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Lost And Sound is a podcast that goes on a journey to uncover how people come together through music, honing in on cultural hotspots Berlin, Kyiv and now, with the third season remote locations across the world. Over a mixture of interview, narrative and field recordings, writer and DJ Paul Hanford meets artists from a range of disciplines whose lives and loves draw on music, exploring themes such as the connection between music, cities and identity and now, in the third season, how music can play a role in our lives in the future: through dance, AI, slowness, collectivity and beyond. Season 1 was supported using public funding from the Arts Council Of England.Podcast music by E S O
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This week, J. Willgoose, Esq, from Public Service Broadcasting joins me. On the eve of the release of the band’s new LP, Bright Magic, an impressionistic journey through Berlin. So obviously we had to have a chat, right?Enigmatic, immersive, atmospheric, each time PBS emerge, they take on a subject and to me, its like falling into a deep book. From exploring the cold war space race so well that Jodie Whitaker would listen to their LP, The Race For Space, to help her get into the zone to play Doctor Who, to tackling the British coal industry. Now, J. has made an album about Berlin. It’s got Blixa Bargeld on it, singer EERA the ace German actress Nina Hoss and they recorded it at Hansa, where Bowie recorded Low. J. Turns out to be a charming self-depracating chap and he opens up about the loneliness of being in a new city, talks frankly about finding creative sparks and there’s even a bit of politics too on contemporary Britain.Title music by ESOThe new Public Service Broadcasting album, Bright Magic, is available from September 12th here.
DJ Fuckoff

DJ Fuckoff

2021-09-1445:57

This week, DJ Fuckoff took a break from whipping up storms across parties in Berlin to have a raw, cute and frank in person chat with me. Propulsively mixing techno with juke, psy-trance and warehouse rave so potent you can practically smell the heat from the generator, all with sexually empowering lyrics. We met up for a coffee in Neukölln where she opened up about battling incels, the lingering misogyny in club culture and how she nurtures her own energy. In her own words: “I like to make people get out of their comfort zone and I think its important to be pushing this instead of how society is telling women how they should act. I want to fucking break this, I want to push this, I want to test this and by doing what I do and seeing how people react, I see that that’s happening.”Title music by ESOCheck out DJ Fuckoff’s recent streams and releases through her Linktree here.If you’d like to help fund Lost and Sound for the price of a coffee, head on over to the show’s Ko-Fi crowdsouce. 
This week, I had a chat with Bob Stanley, musician, journalist, author, film producer and one third of the seminal Saint Etienne (the other two thirds being Sarah Cracknell and Pete Wiggs).  Saint Etienne’s tenth studio album, I’ve Been Trying To Tell You, is out this Friday and we spoke about how it questions nostalgia and asks were the ‘90s as optimistic as we now think of them as being? Their sampladelic debut Foxbase Alpha, up front classics like Only Love Will Break Your Heart and Join Our Club arrived like a melancholic dream years before the hazy electronic beats of hypnogogic pop became a thing. We spoke over a Transeuropean cuppa about the appeal of melancholy, ask if nostalgia is an illusion and  we even share a couple of Carry On style double entendres.Title music by ESOThe new Saint Etienne album, I’ve Been Trying To Tell You, is available from September 10th here.If you’d like to help fund Lost and Sound for the price of a coffee, head on over to the show’s Ko-Fi crowdsouce. 
Daniel Avery

Daniel Avery

2021-08-3101:02:47

This week, I spoke with the awesome Daniel Avery. Producer and DJ, author of the transcendetally good Drone Logic and the now equally amazing Together In Static LP. Coincidentally, although we’ve never met, we both grew up as indie noise kids in the same town and we chatted about this, about his early break as a Fabric resident, his friendship with Andrew Weatherall, how phones maybe aren’t the worst thing in clubs and getting lost, or rather, connecting with every person and every atom,  in the shared clubspace.Title music by ESOThe new Daniel Avery album, Together In static, is available now on Phantasy Sound, listen here.If you’d like to help fund Lost and Sound for the price of a coffee, head on over to the show’s Ko-Fi crowdsouce. 
Nite Jewel

Nite Jewel

2021-08-2455:49

This week, Ramona Gonzales, aka. Nite Jewel. Producer, singer, musicologist. We spoke about how her transcendentally good new album, No Sun, uses Moog and voice and is a break-up album, made largely whilst living on a friend's couch,  but is also part of an investigation into the agency of the female voice through history. As well as this, she reflects on her emergence through the LA scene during the MySpace era and the power of sound making off grid.Title music by ESOThe new Nite Jewel album, No Sun, is available from August 27th, listen here.If you’d like to help fund Lost and Sound for the price of a coffee, head on over to the show’s Ko-Fi crowdsource 
Liars

