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Since it was formed in 2023, the CBIA Foundation for Economic Growth & Opportunity has focused on charting a course for sustained economic growth in Connecticut that leads to greater opportunities for all residents. Foundation director Dustin Nord joined the CBIA BizCast to discuss the organization’s mission and growth. Nord joined the foundation in September 2024. “The foundation presented a really cool opportunity to have that platform to look at and see, what are the areas that that Connecticut can be better,” Nord said. “Where can we make tangible recommendations to be a better state?” Nord previously worked at AdvanceCT and has a passion for economic data and research. “It’s a little bit like magic, the things that come out of the data,” he said. “And it's just the opportunity to help other folks see what I see in that data.” Nord joined the foundation around the same time the organization released its Opportunity Connecticut report. The report is a long-term roadmap for boosting the state’s competitiveness, retaining and attracting investment and talent, fostering innovation, expanding career pathway opportunities, and growing a vibrant economy. He said a key to the report's success is ensuring that it’s a living document. “I think that's where previous reports fell short,” he said. “What we're hoping that we can maintain with Opportunity Connecticut is that continual improvement.” Nord said that while the foundation is focused on long-term thinking and doesn’t advocate for any specific legislation, nearly two-thirds of the recommendations in Opportunity Connecticut have seen some kind of an update so far. Those include efforts this past session to address critical issues like energy, housing, and regulatory reform. “I feel confident that the Opportunity Connecticut report helped start some of those conversations, and push those conversations in a in a bipartisan, cooperative way,” he said. As part of effort to track and update the foundation’s research, Nord has spent much of the last year diving deeper into the impact of issues including tariffs and the state’s housing shortage on the Connecticut economy. The foundation this month released its new By the Numbers: Tracking Connecticut’s Economic Competitiveness reference guide. The resource tool details key economic data points and trends, highlighting where Connecticut compares with other states in critical areas. And a key area of focus is the state’s labor force. “Everybody has a labor shortage around the country right now, but Connecticut is acute," he said. "I think we're seeing that in the data in terms of persistently high job openings and very low unemployment.” Nord said that while his research is based on data, it’s also important to have anecdotal information. The foundation holds forums and roundtables throughout the year to gain insight from stakeholders including business, nonprofit, and education leaders. “Some of that anecdotal information helps inform where to look,” he said. “It helps inform what, what types of data points do I need to look for. “If there is data to support what people are feeling, then I want to be able to show that.” Nord said that while the research he and the foundation are doing is a critical piece of improving the state’s economy and creating new opportunities for residents, it requires buy-in from everyone. “While we can provide a lot of great research, and I can provide a lot of great forums, and I can give ideas to the advocacy team—ultimately, this requires people to participate in in our processes here in Connecticut.” “If they want to make their voices heard, then I then I encourage them to do that. “And I hope that this helps inspire some people to do that.” Related Links: CBIA Foundation LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia-foundation/ Dustin Nord LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustin-nord-ct/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

Voting in the 2025 Coolest Thing Made in Connecticut challenge is underway! The challenge celebrates the successes of the vital manufacturing industry and highlights the wide range of products produced by our world-class, highly skilled workforce. Featuring 16 Connecticut-made products, the single-elimination, bracket-style competition allows the public to vote on their favorite product.  