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Author: Kelly Nerdzilla Mendenhall and Debbie Jo Nelson

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A Non Mom Happy Hour is a podcast and community that brings women together for laughter and healing every Sunday night. This is a safe space to talk about trauma, survival, self-care, and the innate badassery that comes with being a woman. If you like to laugh, feel like you never quite fit into most lady groups because you're not a mom, or just need a break from momming for an hour, you should come to hang out! A Non Mom Happy Hour: Celebrating real ass human women, whether they use their baby box or not.
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This week’s special feature is, we think, a delightful and fun time with our own Kelly Nerdzilla Mendenhall and “The Other Kelly,” Kelly Reynolds of Boobies & Noobies. Kelly and Kelly both read the romance novel Calling It by Jen Doyle. After a quick interview, they do a deep dive into the book. Was it sexy? Worth reading? What did they love and hate about it? Here’s the thing — Non Mom Kelly did not expect to have fun reading this book, but she totally did. And there’s some pretty steamy scenes in it. If you’ve dismissed erotica or romance novels in the past, you may be pleasantly surprised by this book as well!We hope you enjoy listening as much as Kelly and Kelly enjoyed recording, and we want to thank Kelly Reynolds for allowing us to share this crossover!  p.s. Non Mom Kelly is recovering well from surgery and her at-home nurse sees her once a week and at-home physical therapist comes twice per week. The first two weeks were very hard but she got through. Yesterday she went up the stairway to the second floor for the first time since before surgery!  
As you know, the podcast is on a bit of a hiatus until the New Year because of Kelly’s big time neurosurgery. But we promised we would be posting some special episodes and collaborations.  First up is an episode of Women Conquer Business with Jen McFarland! Kelly appeared on the show to be interviewed about her book, the podcast, and her work in Network Marketing. What Kelly didn’t know at the time was that Jen is actually a HUGE fan of A Non Mom Happy Hour and had been following Nerdzilla Lives! (Kelly’s blog) and things. The two ladies had a lot of fun in the studio, and Kelly talks about the beginning of the show and the friendship that the Non Moms developed from several states away. Oh, and here’s a nugget of awesome from Jen! She developed a “How-To” guide for launching a podcast! We wish we’d have had this in the beginning.   
A special announcement: This week's episode is bittersweet as it will be our last, fresh episode until the New Year. Due to many variables, including Kelly's need to focus on healing after her next surgery, the podcast will be on hiatus.⁣⁣ It wasn’t an easy decision. But this next surgery is a doozy, and Kelly owes it to herself and every single fan we've told to put self-care first, to do just that.⁣⁣⁣⁣Kelly will be in the hospital from October 22 - 25 or 26. She'll be working with occupational therapists to teach her how to navigate her body and life without hurting herself.⁣⁣Kelly is currently working on book No. 2 which is on medical gaslighting, still writing her blog and newsletter, and generally trying to kick as much ass as she can from the #businesscouch. There’s a promo code of HAPPYHOUR at to receive a discount on Nerdzilla and Mechanerdzilla merch. If you want to keep up with Kelly while we are away, you should subscribe to her newsletter    On to this week's episode!: Kelly tells Debbie Jo about the amazing horseback librarians of Eastern Kentucky!  During The Great Depression, The Pack Horse Library Project was launched as part of President Roosevelt's Work Progress Administration -- First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt had a passion for creating jobs that benefited women and children, especially, and saw a great need for literacy and access to education in Kentucky.  At the time, unemployment in the region was at 40% and about 31% of the population in Eastern Kentucky couldn’t read. But how to deliver books to families living in the Appalachian Mountains, in treacherous terrain and cut off from so much of civilization? You guessed it -- horseback! The ladies who delivered books, scrapbooks, magazines, and newspapers were definitely everyday heroes. We hope you enjoy learning about them as much as we did. ⁣ Sources:  
Everybody Ask Win!

Everybody Ask Win!


