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Out of the Blue

Out of the Blue

Author: Faculty of Industrial Design Engineering

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If you’re interested in how a sustainable design professor got mixed up in a global-scale lawsuit between tech giants Samsung and Apple, this podcast is for you. Want to know why innovating is so hard, and why there is no campus radio in Delft? Join our very own Ianus Keller, Teacher of Practice at Delft University of Technology, and listen to the stories of our designers, researchers and teachers.
19 Episodes
How do you know if an idea is good? Is it a hunch, a gut feeling? Or can you learn to systematically recognise good ideas and move them further to make them work? In this episode, we talk with Jeroen van Erp, Professor of Concept Design at TU Delft and founder of influential Dutch design agency Fabrique. About ad agencies, how to learn design, and plastic soup. You’re not allowed to leave the podcast without at least 10 new ideas! References in this episode: - Museum Voorlinden: - Later… with Jools Holland (BBC2): - Book: Is it good enough? – Jeroen van Erp:
There is no universal design. Everyday objects and services that work in some parts of the world, are totally different somewhere else. Annemiek van Boeijen, assistant-professor Design, Culture & Society, argues for design creativity, context and richness in her new book Culture Sensitive Design. We’re also joined by special guest Timo de Rijk, Director of the Design Museum in Den Bosch, to discuss culture, design history and the stupidity of efficiency. References in this episodes: Culture Sensitive Design: a Guide to Culture in Practice  Chen Hao – Cultura Victor Papanek – The Politics of Design The Story of the Weeping Camel Rag Mask
Working from home provides us with a whole new set of challenges and opportunities. As designers, shouldn’t we be the best equipped people for this? In this final part of our special Freedive isolation series, Ianus chats with Joost Dommisse. He studies Integrated Product Design and they together talk about designing noise-cancelling windows, how to study design from a distance and wacky robotic giraffes. References in this episode: NY Times – No Knead Bread: Jimu Robot – resale: Ze Frank – True Facts: the Wacky Giraffe:
How are you doing? A question we should ask ourselves and each other frequently in this isolation period. And we should listen carefully. In part two of our special three-part Freedive isolation series, Ianus chats with Sofie Dideriksen. She is part of the TU Delft Design for Interaction community Infuse, and they talk about design for mental health and student life in isolation. References in this episode: Noah Kalina – Travel around the world with public  webcams Dr. Jeffrey VanWinger - PSA Grocery Shopping Tips in COVID-19   Vision in Product Design: the ViP method
Due to COVID-19, design students, lecturers and researchers are stuck at home. How are they coping? For part one of a special three-part Freedive series, we talk with Yongqing Fei, or Jackie as we know her. She has a lot of experiences with quarantines and tells about redesigning an oven from home and her story on moving from isolation in China to isolation in Delft. References in this episode Gary Hustwit – Oh you pretty things   The Mask Dilemma Black Mirror – Netflix
Material science is often a black box for designers. But in Delft Design, knowledge on material properties is essential. Erik Tempelman has literally written the book on it: “(Not) Safe for Designers”. He talks with Ianus Keller about the surprising journeys of material properties, how the Pixar character Anton Ego inspires him and explores the meaning of the Dutch word ‘stevig’. References in this episode: Cube Houses by Piet Blom NSFD: engineering essays on structures & materials Anton Ego of Pixar’s Ratatouille Lightyear One
From fat shaming to self-acceptance. Join Ianus in a conversation designed for taboo topics as weight and mental health. He talks with IDE alumna Sam van Eijk about her graduation project Big Fat Nonsense. References in this episode: Dikke Onzin Lizzo Gamechangers Sofie Hagen – You can be fat and happy – TED Talk
Industrial Designer Engineering researcher Willemijn Elkhuizen is on a mission to discover the perfect 3D-scan and print of paintings. Ianus Keller talks with Willemijn in her lab-slash-atelier on improving restauration and preservation of important art, and democratising our art-experience. What if everybody could hang a perfect copy of Vermeer’s ‘Girl with the Pearl Earring’ on their wall? References in this episode: Tom Standage – The Victorian Internet  Laura Snyder - Eye of the Beholder  TU Delft Heritage Collection