This special episode of the CBIA BizCast shines a spotlight on these amazing companies, the cool things they make, and their incredible workforces. The companies in this year’s challenge are: • American Woolen Company American Blazer : https://americanwoolen.com/ • Amodex Stain Remover: https://amodexusa.com/ • Beekley Medical Elequil Aromatabs Aromatherapy : https://beekley.com/ • Bic Consumer Products Lighter: https://us.bic.com/en_us • Element 119 System X Max G+ Ceramic Coating : https://www.element119.com/ • Ensign-Bickford Aerospace & Defense Frangible Joint : https://ebad.com/ • Fascia’s Chocolates Chocolate Lava Cake: https://faschoc.com/ • Horst Engineering & Manufacturing Co. Horst Dreidel: https://horstengineering.com/   • Munson’s Chocolates Pecan Caramel Patties: https://www.munsonschocolates.com/ • Naiad Dynamics Fin Stabilizer : https://www.naiad.com/ • Oma’s Pride Woof Compete Recipes Dog Food : https://omaspride.com/ • Owl’s BrewOwl’s Brew Boozy Beverage : https://www.theowlsbrew.com/ • Rose Sisters Chips Baked Flour Tortilla Chips: https://www.rosesisterschips.com/ • Thule ReVert Bike Rack: https://www.thule.com/en-us/ • Urban Mining Pozzotive Glass Concrete: https://pozzotive.com/ • ZANEEZ HealthAnkleStone: https://anklestone.com/ The Coolest Thing Made in Connecticut is produced by the CBIA Foundation in partnership with CONNSTEP and made possible through the generous support of CliftonLarsonAllen LLP, Image Marketing, Blue Back Square, Medtronic, the Connecticut Office of Manufacturing, and Forge. The winner will be announced at the Oct. 2 Made in Connecticut: 2025 Manufacturing Summit. After the competition, the Connecticut Science Center will open an exhibit Oct. 10 celebrating the 2025 Coolest Things Made in Connecticut.

State lawmakers approved sweeping regulatory changes during the 2025 legislative session to replace the antiquated Transfer Act with new release-based cleanup regulations. When the new regulations take effect March 2026, it will be the culmination of years of collaboration between key stakeholders, including CBIA member companies, the Department of Energy and Environmental Protection, and Department of Economic and Community Development. “It had to be a partnership between the business community and state agencies to get this done,” says CBIA’s Pete Myers. Myers and Robinson+Cole’s Emilee Mooney Scott joined the CBIA BizCast to break down the regulations and why the shift will have a positive impact on the state’s economy. Mooney Scott said conversations around replacing the Transfer Act have been ongoing since she joined Robinson+Cole in 2011. She said the Transfer Act required filings and costly environmental investigations when owners tried to transfer ownership of their property. “An enormous amount of time and money goes into that evaluation,” she said. She added that the process is onerous and inefficient and “chills economic development and real estate transactions.” Under the new regulations, Mooney Scott said contamination must be investigated and remediated when a release occurs. “So, if you kick over a drum—it occurs today, or when a past release is discovered,” she said. “There’s no particular requirement to go out and prove a negative.” Connecticut based the new regulations in part on a similar system already in place in Massachusetts. “We’re a different state than Massachusetts,” Myers said. “But it was certainly a roadmap that we wanted to follow. “How can we be similar to states around us, but yet still be more competitive in those states around us?” Myers said the updated regulations will help promote economic development, particularly in cities and downtown areas. “You’re going to see a tremendous amount of sites become available in our downtowns, like Waterbury and Danbury, that are now available for economic development,” he said. Myers and Mooney Scott said it was important that the state and the regulated community keep making the program better. Because of that, the working group that’s been part of the effort to create the new regulations will continue to provide input into the program. “We’ve been building this shiny new vehicle, but we won’t really know how it drives until we take it for a spin,” Mooney Scott said. “And we’re not taking it for a spin until March 1. So, it is a huge relief that there is this feedback mechanism in place to evaluate how it drives.” As businesses prepare for the new system, Mooney Scott plans to do a video series with Robinson+Cole to help them understand the regulations. Mooney Scott and Myers encouraged businesses who are either working through the Transfer Act or planning to use the new release-based cleanup regulations to share their feedback through CBIA’s E2: Energy & Environment Council. “Members of the business community can be a bit reluctant to raise their own hands and say, I am having this problem,” Mooney Scott said. “E2 can take that feedback and pass it up in a way that helps the individual members.” “It’s a tremendous resource to have access to people like Emily and the rest of our members,” Myers added. Related Links: Robinson+Cole Website: https://www.rc.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/robinson-cole-llp/ Emilee Mooney Scott LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilee-mooney-scott-1091266/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/ Pete Myers LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-myers-9623871ab/ ________________________________________ The CBIA BizCast is made possible through the generous support of Google. Please rate, review, and subscribe to the BizCast wherever you get your podcasts—we appreciate your support!

