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Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I'm your host Tim Landes. On this episode Meg Charron, Deputy Director of OKPOP Museum, discusses the vision and plans for the museum located across Cain's Ballroom in the Arts District. She takes listeners floor by floor to break down how they will share the stories of Oklahomans' impacts in pop culture. Meg talks about the growing collection of artifacts and how they will use them for storytelling. She also discusses construction funding and the need for additional money to complete the buildout.  We begin the conversation discussing the life and legacy of the late Gaylord Oscar Herron, who passed away the day before we recorded the conversation.  As mentioned in the episode, Sterlin Harjo co-directed a documentary a decade ago about G Oscar that can be viewed here.  Tim visited OKPOP for a December TulsaPeople feature, plus took part in their podcast, OKPOP Radio Hour, which you can listen to here. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. Renee McKenney is the new senior vice president of tourism for Tulsa Regional Chamber and president of Tulsa Regional Tourism. She came to Tulsa in August with over three decades of experience in hospitality and tourism.  She discusses why she chose to take on the job, what she's learned and experienced in the few months she's been here and her goals for tourism.  Her background includes meeting planning, sports events, hotels, resorts, airlines, cruises, even theme parks–uniquely and immediately positioning her as a wealth of insight and understanding of local and regional partner operations and challenges.She previously worked for VisitDallas, where she was the first Chief Experience Officer in the nation for the hotel and destination space. After this recording occurred, Tulsa Regional Tourism officials announced  a record $359 million total  economic impact for booked events in fiscal year 2022. The previous record was $308.2 million total economic impact in fiscal year 2019. For more information on Visit Tulsa click here. Following the conversation, hear a new song from Boston Celtic punk band Dropkick Murphys, which used Woody Guthrie lyrics and the Church Studio to record their new album and this single, which features Turnpike Troubadour's Evan Felker. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode Cherokee filmmaker Jeremy Charles discusses putting down the cameras to produce a groundbreaking album of contemporary music in the Cherokee language performed by Cherokee musicians. That said he hasn't stopped working on film projects. He somehow found the time to do both, plus be a dad and husband. Jeremy discusses how he went from being one of the most sought-after photographers in town a decade ago to becoming a leading filmmaker in the Cherokee Nation. The tribe is investing money in movies and shows, and Jeremy talks about what it means to be helping lead the charge in producing content that tells our tribe's story through our voices. Links mentioned in the episode:Lyrical legacy: Groundbreaking album aims to preserve Cherokee languageCheers for ‘Chuj’Scenes from "Anvdvnelisgi" live from Cain's BallroomTulsa Talks episode that feature's Kalyn Fay's single. Also later this week on Oct. 21, you can hear "Anvdvnelisgi" on all the streaming platforms. There are CDs available and a limited vinyl available for preorder at Horton Records. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes and I am about to share with you a very special episode of this podcast. Last month, I sat down with Eva Unterman inside the Sherwin Miller Museum of Jewish Art’s Holocaust Center to discuss her life and to learn from her. It has been 77 years since the liberation of Nazi death camps during World War II. In this conversation, Eva recounts her family’s experiences in the war from the day the Nazis invaded their home in Poland in 1939 when she was a small child to their liberation in 1945. Eva turns 90 this month and is celebrating with her induction into the Tulsa Hall of Fame. We begin this conversation discussing her enshrinement and what it means to be a part of the 36th class of the Hall of Fame. You can read about all the inductees in our October feature.I’ve spent most my life studying military history and it started with World War II. I’ve had the honor a of meeting numerous veterans of that war and sharing some of their stories. Eva says every one of them are her heroes because they all fought to stop Adolf Hitler and the genocide. We close this conversation with her thoughts on the world today as she sat a few feet away from a floor-to-ceiling image of white supremacists marching with tiki torches in Charlottesville in 2017. She’s concerned about the rise of fascism and just as much so about how we’re mistreating our planet that’s creating devastating results. It’s one thing to hear Eva tell her story. It’s another to watch her share it. We also filmed this conversation. You can view it here. Before we begin, I’m sharing a sponsor message so you can listen to the conversation uninterrupted. Thank you so much to Eva and the staff at the Sherwin Miller.This is Tulsa Talks with Eva Unterman.
