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A weekly discussion for the established church about the challenges and issues church leaders face. Hosted by Sam Rainer (West Bradenton Baptist Church, Bradenton FL) and Josh King (2ND Baptist, Conway Arkansas. The show is produced by Jay Allen (facebook.com/jayallenlive/) in Dallas TX.
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There is a reshuffling of pastors and church members occurring right now. Many pastors are considering leaving, and many churches are looking to hire for a variety of positions. But it seems like potential candidates and congregations are not connecting. Why is church hiring difficult right now? Josh and Sam discuss some reasons why on this week's episode.Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
Your lead pastor has mentioned or hinted that you are next in line for the role. What should you do? And what are the pitfalls to consider? On this episode, Josh and Sam walk through several real-life case studies. In most scenarios, the pathway is not as clear as you might think. We discuss the realities of succession in the typical established church. Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
Few preachers are in the pulpit all 52 weeks of the year. When you are not preaching, who do you invite to fill your place? On this episode, Josh and Sam talk about whether or not it is wise to bring someone in from the outside or to utilize current staff. Should you be gone on holidays or not? They also discuss how to train up others in the church to be ready to preach in your absence. Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
The work-from-home movement went into full swing during the pandemic. Many pastors and church staff changed the way they worked. But what is best? How should you manage others? Josh and Sam talk about the pros and cons of working in different settings. Consistency and accountability are key to productivity. Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
You can learn from well-known influencers without trying to become just like the person influencing you. What is a healthy approach to learning from nationally-known church leaders? Josh and Sam make comments on their biggest influences and how they have been shaped. They also discuss the podcast phenomenon, The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill.Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
At some point, every church will encounter a dangerous individual. What is the proper response? How elevated should you get? What is your role? Josh and Sam discuss their experience in dealing with protestors, potential acts of violence, and protecting children. Crazy and dangerous people may come to your church. You need to be ready. Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
Many churches have women who serve on staff. A number of them have children. Beth Howe joins the show to discuss what "balance" really looks like and how churches can be sensitive to working moms. She gives some creative and practical solutions for pastors and churches. Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
Josh's Administrative Assistant joins the show to discuss what it looks like to be a Pastoral Assistant in 2021. We give helpful discussion points in defining the relationship as well as setting expectations and working well together. From calendaring and correspondence to providing helpful and timely information during a discussion and assistant can be incredibly helpful. This show will help you as you find the one who is going to help you. Episode Sponsor: This summer, Southwestern Seminary announced a new name and vision for their undergraduate college. Scarborough College is now Texas Baptist College! TBC exists to glorify God by providing trustworthy Christian higher education for more faithful Kingdom service. Wherever God calls you, you can get the Christ-centered, Scripture-driven, and student-focused education you need at Texas Baptist College. Visit texasbaptist.com to learn more.
What are some best practices for leading premarital counseling sessions? On this episode, Josh and Sam discuss their approaches. What are some good questions to ask couples? How can you not make this counseling a waste of everyone's time? Two books to consider as resources are Right from the Start and The Meaning of Marriage.Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.
Most pastors love their churches and sacrifice much to serve the people they lead. Unfortunately, there are a few rotten examples out there. Why do some churchgoers stay with them? On this episode, Josh and Sam talk about the reasons why people tolerate and stick with bad pastors. This episode is a follow-up conversation to a recent article at Church Answers here: https://churchanswers.com/blog/why-do-some-churchgoers-stick-with-bad-pastors/Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.
Almost every pastor will make a transition to another church at some point. On this episode, Josh and Sam discuss how you can leave without making a mess on your way out. There are some simple but edifying ways to shepherd your church as you transition. Burning bridges will inevitably haunt you, sometimes even years later. Learn how you can avoid the trouble of leaving poorly.Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.
People make transitions, and sometimes you must help a person move from his or her current ministry position to a new one. There are good ways to transition church staff without firing them. On this episode, Josh and Sam talk about best practices and tips for showing grace when someone's time as a staff person closes. Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.
When a lead pastor transitions to another church, there is a void. If you are on staff or in a position of leadership, the interim period can be a difficult one to navigate. On this episode, Josh and Sam discuss what you should do and what you shouldn't do during the interim. You can manage the interim by building excitement while at the same time not building your own kingdom. Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.