As president and CEO of Freeman Companies, Rohan Freeman runs three successful engineering, construction, and real estate firms. He’s also an accomplished mountain climber and the first African-American to climb the Seven Summits—the highest mountain on each of the seven continents. And he’s completed the so-called “explorers grand slam” which includes treks to the North and South Pole. “Sometimes I pinch myself, I feel pretty fortunate to get here and for some of the things I've accomplished,” Freeman told the CBIA BizCast. Freeman grew up in Jamaica, moving to Hartford after high school and graduating from the University of Connecticut with a degree in civil engineering. He said he started his firm in Hartford because it was home and his mother and brother both worked for the city. “I started my firm, and then starting to get more into the fabric of Hartford and the community and understanding some of the major issues that were impacting the city and realized that maybe I could help in some small way,” he said. Since then, the Freeman Companies has been involved in major projects in the city including Dunkin’ Park and a number school, housing, and redevelopment projects. He also founded Seven Summits Construction, which centers on nonprofits, schools, and community based work and Seven Summits Realty, which develops housing to provide access to those less fortunate. “I felt feel so connected to the city, and that's why I also want to give back,” Freman said. “I lived here, my mom lived here. So it's important to me to give back, especially with the way my career has been shaped by the city.” So how does someone who grew up on the island of Jamaica end up becoming a mountain climber? “Good question,” Freeman said. He said winter in Connecticut was a culture shock, but instead of moving somewhere warmer, he decided to embrace it and learn to snowboard. “I'm like, ‘okay, so this is how you enjoy winter,’” he said. “I'm like, ‘okay, I gotta do something else.’ And then my friends got me into ice climbing, and cross-country skiing.” Eventually, one of his friends asked him if he wanted to climb Kilimanjaro. “When I was a kid, we would talk about Kilimanjaro as some mythical place,” he said. "I'm like, 'Yeah, I want to go.'" He said after doing his research and training, they successfully climbed the mountain. And that got him excited for more. “I wanted to replicate that challenge,” Freeman said. “My mind always goes to, ‘am I saying I can't do it because I'm afraid? And also physically, could I accomplish this?’ “So I have to prove those things to myself.” Over the years he achieved the feat of climbing the Seven Summits. “It's knowing that I could break through these barriers,” he said. “Sometimes you find yourself in some really challenging situation where you feel like you have your last ounce of energy to give, but you really have more. “Going through these situations let me know that no matter how bad things are, there's always a little bit more to give.” Freeman said the lessons he’s learned through mountain climbing have helped him as as a leader as he’s grown Freeman Companies. “You may say, ‘physically climbing Denali, climbing Everest doesn't relate professionally,’” he said. “But I would disagree with you." “When we climb, we climb in a rope team,” he said. “So, when we move, we move together.” “It doesn't matter how strong you are as a leader. You cannot move faster than the weakest guy is capable of moving.” Freeman said that it’s the same in business and everybody on the team has equal importance. “You need everybody to be contributing, and so you have to find that balance for your team," he said. Related Links: Freeman Companies Website: https://freemancos.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/freeman-companies-llc/ Rohan Freeman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohanfreeman/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

He’s not calling it retirement. But after a successful career as CBIA senior counsel and executive director of the Connecticut Bioscience Growth Council, Paul Pescatello is ready for “a little bit of rebalancing.” Pescatello joined the CBIA BizCast to reflect on his career and the state of the biotech industry. Pescatello started his career as a banking and insurance regulatory lawyer with Shipman and Goodwin. “They needed somebody to do some lobbying to start a new bank,” he said. “There was actually legislation needed to make it happen. “So, I volunteered and that's sort of how I learned how to lobby in Connecticut.” Pescatello’s interest in the bioscience and pharmaceutical industry arose from a family crisis. “My oldest brother, who I was really close to, came down with glioblastoma, which is a really, really terrible form of brain cancer,” he said. “I think when something like that happens to you or to somebody you know really well— you want to do something. “You want to channel your energies into something that would help this person or help people in the future.” He said