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I'm your host Tim Landes. On this episode I talk with Tulsa Day Center Associate Director Noe Rodriguez, who has devoted the last 16 years to helping people who are experiencing homelessness get back on track and get into housing. He discusses how numerous Tulsa organizations, including the Day Center, are working together and adapting to meet the needs as the demands increase, which is also the topic in this September magazine feature.  He also talks about the ways you can help them in their efforts. Noe was previously featured in a 2018 feature. Following that conversation hear a new single from Kalyn Fay, who is one of many Cherokee artists who recorded songs in Cherokee for the groundbreaking new album "ANVDVNELISGI" released by Horton Records and produced by Jeremy Charles who will be a guest on the Oct. 19 episode of Tulsa Talks. See images from the Cherokee National Holiday concert here. Learn more about the Horton Records release here. Learn more about Kalyn here.  Kalyn's NRP performance. More info about the Oct. 15 performance at Cain's Ballroom. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode: McNellie’s Restaurant Group’s Lindsey Gifford discusses her role in the company as a managing partner overseeing popular restaurants The Tavern, Bull in the Alley and Wild Fork, plus the upcoming Bar Serra in Utica Square. Originally from OKC, Lindsey relocated to Tulsa in 2009 and took a job as a part-time waitress. She discusses working her way up in the industry and how it’s changed since she started. McNellie’s Group has numerous restaurants participating in Restaurant Week from Sept. 9-18. She discusses the importance of the event in helping feed Oklahoma kids through the Food Bank’s Food for Kids program. Plus music from the Shelter People. ----It’s a great time to be a music fan in Tulsa. I mean it’s always been a good time, but now it’s different. It feels even better. Maybe it’s the resurgence of live music following two years of a lot of live streaming and YouTube sessions. You can catch a great show every night of the week. We publish weekly music listings (linked in the show notes). Save that link so you can check it out anytime and see who is playing where. In our October issue I talked to Cain’s Ballroom co-owner Chad Rodgers about how things are going at the historic concert venue. If you go to a show this fall there’s a good chance I’ll be there enjoying it as well. So many great bands coming. I also talked to rapper Steph Simon about his upcoming Dreamland Festival happening in the Arts District over 918 Weekend. It will conclude with Hip-Hop 918 at Guthrie Green, which is celebrating it’s 10th birthday the day this episode drops. Lots more happening there for the big anniversary. One of our most popular stories out the gate this month is about new music venue Thelma’s Peach over in the Kendall-Whittier. They too have big plans for 918 weekend. And congrats to them on the successful opening in June. While we’re talking major music happenings, coming up Nov. 2-5 is the Music Cities Convention. There will be talks and presentations, complimentary music tours, after parties and tons of live music and networking opportunities. It will be the biggest and longest Music Cities Convention yet because that’s how we do it here. Like I said, it’s a great time to be a music fan in Tulsa. Now on to this week’s song from The Shelter People courtesy of Horton Records.You can order the EP and lots of other great music at 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes and this is the 100th episode! Thank you so much for listening to each episode.  On Aug. 4, I moderated a conversation with University of Tulsa President Brad Carson at the Tulsa Press Club for one of its Page One events.  I got to know Brad over 20 years ago when he was running for Congress. We hadn’t talked in 19 years, so I really enjoyed the opportunity to catch up and learn about where life and his work has taken him before he landed at TU last July.  In this conversation, the Jenks graduate reflects on his time in Congress, including being in his capitol building office on 9/11. Brad discusses how politics have changed since he served. He talks about why he joined the Navy in 2008 and his work under President Obama running the Army. Brad also shares his thoughts on the college landscape, including NCAA sports, and his vision for TU.  Following our talk at the Press Club, hear a new song from Monica Taylor.  A Perkins, OK native, Monica Taylor’s musical roots are at The Farm, which is still the epicenter of Red Dirt Music. Her nickname, The Cimarron Songbird, was given to her by Jimmy LaFave and Bob Childers, thanks to her distinctive singing style and her home near the Cimarron River. She sings from the heart, telling stories of red dirt roads, home, fence posts, trains, and sharing her Cherokee Indian heritage as well as her Scottish roots. Monica’s new album Trains, Rivers and Trails, which includes the track you’re about to hear, is now available at  
