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Author: Gretchen Gagel

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The podcast where the world's leading thinkers share their ideas about how to create greatness. Great leaders, great teams and great organizations. Why be good when you can be great!
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Are you viewed as a "doer" or a "strategic thinker"? Being a "doer", someone that is capable of executing with excellence, is important. Adding the ability to think strategically, being viewed as a strategic thinker by those around you, is also critical in most contexts. I loved having Brenda Steinberg, leadership consultant and executive coach, on the Greatness Podcast to discuss how we can not only sharpen our strategic thinking skills, but also ensure that we are communicating with others in a way that helps them understand our strategic capabilities. As a gifted coach, Brenda also shares her thoughts on being coached effectively - how to be in the right mindset and how to be open to experimentation.
Have you ever felt betrayed? Maybe something happens with a colleague at work? Or in a personal relationship? I feel so fortunate to have met Dr. Beth Hedva, author of Betrayal, Trust, and Forgiveness, who joined the Greatness Podcast to share her wisdom on the topic. Beth talks about how we shift from "why did this happen to me?" to "how can I grow from this experience?" and shares her TRUST model for moving from feelings of betrayal to an ability to trust again. Beth's insights are remarkable.
My good friend Suzanne Arkel is a remarkable woman who has devoted her 25 year career to driving inclusivity in large construction programs. I asked Suzanne, who identifies as African American, to rate the inclusivity of the construction industry on a scale of 1 (low) to 4 (high), and I appreciate her answer - "It's a two-and-a-half . . . if there were no specification or contractual requirements, it would be a zero . . . ". Suzanne shares her insights on how we can all help small business and underrepresented communities thrive in our industry. 
I have a deep appreciation for people who immigrate from one country to another. I've learned, it's hard! I can't imagine doing it as a 17-year-old who doesn't speak the language. Laura Miranda joined the Greatness Podcast to share her journey from Columbia to Australia and how that led her to a two-year technical degree and to co-founding the podcast called "You Don't Look Like an Engineer". I am always grateful for the opportunity to meet people like Laura who step up as leaders to improve our industry. Laura's story is remarkable, wise beyond her years with incredible insights to share with us. I also encourage you to listen to Laura and her co-founder Sohan Roopra on their podcast as they share remarkable stories that help us understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in the construction industry. 
Women lifting up other women in the construction industry is critical to our efforts to be a more inclusive industry. As part of my journey of making new construction industry friends in Kansas City I met the amazing Erica Jones, Vice President of MMC Corporation and Founder of On The Rise. This incredible program elevates women in the construction industry during a half-day workshop. Erica is a wonderful example of someone who beyond leading marketing for a $1.2 billion company also steps up as a volunteer to lead change in our industry. Erica joined the Greatness Podcast to share many examples of how to support the success of women and minorities, intentionally, in our industry; and also shares her success in building the marketing team for MMC as the organization grew from $300 million to their current size. Her advice to women - be advocates for other women, lift women up, be a mentor, pay it forward. Let's embrace that we bring different things to the table - it makes every organization better.
I strongly encourage those of you in the construction industry (all genders) to join myself and five other amazing construction industry podcasters for the free inaugural Women in Construction Week Audio Summit 2024! Join creator Barb Allen and myself for a preview of the Audio Summit on the Greatness podcast and sign up here - https://constructionbarb.ck.page/8c2e8cf8f1. I'll be talking about unconscious bias, a favorite topic. 
Bill Proudman co-founded White Men as Full Diversity Partners (WMFDP) 30 years ago to work with leaders at the intersection of equity and inclusion - helping leaders be the stewards of an inclusive culture with courage, consciousness, and competency. Bill is a white man who had the courage to "follow his heart" three decades ago when he realized that a "whole bunch of people around the globe were having a very different experience than I was" and these differences were not "out there", they were important to him. WMFDP works with leaders on creating a culture where people feel they belong - feel seen, connected, proud, and supported. This isn't about attacking or criticizing white men. "This isn't a blame and shame game". It's a system where certain people have "systemic unearned benefits" and we as leaders need to be present to that in working towards inclusion. 