**IMPORTANT NEWS BULLETIN** PODCOIN IS GOING UNDER AND WILL NO LONGER WORK AS OF SEPTEMBER 24. PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO US ON ANOTHER PLATFORM SUCH AS: Apple PodcastsPodbeanRadio PublicSpotifyStitcher This week Kelly and Debbie Jo got to hang out with Win Kelly Charles! Win is definitely a badass lady. Born with Cerebral Palsy and severe Scoliosis, Win made quite the early entrance into the world, changing her parents lives and the lives of those around her, forever. You can't help but fall in love with Win's spirit and perseverance. She has authored multiple books, hosts and co-hosts multiple podcasts, and spreads education and awareness about living with Cerebral Palsy and chronic pain, daily. We talked about Spoonie life, fashion for Spoonies and her podcast Diary of a Fashionista, grief & loss, and authenticity! We hope you enjoy hearing Win's story and our conversation in the virtual studio. Connect with Win Here: Make sure you check out her podcast Diary of a Fashionista, on one of these fine listening apps:  
Play Ball!

Play Ball!


This week's episode is a hoot! To keep things interesting Debbie Jo shares again (who needs rules anyway amiright) all about America's favorite pastime, baseball! The story of Jackie Mitchell is full of controversy, mystery, + badassery. The 17 year old struck out 2 of baseball's best players in an exhibition game on April 2, 1931. Or did she? We'll let you decide based on the evidence but we'd love to hear your thoughts + theories so send us a message after you listen! Thanks for listening this week + every week :)
We're coming to you this week with our first ever Corrections Quadrant! A new (and hopefully lasting) listener and friend wrote to us in response to our episode last episode and the use of the term "Gypsy" and she offered us some education on Roma culture. If you'd like to learn more about Roma culture, please check out this awesome article.  Next, Kelly surprises the heck out of Debbie Jo when she tells her why she's working on removing the word "Y'all" from her vocabulary. All about learning, knowing, and doing better, folks. We're all human and don't have to be perfect, but we should try to be better whenever possible. Speaking of being a real ass human... This week Debbie Jo tells Kelly about Carrie A. Nation, a somewhat controversial woman in history. We don't want to give too much away in the show notes, so you should definitely listen and draw your own conclusions. Her story begs the question: are badasses and heroes only ever perfect? (Spoiler alert: No.) And Carrie is credited with opening the country's first ever battered women and children's shelter, so there's that!  Thank you for being with us this week and every week. We had a really great time recording this episode, and Kelly was able to do it from a bedside studio thanks to our distinguished producer, Wade Freeman. Thanks, Wade! Always be a real as human and have a great week, friends! Sources:  
It's been a bit of a hot mess express over here at the Non Mom Happy Hour Virtual Recording Studio the past two weeks. We are going through some growing pains with v2.0. We are doing are best to work with the support team at and get it figured out. They're just as frustrated as we are, we're sure, so please hang in there with us while we get the kinks out. (For instance, in this episode you'll notice that Debbie Jo's audio isn't up to our usual standards. Long story.) SURPRISE! We have some new business. First of all, if you haven't yet, please check out our new-and-improved website, We decided that since our podcast audience has had a serious upgrade in recent months, so should our website, and we think it's pretty cool. Find links to all the social meds, our merch store, photos of us at PodX, all kinds of things. Now, on to the show: This week Kelly tells Debbie Jo about esteemed American author Toni Morrison. Morrison was important for so many reasons; she challenged so much about how we as a society and culture view race, American beauty standards, civil rights, and the balance of good and evil. It's hard to adequately put into words just how important her work has been and what a loss our country and the world suffered when she passed away in August. We hope you dig the tribute. Debbie Jo tells Kelly about... no one. You'll have to listen to learn why! Get to it! Thanks for hanging with us, and remember: Always be a real ass human. (Even if that means you go a week without a podcast episode release, and then your next episode release has audio issues.)     Sources:
For you, it's only been two weeks since we recorded and released an episode. For the Non Moms, it has been four weeks. Time is so weird.  Our producer has an official pseudonym. You can follow him on Instagram as @Wade.Freeman. Do it. Give him production feedback. It'll be great. (He's going to hate us, which is hilarious.) This week you can hear all about Kelly's (successful) neurosurgery and hospital experience (so much tragic comedy); Debbie Jo's new meditation and gratitude practices; Kelly's plumbing disaster which of course took place just days after the neurosurgery; our birthdays! That's right, we're both officially older and neither of us is totally comfortable with it.  This episode, in other words, is a journey through some serious real life, a few disasters, a little bit of success, and a whole lot of fun. Join us next week when we'll have new research for you!  We love y'all so much. Thanks for being here. Also, please consider checking out our patreon at and becoming a patreon for as little as $3 a month! (We'll send you mail that's not bills. How fun is that?!)
