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Author: Matt Hauske & Hilary Strang

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a kim stanley robinson read-along podcast with regular forays into utopia. hosted by some friends who are into communism, science fiction and other stuff
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We're pack, the science fiction literature podcast equivalent of tubing down a lazy river with a six-pack of beer! This week we talk about Book 4 of The Years of Rice and Salt, "The Alchemist," where Khalid, Bahram, and Iwang discover the secrets of the universe while attempting to placate the venal khan and suss out the political machinations of his treasurer Nadir Divanbegi. For a lot of readers, this is the chapter where the book really starts to click. As Hilary puts it, this is where she figured out the project of the book is really to tell the story of the emergence of modernity without a progress narrative and in the absence of Eurocentrism--because, of course, "Europe" doesn't exist! This book is also where we see how scientific knowledge develops alongside a different set of ideologies, both religious and political. Here, Robinson dramatizes how scientific “discovery” exists within other forms of knowledge and inhabitation of the world. Science is historically contingent and situated among other ways of being in the world, incarnated in the character of Bahram and his Sufi-influenced conception of the world, wiht a heavy emphasis on love. The story about ideas is always a false story - scientific discovery is imbricated with power, specifically imperial power and violent state power. With Khalid, Iwang, and Bahram, as well as the old texts they consult (and frequently discard) discovery is shown to be a communal activity. The speeds of sound and light, poison gas and WMD, ballistics and baseball, love and learning (love as a giving of attention, like in Aurora)--all these and more are discussed in this very man-heavy chapter where patriarchy is very much still the dominant force. Tune in to our friends' podcast Better Read than Dead this coming week when special guest Hilary will lend her expertise on Ursula Le Guin's masterpiece, The Dispossessed!: https://anchor.fm/better-read7 Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
In this somewhat delayed episode we discuss Book Three of Kim Stanley Robinson's The Years of Rice and Salt, "Ocean Continents," in which a Chinese fleet accidentally discovers Yingzhou, which we know as the Americas. Admiral Kheim, the fleet's doctor I-Chin, and a Miwok girl called Butterfly find each other and escape a pretty sticky situation with the Incan executioner god! Hilary and Matt discuss the differences between discovery and encounter, estrangement and the real, knowledge and superstition, structure and contingency, control and luck, and the phenomenon of abundance without surplus. Alas, they don't talk enough about the elements and the chapter's deep symbolism of earth, wind, fire, and water--but it's there! Moral relativism aside, we can all agree: Human sacrifice is bad, whether that’s to an Incan executioner god or the market. Recommendations: Tubthumping by Chumbawumba, Inferno by Dante We may have to take next week off, but will certainly be back after that! Thanks for listening! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Warning: we will not be doing this book justice! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Hello! We’re back. Sorry we’re late, but we’re back now, to discuss THE YEARS OF RICE AND SALT, book-by-book. We recommend you read this book through once already if you’ve never read it before for its own pleasures. It’s a great, great, great book that you should just read and delight in. Then tune into our commentary for a re-read, which I assume is what a lot of you are doing. And in advance, thank you for listening! Matt apologizes in advance for his complete ignorance about Buddhism. “Awake to Emptiness” follows Bold Bardash and his adventures with the slave eunuch Kyu. Matt and Hilary talk about this book’s mode of narration, its unique mixture of materialism and spiritualism, and the way that, from the perspective of someone who has been raised in America in the American education system, it completely defamiliarizes the reader as regards world history and geography. Matt and Hilary compare this to the Mars books a bit and we talk about the patterns of subjectivity that emerge between characters. Characters appear not as monadic individuals, but rather as being produced in and through networks of relations that are both social and, in this case, cosmic. We talk alternate history, provincializing Europe (shout-out to Dipesh Chakrabarty), and the way the book reveals that what we understand to be modernity has in fact been produced to a significant extent in places that are not Europe and by peoples who are not European. And, of course, we return to the structure of feeling. For tons of more info and analysis of this book, see the kimstanleyrobinson.info page, which also has a key to what the characters represent. Our method of reading is to find the text’s pleasures and discuss its mysteries without thinking that the only (or main) goal of reading is to uncover an author’s intent. For us, texts should remain open to readerly interpretation, and giving some kind of authoritative account about what the meaning of the novel “really” is tends to be limiting. BUT all that said, the kimstanleyrobinson.info page has invaluable information and we’ll probably rely on it at various points during this season. Thank you for listening! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us @podcastonmars Rate and review us wherever you get podcasts Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
