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In this episode, I speak with photographers Erik Stensland and Scott Bacon with Nature First. Nature First advocates for responsible photography of our public lands and wild places through education and community. We discuss their background, the genesis of Nature First, their seven principles, photography ethics, cultural values towards nature, influencers and social media and steering public behavior. There has never been a more important time to be having these sorts of conversations. Our public lands are more important than any of us individually and I think when we can accept this truth, our collective actions will reflect this sentiment. Thanks for listening. Please visit www.naturefirst.orgErik's Website:'s Website: Page: the show (
In this episode, I speak with Liz Gottlieb from Marin Academy and the Bay Area Blended Consortium about her new Wilderness Studies course for high school students. This is a unique offering for students to learn about wilderness ethics and history in the classroom and to immerse themselves in the backcountry to gain real world experience. We talk about Liz's background, teaching philosophy, her student's experiences and in-depth detail about her course. To learn more about the Bay Area Blended Consortium please visit the show (
In this episode I speak with Shelby Perry, the Stewardship Director with the Northeast Wilderness Trust. We talk about the history and mission of the Northeast Wilderness Trust, where and how they operate, Shelby's career trajectory, how wilderness protection on private land serves as a conservation model in New England, landscape corridor ecology, importance of biodiversity and climate change considerations for wildlife habitat protection. To learn more about the Northeast Wilderness Trust please visit www.newildernesstrust.orgPlease listen to this episode and subscribe to Wilderness Podcast using your favorite app to catch new releases. the show (
"The Wilderness Society was formed because the founders felt that other conservation groups were compromising too much and giving up too much good wilderness. Bob Marshall said we want no stragglers, fence sitters and those whos first instinct is to compromise. The irony is that the Wilderness Society has become one of those organizations today. I just feel that Aldo Leopold and Olaus Murie would be rolling in their graves.” - George Wuerthner on Wilderness Podcast In this episode I have a sit-down conversation with long-time wilderness and public lands advocate George Wuerthner. His articles appear in publications across the country. He has published thirty eight books on wild lands and relate issues. George is the owner of Public Lands Media, a non-profit that disseminates science in digestible form and advocates for best environmental practices on public lands such as fire, timber and predator management. George has been instrumental in wilderness campaigns across the country since the 1980s. George is one of our foremost, most passionate wilderness advocates alive today. We discuss his early years, career trajectory, working with Doug Thompkins (founder of the North Face), best practices for logging and fire management, what forest resiliency actually looks like, insights into the working of Forest Service timber sales, criticisms of modern conservation collaboratives, The Gallatin Range near Bozeman, MT, Wilderness history, political examples of successful long-shot wilderness campaigns and criticism of the how the Wilderness Society and other conservation groups are operating in Montana and across the country.  Support the show (
In part two of “Trouble in the Tongass” I speak with Andrew Thoms, Executive Director of the Sitka Conservation Society. We discuss all of the things that make the Tongass special, the local economy of Southeast Alaska, the Roadless Rule, the consequences of logging the remaining old growth forests and the threats to subsistence living. The old growth forests of the Tongass sustain more than can be properly articulated and expressed in this short miniseries. Their value is priceless. As ecosystems collapse around the globe, we cannot afford to continue on our current path of destruction. The familiar forces of greed and shortsightedness are at work. The Tongass belongs to all of us, not the select few multi-national corporations that seek to capitalize on its lumber. Not to mention that rights that we have failed to properly extend to the plants and animals that which we share the Earth. The biota of the Tongass is world-renowned and worth saving on its own merit. The Roadless Rule is the glue that is keeping the Tongass ecosystem intact while providing flexibility to construct roads for communities and allowing native and local peoples to harvest food from the land and rivers. Ideally, wilderness designations would best protect these forests from logging interests, but wide scale implementation would work against the sustenance needs of local communities. The draft environmental impact statement has been released regarding the Roadless Rule Please, take a moment from your busy day and write in your comments to the USDA. Tell them to keep the Roadless Rule in place for the Tongass National Forest (alternative one). The email address is Alternatively, please use Sitka Conservation Society's commenting tool here Draft EIS can be found here. you have not checked out part one of this series with Dan Cannon from the Southeast Alaska Conservation Council, I encourage you to have a listen for a more complete picture of what is happening in the Tongass. Thanks for listening.Support the show (