Ok, ok, so... yes, Debbie Jo said like a dozen times on our last episode that we were going to do an Area 51-themed episode since it would be our 51st. However, Kelly had major brain fog and this episode was recorded the day before her major neurological surgery and she totally freaking forgot.  That being said, after a bit of ribbing from Debbie Jo, Kelly kicks things off by telling everyone about Sylvia Pankhurst (thanks mom!) Sylvia was raised by folks who were actually into women's rights and education and raised her as such. She "hated fascism and lipstick," and for a time was very involved in Communism. She drifted from Communism eventually but remained active in movements against fascism and colonialism for all her adult life. She died an Honorary Ethiopian at the age of 78, in 1960. Debbie Jo stuck to the actual theme of the show and talked about what was supposed to be the first all-female spacewalk, explains that it was canceled, and why. Yes, it's because there weren't enough medium-sized suits, but it actually goes deeper than that. Just listen, trust me, it's worth it. There's also some conspiracy and alien talk thrown in the mix for fun.  Today marks 10 days since Kelly's surgery, which turned out to be a double laminectomy and full spinal fusion of the C6-C7 vertebrae (there's a cool animated video!) because her spinal disc had actually ruptured. She's recovering well, in spite of a plumbing disaster and stomach virus you're sure to hear all about on next week's episode. Tragic comedy, here we come!    Sources  
Hey hey friends! Lil bit of a curveball for ya today. Rather than sharing research we are sharing some lessons we've learned in business + in life over the past several years.   Naturally we begin the episode with some hilarity. We chat about conspiracy theories, do you think we actually went to the moon? We also chat about secret experiments, MK Ultra anyone?   Then we share some of our biggest lessons from recent years. Like don't be a big fat jerk + message someone about your acne fighting skincare because they post a picture of them with a giant zit on their face. Try new things but if it doesn't feel right or work how you want it to then stop doing that shit!   Probably the biggest productivity hack of all is to get your ass out + get re-inspired. Hear how we have re-inspired ourselves recently in this episode too.   Thank you for listening you guys!  