Liars

2021-08-1748:52

After a summer hiatus, we’re back. I spoke with Angus Andrew, who for over 20 years and now 10 albums, has been Liars. Always utterly fresh, idiosynchratic, intense and channelling something that seems to come from a realm beyond reinvention. We got into a chat about where this comes from, along the way taking in letting go of musical inhibitions, pcibocylin, drums, the Brooklyn scene, living remotely and way more.Title music by ESOLiars WebsiteThe new Liars album, The Apple Drops, is out now on Mute.If you’d like to donate to the production costs of making the show for the price of a coffee, head on over to the show’s Ko-Fi crowdsource 
This week, we zap over to Norway to catch a conversation with producer Stian Balducci and pianist Kjetil Jerve about collaboration, jazz’s origins as a dancing music and their desire to make an “Improvised music of our age”.  Their joint LP, Tokyo Tapes mixes drone, jazz and frequency-pushing sonics and I think its a stunning listen, and before you think that maybe these are some serious dudes, prepare for some surprising music confessions. Title music by ESO  
Luwten

Luwten

2021-06-1536:56

I had a conversation with Amsterdam-based producer, songwriter and musician Tessa Douwstra, who records under the name Luwten and finds a way of blending nu-soul tinged vocals and textured, experimental production. Luwten means ‘Place without wind’ in Dutch and I was interested to ask her about the way her music feels so intimately personal yet sonically expressive.Theme music by ESO
It’s been thirty years since they last met but I had a chat with A Guy Called Gerald and Trevor Miller. Miller’s cult novel Trip City caught the early acid house zeitigest and it was released with an EP made by Gerald, riding high at the time with what are now the classics Voodoo Ray and Pacific State. To celebrate the book’s re-release I caught up with the two for a frank, revealing and at times hilarious chat. It was pretty much two old pals catching up with me somewhere in the middle. Enjoy!Theme music by ESO
Jim O'Rourke

Jim O'Rourke

2021-06-0201:00:19

We’re back. Today, I spoke with Jim O’Rourke, iconocalstic producer, singer-songwriter, former Wilco and Sonic Youth collaborator, from his home half way up a mountain near Tokyo. The interview was originally recorded to talk about Jim’s film connection for the Lost and Sound - Playtronica collab podcast, Seeing Sound, but the conversation went into different realms and spilled out into this much, much longer version. Jim goes deep into working with Werner Herzog, his “just do it” mentality to the creative process, his Irish roots and speaking Japanese. It was such a pleasure for me to connect with a musician whose work I love so much and for him to turn out to be such an utterly humble, entertaining and damn well revealing human. Enjoy!Theme music by ESOJim O’Rourke’s BandcampYou can check out Seeing Sound here
Lou Hayter

Lou Hayter

2021-05-1843:08

Lou Hayter’s on the show today. We spoke about the things and influences that have led up to her Roxy’eque space-disco tinged solo LP Private Sunshine, as well the New Young Pony Club days in the post punk and party mid noughties. Lou is a certified Steely Dan fan and she very kindly gives some advice too, on finding your way into the Dan’s catalogue.Theme music by ESO
Roman Flügel

Roman Flügel

2021-05-1148:37

I met up with Roman Flügel, and boy did it feel good to be doing an in person interview again. And what a guest for that be to with. We did corona tests to be safe and met in his secret studio in Berlin, where he spoke about getting on board the early rave scene in Frankfurt, how electronic music is actual songwriting, the primal nature of dancing and of course, his fantastic new LP Eating Darkness, which evolves the lineage of deep, layered electronica he began with Happiness Is Happening . Roman is a true gentleman of sound. I was wondering if I’d wobble out or something, I'm so not used to being in a space and talking, but it felt like natural. 
Flora Yin-Wong

Flora Yin-Wong

2021-05-0454:53

Flora Yin-Wong: producer, DJ, writer, multi-disciplinarian spoke with me from London about the startling work of textural sound that is her debut LP, Holy Palm. Her debut book Liturgy, offers glimpses across travels, traditions and religions and we had a conversation about balancing different jobs (she was digital editor at Dazed for some time and also worked for Berlin's PAN label) as well as the commonalities between music and words, field recordings,  growing up with an opera singing Mum and her DJ mixes, most recent of which, a Resident Advisor one that is so utterly not afraid to leave the dance floor.Theme music by ESO
King Britt

King Britt

2021-04-2801:03:18

“Everyone whose listening… go off the grid!”Sage advice from this weeks guest on Lost and Sound - musical polymath King Britt, beaming in from San Diego. Right now, he’s taken a lifetime in DJing, producing, remixing and just being an all round presence in electronic music’s evolution into the realms of education. We had a chat about whitewashing in electronic music and the need to have access to the lesser documented history.Along the way we took in his roots from 5 year old King DJing at his Dad’s barber shop in Philly, the legendary Silk City in Philadelphia, forming partnerships with Josh Wink and Digable Planets, about his university course Blacktronica: Afrofuturism in Electronic Music - researching and honouring the people of colour, who've pioneered groundbreaking genres within the electronic music and even taking a trip into the future. His advice for future music? Go off the grid! What does that mean? You’ll have to listen to find out. Enjoy!If you’re listening the week this episode comes out and want to get involved, check out Blacktronika presents Sound for Humanity, a series of performances by six music creative artists, who were asked to think about sound, not only in its sonic definition (noun) but sound as an adjective (sound mind) and verb (sound the alarm), and how their choices will contribute in some way to humanity. Hit the link if you want to join.Title music by ESO
Gruff Rhys

