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This is thank you, next: a conversation about race, gender, and being in our 20s. Co-hosted by Jalynn Baker and Sarah O'Leary.
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2020--extended

2020--extended

2020-12-3146:38

in this episode, sarah and jalynn reflect on the wild ups and downs of 2020. they share about navigating job changes and mental wellness in a pandemic and social/racial unrest. they also talk about new restful practices in their lives, cats, music, and the freedom and joy in letting go. stick around afterwards to hear about their favorite things from 2020! SHOW NOTES: Sarah's Art: Starlight Studio Maverick City Music  Justice for Breonna Taylor Girl Trek’s Black History Bootcamp: Mamie Till-Mobley Queen of Katwe (2016 release)  Little Women (2019)  They Gotta Have Us (2018)  The Lively Show podcast - episode #338: An Inner Voice Conversation on Race with Nicole Perkins, An Inner Voice Facilitator of Color  Pass the Mic podcast - Dealing with Resentment  Her with Amena Brown podcast - episode 43: Bonus Episode—Native Virtual Book Tour with Kaitlin Curtice  Never Have I Ever  Jalynn’s Quarantine Meals  The Power of Now - Eckhart Tolle  Unorthodox - Deborah Feldman  Educated - Tara Westover  The Book of Unknown Americans - Cristina Hernandez  Be the Bridge - Latasha Morrison
2020

2020

2020-12-3125:00

in this episode, sarah and jalynn reflect on the wild ups and downs of 2020. they share about navigating job changes and mental wellness in a pandemic and social/racial unrest. they also talk about new restful practices in their lives, cats, music, and the freedom and joy in letting go.   SHOW NOTES:  Sarah's Art: Starlight Studio  Maverick City Music  Justice for Breonna Taylor  Girl Trek’s Black History Bootcamp: Mamie Till-Mobley
tinder masculinity

tinder masculinity

2020-03-3032:34

episode 10 is here! we chat with ryan about his tinder experiences, when dating becomes a game, cultivating healthy masculinity as a high school coach, and finding L O V E on tinder (he’s getting married y’all!). ryan also shares how he’s challenging the toxic rhetoric of his past and shifting to a healthier mindset.
hetero-norma-what?!

hetero-norma-what?!

2020-02-1942:22

in this episode we tackle some biggg topics, including queerness as a political identity, dating while non-binary, creating freedom in relationships, and the connection between white supremacy and heteronormativity. our guest, maia, shares about their experiences and insight from their life as a non-binary, queer person. we hope you enjoy listening to this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it.   SHOW NOTES  The Seven Necessary Sins for Women and Girls by Mona Eltahawy   Audre Lorde
welcome to season 2 of thank you, next! we begin this season with an interview with our friend sam. join us for a conversation about what dating is like for sam as a cisgendered man. we talk about expressing emotions and needs, toxic masculinity, friendships between men, and more.  SHOW NOTES for the love of men by liz plank
bumbled out

bumbled out

2019-05-1719:21

We’ve come to the close of our first season! In this last episode, we reflect on the results of our social experiment and mutually agree that dating is exhausting. Sarah deletes her Bumble account (so done) and Jalynn makes hers inactive (guess she’s not as done...). We comment on the validity of discussing our lived experiences, and identify what we want to do moving forward. Trigger warning: rape/rape culture Show notes Margaret Jacobsen  Chimamanda Adichi 
For the fifth and final Bumble date of the project, we give you a plot twist–we each go on a date with the same (clueless) guy. Our conversation centers around the lack of diversity in higher education and the vital need for all-black spaces. We also talk about the dangers of judging by appearances. Show notes Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston 
In our fourth Bumble date debrief, we confront the complexities of discussing our experience with men raised outside the United States.  We talk about the perils of trauma comparison, beauty standards, objectification, and the male gaze. Jalynn shares her struggles in the fashion photography industry and Sarah recounts her journey to say “f it” to bras. 
netflix n’ church

netflix n’ church

2019-05-1639:28

In this episode, we discuss the dynamics of race in dating relationships, and yes, more white privilege. We call out sexism and the normalization of rape in media. Digging deep into our childhood experiences, we explore gender roles in the home, women’s compensation, the patriarchal Disney culture in the church, and how personality types affect relationships (shout out to Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram). Trigger warning: rape/sexual assault Show notes https://www.themarysue.com/easy-netflix-rape-culture/ 
flat white privilege

flat white privilege

2019-05-1620:12

We’ve gone on our second Bumble dates and we’re ready to talk! Our conversation centers around the awareness of white privilege with Guys #2. We also discuss valuing the humanity of all people and question the boundaries of political debates in life and work. A plan is put in place to avoid the tendency to self-edit. 
deep (dish) issues

deep (dish) issues

2019-05-1623:41

Listen to our first Bumble date debrief! Jalynn admits her false assumptions about Guy #1 prior to the date, and we discuss her deep-seated issues with trusting men. Sarah goes on a pizza date with a man she knows very little about and concludes that she won’t do that again. Conflict ensues when she tries to split the bill.  Show notes I'm Still Here: Black Privilege in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown
In this episode, we start with the basics. What are our reasons for creating the thank you, next project? Listen and you’ll find out! As we set up our first social experiment by creating Bumble Date profiles, we explore just a few ways that racism and sexism have affected who we are as 20-somethings in the current political and social climate. Trigger warning: rape/sexual assault
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