Have you ever experienced a man apologizing for an all-male panel at a conference? Five years ago while attending my first Australian Pipelines and Gas (APGA) Conference in Darwin I saw APGA CEO Steve Davies do just that. Steve was so proud of the fact that he had convinced many of the industry's top leaders to come to Darwin for a senior leader panel, and then it sank in - no woman. And Steve said that on stage - I'm embarrassed that there isn't a woman on this panel and we, as an industry, can do better.Steve's courageous statement created the spark for my work with APGA to develop the Women's Leadership Development Program modeled after a similar program at the American Gas Association. Our first cohort sold out in 24hrs, and as Steve says, ". . . women in the industry were crying out for something that was targeted at them and their experience in the industry." Our purpose - to retain women in the pipeline industry and provide them with the skills they need to continue to advance their careers.Seven cohorts and 175 women later the outcomes of the program make my heart sing. One participant told me that after 10 years of a stalled career she's had two promotions in two years, and 90% of the participants report an increase in confidence. Steve also comments in the podcast that the program has inspired member companies to pay more attention to and place greater value on inclusion.
Have you ever had someone who saw more in you than you did in yourself? Or been told you're not thinking big enough, aiming high enough with your aspirations? Many people experience these feelings, including many of the women I speak with in various industries. Lisa Mednick Takami joined the Greatness Podcast to share her amazing research and associated book, Women in the Higher Education C-Suite: Diverse Executive Profiles. Through her interviews with senior women leaders in higher education, Lisa gained tremendous insights into the skills necessary - emotional intelligence, political savviness, etc. - to achieve executive positions. These learning are important and transferable to many industries
My good friend Denise Burgess, a tremendous leader in the construction industry and recent inductee into the National Academy of Construction, joined the Greatness Podcast to talk about her 30-year journey as an African American woman in the industry. Denise candidly shares her experience of frequently being the only woman of color in the room. "Oh, did your dad just send you here to take the notes?". Denise shares a deeply personal story about the "personal assault" of a less-than-flattering story in the Denver Post and the ensuing 1200 audits of her project that found no wrongdoing, a powerful story of resilience and staying grounded in your values. I can empathize with Denise's experience as constantly having to prove herself, and appreciate her story of one group saying that they thought "Dennis" was showing up and asking Denise if she needed to call someone to negotiate the contract. Why is it important for you to listen to this podcast regardless of your industry? Because listening to different people's experiences creates empathy and exposes us to the unconscious bias we ALL have. Two of the many pieces of advice Denise shares - "be true to yourself" and "really hear people" - and great stories of allyship.
What distinguishes a great coach from a good coach, either as a professional or as a leader coaching your team? David Goldsmith, Co-founder of the International Coaching Federation and iconic pillar of the executive coaching profession, joined the Greatness podcast to share his invaluable insights on this topic. Key nuggets - how are you, as a coach/leader, curious and asking the right questions that allow your people to solve problems for themselves? How do you walk away from coaching individuals with them clearly in action? Another great insight - how do you, as a person, move within the "eye of the storm", not in it.Coaching is about movement and progress, helping people find clarity and prioritize their time and energy. It's about creating space to be thoughtful and to focus upon YOU and your development. I'm grateful to the people who coach me and the people who give me the gift of coaching them. 
What keeps us in the game - be it life or work? We all know leaders that continue to be curious and "in the game" throughout their lives, but what is it that drives that ongoing curiosity? Dr. Pamela Meyer's latest book, Staying in the Game: Leading and Learning with Agility for a Dynamic Future explores "embodied agile leadership".. According to Pamela, an agile leader is engaged with their whole selves, open to surprise, and continuing to learn new information with a mindset of adaptation.These leaders don't have "death grip on the original plan". Instead they are "responsive versus reactive" and slow down to go fast.