In this episode, I speak with Dan Cannon, Tongass Forest Program Manager with the Southeast Alaska Conservation Council. We discuss proposed old growth logging, the Roadless Rule, the importance of the Tongass and some of the politics surrounding the issues. In the next episode, I will speak with Andrew Thoms, the Executive Director with the Sitka Conservation Society where we will go into greater detail on the resource and what logging would mean for the local economy. Add this saga to the growing list of attacks on our public lands where local and national consensus is ignored and multi-national corporation's interests are being served. Never mind the harm and trauma to Native American tribes living in the region who depend on the land for their subsistence. Americans everywhere should be outraged. Extractor's wish lists are being given top priority. Since interviewing Dan, the USDA has released their long awaited draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Tongass on October 15th. There are six alternatives. The first alternative leaves the Roadless Rule in place. The other five involve the logging of old growth forest with increasing levels of eligible take at each step. Alternative two would convert 18,000 acres of old growth to suitable timberland. Once you get up to Alternative Six (the option Trump is advocating for) all 9.2 million acres of existing designated roadless areas would be converted to timberland, exposing 165,000 acres of old growth to logging. Americans everywhere should be outraged. You can submit your comments here Please tell the USFS to keep the Roadless Rule in place for the Tongass (Alternative One). Comments are due by December 17th, 2019. Thanks for listening. Draft EIS the show (
For the final episode of my 2019 Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem miniseries, I interview Joe Scalia with the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance. Joe and his new organization have formed to provide an alternative voice for the Gallatin Range and surrounding wildlands in Montana. They are advocating for the full 250,000 acres of roadless area in the Gallatin Mountain Range to be designated as federally protected wilderness (most closely aligned with alternative D in the recently revised Forest Service Management Plan) and are opposed to the Gallatin Forest Partnership and their compromise-based approach where they are working in conjunction with timber, mountain biking and snowmobiling interests. The Gallatin Forest Partnership is advocating for about 100,000 acres as recommended wilderness. In case you missed the last episode with Scott Brennan from The Wilderness Society (a member of the Gallatin Forest Partnership), I encourage you to have a listen to get a more complete picture. Joe and I talk about mental health, his experience as a psychoanalyst, his love for wilderness, neo-capitalism and its grip on the modern wilderness and environmental movement, The Big Greens, wilderness protection philosophy for the modern age, the importance of the Gallatin Mountain Range and his organization, the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance where they are laying out a new bold vision for wilderness in the northern Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. To learn more about his organization, please visit I had an interesting conversation with Joe deep in the Abosoroka-Beartooth Wilderness. I hope you enjoy the episode!Support the show (
In this episode, I interview Scott Brennan, director of the the Montana office of The Wilderness Society. We discuss The Wilderness Society's compromise-based approach to new wilderness protection and the Blackfoot Clearwater Stewardship Act. We also zero in on the Gallatin Forest Partnership, a collaborative conservation plan for the Gallatin Range that stretches north from the flanks of Yellowstone National Park to the Bridger Mountains outside of Bozeman; this partnership is building coalitions among special interest groups including ranchers and mountain bikers. This is the first of two interviews about the future of the Gallatin Range, as many people and organizations seek to protect this ecosystem and have diverse opinions and approaches on what land protection should look like. Please stay tuned for my next episode for an alternative take, where I interview Joe Scalia with the newly formed Yellowstone Gallatin Conservation Alliance. This group is advocating for a no-compromise stance on wilderness protection in the Gallatin Range. I hope you enjoy this episode. I had a great time meeting with Scott and learning about The Wilderness Society's approach to conservation. Thanks for listening. http://www.wildernesspodcast.comSupport the show (