(It's our producer's fault that this episode is late because he procrastinated. He will henceforth be known as the King of Procrastination Nation.) This is our last episode before Kelly's big surgery! Kelly goes for spinal fusion on July 18th and becomes part Mechanerdzilla and part Bionic Woman. Don't worry, we'll still have new content to post while Kelly is in recovery because we recorded in advance! Kelly kicks things off with the story of English chemist and volunteer Air Raid Warden Rosalind Franklin. This Lady Badass stayed on at Cambridge to pursue her studies in spite of the world (figuratively) and bombs (literally) falling down all around her in WWII. Then, she helped discover the structure of DNA molecules, but of course, received no freaking credit for it, because of men.Debbie Jo lightens the mood with Moms Mabley (born Loretta Mary Aiken), a well-known vaudeville comedian, and prominent member of the African American comedy community's so-called Chitlin' Circuit. It was in the era of segregation in America that Moms Mabley began to gain popularity with black and white audiences. She performed on the Ed Sullivan Show, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, and set a record for performances at the Apollo! Definitely a trailblazer! Thanks for being here with us this week and every week. Again, we apologize for being late, on behalf of our producer. Please check out our patreon and consider becoming a patron at We look forward to hearing from everyone what you think of this week's show! Byyeee.   SOURCES  
Happy one-year podiversary, listeners! Thank you so much for being here with the Non Moms for a whole year of episodes. We are honored to be allowed in your earholes every week. Real talk. New hashtag: #DontLetKellyGoBankrupt Please consider buying her book! To all of our #Spoonie listeners, hang in there! This life isn't easy or cheap. Thankfully, we have each other.  Debbie Jo officially kicks the episode off with the life and times of Babe Didrikson Zaharias. Babe was an incredibly accomplished athlete and took home not one, but two Olympic Gold Medals in Track & Field in 1932. She followed that up with becoming a professional golf player and helping to found the Lady's Professional Golf Association (LPGA). Kelly proves beyond a doubt that she was not ever any kind of jock or athlete. Thank goodness Debbie Jo used to play golf, otherwise Kelly would likely not have understood half of what she said about Babe. Kelly follows Babe up with the story of American poet Phillis Wheatley. Phillis Wheatley is not her birth name, but her slave name, and unfortunately, we do not know her birth name. However, Phillis was the first African American woman to be published as an author in America. Her poetry served as a covert way for her to participate in sociopolitical discussions and support the abolition of slavery, without taking too much heat from colonial white folks about it. This conversation might make you uncomfortable. It's probably supposed to. Tune in next week for our last episode before Kelly's spinal fusion surgery! There may even be a guest! Sources:
Y'all know what time it is! Do you know that next weekend marks 1 year of A Non Mom Happy Hour?! We'll have to think of some special way to celebrate and honor that anniversary with you all.  This week Kelly kicks things off by telling the story of Mary Putnam Jacobi of the Putnam Publishing family. Mary wasn't just one of America's first female physician's, the first woman to attend Ecole de Medecine in Paris, France, or one of the founders of the Women’s Medical Association of New York City. This woman was so badass and so dedicated to the study of medical science that she even journaled about the symptoms of her own brain tumor for years before finally succumbing to it, to help people better understand the tumors. Debbie Jo follows with the story of Mary Fields, AKA, Stagecoach Mary. Due to the fact that Mary was born a slave and lived in the wild west, it can sometimes be difficult to distinguish truth from fiction in HERstory. What is very clear, however, is that her level of badassery was at 10/10. Driving stagecoach for the US Postal Service in those days was no joke, but she was up for the task -- even at age 60! She's a lot of fun to learn about! Consider having a nip of whiskey in her honor whilst listening.  Thanks for being here this week and every week! Always be a real ass human.    Sources  
Kickin' it Old School

Kickin' it Old School


This week the Non Moms are kicking it old school. No badass women being celebrated... outside of the hosts, that is. Kelly has some pretty big news and health updates; she finally fired her terrible doctor! Listen up to hear about why it's so important that Spoonies be tireless advocates for themselves. Or, maybe lean on others to help advocate for them. Then, Debbie Jo checks in and talks about what it's like to discover suddenly in your mid-twenties that you have legitimate attention deficit issues. Ok, so you finally know... now, how do you deal with it, without being mean to yourself? It had been a while since we just talked to our listeners about life, stress, mental health awareness, and self-care, and we decided it was past due. We hope you enjoy the episode (especially our long-time listeners) and that whoever needs the messages receives them. (Skippers will hate this episode. MUAHAHAHA...) If you do enjoy it, then you should definitely check out our Patreon page and consider becoming a monthly patron, because you'll get more of our raw, unfiltered conversations about life, with VIDEO. (Yep, you can see all of the faces we make to make each other cackle-laugh and snort.) You'll also get mail from us as well as the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that you're helping us keep this podcast going. Go to and become a patron, today! (Thank you!)