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode we take the podcast on the road to the new Bob Dylan Center, 116 E. Reconciliation Way. See images from the grand opening event. Museum Director Steven Jenkins takes listeners on a tour of the two-story museum located in the Tulsa Arts District next door to the Woody Guthrie Center. He discusses the creation of the museum and shares insight into each of the exhibits that share the story of Bob Dylan and his career, to date. Following the tour hear the  song "Love Revolution" from Tom Skinner's Science Project, which released their album "First Set" on Horton Records on July 15. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode Libby Billings reflects on 14 years operating downtown restaurants. It started with a $30,000 bank loan in 2008 and a plan to serve puffy tacos, and now she owns the building Elote resides in. She discusses the current state of restaurants more than two years into the COVID-19 pandemic and reflects on her career path to date. Libby also talks about her efforts in revitalizing downtown Deco's District and how far it's come, plus more. Following that conversation, hear a new single from OKC-based hard rockers Sisteria, which is releasing their debut album Aug. 19 on Horton Records. Hear them live Sept. 23 at Vanguard in support of Rainbows are Free. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode, Mercury Lounge co-owner Bobby Dean Orcutt talks about how the music venue and bar responded to the COVID-19 pandemic and all the changes happening there this summer, including more patio space and more ticketed events. He talks about his family's history in Tulsa and how his upbringing led him down a path of a continuing musical journey.  Days before recording this conversation, he filed to run for city council. At the end of the conversation he explains why he has entered the race. Plus hear the single "Vegas Bomb" from CliffDiver, which is on the road this summer. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode, new Gathering Place Executive Director Julio Badin discusses taking on the job last August and what's in store this summer for one of the best parks in America. He also discusses Guthrie Green's role as it nears its 10th anniversary and what's to come with LowDown, the jazz club below Duet. In the second half, Badin also reflects on his time spent working at Disney Land and Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. Plus a new single from Nuns. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode Daniel McHenry breaks down what attendees can do at the inaugural Black Proud Festival, which is happening in the Tulsa Arts District from June 10-12.  McHenry is the founder of Black Queer Tulsa, which is a networking organization in its first year. He talks about launching the organization and its goals. In the second half of the conversation, McHenry, 27, shares his story of growing up in Tulsa as the son of a preacher and attending public school as he learned more about himself and turned to self-hate before accepting what he knew all along. He shares insight for others who are young and can relate to his life. Read more about him here. Following the conversation with McHenry, hear a new single from Tulsa's Cliffdiver. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode podcast producer Morgan Phillips sits in the guest seat as she and host Tim Landes bust open the mailbag to answer some questions they've received. It's PGA Championship week, the Bob Dylan Center is now open and there are lots more to talk about, including our favorite restaurants. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. It’s spring in Tulsa and all the events are back. There’s Mayfest this weekend, Iron Man returns, Black Wall Street Legacy Festival, and Southern Hills Country Club is hosting the PGA Championship for a record fifth time, which you can read all about in our May issue. While those events help draw people to Tulsa, many of our city’s young professionals will gather around the drawing board to come up with ideas to enhance a section of Tulsa going through a revitalization. On May 13-14 TYPROS annual community development event Street Cred: Outside the Loops returns with a focus on reimagining an area just outside of downtown and creatively strategizing development opportunities.  