The Fangirl Business: A Supernatural Podcast

SPOILER WARNING: This episode contains reactions to and discussions of The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye." ...........In this raw audio episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their initial reactions to The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye," with particular attention to the healing work this episode and the entire season did in the wake of Supernatural's series finale, "Carry On."A full analysis of the episode will happen at a later date, and they will continue to release episodes about the rest of the season in order!Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

If you want to follow along with Chrisha's social media reveals, scroll down to find all the links!In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine do a whole lot of screeching about:DeanDean's birthdayDean talking about having an open heartThat freaking amazing Dean reveal at the end of the episodeDean F***ing WinchesterThey also look at Mary's strength in the face of pushy men, John's supportiveness and (sigh) incredibly romantic lines, Lata's continued ability to figure out all of the things, Carlos' amazing journey of rejecting the game, glitter explosions, and singing, and they try to nail down the history of Loki and Gabriel (which apparently even Jensen Ackles needs help with!). If you want to experience the social media journey of the celebration of Dean's birthday right along with Catherine, here are the links:The Boys Official Account TweetThe Family Business Beer Company Instagram Post Jensen Ackles' Instagram VideoJensen Ackles' Instagram Reel PhotoDanneel Ackles' Tweet from the Cast PartyBianca Kajlich's Tweet from the Cast PartyThe Winchesters' Cast Sings Happy BirthdayThe Winchesters' Cast Reacts to the Big Reveal The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: The CW, with major kudos to Jojo Fleites and Louden Swain for "Hard Times Come Again No More"Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine take out their red string and have fun trying to untangle the mess of what the heck is going on in the wider story. They look at look at the connections between the Akrida and Supernatural S7's Leviathan and delve further into differences between the two series: beyond the odd ghouls to the watchdogs left behind by the Men of Letters and the different way that magic seems to work.  Yes, there is more talk about radio waves. Yes, they talk about the closet scene and the kiss scene and the reflections of Supernatural's "Despair." And they ponder the importance of Roxy's comment that "nothing of this Earth" can kill her. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: "The Gambler" by Kenny Rogers; “Can’t Find My Way Home” by Blind Faith; “Time After Time” by Herman Hupfield, sung by Dooley Wilson; “Reflections” by Diana Ross and The Supremes; "Watching Over Me" by Radio CompanyFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

Content Warning: This episode includes discussions of Dean Winchester's death. In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine go full red string with discussions about possible AUs, the musical paratexts and how they speak into the story, and parallels between John and Mary and Destiel.  The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWVancon 2022 audio clip credits: Creation Entertainment Music clip credits: "Joan of Arc" by Judy Collins; "Art of Dying" by George HarrisonFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine talk about barns. A lot.They also discuss Mary's growth as a leader, John's anger and his attempt at healing, Lata's powerful choice for non-violence, and Carlos' sudden silence in the face of true attraction--and how that speaks to Dean's reactions towards Cas.  The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: "Pull the Wool" by U.S. Stamps; "All Right Now" by Free; "I Put a Spell On You" sung by Nina SimoneFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

In Part 2 of their two-parter on The Winchesters'  "Legacy of a Mind," Chrisha and Catherine pull out the red string.They delve into the reasons why Mary and John's journey into Mary's mind may have felt a little familiar, why the monster of the week may have given us some clues as to what the heck is going on with the series, and discuss about the Akrida and what the episode's songs may be hinting at. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: “Windmills of Your Mind" by Dusty Springfield; "I Put a Spell on You" cover by Nina Simone; "Legend of a Mind" by The Moody BluesFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