It's our season finale, where we bid a fond farewell to Freya, ship, and the cast of KSR's transcendent Aurora! We're experiencing some good ol' audio issues, but they're nothing compared to Freya's mythic struggles with the sun and the ocean. It's hard to sum up this book, and somehow equally as hard to sum up this chapter, but we do our best. This chapter is a lot about the difficulty of putting the feeling of being on earth into words--some call it defamiliarization, others call it estrangement, we call it art, and it rocks. For Hilary, this chapter is about feeling. For Matt, it's about overcoming the difference between reality and fantasy. For both of them, it's a joy. Takeaways: Utopia is hard, but necessary. It's not going to be found "out there." It's going to be built, like a beach or a work of art. Freedom is found in letting go. Don't feel bad if you have trouble letting go of your ideas, or if you find that others can't help but live in their ideas: that's where we live! And, go to the beach! Our next season will be on THE YEARS OF RICE AND SALT, and folks, it's kickass. Get yours from your favorite independent bookseller while you still can, like maybe the Seminary Co-op or find one on bookshop.com. Read KSR on the structure of feeling in The New Yorker. Read KSR's Dystopias Now in Commune Mag. Read about grunion here.  Thanks for listening and stay safe! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you get podcasts (and tell your friends) Use the anchor.fm app to send us a voicemail Music (usually) by Spirit of Space (this time by two folks whose names we don't want to mention by name because it would be a pain to re-edit the show to avoid litigation) See you in a few weeks in a new season! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Pepsi Matt McDonald’s and Home Depot Hilary coming at you at the beginning of the after of the beforetimes, Phase 2 in full effect! The Hard Problem of this chapter is alternately deceleration, consciousness, love, and meaning, we we talk about it all! Ship is now fully the subject and the narrator of their own story, and Matt and Hilary discuss just how other or alien ship’s consciousness is from human consciousness. This takes Hilary into a vital detour into the greatest novel ever written, Frankenstein, and Matt into a self-indulgent Werner Herzog impression. We discuss the limits of consciousness, sensation, perception, meaning, love as a form of attention, narration as an effort to constitute oneself beyond just a mass of experiences, through language. Hilary doesn’t feel superior to her gut flora, which is what makes her a better person than Matt. Sustaining relationship to another gives the ship language, gives ship the language that allows it to say “we” Matt's seasonal Werner Herzog impression underscores the realization ship arrives at, that the dream of heading to the stars, exposing it as a nightmare that relies on false understanding of what human beings and life and livingness are, of what history is, and deeply misunderstands what it means to come from a planet., We discuss ship's loneliness and what they do to fill the time while everyone on board is asleep (ship's version of doing a sourdough starter). This chapter gets at the way the idea of consciousness as a problem of the individual mistakes something about what it is to be a living human (and probably what it is to be any other conscious creature) -- the recognition of ourselves as selves doesn’t happen by ourselves, it happens always in relation to others. Unfortunately, ship is not going to be able to be in a society, and winds up just like Terminator 2. We discuss the role of comedy and humor in this chapter, we critique the ideology of reproduction that's grounded in capitalism and settler colonialism, the opposition of love and connection vs. the ideology that’s happy to abandon others to loneliness and death (playing out on the news every day), and we try to drive home the point that: Humans are NOT the virus, capitalism is NOT a disease — Please avoid metaphorizing social conditions as disease! They play into racist fantasies! Capital is carried on by human beings in ways we are helpless to do anything about as individuals, but ways that we are NOT helpless to do anything about as a mass—as a we! Humans make history, not under conditions of our own choosing. Like capitalism, love, attention, meaning, and joy are also things humans make, have made, and will continue to make, and, collectively, we can choose to make more of the latter and less of the former. Terminator 2 is a great, but dumb movie, and Dune is just a stupid book. This show is brought to you by podcasts, the only thing that brings positivity into the world under our current affective regime. If you email us or send us something you’ve created and don’t hear about it, please don’t be offended. We are a mess. And yet Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