Pride (Month) & Prejudice

Pride (Month) & Prejudice


The Non Moms were so excited to be back in the studio this week, after several weeks away! Good news and bad news: Bad news, the audio for our live show at PodX was lost. Good news: This is a banging ass episode, anyway!This week Kelly kicks it off by telling Debbie Jo all about Mary Church Terrell, who was actually the badass she covered at the live show. She was so badass that Kelly simply couldn't let her be lost to the evil techno-Gods working against her. Mary was a hell of an activist and was a charter member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People as well as being the founder and president of the National Association of Colored Women. In honor of Pride Month and at the suggestion of two listeners, Debbie Jo told Kelly all about Anne Lister! HOLY. MOLY. Her story kept Kelly on the edge of her seat the entire time, it was amazing. Anne Lister was a lesbian... in the 1800s, y'all! And thanks to the immaculate recording of her life's story in 26 volumes of her personal diaries, a writer in the 1980s was able to establish that - spoiler alert - being a lesbian (or any other member of the LGBTQ+ community) has always been a thing and is totally natural and beautiful, and that love is love. Period.  Happy Pride Month, y'all! Thanks for hanging with us! Sources:
Surprise! It's an interview episode! It's been a while since the Non Moms have had anyone on to interview, but they met Kate Van Sprange at PodX and just knew they had to have her on. The ladies recorded this episode in the Netflix Recording Studio at PodX in Nashville, Tennessee on June 1.  We talked social worker/nonprofit burnout, self-care, and reinventing oneself as many times as necessary to find peace and happiness in oneself while pursuing a career and lifestyle that is fulfilling and honors oneself. We even talked about Spoonie life a bit, as Kate's husband Mel is a badass Cystic Fibrosis warrior! (Check out the badass organization Rock CF!) For all of our listeners and pals who are vocalists, lecturers, people who have to talk too much for any reason and are always dealing with throat irritation and loss of voice, you definitely need to check Kate's product, Vocal Eze, out! We are especially big fans of the lozenges.  You can find them on Amazon and at Sam Ash, Guitar Center, and more! Interact with Kate (and her delightful husband Mel) on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook:
This is our last episode of May, our last episode before PodX, and the last episode of Mental Health Awareness Month! Where is the time going?! This week Kelly kicks things off by exploring the history of women's mental health treatment. Spoiler alert: It's been rough. The Ancient Greeks had some seriously crazy ideas about what a woman's uterus was doing in her body and how it was impacting her mood and behavior. Then there was Victorian England where it was decided that all we needed was orgasms to keep us happy, and that, of course, male doctors must be the ones to deliver them. *Eye Roll*  Debbie Jo goes on to tell us about the first American traditional tattoo artist, Maude Wagner. Maude was only ever tattooed by her husband, who taught her the art of tattooing, and they passed the tradition on to their only daughter. The Wagners traveled for years with the circus as a freakshow act, both for being heavily tattooed and for performing the art of tattooing in front of audiences.  Special thanks to artist Meredith Elmore (Instagram @meredithelmorepaints) for allowing us to share one of her pieces of art in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month. Find her (and this print!) on Etsy at Enter promo code "Nonmomhappyhour" for free shipping! Take care of yourselves and each other, folks. You matter to us!      Sources
The Non Moms were in rare form this week, Y'All! Skippers, if you've made it this far, you can get your skip-button fingers ready, and tune in at around the 20-minute mark.  Kelly kicks things off by telling Debbie Jo about Frances Perkins who we will heretofore consider the Godmother of the Labor Movement. Without Frances, the New Deal might not ever have happened, or at least not as we know it. You can thank her for 40-hour work-weeks and the abolition of child labor. You can thank yourselves for the destruction of many of the benefits once afforded by the labor unions, like 40-hour work-weeks and overtime pay. Well done, America! Continuing the coverage of Mental Health Awareness Month, Debbie Jo follows up Frances with the story of Alison Malmon, Founder and Executive Director of the nonprofit organization Active Minds. Alison was inspired by the death of her brother, who committed suicide, to change the mental health narrative on college campuses across the United States. Suicide is the leading cause of death for college students and 1,100 college students each year commit suicide. Active Minds helps empower students to help one another and prevent such deaths. Finally, this all leads to a conversation about herpes and the stigma attached to the herpes virus. Debbie Jo shares her personal life experience, surprising even herself. Please, if you are considering suicide, reach out for help, you can call the Suicide Prevent Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or visit  Sources:
NOTE: May is Mental Health Awareness Month: According to Women’s Health.Gov: Good mental health is essential to overall well-being. More than 1 in 5 women in the United States experienced a mental health condition in the past year, such as depression or anxiety.1 Many mental health conditions, such as depression and bipolar disorder, affect more women than men or affect women in different ways from men.2,3 Most serious mental health conditions cannot be cured. But they can be treated, so you can get better and live well.4 National Domestic Violence Hotline Phone Number: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) National Sexual Assault Hotline Phone Number: 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) Safe Helpline (for members of the military) Phone Number: 1-877-995-5247 On to the show! Debbie Jo throws everyone a curveball this week and covers not one woman, not two women... but an entire town outside of Atlanta, Georgia which is being predominantly governed by badass African American women. The town is South Fulton, Georgia, which hasn't even officially been a town for but a couple of years. The women aren't hired just because they're women; these are well educated, credentialed, and experienced women who all happen to have been voted into or hired into offices of the local government. They are doing some breakthrough things in the court system of South Fulton, too, so you'll definitely want to hear about this place and keep your eye on it for future outcomes. Kelly follows the town of South Fulton with everything you might think you already know about none other than Lady Gaga AKA Mother Monster. Kelly didn't fall in love with Lady Gaga in the same timeframe or for the same reason that most people have -- her music. Kelly discovered Lady Gaga as a person, as well as her persona when Kelly watched her Netflix Original documentary, Gaga: Five Foot Two. Kelly talks about all that Lady Gaga has survived and overcome (especially in regard to mental and physical health and wellness) to get where she is today in her career and her life. Spoiler alert: There is no magic button or pill to make your dreams come true, Y'All. Ya gotta work for it. She certainly does. Boop merch is officially available at our Teespring store: Sources:,_Georgia  
BOOP. Yep, now we're just doing it to make Debbie Jo crazy. Kelly kicks things off this week by telling Debbie Jo about Emilie Schindler, wife of the more commonly known, Oscar Schindler of Schindler's List fame. Emilie wasn't simply a supportive spouse who stood by and watched her husband save the lives of some 1,300 Jews during WWII and the Holocaust. She was an active participant and advocate herself; her role as an activist, ally, and nurse has often been overshadowed by the legacy of her husband who, as it turns out, bailed on Emilie - straight abandoned her, their marriage, and their life in Argentina - after the war.  Feiwell (later went by Francisco) No. 371 on Schindler’s list was quoted at age 75 as saying, “As long as I live, I will always have a sincere and eternal gratitude for dear Emilie. I think she triumphed over danger because of her courage, intelligence, and determination to do the right and humane thing. She had immense energy and she was like a mother.” (Quote taken from some discussion about cognitive dissonance and how we as humans allow atrocities such as the Holocaust to happen Debbie Jo lightens the mood with the story of Annie Edson Taylor. "Who the heck is Annie Edson Taylor?" you may be asking yourself. She's the first (person and) woman to ever successfully ride over the Falls of Niagra in a barrel. A pickle barrel, to be exact. A custom pickle barrel. With an anvil in it. Seriously... Just listen. p.s. Kelly is working to have new "Boop" and "Boop That Sh*t!" merch in the store by Tuesday. So, keep an eye out for that at: Sources for this Week's Episode:
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