The hiring process at churches can be frustrating. What level of the pastor's involvement is appropriate? Some churches have an elder board. Others have a personnel committee. In some cases, the lead pastor calls all the shots. Josh and Sam discuss best practices with the hiring process. Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.
For a little fun, Josh and Sam make uninformed comments on hot button issues. Perhaps you've had questions from church members about cryptocurrency or aliens. Maybe a family has asked you if their dog is in heaven. We share our opinions. Don't listen to this episode if you don't have a sense of humor.Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.Cornerstone Research provides a free, 30-minute consultation to learn about your dissertation or DMin project, or other editing needs, and to help you determine if their services are a fit for you. To learn more, or to schedule your free consultation, visit cornerstoneresearch.org.
On this episode, Josh and Sam discuss how outside toxicity can affect the church internally. Negativity can come from your tribe--denominations, associations, and networks. Should you ignore or engage these issues? We talk about how you can stay in tune with what’s going on without losing your mind. Sometimes your church has no clue about outside toxicity. Other times it can be a major problem. There are ways to shepherd your people through it. Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.Cornerstone Research provides a free, 30-minute consultation to learn about your dissertation or DMin project, or other editing needs, and to help you determine if their services are a fit for you. To learn more, or to schedule your free consultation, visit cornerstoneresearch.org.
Building momentum can be a slow process. Jonathan Smith from Texas Baptists joins the show to explain how churches can pick up the pace. Even if you feel like the going is slow, anytime someone joins your church God is up to something. There is likely more happening than you realize. Jonathan discusses how celebration, assimilation, and mission are the keys to gaining momentum. Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.Cornerstone Research provides a free, 30-minute consultation to learn about your dissertation or DMin project, or other editing needs, and to help you determine if their services are a fit for you. To learn more, or to schedule your free consultation, visit cornerstoneresearch.org.
Most pastors go through several stages of ministry with their churches.-Year 1: Honeymoon-Years 2 & 3: Conflict and Challenge-Years 4 & 5: Crossroads (Part 1)-Years 6-10: Harvest-Years 11 and Forward: Crossroads (Part 2)Josh and Sam discuss how COVID has impacted these stages and what to expect as the pandemic wanes. You may experience a pause effect, an exacerbation effect, or a reset effect. We also finally settle the debate about the king of country music. Is it George or Garth? Tune into this episode to find out. Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.Cornerstone Research provides a free, 30-minute consultation to learn about your dissertation or DMin project, or other editing needs, and to help you determine if their services are a fit for you. To learn more, or to schedule your free consultation, visit cornerstoneresearch.org.
Over the next several months, there will be more opportunities to go on a mission trip as countries open up. On this episode, Josh and Sam discuss some tips for creating a revised mission strategy for your church. We talk about getting boots on the ground, formatting partnerships, and ideas for trips. You can inspire your church to go! Now is a good time to start. Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.Cornerstone Research provides a free, 30-minute consultation to learn about your dissertation or DMin project, or other editing needs, and to help you determine if their services are a fit for you. To learn more, or to schedule your free consultation, visit cornerstoneresearch.org.
What is ghostwriting? Do some pastors actually use ghostwriters? In this episode, Josh and Sam discuss the ethics of using other people to help write books and sermons. They also discuss the validity of aspiring to broaden your audience beyond your church. Additionally, this episode covers services that help with sermon outlines and illustrations. Should you use sermon outlines from another source?Episode Sponsors:Located in Fort Worth, Texas, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary is committed to providing theological education for individuals engaging in Christian ministry. Southwestern Seminary offers a variety of degree programs at the undergraduate, masters, and doctoral levels. Just this year, our friends at Southwestern launched new 8-week online classes, which means you don’t have to wait until the next full semester to begin. If you are interested in taking the next step in ministry, visit SWBTS.edu to learn more about how you can get started. You need to learn more about two great resources from Church Initiative. The makers of GriefShare and DivorceCare offer a team of experienced coaches. They equip your church members to get the program started—so it’s not on your plate.Pastors are saying these are among the easiest, most effective ministries they’ve ever offered. Check out GriefShare and DivorceCare.Cornerstone Research provides a free, 30-minute consultation to learn about your dissertation or DMin project, or other editing needs, and to help you determine if their services are a fit for you. To learn more, or to schedule your free consultation, visit cornerstoneresearch.org.
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