Andrea Pemberton, Executive Director of TYPROS, is here to discuss Street Cred and more on this episode. She’s worked for the organization for since 2018 and took over the helm in 2020, which means Andrea has guided TYPROS through the COVID-19 pandemic. TYPROS is an organization that’s lifeblood is people networking together in the same room. She discusses how they were able to go with the flow and adapt to continue their mission. It’s an interesting time for the organization. Since birth TYPROS has basically been a millennial club. Seventeen years later many of the millennials are aging out and the next generation of young professionals are growing. Andrea discusses what they’re seeing during this transition and what’s to come in the near future.  Tulsa is growing with people from all over the country relocating here. This includes Andrea. We discuss what the organization is seeing from programs like Tulsa Remote, and she talks about what brought her to Tulsa and why she’s such a big fan of the city. She’s also very civically engaged, so we talk about our shared passion for voting and why she’s so passionate about the electoral process. We also dive into her background on why she got an Anthropology degree at OU and how she’s used it throughout her career. We cover a lot of ground in this one. Following my conversation with Andrea, hear a new song from John Moreland. More on that later.  OK, let’s get this going. This is Tulsa Talks with Andrea Pemberton.  John Moreland is back with new music. That’s one of the best emails I’ve received recently. The Tulsan can write and sing a song like no other. He’s a rare talent and as you’ll hear in this song he continues to grow and showcase his skills.Ugly Faces, is the first single from his new album “Birds in the Ceiling” out July 22. You can preorder the album at There you can also check out his slate of nationwide tour dates starting in July. So far there are no Tulsa shows on the schedule, but there is an opening the first week of August between St. Louis and Santa Fe (hint, hint Cain’s Ballroom).  I’ll let John take it from here with “Ugly Faces”
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes, and I have loved the performing arts for as long as I can remember. My guest on this episode is Mark Frie, Tulsa Performing Arts Center’s CEO since 2017. As you can imagine the last couple of years have been tough on the theater industry, but things are looking up. He discusses how they’re bouncing back and gearing up for a big year of shows including Frozen and Oklahoma! (and it’s not your grandma’s version). Mark is a native Tulsan. His love of acting and singing has helped guide his career that has taken him to DFW, Boston, Broadway, then to Broken Arrow and finally back home to Tulsa. As someone who loves going to the theater, I was excited to learn more about his time in New York at Radio City Music Hall and what it’s like in that world. As you’ll hear my brain explodes when he tells me about what all can be seen at the NYC library. We talk about the evolution of performing arts and what upgrades are needed for the PAC that’s now 45 years old and how the nonprofit is devoting more energy on supporting numerous community organizations. We also discuss one of the most important questions theatergoers often ask: What should I wear to a show?I had a great time getting to know Mark and learning more about Tulsa PAC and all they great things happening there. Also, I absolutely love his idea you’ll soon hear about the need for a traveling theater company.Later on, I’ll share a groovy new single from Brad Absher and the Superials that I can’t stop playing. Before we dive into the conversation, I want to mention that we want to hear from you. For the second Tulsa Talks episode in May, we want to answer your questions about Tulsa. It can be anything Tulsa related. How tall is the Golden Driller? What is the best coney in town? Why are our streets named the way they are? Do you miss Crystal’s Pizza? Why do people say “on Brookside” when it’s not a street, but a neighborhood? Send us your questions to or Subject line: Mailbag. OK let’s get this going. This is Tulsa Talks with Mark Frie. Tulsa musician Brad Absher and his band, the Superials, release their debut album, "Tulsa Tea," on June 10 with a special show and crawfish boil at the legendary Cain’s Ballroom beginning at 7 PM. Billed as the NEUTRAL GROUND THROWDOWN, the show will also feature special guests Poppa Foster and the Grits and Little Joe McLerran. "Tulsa Tea" was produced by Chris Combs and recorded at Paradise Studio at Grand Lake in nearby Tijuana, Oklahoma, the studio founded and made famous by the legendary Leon Russell.The album will be released by Horton Records. I’ve included the preoder link. As well as a link for tickets to Neutral Ground Throwdown.And with that here is the single Be the Love.