being involved in his brother’s care and treatment drew him to the research that pharmaceutical companies were doing. “I really love the industry. It was such a fascinating industry,” he said. Pescatello started doing pro bono work in the area and ran a bioscience advocacy organization. He joined CBIA in 2014, and started managing the Connecticut Bioscience Growth Council. Pescatello said his goal was to educate people that the innovation and research done by the pharmaceutical industry was key to solving the healthcare crisis. “People here at CBIA have heard me talk about it over and over again—as costly as some drugs are, they really are a cost saver to the overall health system,” he said. Pescatello said that a major expense in the cost of drugs is the vast amount of research and development that goes into the process. “It's just hard to wrap your mind around the really unique research and development arc of bringing a drug from idea to FDA approved products,” Pescatello said. It takes $2.7 billion and about 10-12 years to bring a drug from idea to product. “When legislators ask, ‘why are drug prices so high here?’ It’s true, we really do pay the world’s R&D.” Pescatello credited the buy-in from legislatures and administrations to understand the importance the industry carries in the state. That buy-in has led to Connecticut being at the forefront of research and development tax credits for biotech companies. “They're spending tons and tons of money, but they have no income coming in,” Pescatello said. “So those research and development tax credits—they can carry them forward into the future.” He said it’s critical for the state to stay competitive to support and grow the industry. “Things like the research and development tax credits—other states have copied that,” he said. “We have to keep in the game on that.” Pescatello said it’s been satisfying to see the growth of the industry in Connecticut. “I drive a lot of satisfaction from the range of companies that are here and the range of products that come out of Connecticut,” he said. “We should all really take a victory lap for how big the industry is in Connecticut and how sustainable it is.” As he “rebalances,” Pescatello said he's looking forward to spending more time with his five grandchildren. But he said he plans to continue his advocacy for the bioscience industry. “I love the industry,” he said. “I really care about it in terms of its effect on all of us and on patients and disease—understanding the mechanisms of disease and finding treatments and cures for disease.” ________________________________________ The CBIA BizCast is made possible through the generous support of Google. Please rate, review, and subscribe to the BizCast wherever you get your podcasts—we appreciate your support!

For many warehouse companies and distribution centers, dealing with logistics, and facilities, and workforce development can be a challenge. That’s where The TAC Group comes in. “We’re a supply chain operations consulting firm,” Grace Napolitano, the company’s principal and business development executive, told the CBIA BizCast. “We are focused on operational excellence within distribution and fulfillment centers.” Napolitano and her husband Zack started the company in 2023 after he spent his career working with FedEx and other distribution companies. That experience included working with companies to implement new management systems. “He really kind of fell in love with that area and working with different companies to help with their operational excellence,” Napolitano said. “He had so much care for the people that worked for him. He really cared about what their life story was, not just how they could perform for him and for the operation.” Napolitano had a background in business operations, sales and marketing. She previously worked in the media industry including as publisher and lead national ad director for the Chicago Sun Times. “So, I said, ‘If you trust what I can do, I trust what you can do,’ and The TAC Group was born,” she said. Napolitano said the company focuses on helping businesses with third-party logistics, facility layout and design, leadership development. But she said they are most proud of their labor optimization programs. “We’re very passionate about making sure people enjoy coming to work and not just being kind of like a racehorse being whipped go faster, go faster,” she said. She added their goal is to give them “the why behind what we’re doing.” She highlighted the high-paced environment of working in a distribution center. “Distribution is a grind,” she said. “It’s 24/7—it’s multiple shifts. There are reports coming in at 3 am, there are holidays being missed, there’s birthdays being missed. “With The TAC group, it’s really our focus to connect with the frontline workers on a personal level.” Napolitano said that workforce retention is a significant challenge for distribution centers. She said when workers leave for a different company, it costs an average of $8,000 to