Gruff Rhys

2021-04-2059:17

I spoke with Gruff Rhys, the always inventive artist, frontman of Super Fury Animals, sometomes half of Neon Neon, author, director and all round potential Welsh national treasure.Super Fury Animals, often considered the last great band on Creation Records gave  a sense of surreal adventure and a global musical pallet unusual for the Britpop era. They sung sometimes in Welsh, were politically conscious, at one point they had a tank, they mixed in techno, tropicalia and a million other sonic sources and of course there’s that song The Man Don’t Give A Fuck that sampled Steely Dan.Then at some point, Gruff set out with a solo and collaborative body of work that’s seen his music grow into films, collaborations, such as Neon Neon (with Boom Bip) a book and a rather novel use of power point presentations.We had a chat about language, about the Velvet Underground, about his film American Interior and about scoring a hit with a song that says “fuck” over 50 times. Enjoy!Title music by ESO
Mark Reeder

Mark Reeder

2021-04-1401:07:37

Fresh up in Lost and Sound today, legendary Brit in Berlin, Mark Reeder. Musician, record producer, label owner, the man who bought Joy Division to Berlin, who pioneered Trance with his MFS label, he’s been an outlier and creative force in the city from post-punk to now, whose story of arriving in Berlin over 40 years ago is vividly chronicled in the amazing doc B-Movie. This is a kind of redux. A really rather short version of this interview appeared in one of the very first episodes of Lost and Sound, the idea was always to share a much longer cut, because the story he tells, of arriving in Berlin in the 70s initially just to buy some records, and how he smuggled cassettes across the border into East Berlin, eventually setting up a punk gig under the noses of the Stasi, needs to be heard in full. Right now, he’s just released SUBVERSIV-DEKADENT, a double album featuring his own tracks, and remixes for the likes of New Order, Yello and Liars. But we recorded this conversation in a cafe on Zossener Strasse, a real cafe with real atmosphere in 2018 on the 1st of May, as the annual street celebrations were kicking off a kilometre away. Get ready to be transported back to the early 80s…MFS Label WebsiteMark ReederTitle music by ESO 
Hannah Holland

Hannah Holland

2021-04-0659:58

I had a chat with Hannah Holland - DJ, producer, composer, promoter, label boss. Hannah’s played a key role in London’s alternative and queer club scene since the mid-noughties, firstly as resident at the legendary night Trailer Trash and then with Batty Bass. She’s played everywhere from Panorama Bar to Fabric. Now, not only composing the music for Channel 4’s Adult Material, she’s debuted the krautrock tinged single Midnight Horizon from her new LP.I know Hannah a little bit from when I was living in east London, but havn’t spoken to her for years. We had a fun, open chat reflecting on the energy and freedom of the party scene in East London during the early naughties, her early experiences being super young and going to Goldie’s Metalheadz nights, building up to a 9 hour set at Panorama Bar and levelling up with new work.Title music by ESO
Chilly Gonzales

Chilly Gonzales

2021-03-2449:02

This week, I had a chat with Chilly Gonzales, the suave  all round musical polymath. Where do you start with Chilly? From early rap-infused works where he declared himself the President of the Berlin Underground, to his sublime Solo Piano albums, via collaborating with Daft Punk, Feist and Jarvis Cocker. Then there's running his own music school (The Gonzervtory) to holding the Guinness world record for the longest ever solo performance and of course writing a book about Enya. We got into a flow that took in everything from the hidden genius in Iggy Azalea’s Fancy to the connection between chamber music and bedroom producers. A charming and erudite gent to spend an hour with!Title music by ESO
Ella Zwietnig

Ella Zwietnig

2021-03-1647:42

I had a chat with Ella Zwietnig, film composer, sound designer, performer and songwriter. I’ve only recently discovered the Austrian artist’s music, and I was really captivated by the sonic soundworld she creates and the incredible things she does with vocal arrangements. We spoke about the shocking lack of female composers getting work in films, how making electronic music is a liberating power and lots more. It was a super fun chat to have and I hope you enjoy listening.www.ellazwietnig.comTitle Music by ESO
Ed Dowie

Ed Dowie

2021-03-0955:57

Fresh up on Lost And Sound, this week is a little different. It’s not just that Ed Dowie has made what is already being heralded is one of the album’s of the year, but that we have a shared history.  We’ve been friends for 25 years and in the late 90s our band Brothers In Sound were briefly indie-electronic darlings.  His new LP, The Obvious I is being released on Pete Paphides’ Needle Mythlogy label, and has fans from Lauren Lavern to The Quietus and feels like a choral, almost pastoral English cousin of Kraftwerk.  At some point, we kind of abandoned the interview format and got into a ramble about music, creativity, social activism in songwriting and bad Harrison Ford films that you secretly like.Ed Dowie’s musicTitle music by ESO
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