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. In this month’s issue of TulsaPeople, we go green and talk a lot about farming, crops, and plants. This includes a story about Chef Nico Albert, a Cherokee Nation citizen, who recently launched her own business: Burning Cedar Indigenous Foods. Nico is really into foraging. She also takes part in Cherokee Nation’s Heirloom Seed program. The Cherokee Nation Seed Bank was founded in 2006 to preserve the genetic integrity of heirloom plants. Today, the Cherokee Nation Seed Bank distributes a select number of heirloom seeds to citizens annually, and it grows a reserve of seeds for future generations. Last year, more than 6,800 seed packets were distributed.  This year’s varieties include Cherokee tan pumpkin, Cherokee White Eagle corn, Trail of Tears beans, gourds and possum grapes. Seeds mostly come from the Cherokee Nation Heirloom Garden, sprawling nearly 3 acres just east of the Cherokee Nation Complex in Tahlequah.  Back to Nico. She’s originally from California and then raised in Arizona before a family move to Oklahoma reconnected her with her family’s tribal history. It was also shortly after relocating to Green Country, that Nico fell in love with the world of food and the local restaurant industry. In this conversation recorded in late March, Nico had just returned from our tribe’s homelands in North Carolina, so we begin with her recent travels and then rewind to learn how she got to where she is today. She discusses her journey in the restaurant scene and also how she’s reconnecting with her Cherokee roots.  I really enjoyed getting to know her through this conversation that we had to end before I could get much into the musical side of her life but listen at the end to hear about her next live performance. Following my conversation with Nico, hear a new single from Tulsa’s own Groucho. More on that later.  OK, let’s get this going.  This is Tulsa Talks with Nico Albert. ------In the mid 90s, my favorite phrase was “The truth is out there.” Of course my favorite show was The X-Files. I obsessed over it if we’re being honest. I also was really into alternative music. My love for both continues. All that to say I got really excited when I started listening to Groucho’s “The Truth is Out There. (Bob Lazar)” Bob also believes the truth is out there. He claims to know it actually. Anyway, back to the song. Groucho describes their music as “A ride for the mind in a bind” and this single is a perfect example. They let loose and take the listener on a rock n roll trip. This song feels like it time traveled three decades, and I’m here for it. I’m excited to hear the rest of the album when it drops later this year.  In the meantime, you can Groucho live: Apr 23 - Whittier Bar w/ North by NorthApr 30th w/Congress of a Crow (reunion) @ ShrineMay 21st @ Mercury LoungeMay 28th @ Juicemaker (Horton Records Residency)Check out more of their music on Bandcamp, Spotify and YouTube, plus follow them on Facebook and Instagram. 