In this episode, for the first 25 minutes or so we commiserate about corona quarantine and talk about how we feel upset. Matt and Hilary talk cooking and share their misadventures in sourdough, a profoundly alien yet living thing. We talk about the erasure of the boundary between work and leisure under capitalism, and particularly how attenuated it is under corona. We chat about mutual aid and the struggle to become the kind of person who does mutual aid and not just the kind of person who believes mutual aid is good. Discussing the willful change in habits that becoming a revolutionary subject requires finally gets us around to talking about the fifth chapter of KSR’s Aurora, “Homesick.” Ship and the gang are heading home to earth and everything is going really, really badly! The inhabitants of ship are confronted with a new set of material conditions that impose upon them new acts, practices, habits, and rituals that turn them into somewhat revolutionary subjects, but in a different way. They gradually arrive at a new ideology that points to a new obviousness: they will have to put themselves in ship’s hands and go into an experimental mode of hibernation (which they must invent!) in order to survive the journey home. We further discuss models and analogies, extinction, colonialism, contingency, control, capitalism, government, law, norms—all the biggies, you know the deal. There are a couple anti-commercials when we encounter our recurring and charming technical difficulties. Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Lots of big and new thoughts in this one, where we discuss ship's sovereignty, the fantasy bribe of the future, constituting our selves politically after long periods of political hibernation, the return of the repressed, the memory of architecture, and the myths of neoliberalism. One of our intrepid listeners has purchased the domain householdersunion.org if you are interested in organizing a rent strike in your building and creating a new world. Hilary mentioned a story on Italian mutual aid in communmag.com. Matt was compelled to make a snide comment about Elizabeth Warren, but that's just because he's a bad person. Thanks for listening! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
In this episode, we try to avoid talking about the corona virus as much as possible. After the first ten minutes or so, anyway. We do talk about a lot of things! Many, many things, in fact, almost all of them concerning Chapter 3 of Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora, "In the Wind." In the interest of getting this out in a timely fashion I'll leave the details as a surprise. But rest assured--there is talking in this episode! Thank you for listening! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Special coronavirus edition! "Land Ho," we can all agree, is a true masterpiece. There's far too much to talk about in this breathtaking chapter, and Matt and Hilary do the best they can but still manage to only scratch the surface. This chapter is about a lot of stuff. On the surface, it's mostly about Freya's wanderjahr. But it's also, perhaps primarily, about ship and ship's relationship to Devi. The complexity of this chapter is too great to put into words without writing a dissertation! Thanks for listening and social distancing with us! Stay safe and healthy! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
A very special episode of Marooned on Mars with Matt and a Beer finds Matt by himself talking at you through a microphone. If you like Hilary and you don't like Matt, skip this episode! If you don't like Matt and you listen to this episode anyway, what is wrong with you? Matt is flying solo to fill the gap created when Matt and Hilary were both sick last week and couldn't record. He talks at you about: 1. (Briefly) Canvassing for Bernie 2. Martian Time-Slip by Philip K. Dick (1964) 3. The World, the Flesh, and the Devil (Ranald MacDougall, 1959) 4. The Wandering Earth (Frant Gwo, 2019) He does NOT talk about Aurora or Kim Stanley Robinson. ONLY listen if you want to hear him drink beer and talk about those four things! Hilary will be back (with Matt) very soon to discuss the second chapter of Aurora! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Aurora kicks off in typically Robinsonian fashion, with a near disaster at sea...on a spaceship! Matt and Hilary talk about names and narratives, shitholes and Hobbits, and crisis ordinary. Email us at BongRipper420 and canvass, call, text, and vote for Bernie Sanders! (Do NOT vote for billionaires.) Matt's got an extra copy of Aurora, and if you want it and live anywhere from Augusta to Portland (Maine), hit us up. Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Hello! Matt and Hilary are back with a preview episode of the next season of Marooned! On [Fill in the Blank]. This season we’ll be discussing KSR’s brilliant Aurora. In this preliminary episode we re-introduce ourselves and the premise of the show. We talk about what science fiction and utopia are, why we’re interested in them (and why you should be, too), and our approach to thinking about them. We also decide how many episodes you should expect. After consulting with your psychoanalysts, we resolve to read this chapter by chapter, so there will be 7 episodes after this, maybe an additional one after that. Stop at 40 minutes if you are only interested in science fiction and don’t want to hear Matt and Hilary rant about politics and vociferously endorse Bernie Sanders and enumerate his positive qualities and the glorious future his presidency will usher in, while simultaneously maintaining a healthy skepticism about electoralism and the State. We talk about knocking on doors, solidarity, making a new world, being here for each other, being a person. Hilary shares her experience canvassing for Bernie in Iowa, and next week Matt will share his experience of knocking doors in New Hampshire. I don’t know what’s up with the audio on this episode, why Matt sounds like he’s in a fishbowl for like 40 minutes or whatever, why his beard seems to have its own soundtrack, etc. I’m not an audio engineer. Just take what you can get. At one point Matt laughs so hard at Hilary uses the accurate appellation “Mayor Cheat” that he knocks his microphone out and disconnects the connection. Good stuff! Around 1:08:00 Matt starts talking about Maine politics so if you’re not interested in that or indulging his idle thoughts, just stop listening. But listen to the joker who represents Matt’s district in Congress. Other texts and thinkers we discuss in this episode include: Jose Munoz, Cruising Utopia https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781479874569 Ernst Bloch, The Principle of Hope https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780262521994 Darko Suvin, Metamorphoses of Science Fiction https://www.indiebound.org/book/9783034319485 Fredric Jameson Encyclopedia of Science Fiction http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/ World Without End https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049964/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_2 Other generation ship novels: Molly Gloss, The Dazzle of Day https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781481498470 Gene Wolfe, Book of the Long Sun https://www.indiebound.org/search/book?keys=book+of+the+long+sun Stan’s essay Dystopias Now https://communemag.com/dystopias-now/ Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Hello listeners and goodbye Mars! With this episode we leave KSR's Mars behind, as we conclude The Martians, the "apocrypha" of the Mars Trilogy.  [SPOILER ALERT: Our next venture will be KSR's Aurora, and will get started mid-January to early-February. We suggest you get your copy now and read it through once before we start (if you, like Matt, haven't already read it), then read it again with us!] We leave Mars in a mood similar to that created by the ending of this collection, with a mixture of melancholy and relief. It's hard to leave these works behind, but we're looking forward to new adventures and a new book! Here we talk about the two final sections of The Martians, the collection of poems "If Wang Wei Lived on Mars" and the autobiographical "Purple Mars." Matt and Hilary find a lot to talk about regarding the form of poetry and what it demands and makes possible for us readers. We dive deep into poems including "Visiting," "After a Move" & "Canyon Color" & "Vastitas Borealis," "Six Thoughts on the Uses of Art,"  "Report on the First Recorded Case of Areophagy," and "The Red's Lament." These poems are thoughtful, sad, profound, hilarious, and, in a word, brilliant, resonating with the history of poetry from Dante to Wordsworth (and likely beyond). If you thought Stan was good at writing novels, dig his sci-fi poetry! Here the line between fiction and reality completely blurs, and the political themes of the Mars Trilogy give way to a much more personal constellation of concerns and expressions. There is a brief bout of unavoidable audio distortion at about 22 minutes (mitigated by a musical interlude) and a brief digression into film criticism somewhere around 1 hour 20 minutes. Then we share our favorite moments from "Purple Mars." Hilary appreciates the thoughtfully hilarious description of the absurdity of the writing process, and Matt wonders aloud why we never saw any of the Mars characters go poop. Try harder, Stan! We have had such a great time reading through this world with you and we hope you join us in 2020 as we bask in Aurora and beyond! Thank you for listening and supporting us! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