replace and train them. “If we could just put that investment into coaching and training the managers to work with their frontline workers, to make them feel like they’re part of the organization, that they’re valued and that they matter—that really will help the businesses keep jobs here in Connecticut,” Napolitano said. Napolitano said a big part of their work is to train managers to work with and support their employees. She added many of those managers were previously frontline workers themselves, and don’t necessarily know how to coach and guide other workers. “We’re giving them that skill set to be great leaders and great managers of the next generation of managers and executives,” she said. Related Links: The TAC Group Website: http://thetacgrp.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tacgroupconsulting/ Grace Napolitano on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracenapolitano/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

More than 4,000 bills were introduced during the 2025 General Assembly session, with only 286 gaining final legislative approval. The CBIA BizCast team sat down with CBIA vice president of public policy Chris Davis to break down the session and some of the important bills that will impact the business community. “There were a lot of long nights right at the end of session, especially in those last few days,” Davis said. Much of the focus in the last days of the session centered on the state budget. The $55.8 billion budget adopted by the state legislature uses fiscal guardrail workarounds and business tax hikes to increase state spending by $2.6 billion over the next two years. Davis said the workarounds to the fiscal guardrails are troubling for businesses. “For us in the business community, they’re not just talking points these caps,” he said. “They are truly what gives us predictability, sustainability, and stability. “Boosting up that spending beyond what we can really afford is what gives us a lot of pause, because that’s going to lead to future tax increases, something that we know that businesses simply can’t afford here in Connecticut.” The budget did create a new endowment that will pay for early childhood development programs. “We’re happy to see that this expansion happens because getting more people back into the workforce, having them have the ability to afford that childcare in order to go back to work is very important,” Davis said. “We just felt like there was much better ways that we could have funded it and be more sustainable over a longer period of time.” Davis said the session did feature some important “wins” for the business community and state economy. Those bills include reforming the apprenticeship hiring ratios for trades industries, raising the R&D tax credit for bioscience companies, and addressing potentially costly changes to the workers’ compensation system. Davis also highlighted the importance of key permitting reforms and replacing the outdated Transfer Act with new release-based cleanup regulations. “We really see this as one of the biggest economic wins that we’ve had in decades here,” he said. “We’re really looking forward to working with our partners in state government in order to implement them.” Davis did note that there was a lot of focus on preventing costly labor mandates and healthcare policies from being enacted. While the 2025 session may be over, that does not mean the work ends for CBIA’s policy team. They’re working with state agencies to implement the new regulations and other bills. And the team will also spend the coming months engaging with members and legislators. That includes coordinating legislator visits at businesses around the state, listening tours, and reviewing CBIA’s annual Survey of Connecticut Businesses. Those conversations and feedback will help inform CBIA’s policy solutions for the 2026 legislative session. “It’s important for businesses to know that we are here getting your feedback, not only from things that just passed this past session, but also things that you would like to see change going forward,” Davis said. Related Links: CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/ Chris Davis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-c-davis/

For nearly 140 years, Hall Neighborhood House has been a staple in the Bridgeport community. “It’s a busy place,” the community center’s director of development Nick Sentementes told the CBIA BizCast. “We serve about 500 people on a daily basis.” Hall Neighborhood House got its beginning in the 1800s when a woman named Sarah Hall opened her doors to immigrant women and children. Hall helped them find jobs and enroll children in school. Sentementes said over the years, the center expanded to serve people across the east side of Bridgeport. Today, the center features numerous programs for people of all ages from preschool and childcare to elementary, middle, and high school students, as well as a senior center, health and dental clinic, university partnerships, and