Welcome to Tulsa Talks, presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes.  My guest on this episode is Kristin McQuaid, who has danced through life, and is now also exploring all the other opportunities that are out there for her YouTube series “Kickin it with Kristin.” Kristin is a lifelong entertainer. She started dancing when she was kid and quickly became a professional. She danced in a Prince video and was a lead dancer on Britney Spears’ Onyx Hotel Tour in 2004. She went from dancer to choreographer and in 2015, Kristin was honored to win the choreographer’s TV show Make A Move. Her work has been featured in TV commercials and campaigns for major brands. It's also been seen on So You Think You Can Dance and fan favorite, Dance Moms. Her choreography has gone viral with such talent as Dance Moms star Nia Sioux, 6-year-old online star Boss Baby Brody, and Nickelodeon’s sweetheart Jules Leblanc. During the early days of the pandemic, Kristin thought about her life’s work and wondered if there was something else out there that might speak to her. She’s since tried glassblowing, horseback riding, pottery and more.  I wrote about all of this for our March issue. The thing is we talked for over half an hour and 90% of the conversation didn’t make it into the article. By the time we were wrapping up, she had me even more excited to chase my own new creative adventures and see what happens. It’s not “What If, but when,” she reminded me.  So, before it ended I asked her if we could talk again for this podcast. She agreed, shut off Zoom and within hours was on a plane to Vegas to meet her new daughter.  When Kristin and I reconnected last week over Zoom, she was happy, but tired. That newborn life. We started chatting and the conversation started out heavier than last time we talked, but it's a very important topic that I knew little about before this conversation. Last year Kristin and her husband, Steve, started a nonprofit in honor of their daughter, London Quinn, who was stillborn at 39 weeks in July, 2021.  London is the Reason supports surrogates and their intended parents through infant loss and offers free resources and support groups to help both sides through their grieving process.  She is also the celebrity spokesperson for PUSH Pregnancy which aims to end preventable stillbirths. We discuss all she’s been through and learned and then we talk about season two of Kickin’ it With Kristin and how much Tulsa has changed for the better since she moved here a little over a decade ago, plus more. I can’t wait to check back in with her down the road and hear about what crazy fun she’s having for her series and in motherhood. Following my conversation with Kristin, hear new music from George Barton. More on that later.  Ok, Let’s get this going.  This is Tulsa Talks with Kristin McQuaid.  
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. This time last year it was an arctic tundra outside for weeks. The weather was so bad for so long, there was the implantation of an overflow shelter for those experiencing homelessness. That wasn’t enough. People experiencing homelessness were moved into any hotel that rooms available. That still wasn’t enough.  Next up, Housing Solutions Tulsa converted the old Wyndam Hotel on 41st to a Hotel to Housing program. It was a learning experience for the organization while helping save lives from the deadly weather.  Housing Solutions is a 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to building systems that make homelessness rare, brief and non-recurring in Tulsa.  My guests on this episode are Housing Solutions Executive Director Becky Gligo and Tyler Parette, Director of Outreach and Engagement. I’ve spent a lot of time talking to these two the last few years. I’ve written many stories on homelessness and taken part in the last two point-in-time counts, including the most recent one in late January.  As you’ll hear, the point in time count is an annual census that collects data, allowing Housing Solutions to see trends over time, while learning about those experiencing homelessness and what they need to get back on their feet. There will be more about this in our March issue along with a photo gallery with the online story.  For this conversation, I used it as a check-in to see where we are a year after that Frozen February and two years into a pandemic, which has increased the number of those experiencing homelessness.  I also used it as a way to ask common questions people often ask me about homelessness. One of the main questions I get is how can I help? In the show notes, I’ve linked Housing Solutions website where you can request an outreach and more.  As you’ll hear, we have a lot of work to do and it starts with affordable housing.  Following my conversation with Housing Solutions, listen to a song from Bandelier. More on that later.  OK, let’s get this going. This is Tulsa Talks with Housing Solutions.  In March, many Tulsa musicians will be returning to SXSW to showcase our local music scene. Bandelier will be among them. They'll be joining friends of the pod Steph Simon, Cassii Stephan and many more at Tulsa FMAC’s showcase in Austin on March 16. Speaking of Tulsa FMAC, they are relaunching their popular Play Tulsa Music program to help support local musicians and venues. You can read more it here.  As for Bandelier, it looks like we’re going to be getting a new record from them. You can get updates on their facebook page and website linked in the show notes. And in the meantime, here’s fan favorite: “Bison Bison.”  
