatoo was developed. A voice dictation software, Talkatoo was designed to ease the workload of veterinarians by decreasing the amount of time it takes to complete medical records. In today's episode we discuss the value of voice. With the recent surge of popularity of podcasts it's clear that stories told with voice have an intrinsic value for people. You'll hear how we utilize this influence as podcast hosts and how it can be used within the veterinary profession. Never miss an upcoming episode by clicking the subscribe button on your favorite podcasting platform. --- Send in a voice message:
Time to add another skill to your storytelling skill set! This week I'm talking with Dr. Amy Thomson a residency trained dental surgeon about the tiny white patients in the mouths of dogs and cats. Yep, we're talking about teeth this week. Specifically how you can talk to clients about their dog or cats dental needs. The case Dr. Amy shares concerns a second opinion case she saw for a pup with purple teeth and the storytelling skills she used. We cover: How to convey what you see in your conscious dental exam to the client, especially during curbside service using verbal imagery and photos How to speak about your colleague who referred the patient How to to check that your clients understand the disease and treatment options You'll even get the added bonus of learning about vital pulp therapy in today's episode! Dr. Amy Thomson is a vibrant veterinarian who after spending time in general practice discovered her passion for dentistry and oral surgery and is currently ADVC residency trained. She is also a strong advocate for mental health within the profession and is eager about supporting the next generation of veterinarians. You can connect with her by following any of the links below. Instagram @toothy.thomson website COMING SOON! --- Send in a voice message:
This is an episode that has been months if not years in the making as I am unashamedly a huge nerd when it comes to James Herriot and his books. When I first heard they were remaking the tv show, All Creatures Great and Small I could hardly contain my excitement! Now, I know you can binge watch all of the episodes, but as I know all the stories inside out and backward I have chosen to wait to watch each episode as it's released on PBS Masterpiece each week to enjoy it in all it's glory. In this week's episode I'm giving you a glimpse to what a small animal veterinarian in 2021 thinks when watching this show/reading the books. I pull a great deal of 'behind the scenes' from the Alf Wight's biography James Herriot: A Memoir of My Father written by his son, Jim Wight.  I felt a new level of kinship after reading this biography as it uncovered many of the untold struggles Alf went through as a veterinarian, father and human. His life was not as warm and fluffy as his stories and tv make it out to be, but that's what makes it real and if you haven't read his biography I highly recommend you add it to your reading list for 2021. You'll hear what the veterinary profession was like when Alf graduated from Glasgow's vet school and how veterinary life and medicine of his day compare to now. I also talk about the new tv show and review the characters we all know and love. I have nothing but respect for the actors/actresses who are creating this remake of All Creatures Great and Small. While there are subtle nuances and changes to the overall stories they are holding true to their characters and bringing them to life in a way that reminds me why I love this profession so much. I hope you enjoy this episode as I had a great deal of fun creating it for you. Like and Subscribe to make sure you never miss an episode. --- Send in a voice message:
This week we are talking the founders of, Veterinarian and Attorney Dr. Lance Roasa and Veterinarian Dr. Drew Olson. A reinvented form of veterinarian education, provides RACE approved content for both veterinary students are professionals. Courses cover a wide range of topics such as medical, business, financial, legal and ethical issues presented using the Drip teaching methodology to maximize learning and time efficiency. Follow the links below to check out some of the RACE approved CE courses offered. The Art and Science of Negotiation Endocrine 411 Vetmed LIVE Series In today's episode we focus on the 'why' behind Drip.Vet and how the topic of financial wellbeing has personally affected both Drew and Lance in their life and educational experiences. You'll hear how these experiences ignited the passion they have for helping the next generation of veterinarians and why this is so much more than a money-management program. Dr. Drew Olson, DVM A 2012 Iowa State Veterinary College graduate, Dr. Drew Olson has practiced in small and large animal clinics, and has considerable experience in the veterinary compounding medicine industry.  An Omaha native, he is regarded as one of the nation’s leading veterinarians in compounding specialized veterinary medications. Be sure and ask Dr. Olson about his experience with retired circus elephants or his participation as a veterinary student in Frontier Vets, a documentary filmed in the remote region of Kruger Park in South Africa.  Drew resides in Omaha with his wife, Karin, and their daughter Olive.  They enjoy spending time with friends, family, and their rescue dog, Faith. Lance Roasa, DVM, MS, JD Dr. Lance Roasa is a 2008 graduate of Texas A&M where he was the first student to undertake a 4th year business-track, spending the majority of his clinical training in veterinary business and industry. In 2016 He completed a law degree from the University of Nebraska and his training was centered on the law of small business, taxation and the law of veterinary medicine. --- Send in a voice message:
Today's patient is a 1 year old, bouncy Labrador puppy whose owner is at the end of her leash because this poor pup is so itchy and it's your job as the new grad vet to solve this mystery. As the doctor you know what you need to do to work up this case, but how do you communicate your diagnostics and diagnosis to this frustrated client? In today's episode I chat with dermatology resident, Dr. Jeff Tinsley about the storytelling skills you need to not only help this patient and client today, but set up a lasting relationship as you navigate this pup's chronic condition. We discuss the 'why' behind your diagnostics and how to set reasonable goals and expectations for this client moving forward.  If you've ever wanted an easy to remember way of describing the skin barrier, Dr. Tinsley provides a great brick and mortar example you can use in daily practice. . Dr. Jeff Tinsley is a current dermatology resident who has a strong passion for connecting with his clients to provide outstanding medical care and advocating for his patients. You can connect with Dr. Tinsley on Instagram @dermdogtorjeff. . Never miss an episode of That Vet Life by joining the mailing list which can be found on the website --- Send in a voice message:
Dr. Gary Marshall is a small animal veterinarian and practice owner of Island Cats Veterinary Hospital. Along with his  position as an adjunct Professor for Washington State University's College of Veterinary Medicine, Dr. Marshall is deeply passionate about mentoring the next generation of veterinarians as he often has preceptor students shadowing at this clinic. Keeping with the times, Dr. Marshall took to social media to further provide support to vet students and new grads through his presence on Instagram @it.might.get.weird where he shares his experience as a practitioner. At the start of lockdown Dr. Marshall saw the need in the veterinary student community for CE and collected some of the greatest minds in feline medicine to present Cat Class! The recordings can be found at Today's episode comes from our recent Instagram Live Q&A session where I talked with Dr. Marshall about Mentorship and what you need to consider when looking for a mentor. Follow Dr. Melanie Bowden @vacationvet and listen to her TEDtalk here What Being a Veterinarian really takes Follow Dr. Kirsten Ronngren @vet_redefined --- Send in a voice message:
A few week's ago y'all asked some great questions about internships and residencies. Well, on today's episode I welcomed my friend Dr. Danny Sack to share his experience as an intern with AMC (Animal Medical Center) to answer all of your questions. We discuss topics like:  the application process for internships to residencies the structure of a rotating internship the differences between general practice and internships some of the decision factors you should consider if you are thinking about an internship Danny is a fantastic resource if you have further questions about internships and residencies and you can contact him on Instagram @dr.dannysack or at his website . --- Send in a voice message:



You all sent in some incredible questions last week and in this episode I take some time to answer a few of them. In this episode I answer questions about: studying in vet school how to learn information what the transition from vet student to new grad vet looks like how mentorship made all the difference in starting my new job There are so many other questions about finding jobs and mentors as well as questions about internships and residencies which there just wasn't enough time to cover in today's episode. As such you can be on the lookout in the coming weeks for episodes on those exact topics. Want to get involved in the real time conversation? Join the VETstagram community for the LIVE events on Instagram @thatvetlifepodcast Saturday at 7pm EST. --- Send in a voice message:
You asked so here is a full episode based on the conversations that have been developing on Instagram @thatvetlifepodcast. In the last week I put out two posts about resentment and inadequacy in the veterinary profession. The responses were astounding and the level of conversation that occurred in the contents was wonderful to see. Everyone was so edifying and I feel we got to share our thoughts about these two topics. In talking about Resentment in the profession I mostly focused on talking about the importance of good mentorship and I did this through the lens of this idea of +  - = mentorship. This was an idea I first heard about on The Colin and Samir Podcast. It's an idea about the types of mentors you should be looking for and how YOU should be acting as a mentor to those around you that I think we should be modeling more in the profession. The second idea I discuss in this episode is dealing with the feeling of inadequacy and our good ole nemesis 'imposter syndrome.' While no one is immune to it there is a purpose to it. I discuss my own recent experience with feeling inadequate and I explore some of the ways we can not only better identify this feeling of inadequacy but actually use it to become better veterinarians. I would love to hear your thoughts on this episode and continue the conversation. Leave your thoughts in the reviews on Itunes or comment on this post on Instagram or Facebook. --- Send in a voice message:
Last week on the pod I left you with the question of whether we can teach EMPATHY to medical professionals. The answer is a clear and resounding 'YES!' This week I walk you through one method of teaching that breaks it down into 7 topics and how they each impact how EMPATHY is portrayed in the client-doctor relationship. You can read through this study here:  A Tool to Enhance Nonverbal Communication Between Clinicians and Their Patients,  My favorite quote is from the second sentence of the abstract which states "Many articles do not address nonverbal interactions, instead focusing on “what to say” rather than “how to be.” This focus on verbal communication overlooks the essential role nonverbal signals play in the communication of emotions, which has significant effects on patient satisfaction, health outcomes, and malpractice claims." While it can be difficult to incorporate much of this into today's in-school veterinary education due to time constraints they are inextricably related to improved paitient outcomes and client satisfaction and should not be overlooked by any medical professional.  I would love to hear your thoughts on this article and today's episode. So head on over to Instagram @thatvetlifepodcast to contribute your thoughts or leave a voice message using the anchor app! If you found value in today's episode head over to Itunes to leave a review! It allows to me to keep producing episodes for you. --- Send in a voice message:
An Intro to EMPATHY

An Intro to EMPATHY


If you've ever visited a city or country you've probably found yourself people watching at some point. There is something entertaining about observing how people interact with their environment and the people around them. You could even say there is a different culture to their non-verbal communication with the facial expressions and body language they use. In today's episode I discuss non-verbal communication through the lens of vet med and what it means for our veterinary-client relationships. I explore what non-verbal communication means and how it is intrinsically tied to Emotional Intelligence and thus EMPATHY and how we can be using it to improve patient outcomes and client satisfaction. . Next week we'll explore the question of how EMPATHY can be taught to veterinary and human practitioners by diving into the research that has been conducted in this area. . Did you find value in today's episode? Show your support by leaving a review on itunes or following the podcast on Instagram @ThatVetLifePodcast. --- Send in a voice message:
Vet school has gone virtual and while hands on training has been minimized due to COVID, this isn't the only concern vet students have. Without in-person training their communication skills courses have also been put on the backburner leading to fear about when they start their careers in practice. In today's episode I chat with Dr. Monica Tarantino from Vets on the Rise, about this challenge and what it means for students as they transition into practice life in the next 7-8 months. We breakdown the issue and approach it from the ground up as we discuss ways that vet students can be practicing the foundation skills of storytelling even though they can't be in person. We also discuss one of the key factors you, as a veterinarian, need in the exam room and on the phone to establish trust with your client, EMPATHY. When you are able to communicate this essential ability patient outcomes and client satisfaction increase significantly. Check out Vets on the Rise Instagram @vetsontherise Website Check out Dr. Tarantino's podcast, Senior Dog Revolution --- Send in a voice message:
"The reason for doing it was two fold. One was to tell the story and hopefully inspire other people that they can do something, like what I'm doing, where they are living the way they really want to live... but also doing something to better the places they visit or better the places they live." Sailing, surfing and saving pups. Sounds like a pretty epic way to live as a veterinarian, right? While Dr. Sheridan has created her ideal form of practice living in and working out of her 37ft. sail boat named Chuffed it's not without it's fair share of stressors and struggles which she shares with the world through her YouTube channel Vet Tails' Sailing Chuffed and on her blog  In this week's episode I chat with Sheridan, aka Dr. Sheddy about the joys and challenges of working as a mobile veterinarian and sailor. We discuss what it looks like to operate a non-for profit to provide free medical care in a location where she doesn't look or sound like the locals in the communities she works with. I was inspired by Dr. Sheddy in how she spoke about the importance of developing trust and relationships with the local veterinary services in the communities. Her goal isn't to be the hero in these situations but to figure out how she can best empower and equip the individuals in the communities to care for themselves and their animals. If you want to follow along with Dr. Sheddy's adventures you can find her on:  Instagram  YouTube Vet Tails' Sailing Chuffed Blog --- Send in a voice message:
It's September! How are y'all doing out there? . This week on the podcast we are talking about COMMUNITY. More specifically what does community mean within the veterinary profession? We'll be taking a look at the VETstagram community we've developed over in Instagram and how it's actually revolutionizing the profession.  From providing a way to communicate with the wider human medical profession to creating an educational platform to provide mentorship, the VETstagram community is one cool group of humans, and it's all thanks to YOU!! How then do we continue to support the community so it continues to be a place of Inspiring, Encouraging and Challenging content? Well it starts with relationships. Listen to this week's episode to learn more. . Check out That Vet Life on Instagram @thatvetlifepodcast and Facebook @ThatVetLifePodcast --- Send in a voice message:
In this episode of QuaranTALK I am joined by Dr Gerardo Poli and Dr. Hubert Hiemstra from The Vet Vault podcast. These two are absolute powerhouses in the veterinary profession and their podcast is proof to this. You can learn more about their podcast here: Here we go behind the scenes and talk about the all important "why?" they started the podcast and how this question is key if you are looking to start your own podcast. Additionally Hubert shares the origin story of how he and Gerardo met and brought this podcast to life! Being the inspirations that they are, Hubert and Gerardo brought things full circle by talking about the important cross over that exists between being podcast hosts and great storytellers in the consult room. I learned so much from these two and I hope you enjoy today's episode of QuaranTALK: podcast edition. Follow The Vet Vault on Instagram @thevetvault Follow Gerardo on Instagram @drgerardopoli Follow Hubert on Instagram @huberthiemstra --- Send in a voice message:
Scrubbed In is back!!! Well at least it's back for one episode. It's been a while since Dani and I sat down in front of a microphone to talk about our veterinary experiences, but as we've both started working as REAL LIFE DOCTORS we figured now would be a the perfect opportunity for a REUNION episode of Scrubbed In. So enjoy as we share the nitty gritty about what life as new grad veterinarians has been like.  In this episode we talk about: The pros/cons of providing curbside service dealing with imposter syndrome the importance of mentorship Annnnddd there may be something about a giveaway hidden in there for you, the amazing podcast gang! --- Send in a voice message:
Hosted by two incredible veterinarians, Dr. Marci Kirk and Dr. Anna Reddish, My Veterinary Life is a podcast which draws together inspiring stories from across the veterinary profession. In the short year and a half since it's inception, they have produced over 100 episodes with guests from all areas of vet med! If you've ever wondered what you can do with a veterinary degree this podcast shows you the possibilities are endless! . I am so excited to welcome Marci and Anna to the microphone for this special "getting to know you" episode as we take you behind the scenes to how My Veterinary Life came to be. In this episode you'll hear: How Marci and Anna met What their inspiration and motivations were to start the podcast How they overcame the challenges they've faced in producing the podcast AND Marci reveals who their guest will be next week. . It was an absolute delight getting to know Marci and Anna through today's episode. I encourage you to check out their podcast My Veterinary Life on Apple Podcast, Google Play, Spotify and Spreaker. Contact Anna and Marci at . If you enjoyed today's episode let me know by leaving voice message through the anchor app or by leaving a review on Apple Podcast. You can also contact me through Instagram @thatvetlifepodcast or Facebook at That Vet Life Podcast --- Send in a voice message:
As a new graduate, one of the best and potentially terrifying things about practicing veterinary medicine is talking with clients. Throw in COVID and client communications gets kicked up a notch in that we now have to talk to clients entirely over the phone. Whether you are comfortable talking over the phone or not, this is a challenge. So much of what we do relies on building a relationship with our clients, but how are we supposed to do that when we can't even see them? . In today's episode I am excited to welcome my friend, Dr. Ashley Gray back to the microphone as we talk through the storytelling skills you can use to shine in your phone conversations with clients. You'll hear us talk about: How to set yourself up for success What you can say to increase the value of your exam How to earn your clients trust over the phone COVID or not, you will have to talk with clients over the phone for the rest of your career. But, it doesn't have to be something to dread.  What was your favorite tip from today's episode? Let us know by leaving a review on Itunes or by sending a message through Instagram or Facebook. Check out Ashely on Instagram @southernpetvet and @vetsontherise Check out Vets on the Rise --- Send in a voice message:
I'm pulling this one from the archives. Back in the early quarantine days I was able to virtually sit down with my friend Dr. Dave Nicol to go behind the scenes of his podcasts The Blundt Dissection and Freewheelin' ! Beyond being my favorite Scottish veterinary podcaster, Dave is an incredibly engaging storyteller and I always come away from recording sessions with him with a smile on my face. In this episode you'll hear us talk about what's going on in the podcast world as well as Dave talking through his 'how' and 'why' behind his storytelling methods for his podcasts.  You can check out Dave's podcasts on any podcasting platform.  Are you a vet student or a new grad? Check out Dave's book "So you're a what?" This book helped to settle quite a few of my own fears about starting work as a new grad and I can't recommend it enough! Follow Dave on Facebook Follow Dave on Instagram --- Send in a voice message:
Hey y'all! It's been a hot minute since I've recorded a solo episode for y'all. A year ago I was entering the stressful season of NAVLE prep, and OH MY WORD! That was a long arduous exam. But I came out the other side rather un-scathed thanks to the amount of prep work that I put during the months leading up to the exam. In today's episode I wanted to share some of what that work entailed by comparing it to one of my favorite things, running! Now being a year removed from when I first started studying I can say with 100% certainty that training for a long-distance race is very similar to prepping for the NAVLE and in this episode I go through the tips and tricks that I learned from my own long distance training and how to implement them in your own NAVLE prep. This is NOT a "how-to" podcast, but rather a list of "things to consider" as you enter this season of NAVLE prep. I hope this is helpful and provides some encouragement. Have a comment or a question? You can message me on Instagram and Facebook @thatvetlifepodcast . You can also send me a voice recording through the app. Listening on itunes? Leave a 5-star rating and a comment to help others find the podcast. --- Send in a voice message:
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Rachel Diamond

I really enjoy the personalities that are brought on the show, the different paths that lead to vet school and where you can end up after graduating. I'm going back to school to become a vet tech and immersing myself in shows like this is helping keep my motivation up!

Jul 3rd
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