sports clinics. “It’s busy from 7 am to 9 o’clock in the evening,” Sentementes said. One of the center’s most popular programs is its STEM classroom. “We have 3D printers, we have I-Bots, we have microscopes, and the kids really love it,” Sentementes said. “I think they love STEM as much as they love gym.” And Hall Neighborhood House’s impact goes beyond the center’s walls. The organization is working to bring STEM classrooms to Bridgeport’s public schools. The initiative was started by a prominent donor and named in honor of Alan Wallack, a longtime Bridgeport educator who passed away several years ago. Sentementes said Hall STEM classroom teachers train staff at the schools and provide the curriculum and equipment at no cost to the schools. “The goal was to put a STEM classroom in all 30 of the Bridgeport K through eight public schools, and today, there are 22,” he said. “We have eight more to go, and we've had nothing but great results and good publicity regarding it.” Sentementes joined the center after a 30-year career in the banking industry. “I wanted to do something else,” he said. He joined Hall Neighborhood House after speaking with executive director Bob Dzurenda. “I found a sense of camaraderie," Sentementes said. “Everyone's helping each other, sharing their thoughts and ideas, best practices, and everyone's looking to assist each other.” The center has about 120 employees—Sentementes said many of them used the center as kids. “It’s kind of a family environment,” he said. As director of development, Sentementes works with businesses, executives, and philanthropic organizations to build support for Hall Neighborhood House. And he said the response from the business community has been great. “The most rewarding for me is going out and meeting interesting, successful, generous, philanthropic people that want to help, and that makes it worthwhile,” he said. Sentementes said it’s a busy time as the center looks to expand. “We have a waiting list for all our programs, so we're in the process of trying to add 10,000 square feet to our building,” he said. They’re also looking into the possibility of using a piece of property next door to add a soccer field, a playground, or a splash pad for the kids. Sentementes called Hall Neighborhood House a “hidden gem” and said it’s his job to make sure people know what the center is all about. “Our mission is to educate, empower, and enrich the local residents of the east side of Bridgeport,” he said. “So we're bringing in people, and I really don't have to say much—the place kind of speaks for itself.” Related Links: Hall Neighborhood House Website: https://hallneighborhoodhouse.org/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hall-neighborhood-house-inc./ Nick Sentementes LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-sentementes/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

The landscape surrounding tariffs and international trade has been at the forefront of conversations since President Donald Trump came back into office in January. Within the last week, the U.S. and China agreed to a temporary pause on triple-digit tariffs as the two countries work to negotiate a trade deal. Despite the pause, the administration’s tariff policies and trade negotiations have led to increasing uncertainty for businesses. To get a better understanding of tariffs and their impact on businesses in Connecticut, Ulbrich Steel board chair Chris Ulbrich joined CBIA president and CEO Chris DiPentima May 5 on the CBIA BizCast. Ulbrich Steel imports about 30% of its products from outside the U.S. including China and Europe. “We’re trying hard to figure this all out,” Ulbrich said. And Ulbrich added that the economy is just starting to feel the increased costs from the tariffs. Ulbrich said the company recently shipped metal from China at $100 a pound, but by the time it reached the U.S. the actual cost was closer to $300 a pound. He added that the only company in the U.S. that makes the product sells it for $400 a pound, leaving companies with a difficult decision to make. “Then the trick is—the domestic producers—are they going to tailor what they need?” Ulbrich asked. “Will we start seeing them increasing their prices?” Ulbrich added that they are currently “a couple million dollars behind” with costs that haven’t moved down the supply chain. But he said the added costs of tariffs will impact customers. Ulbrich said the way their supply chain flows, it can take six-to-eight weeks for them to bring in raw materials and another six-to-eight weeks to get it out of their facility to the customer. “You’ve got to make the product,” Ulbrich said. “You’ve got to collect the money from the customer.” Ulbrich said adding to the unknowns is what happens to the products they ship to China from Connecticut. “All our orders are basically on hold because the customer, the Chinese customers, do not want to pay 145% tariff on our product,” he said at the time of the recording. Ulbrich said he can see positives from