It was another massive recording session for episode five of The Winchesters, "Legacy of a Mind," so this week Chrisha and Catherine are breaking it down into two different parts.Part 1 explores the Monster Club's character arcs in the episode and the themes of lies vs. honesty and hiding vs. being seen. Of special focus are Mary's exploration of her darkest moment, Ada's relationship with her son, Tony, and the many, many ways in which John deserves being told to f*** off.Part 2? Yeah, they're pulling out the red string. Stay tuned!The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of PTSD and John's self-harm behavior.It's been a bit of a wait, but Catherine and Chrisha are back with a MASSIVE almost 2 hour episode about The Winchester's E4, "Masters of War." They focus in on the trauma journeys faced by the two different pairs in the episode: John and Carlos, and Lata and Mary, and the different ways each of them face when triggered: healing and community vs. anger and isolation. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: “Everybody’s Talkin’” by Harry Nilsson; “Masters of War” by Bob Dylan"Everybody's Talkin'" lyrics, as promised. :)Everybody's talkin' at meI don't hear a word they're sayin'Only the echoes of my mindPeople stoppin', starin'I can't see their facesOnly the shadows of their eyesI'm goin' where the sun keeps shinin'Through the pourin' rainGoin' where the weather suits my clothesBankin' off of the Northeast windsSailin' on summer breezeAnd skippin' over the ocean like a stoneWah, wahWahI'm going where the sun keeps shinin'Through the pourin' rainGoin' where the weather suits my clothesBankin' off of the Northeast windsSailin' on summer breezeAnd skippin' over the ocean like a stoneEverybody's talkin' at meCan't hear a word they're sayin'Only the echoes of my mindI won't let you leave my love behindNo, I won't let you leave-wahI won't let you leave my love behindFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

Episode 3 of The Winchesters was wild, and Catherine and Chrisha were definitely feeling like that gif of the guy with the red string by the end of recording this episode.From new character revelations to the dueling music narratives to the way that radio waves seemed to play an important role in the episode, they dig deep into the meta of the episode and notice some interesting connections between The Winchesters and the wider world of Supernatural. Also: Robbie Thompson, Catherine and Chrisha really want to know what you're up too. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: "Restless Feeling" by Elderberry Jak; "Something Got Into Your Life" by Spooky Tooth; "Spooky" by Percy Sledge; "You're Lost Little Girl" by The DoorsFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

Episode 2 of The Winchesters hit hard on the concept of monstrous parents, generational trauma, cycles of abuse, and finding yourself. From La Tunda, to Mary's relationship with Samuel, to John and Millie's fractious interactions, Chrisha and Catherine delve into and unpack the big and difficult concepts that this episode tackled.The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: "Altitude"  by Claude Perraudin; "Aquarius" by The 5th Dimension; "Teach Your Children" by Crosby, Stills, Nash, and YoungFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

Chrisha and Catherine have SOOOOO many thoughts about The Winchesters' premiere. From discussions about all the new characters, the incredible music, the Easter eggs and the parallels between moments from this new show and Supernatural, to thoughts about what might, exactly, be going on with Dean, this episode has a little bit of everything. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWInterview with the Vampire audio clip credits: AMCMusic clip credits: "Americana" by Jay Gruska; "I'd Love to Change the World" by Ten Years After; "All Right Now" by FreeFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

There has been so much promotional material coming out about The Winchesters  that Catherine and Chrisha have literally not been able to keep up!But they did have an opportunity to record about some of it, and you can listen to their thoughts about:- that slightly different version of "Carry On Wayward Son" under a recent promo- more about that Cas clip and how it might connect to "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Destiny's Child" - Henry Winchester and Mary Campbell- mother-and-child relationships―all  in this new episode!The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWMusic clip credits: "Carry On Wayward Son" by Kansas; "Overture" from The Phantom of the Opera by Andrew Lloyd WebberLinks:Example of epic music: "Centurion" by Twisted Jukebox https://youtu.be/ysavcCui_kITwitter discourse that got part of the conversation started: https://twitter.com/cursed_or_not/status/1574797177074831360Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

In this full length episode, Chrisha and Catherine go into a more in-depth look at the upcoming series, The Winchesters. After their initial full on "nope" reaction to its first mention, they share what led them to give it a try. While still having reservations, they discuss what, exactly, from behind the scenes info, trailers, photo shoots, and posters, is making them excited enough to delve into a new season of podcasting. The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CW; JIB12Music clip credits: "Spirit in the Sky," by Norman GreenbaumFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