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. President Barack Obama launched the My Brother’s Keeper Alliance in 2014 to build safe and supportive communities for boys and young men of color. Eight years later, under the purview of ImpactTulsa, Tulsa has accepted the My Brother’s Keeper challenge, with native Tulsan BerThaddaeus Bailey taking the lead.BerThaddaeus is my guest on this episode. That intro is from a short piece on him in our February issue, which is linked in the show notes. I'm thrilled we were able to bring that story to life with this conversation. I had never talked to BerThaddaeus before we chatted over zoom in late January. This is a young man with a sort of unique name, who is wise beyond his years. You’ll hear why I say sort of a unique name shortly. He’s also extremely passionate about helping people.  I had to remind myself throughout our conversation that he is still in his 20s. Of course when you hear the energy he brings to this conversation and his work drive it makes a bit more sense because he is a really busy person.  BerThaddaeus was raised in north Tulsa before going to OU and earning a bachelor's in political science followed by an MBA and MPA at the same time. He worked for the state as an analyst in health care and child support for a handful of years while living near OKC, but his new job has brought his focus back home.  He’s a community activist, nonprofit founder, policy analyst, a consultant and also a motivational speaker. I say it at the end of the conversation, and I’ll say it again here: BerThaddaeus is one to watch in the coming years. He’s really smart. He’s compassionate. He’s energetic. And he wants all of his neighbors to succeed.  Following my conversation with BerThaddaeus, hear a song from Pets. More on that later.  OK let’s get this going.  This is Tulsa Talks with BerThaddaeus Bailey. In our February issue, Julie Watson writes about a couple of musicians' side project that took off. Born in 2019 from a side project of Candy Fly bandmates Matt Baker and Chayton Burleson, Tulsa alternative rock band Pets. has grown into a five-piece ensemble that now includes Jordan Hodges, Michael Davis and Nathan Hairston.  Like many other creatives, the pandemic meant lots of time for Pets. to make new music. The band has recently started releasing those quarantine-created singles to a rapidly expanding fan base.   Including this one. Here is Pets. with "Seeing Stars."
Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes and the digital editor here at TulsaPeople Magazine. Before we get into the new episode, I wanted to let you know that on we have original content almost every day of the week. There are the Oklahoma Best Sellers lists on Sundays, Tulsa music listings every Monday afternoon (that’s where you can find out what bands are playing where on what day all in one place), Wednesdays are for this podcast and About Town mini episodes. On Thursdays arts editor Blayklee Freed shares her 10 things to do in Tulsa for the week. Then also the third week we have Fab Finds. Oh, and we cover a lot of events, so there are tons of photo galleries like this week’s MLK Day Parade. You can find all this content on our social media channels and at  Speaking of stories you can read on our site, in our January issue we have an article about the different ways and places you can workout in town. Megan Harlan, my guest on this episode, operates Pure Barre South Tulsa at 89th and Yale, and Row House at 61st and Yale.  I was ready to learn more about Pure Barre when she and I talked in late December. I had seen a story a while back about the creator of Barre and knew its roots were in ballet, but I had a lot of questions. Among them, what’s the difference between Barre and Pure Barre? Also do men participate in the classes? Megan breaks it all down. She was the first person to open a Pure Barre in the state nearly a decade ago, so she has a lot of knowledge and experience.  We also discuss the ins and outs of Row House South Tulsa, and by the end of the conversation I was ready to drive over and get on a row machine. I didn’t. I ate a Bill and Ruth’s sandwich instead (support our local restaurants), but I am going to make it down there.  Following my conversation with Megan, musical quadruple threat Casii Stephan is back with another single. More on that later.  OK, Let’s get this going.  This is Tulsa Talks with Megan Harlan.  Casii Stephan is one of my favorite local artists. There are her lyrics, her vocals, the piano playing, her energy. If you haven't already, after you listen to this song, go look up any of her live performances or music videos on YouTube.  In fact, the video for “These Hard Days” was an Oniros Awards Finalist. Also, Casii was named a 2022 artist to watch by NPR Music.  I interviewed her last March at the time of the release of her single “Here Comes the Light,” and she mentioned she was working on the song you're about to hear: And with that here is Casii Stephan’s “These Hard Days.” 
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