Trump administration trade policies. “We are seeing reshoring,” he said. “People want to buy from the U.S. So there are jobs coming back.” Still, Ulbrich said that reshoring brings its own set of challenges and uncertainty. A lot of the materials they use are not made here, noting that 90% of stainless steel rod is imported. “You don’t build a billion-dollar steel mill here overnight,” he said. Ulbrich also said that a big concern is finding the workforce needed to take on the potential new demand. “Even if all this works, and they negotiate great treaties this week and in the months ahead, and more reasonable tariffs are put in, we need a workforce,” he said. “Where are the people going to come from?” With 82,000 open jobs, Connecticut is already dealing with a labor shortage. Ulbrich said the state can help by addressing important issues like housing, workers’ compensation, and finding ways to develop and get polluted sites back on municipal tax rolls. “I’ve heard Gov. Lamont say, ‘76,000 people, if we can find jobs for those people, that’s 76,000 people paying taxes,’ and it’s wonderful,” Ulbrich said. As the tariff situation unfolds, Ulbrich said its important for business leaders to meet with their employees regularly. “Everybody knows,” he said. “They see on the plant floor maybe the jobs are half what they used to be. “Full communication, I think, helps so much.” Related Links: Ulbrich Website: https://www.ulbrich.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ulbrich-stainless-steels-&-special-metals/ Chris Ulbrich LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-ulbrich-66a21b11/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

Twenty five years ago this summer, The Latimer Group CEO Dean Brenner thought he’d be in crunch time training for the Olympics in Sydney, Australia.  He was sailing professionally and he and his wife quit their day jobs because they thought he had a shot.  While their second place Olympic selection trial finish wasn’t the outcome they’d hoped for, it led them on a journey to starting their own business, one that is thriving, and helping other teams achieve their goals.  “One door closes, another door opens is the cliche,” said Brenner on the CBIA BizCast.  Brenner and his wife, Emily, built their business around their strengths and what they believed in–the power of effective communication. Today, The Latimer Group employs 15 people and works with corporations around the world to provide training and coaching to people and teams on powerful and persuasive communication skills.

Lawrence Ward will mark his first year as University of Hartford president in July. Ward sat down with the CBIA BizCast to discuss his journey to lead UHart, his first year, and his goals for the university. UHart is something of a homecoming for Ward, who grew up in Vernon and graduated from the University of Connecticut. Ward’s career actually started in sales and marketing at Aetna. But said the “seeds for being an educator were first planted as a young child.” Ward said growing up, he looked up to his mother—a high school social studies teacher. With the help of several mentors, Ward shifted to consulting for an organizational training company, and ultimately becoming an associate dean at American University and a dean and vice president at Babson College. Ward said he was drawn to UHart's ethos of being a private university that works to serve the public good. He also said coming back to Hartford was a full-circle moment for his family. Ward’s grandmother, who didn’t have more than an eighth grade education, worked as a chambermaid to help put three children through school. “The only thing that makes my story possible, and that of my family, is the promise of higher education,” he said. “So it's really important, it's very personal, and it is a tremendous honor to come back as president.” Ward became president during a period of transition for the university. That includes post-COVID financial realities and the controversial decision to shift from Division I to Division III athletics. “I have a challenge of rebuilding confidence in this institution and rebuilding confidence in ourself organizationally,” he said. “That’s a cultural challenge.” Ward said its been important to him to be present, engaged, and accessible to really understand the community. "I really prided myself on these first nine months, on doing exactly that," he said. "I have been really heartened by the university community's response to me and my leadership." Ward said his immediate goal is to make UHart a preferred destination for students and families. A big part of that is developing programs that prepare students for in-demand careers like nursing, robotics, and business. “We've got some really strong market-facing in-demand programs, and we need to match that with really high-quality student focused experience on campus,” he said. To do that, Ward said they are stepping up their efforts to engage with companies to create unique partnerships that will