It’s Hello! Marooned on Mars with Matt and Hilary. We're turning 50! Hilary is in stereo, I think, and Matt seems to be in mono? This may explain some differences in our levels. Anyway. Recording via the internet remains a challenge, for us, at least. If our dialogue sounds somewhat stilted, it’s because Matt is recording from an unspecified tube at some undisclosed location in the world. Hilary is, presumably, in Chicago. This time we enter the home stretch and talk about five entries in The Martians. This selection really has a sense of being late in the day, a mixture of regret and loss, but something to move on toward and look forward to. Coyote Remembers Our relationship with Coyote ends on a kind of sad/ melancholic note. We discuss the setting of this story, or what we can extrapolate as the setting and the “you” it addresses. Themes of loneliness, “brotherhood,” and relation are foregrounded here. Coyote remembers and accounts for the people he has lost. What does it mean to be done with something, when that something has been the whole world to you? Sax Moments Nietzschean aphorisms and paradoxical homilies and jokes, or the News from Lake Wobegon on Mars? Can it be both? The overall joke here seems to be just imagining Sax reading Nietzsche (and other philosophers) at all, and then getting frustrated with lateral or “non-scientific” thinking (as he might deem it). Sax living in the limits between epistemology, rationality, embodiment, and experience. The Names of the Canals Naming, life, and love. Scale. [Something happens with Hilary’s track here where there’s a lot of distortion {which actually gave Matt in the editing process evidence that may suggest a solution to other problems, but let’s leave that aside for now}. SORRY!] The Soundtrack We talk music! We talk strategies of music + writing (- writing avoidance). Matt blames his cats for all his problems. Again. Hilary plays music for her cats, who hate Philip Glass. So that tells you all you need to know about our two hosts! A Martian Romance The tension between melancholy and hope. When do stories end? Whose is the romance of the title? Climate crisis on Mars storyline and Roger + Eileen romance are both cashed out. Death and the future. Structures of feeling. Reading this in our current moment. Our podcast does not recognize holidays! Thanks for listening! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
We're back...again! We continue our discussion of The Martians, the stories "Sexual Dimorphism," "Enough is as Good as a Feast," and "What Matters." These are three amazing stories, deeply personal, comic and touching, personal and meditative. It seems these entries just get better and better. Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Again we have some technical issues, which we’ve done our best to ameliorate in post-production. For the first hour and twenty minutes or so Matt might sound not-great. Thank you for bearing with us! We talk about Bernie Sanders for a bit and wish him well, self-identifying as proud identity cultists, hopefully not alienating some of our listeners. For your convenience, here are some pointers to when we start talking about which stories in this extra-long episode of Marooned on Mars! 12:30 — We finally start talking about something else besides the world sucking, namely, The Martians by Kim Stanley Robinson. Start by going back a bit to the Michel in Provence chapter. 22:30 — Jackie on Zo Extremely touching story about Jackie’s relationship to her daughter, with a very sad ending. 43:00 — Keeping the Flame (Nirgal) Comparing Hiroko and Phyllis, their legacies, cults or practices of remembrance around them. 1:04:00 — Saving Noctis Dam Pseudo-Nadia story about saving a town from a hurricane with plywood - work done under conditions of necessity. Who is Stephan?? 1:11:00 — Big Man in Love Matt’s version of the story: “Big Man grows a penis like an Impossible burger so he can have sex with a kelp lady.” Listener Michael drew a comparison to Ursula Le Guin’s Always Coming Home 1:20:00 – Distortion break: Matt’s end becomes much more listenable Discussion of increasing slippage between folktale and science and fact slides into discussion of language and words in… An Argument for the Deployment of All Safe Terraforming Technologies Experience of the body is an argument that can’t be rendered in words—the rhetoric of the ineffable. Temporal change, experience of time, temporality of riding a wave. Robinson’s “knots in time” connect to Wordsworth’s “spots in time”? Matt is looking for the terms Erfahrung and Erlebnis (he thinks…he’s probably wrong). 1:41:00 — Selected Abstracts from The Journal of Aerological Studies 1:49:00 — Odessa We end with an agricultural update, especially regarding turnips and turnip greens, as well as a plug for an upcoming podcast spinoff project about the Alien franchise of movies that you can look for in a few months. Thanks for listening! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