The Fangirl Business is BACK with a new episode teasing their new project: the upcoming series, The Winchesters.Welcoming listeners both old and new, Catherine and Chrisha discuss how their previous season, which followed the highs and lows of Supernatural's Season 15, is informing their current project.  With a longer episode to come before The Winchesters' premiere, they briefly examine both their concerns about the new series and what made them decide to give it a try. Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters'  "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine look at the characters' journeys--everything from the psychological reasons for John's regression under pressure to Millie and Ada bonding to Carlos' knowledge of Latin. In the midst of it all, they talk about odd ghouls, the ins and outs of Akrida possession, and the implications for Robbie Thompson's interview with TV Line, where he teases that he hopes the reveal that the Akrida are from an AU "will drive some theories from our audience as to what we've been up to."  The Winchesters audio clip credits: The CWSupernatural audio clip credits: The WB; The CWNashcon 2022 audio clip credits: Creation Entertainment Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

Content Warning: This episode contains audio from Castiel's confession scene.In what is a very 2022 moment, Chrisha and Catherine present to you a podcast they recorded in 2021--whilst also announcing an official hiatus after having not released any content for the past nine months. Yes, this pandemic sure has been a ride! Join them for some Destiel squee and pain while they examine Radio Company's "Watching Over Me." They go on a deep dive about why they see this music as a song written from Dean's perspective after Cas' death, textually comparing the lyrics to moments from Season 15.  Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW Music clip credits: Radio Company, "Watching Over Me"; Amy Grant, "Angels Watching Over Me"Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting at Dean's funeral and ending at the bridge reunion. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine begin their discussion with Dean's funeral, and proceed through to the brothers' reunion at the bridge.  Along the way, they discuss everything from the way Sam's life montage invokes S14's "Nightmare Logic" to Dean drinking El Sol beer in heaven as they continue to investigate the many allusions to something being "wrong" with the events of the finale. Their conclusion? Given all that they have uncovered, canon for them ends in E19.Links from discussion:Supernatural Beer Info: https://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/167499752865/hey-what-are-your-tags-for-beersign-meta-thanksFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting with a discussion of the barn setting and including the entirety of Dean's death scene. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the barn set and its connection to Season 4's "Heaven and Hell" before approaching Dean's death scene and the dialogue between him and Sam. Pulling out key lines of dialogue, they discuss the implications of what each the brothers said. Links from discussion:The Barn Set & "Heaven and Hell": https://twitter.com/NorthernSprw/status/1346493443321831428?s=20Vampire Queer Coding & "Carry On": https://404dumbitch.tumblr.com/post/640381858210807808/the-most-hated-film-of-its-timeFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On" up to and including the vampire fight, but prior to Dean's death. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine break down the structure and content of "Carry On" in order to analyze why, exactly, the episode didn't work: how it deviates from the trajectory of S15, and how it conflicts with established canon. They also discuss the visual cues scattered throughout the episode that seem to indicate there may be an altered reality of some sort at play throughout the finale.Links from discussion:Corelli Pizza Info: https://naruhearts.tumblr.com/post/173616333026/thedogsled-prairiedust-spnjohnlocked Supernatural Beer Info: https://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/167499752865/hey-what-are-your-tags-for-beersign-meta-thanksVampire Queer Coding & "Carry On": https://404dumbitch.tumblr.com/post/640381858210807808/the-most-hated-film-of-its-timeFollow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!

 Note: Due to life, an abundance of excellent series rewatch podcasts, and the new series The Winchesters, "Reclaiming Supernatural" has been put on the back burner for the immediate future. In this episode of The Fangirl Business, Chrisha and Catherine talk about their upcoming project, "Reclaiming Supernatural," a rewatch with a twist that will start back at season one. They also discuss their next steps, which includes a final deconstruction, analysis, and rejection of the series finale, "Carry On," using a literary lens. Follow us on Twitter @TheFangirlBizJoin our Kofi Discord community at $1/month:https://ko-fi.com/thefangirlbiz/tiersSupport our podcast by buying our new merch: https://www.redbubble.com/people/thefangirlbiz/shopThanks for listening!