Do you know what the number one micro-aggression against women is in the workplace? Being talked over. Believe me, I have experienced and witnessed it all too often.So what can we all do about this? How do we actively advocate for underrepresented people at work and make them feel included? Many of us understand that inclusion is important, but how do we use our privilege, be that the colour of our skin or our leadership position, to advocate for the under-represented?My friend Jeffery Tobias Halter joined the Greatness podcast to discuss "active male engagement in advancing women" and advocacy for all underrepresented groups. As Jeffery states, men are 75% of leadership in most companies and are 75% of the solution in advancing women and underrepresented groups. Jeffery started his organization 15 years ago because he realized men may want to help but don't know what to do on a daily basis. One of Jeffery's suggestions - go out and ask someone who is different from you about their lived experience at work. Have a "listening conversation". It may feel uncomfortable, but these conversations are critical to creating understanding and empathy.Another suggestion - download this podcast and listen to it in a team meeting; then have the conversation.Jeffery has many free tools on his website - https://ywomen.biz/free-tools/ - and I would encourage each of you to check these out!
We spend a great deal of time helping leaders understand how to help employees trust them. But what happens when we as leaders lose trust in an employee? How do we understand the source of the breakdown of trust and the steps to repair it? As Dina Denham Smith describes in her HBR article and as a guest on the Greatness podcast, this breakdown in trust can lead to less delegation, micromanagement, and stress. Dina's "three C's" - competency, consistency, and character - are research-based and quite helpful. Dina shares wonderful tips on how to diagnose each specific situation and how to rebuild trust or make the decision to end the relationship. One key question - "How big is that breach?"
It's so fun to find amazing women who share my passion for the construction industry. As I "co-locate" back to my home town of Kansas City after 40 years it's been fun to meet leaders there in the construction industry. Brandy McCombs, the first female Chair of The Builders, a chapter of AGC in Kansas City, joined the Greatness podcast to share her experiences as a leader in the construction industry. Brandy is an inspiration and I'm confident you'll appreciate her insights.
What are your superpowers? Rebecca Saunders joined the greatness podcast to discuss her work in creating a global network of women business owners to feel connected and supported. Rebecca's personal experience as someone with alopecia who spent years covering this up versus owning herself inspires her work. She is bald and beautiful! As she says, "Be you, don't overthink it"! Most of us bow to societal pressures to conform in some way. Living the authentic versions of ourselves, "unleashing ourselves into the world", that is the magic.
I have so much admiration for my good friend Bobbi Mahlab for starting not-for-profit Mentor Walks, a brilliant model that connects mentors and mentees once a month for an hour-long "walk and talk'' in many cities throughout the world. I have participated for years here in Australia and love it because the program is curated to match me as a mentor with 1-to-3 mentees that expressly want to discuss topics relevant to me. Bobbi is continuing to expand the program globally with the support of their generous corporate sponsors. 
Systems thinking and sustainability are big topics today, and Shaun Deverson, founder of Lighthouse Futures, brought his brilliant thinking on these topics to the Greatness Podcast. Nature-base solutions and "balance" - how are we continuing to evolve our thinking, as global leaders, to focus upon our stewardship of the planet? Leveraging ancient thinking, taking an anthropological approach, asking the right questions, having the humility as leaders to be more open minded, these are some of the topics we cover. Shaun shares concrete tips for leaders like the ancient concept of "agora".
"Any business plan created before 2020 is obsolete." This is the post by my friend Ted Souder, former Google Executive and Global Digital Transformation Expert, that prompted me to invite him onto the Greatness podcast to discuss the future of digital transformation. Ted recommends having a "digital mindset", thinking as a company about how to have a "modern approach to leadership" and a "test and learn mentality". First steps to developing a "digital mindset"? Ted shares many concrete ideas for Boards and leaders, ideas like creating a digital innovation lab and a digital investment plan.
Are you intimidated by ChatGPT? I am! So I invited Donna McGeorge, author of The ChatGPT Revolution, to the Greatness podcast to help me, and you, understand what Chat GPT can do for us. "Charlie", as Donna calls her ChatGPT, can do many wonderful things, like putting together a meal plan for the week including recipes and an ingredient list, or writing the first draft of a letter to get you started. Donna describes ChatGPT as "an eager intern with a hangover" and you have to check their work, and it is here to stay. There is a reason this book is on the bestseller list as it is a great starting point for understanding how AI can help us in practical ways.
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