DO NOT ADJUST YOUR PODCAST PLAYER. We're using a new recording scheme, so at one point, Hilary sounds like a scary robot. But we're powering through! This week, we talk about "Arthur Sternbach Brings the Curveball to Mars," "Salt and Fresh," and the two sections on the Martian Constitution and Charlotte Dorsa Brevia's "worknotes." First we chat about teaching and the fine arts of giving advice, and having that advice ignored, and ignoring advice. Then we get into the most important thing, which is baseball and the communities it makes. Then we talk about "Salt and Fresh," which is very cool. Then we talk about the second most important thing, which is crafting a legal framework for governing a planet, and how it would be like if we controlled the terms under which we work and had a say in the kinds of labor we do, how the products are distributed, and what gets produced. SPOILER ALERT: things would be better. Then we end with a riff on trees and how good they are, in contradistinction to the governing bodies of the city of Chicago. Trees discussed include chestnut and apple. Let's decommodify the food system by planting trees and working them communally! It's not that big an ask. Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app, where you can also donate to the show Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
We rejoin Roger Clayborne (no relation to Ann) and Eileen Monday as they're reunited for a climb up Olympus Mons, the tallest mountain in the solar system. A lot to talk about in this episode, including Heidegger and Sartre, Romanticism, post-Romanticism, and nature, colonialism and history, somatic experiences, misery tourism, and worlding. Way too much to summarize! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
Hi! We’re still figuring out how best to handle our new remote recording and figuring out sound levels, etc., so if Matt is too loud and Hilary is too quiet—sorry! This is low-effort, low-tech, labor-of-love stuff. We appreciate you bearing with us! This week we talk about two short stories, “Coyote Makes Trouble” and “Michel in Provence.” Even though they’re short, there’s tons to talk about! First, some inane chatter about stupid techno-alternatives to walking, like Segways and electric scooters. And cars. That comes out of some delight in the fact that KSR writes SF stories about hiking, which reflects his commitment to the quotidian and everyday and something that really matters. In “Coyote Makes Trouble,” we talk about Coyote’s place within the revolution, as an agent who also has to mediate between conflicting tensions within the movement. He wants to go faster than Maya, but also is not happy with the aggressive stance of the Reds, and he’s also constantly at risk of having his spy network infiltrated. Here he’s on a mission to do a banner drop. We talk about the relationship between action and strategy, violence and tactics, small demonstrations vs. large-scale revelations of power. We talk about the science-fictional quality of luxury liners and cruise ships and Coyote’s unique place in the books as someone from an entirely different place and background than the other members of the First Hundred, and we wrap up by discussing the place of laughter and joy within revolutionary movements like the ones going on today. Our discussion of “Michel in Provence” starts at about 33 minutes with a call for 800 more listeners to the show per episode so we can make enough money for Matt to buy lunch two days a week, if we run ads for mattresses. This is a lovely chapter, melancholy, but sweet and hopeful (as hopeful as Michel can be at any rate). It picks up after the events of “Michel in Antarctica,” charting a different history of human settlement of Mars. A different mission to Mars creates a different kind of Martian subject, one who’s only a tourist and can’t wait to get home. Nevertheless, Michel is beset by regret and self-recrimination, wondering what might have been. He thinks Mars might’ve been able to stand as a symbol…but we know that’s not what happened in the actually existing world of Martian settlement. It wasn’t a symbol, they didn’t exist as an emblem of togetherness. They created an actually existing system that had its own conflicts and contradictions that were certainly not harmonious. There’s also a different kind of life extension here, one that reinforces the status quo hierarchies of rich and poor. We touch on the elemental imagery that we’ve come to expect from KSR, especially in a Michel chapter, and discuss Michel’s various “projects.” Here he seems able to overcome the nostalgia that cripples him in the Mars Trilogy with regard to his beloved Provence and come to different terms with his attachment to place, or form a different attachment to Provence that we can see as hopeful (if still sad), informed by his brief time on Mars that he didn’t like. Maya, as always, helps him organize his feelings and actions around his project. Next week, “Green Mars!” It's going to be a big one, so get your Heidegger, Sartre, and Melville ready! New show motto: Expect things to get better! Email us at maroonedonmarspodcast@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @podcastonmars Leave us a voicemail on the Anchor.fm app Rate and review us on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts! Music by Spirit of Space --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/marooned-on-mars/message
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