In this episode, I interview Sarah Walker with Friends of Bridger-Teton National Forest. We discuss the increase in visitation numbers to Greater Yellowstone and surrounding National Forest Land including wilderness areas and what that means for land managers and conservation groups trying to protect wildlife and minimize human impacts. We discuss leave no trace ethics, the differences between primitive and dispersed camping, what you can do when visiting our public lands to be a better steward, the Continental Divide Trail, off highway vehicle use and more. Please visit to learn more about her organization and how you can support them and get involved. Support the show (
In this episode, I have a conversation with Beverly Smith, Vice President of Volunteer Operations with Trout Unlimited (TU). We discuss the importance of the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem and its native trout species, how to best care for fish when catching them, working with volunteers around the country, the effects of climate change on trout and salmon populations, Cutthroat conservation on Yellowstone Lake, the work that TU does across the country and the conservation efforts done locally on behalf of Jackson area fish populations. For more information, please visit Support the show (
This is the introductory episode for a miniseries that I am putting together during my 2019 trip to the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. I will be interviewing dedicated folks around the region who are working to protect this amazing resource through various conservation and preservation efforts. Please stay tuned for the first episode in the series which I will be releasing in about a week and a half. Support the show (
Under a new proposal, the United States Forest Service (USFS) is seeking to do away with 98% of the cases where the public would be able to comment and participate in project (timber harvesting, road building, etc.) scoping and design under the National Environmental Policy Act or NEPA. NEPA is not well understood and something we often take for granted; but it is absolutely critical. It is the means by which the public and conservation groups provide input and oversight to our federal land managers. We must maintain a properly functioning NEPA so we are not kept in the dark and to ensure that Forest Service lands are being managed for the greatest public benefit.In this episode, I speak with Mary O'Brien of the Grand Canyon Trust for clarity and context. *** Please make your voice heard! Head on over to Deadline is August 12th. Tell the Forest Service that you value NEPA and it must not be compromised.***Support the show (
Interview with Matt Mikkelsen of Quiet Parks International (QPI). We discuss the importance of quiet for both humans and animals, Gordon Hempton's work, One Square Inch of Silence, noise pollution in Olympic National Park from military fighter jets, the work that QPI is doing domestically and abroad and a little about Matt and his conservation-based film company Spruce Tone Films. the show (
Interview with J. Baird Callicott, environmental philosopher. We discuss Baird's early years, the Civil Rights Movement in Memphis, the first Earth Day in Wisconsin, the Received Wilderness Idea, wilderness philosophy, thinkers of the Enlightenment, Aldo Leopold, grazing on public lands, societal shifts in public attitude about wilderness and global threats concerning climate change. the show (
Conversation with Paul Doherty with the National Alliance for Public Safety GIS. Paul and I chat about a wide range of topics related to his life and career from his time as a law enforcement ranger and search and rescue operator in Yosemite National Park, detecting illegal marijuana grows in Yosemite, public safety Geographic Information Systems (GIS), what it was like growing up in the Bronx, his graduate and undergraduate years and how to be best prepared when heading into the backcountry.Support the show (
In this episode, I speak with Dan Hartinger of The Wilderness Society for the national perspective on Bears Ears National Monument. the show (
Two-part series on Bears Ears National Monument. Interview with Josh Ewing of Friends of Cedar Mesa for the local perspective on Bears Ears National Monument. the show (
Interview with breakaway Instagram account @PublicLandsHateYou. We talk about his motivations and intent behind calling people out on social media for setting poor examples and the resulting societal and environmental consequences. the show (
In this episode, I interview Joe Dadey, Executive Director with Adirondack Hamlets To Huts. We talk about their new hut system, a first in the Adirondack Park.Support the show (
In this episode of Wilderness Podcast, I interview the "father of environmental history" writer and historian Roderick Frazier Nash. We discuss his life, the concept of wilderness, Bob Marshall, Aldo Leopold, Island Civilization and more. the show (
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