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True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast that aims to identify the missing victims of serial killer Israel Keyes. Host Josh Hallmark has spent close to a decade combing through FBI files, analyzing interrogation videos, and working with experts in the field in this comprehensive and ground-breaking podcast.
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In light of new revelations about Keyes's childhood and time in Eastern Washington, we further explore his upbringing, religious history, and his family's beliefs; which all lead us back to that farmhouse in Hunters, Washington. And from there, we try to make sense of what happened on April 2, 2005. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With research by: Jordan Taylor And additional research by: Michelle Tooker and Shana Wilensky. TROVA TRIP to ICELANDLearn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREONThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand RESOURCEShttps://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/jun/17/cheyne-kehoe-turns-himself-in-brother-still-on/https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/influential-christian-identity-pastor-dies/https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/christian-identity/https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity-movementhttps://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/christian-identity-movement-analyzing-its-theologicalhttps://califias.blogspot.com/2014/10/art-bulla-and-church-of-jesus-christ.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliven_BundySPONSORS:Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBSCornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBSBetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCBQuince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBSMusic by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. Featured music by: Joan as Police WomanPatreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
A childhood friend of Israel's comes forward to discuss his time in Colville, Christian Identity, the Keyes family, Israel's early crimes, and more. This episode was written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. TROVA TRIP to ICELANDLearn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREONThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS:Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBSCornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBSBetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCBQuince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBSFeatured music by: Kate Dalton. Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
A childhood friend of Israel's comes forward to discuss his time in Colville, Christian Identity, the Keyes family, Israel's early crimes, and more. This episode was written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. TROVA TRIP to ICELANDLearn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREONThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS:Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBSCornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBSBetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCBQuince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBSMusic by: Denhollander. Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
We first covered Hunters, Washington back in season two. And while our reporting on it paused, our investigation into it did not. Jordan and an anonymous source have spent years digging into Hunters and the abandoned farmhouse there. And even as we thought there was nothing left to find, new information began pouring in. And continued pouring in as recording and post-production on this episode were happening. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker. TROVA TRIP to ICELANDLearn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREONThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS:Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBSCornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBSBetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCBQuince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBSMusic by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey Deatly, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
Josh and Michelle Tooker examine Keyes's comments about and references to abducting and murdering couples. They take a look at what exactly that might mean, follow-up on previously covered cases, and take a look at new ones. And then they hone in on what the team may have been overlooking all along. This episode was written, researched, and produced by Michelle Tooker. It was edited and post-produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky and Jordan Taylor. TROVA TRIP to ICELANDLearn more and/or reserve your spot at https://trovatrip.com/trip/europe/iceland/iceland-with-josh-hallmark-jun-2026 PATREONThis is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS:Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBSCornbread Hemp: Get %30 off your first order by using promo code TCBS at www.cornbreadhemp.com/TCBSBetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCBQuince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBSMusic by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. Featured song by: Peter & Kerry Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen Studer, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey Deatly, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
Join Josh, Shana, and Tooker in Iceland on our next Trova Trip: June 13 - 19, 2026.Check out the itinerary and RESERVE your spot todayBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
Josh follows up on a new tip from FBI Special Agent Ted Halla. It takes him to familiar ground, both literally and in cases he's looked into previously. This new tip, with some research and fascinating conversations, compels Josh to some interesting and shocking conclusions. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS:Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off at www.UncommonGoods.com/TCBSQuince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBSBetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCBMusic by: Radical Face, Odyssey, and 9 Moons. Featured song by: Hannah Cohen. Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, DeWayne C, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Pink, SC, Bethany Heintz, Michael Randall, Ashley Kupin, Carrie, Kathy Nation, Emily Paine, Megan Inman, Lauren Ferri, Carol, Robin, Shelly, Sabrina Abbott, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Trista, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Tori Myers, Nichole, and Lydia Rodarte Quayle.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