Finnish designer and researcher Marco Steinberg was recently granted an honorary doctorate by TU Delft for his outstanding work in strategic design. We invited him the day before this momentous event to talk together with professor Peter Lloyd and host Frithjof Wegener about strategic design, the opposite of death by 1000 cuts and how to make the shiny thing happen. References in this episode: Marco Steinberg – Thank you! Snowcone & Haystack Sitra
IDE researcher Frithjof Wegener joins Ianus Keller for the second Freedive at the IDE 50 years jubilee, where they converse with Kevin Shahbazi on how to implement true circularity in large companies such as Philips, and Kevin’s plans for sustainability with Board of Innovation. References in this episode: Conny Bakker & Marcel den Hoorn – Products that last Harvard Business Review Board of Innovation – Free innovation tools
In the first Freedive Ianus Keller speaks with Hester Le Riche at the IDE 50 years jubilee event. She’s CEO and co-founder of Active Cues on how to design for quality of life in healthcare. Their Magic Table augmented reality product allows people with Alzheimer to re-connect with their families and each other in care homes. References in this episode: Active Cues – Magic Table Museum Voorlinden
For a very special episode, we speak with world renowned design researcher Donald Norman (UC San Diego). Together with Frederik Ueberschär and Caisael Beardow of the MSc study association Infuse, he talks about why he believes Industrial Design Engineering in Delft is the best design school in the world, why he likes being wrong and how power comes from the “But…” References in this episode: Vanity Fair –Lawrence Sher Klaus Krippendorff – The Semantic Turn Nathan Shedroff & Christopher Noessel - Make it so
In the middle of Departure Hall 3 of Schiphol Amsterdam Airport, we talk with Professor Sicco Santema. He researches people in transit, through cooperation with large players in the field of mobility and travel, such as Schiphol Airport, KLM and Amsterdam RAI. He talks about why failure is good, if travelling is the new smoking, and how we can design mobility as something bigger than just your destination.   References in this episode: PASSME project ( Schiphol & Delft University of Technology join forces (
How do you observe people to improve your design? In the latest IDE podcast episode, we take a deep dive into the world of context mapping with Froukje Sleeswijk Visser. She pioneered this design research methodology as a way of gaining insight into the user of future designs. Listen to Froukje and you will never look at the colour of your Wi-Fi router in the same way. Also in this episode: Ianus exercises some demons about his secret childhood hatred for skating. Reference in this episode: Gorogoa (videogame): Kitchen Stories (movie):
As a former aerospace engineer, Bas Flipsen is a passionate lecturer at IDE and former Academic Director of the Delft Teaching Academy. Ianus Keller met up with him in the Teaching Lab, the on-campus educational development hub and common room for teachers of TU Delft, to discuss the bible of airplane design, why summer holidays are bad, and his little disagreement with Apple on home-repairs of their products.  References in this episode: Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic – Storytelling with Data: Trailblazers podcast: Bas Flipsen: Good Teaching in Less Time (lunch lecture):
In honour of her inauguration as professor in Design Methodology for Sustainability & Circular Economy,  Ianus Keller talks with Conny Bakker about the Champions League of sustainable design, digging for world views, why the dinosaurs have had their time and dancing with systems. References in this episode: Stephen Gould: Donella H. Meadows - Thinking in systems: Notion:
In November 2018, we took the IDE stories podcast Out of the Blue to Eindhoven for Dutch Design Week. Ianus spoke with Elif Özcan-Vieira, director of the Critical Alarms Design Lab, about her research into beautiful alarms for hospital ICU’s, the lack of campus radio in Delft and skydiving in Virtual Reality. 
Ruth Mugge, Professor of Design for Sustainable Consumer Behaviour, talks with Ianus Keller about her design research. About research for vegetable company HAK, washing machine design, customisation and sustainability, and how her research got her involved in a big legal case between Apple and Samsung. References in this episode: Samsung v. Apple Amicus Brief Jonathan Chapman – Handbook of Sustainable Product Design The Bridge/Bron/Broen 99% Invisible --
Jasper van Kuijk, assistant-professor of User-Centered Innovation, tells Ianus Keller about designing coloured TV-lighting, public transportation ticketing systems, and why you should not let designers do their thing. References in this episode: Expertise Centre for E-ticketing in Public Transport Abstract: the Art of Design Ken Kocienda - Creative Selection --
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