In the season 7 premiere, Josh goes over a long list of significant new evidence, answers a few big questions, and asks plenty more new questions. A picture of a woman found in Keyes's car paints a very clear picture of some of his activity. New maps, journals, writings, and more set the stage for an eye-opening season. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand SPONSORS:Quince: Get free shipping at www.Quince.com/TCBSBetterHelp: Get 10% off your first month at www.BetterHelp.com/TCBMusic by: Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Lee Rosevere, Jozeque. Featured song by: Thom Yorke.Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, DeWayne C, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Pink, SC, Bethany Heintz, Michael Randall, Ashley Kupin, Carrie, Kathy Nation, Emily Paine, Megan Inman, Lauren Ferri, Carol, Robin, Shelly, Sabrina Abbott, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Trista, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Tori Myers, Nichole, and Lydia Rodarte Quayle.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.SPONSORS:BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.SPONSORS:BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.SPONSORS:BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.SPONSORS:BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.SPONSORS:BetterHelp: Go to www.betterhelp.com/TCB for 10% off your first month. Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.SPONSORS:Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.SPONSORS:Quince: Go to www.quince.com/TCBS to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
The season six finale is over a decade in the making; Josh sits down with FBI Special Agent Ted Halla to discuss the Keyes investigation, share new information and ideas, rule out potential victims, and develop our clearest look yet at the details surrounding 5 of Keyes's victims. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Featuring: FBI SA Ted Halla. Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Sero. Featured song: The Museum by Half Waif Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
Josh continues his look into the strange disappearance of Roger Jung. The team analyzes tips, reviews the Keyes timeline, data mines, and gets some help from the Everett Police Department.This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Kim K. Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Trova Trip to Chile & ArgentinaMusic by: William Hellfire, HIVE, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov. Featured song by: SunriverPatreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
The team deep-dives a Washington State case that has come up time and time again over the years. New case files, new leads, and a strange online comment in a very cold case turn a mysterious disappearance on its head.This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. Research assistance by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Kim K. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Trova Trip to Chile & ArgentinaMusic by: William Hellfire, Itai Argaman, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov. Featured song by: Katie Herzig Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
As the investigation into Marble Arvidson's disappearance heats up, it takes Josh and the team to a second nearby disappearance with some overwhelming connections to Keyes. And a theory the team considered several years ago, rears its very ugly head.This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research assistance by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker. Resources included:• https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2011/10/19/police-search-for-missing-shelburne-woman/• https://digital.nepr.net/news/2016/08/29/hurricane-irene-its-been-five-years-since-shelburne-falls-building-sailed-away/• https://www.wwlp.com/news/hurricane-irene-remembered-in-franklin-county-five-years-later/This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, Yehezkel Rez, Dan Mayo, and Parhelion. Featured song by: The National Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.
Supplemental files in the Marble Arvidson case take the team on a strange journey. New interviews with Marble's friends shine a light on who he was and where he might have gone on the day he vanished. And that information shines a new light not just on Keyes, but four other disappearances in the area. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by: Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky. And research assistance by: Michelle Tooker. This episode features: Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker. This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: www.truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, and Radical Face. Featured song: "I Follow Rivers" by: Marika Hackman Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-bullsh--3588169/support.





very interesting
Wow: The rat-bashing and how he dances around it and intellectualizes it. Very dark stuff and early imprinting potential.
not sure why you're not using his daughters real name. its well known now.
...what's the potato recipe though...
I still don't think it rilles Keyes out
Very annoying background noise in this one.
It doesn't seem like Dec. Holla knows very much.
Haunting...vanished into thin air....should know me better than that....
Watervliet NY is actually pronounced like water-va-leet, fyi. Not that Josh will ever read this.
surely he wouldn't rob a bank with a body in the car
"It was already dug". I remembered, and have been searching for this comment (since listening to Somewhere in the pines). Keyes often talks about acts being too much work. When looking for caches or bodies, I think this comment could be important when searching. What holes or ditches are already existing in the area?
"The ditch that I had in mind to use"
The thing about something being wrong with a wheel and offering a ride to nearest service station was also in the Zodiac movie (2007).
Josh how much did you spend on the chromatics song rights lol
Love hearing from Julie Murray. She’s such an inspiration.
prayers for you and your family. a fur baby loss is devastating.
Always think of Maura with that track. The paper in the house makes me think of not just Maura, but another missing...thanks Josh
Josh, I don't get chills from listening to true crime, but I got them multiple times while listening to this. I wish you could somehow definitively nail this down because it just feels like the answer. Thank you for all you do.
You're killing me, smalls! No pun intended unless you have a dark sense of humor, then eh.
such a sex pest.