create career pipelines for students, benefitting the businesses and the university. Ward said as the university evolves, it’s important they live up to their name and help lift up the Hartford community. “We feel as though we have a responsibility as a University of Hartford to be supportive,” he said. “Success for the region will mean success for the University of Hartford.” The CBIA BizCast is made possible through the generous support of Google. Please rate, review, and subscribe to the BizCast wherever you get your podcasts—we appreciate your support! If you have a story to tell, contact Amanda Marlow. Related Links: University of Hartford Website: https://www.hartford.edu/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/school/university-of-hartford/ Lawrence Ward on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrencepward/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

CBIA BizCast: Mentoring Next-Generation Talent How do you interest students in a career they may not know anything about? That’s a question the team at Mercer Investments is working to answer. Mercer principal Siddhartha Kalita joined the CBIA BizCast to highlight the company’s mentorship program, designed to inspire high students from disadvantaged backgrounds to explore financial services careers. Kalita said the initiative was created to bring the concept of financial awareness and career opportunities to young people while they’re still in school. “I had a good foundation at home,” Kalita said. “My parents pushed me to a math program, and that helped me to get that first, first head start into this world of financial industries. Not everyone has that background.” To put the initiative into action, Mercer connected with several schools including Wilbur Cross High School in New Haven. They then built a three-phase program: Phase 1: Employees visit the school to tell students about careers in financial services. Phase 2: Interested students visit Mercer’s Norwalk office to see firsthand what a financial services career entails. Phase 3: Mercer mentors work one-on-one with a small group of students on a research project that gives them about 50 hours of hands-on experience. About five students end up completing the program each year, which is now in its third year. Kalita said he'll know the program is a success when one of the students joins the workforce. “We try to bring them to the reality of what they have in the future when they get out of college, if they go to college, and then how could they be really happy in life,” Kalita said. Kalita said the program is part of Mercer’s long-term efforts to build a diverse and inclusive workforce. “Inclusion is in the genes of our organization,” he said. “This is one way for our company and for us to contribute back to the society, to actually create a diverse pool that one day will become the employment pool.” Related Links: Mercer Website: https://www.mercer.com/en-us/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mercer/ Siddhartha Kalita on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddhartha-kalita/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/ The CBIA BizCast is made possible through the generous support of Google. Please rate, review, and subscribe to the BizCast wherever you get your podcasts—we appreciate your support! If you have a story to tell, contact Amanda Marlow. Related Links: Mercer Website: https://www.mercer.com/en-us/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mercer/ Siddhartha Kalita on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddhartha-kalita/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

When you think about restaurants and dining experiences, you probably don’t think about insurance companies. But that’s exactly who is behind one of Hartford’s new destination restaurants. Hartford Steam Boiler recently opened The Foundry on the 20th floor of One State Street in downtown Hartford. “We consider one State Street to be one of the preeminent buildings in Harford,” HSB president and CEO Greg Barats told the CBIA BizCast. “We've always had a top tier restaurant in here.” Those restaurants include The Polytechnic Club and On20. Like many restaurants, On20 closed during the COVID-19 pandemic. Nearly five years later, Barats said now was the right time to reopen. “We've been seeing an ongoing reinvestment in the downtown Hartford area,” Barats said. “A lot of other restaurants opening in the area, small businesses opening, more people coming back. We thought, okay, this is the time to do it.” Barats said they used the opportunity to reimagine the restaurant space and pay tribute to the company’s history and the city’s “can do” spirit. “We wanted to make a statement,” he said. “We want to give something back to the community and the capital that I think everybody can be proud of.” The Foundry offers a dining room with panoramic views of the city and multiple spaces that can be used as meeting spaces. Barats said the design honors the city’s industrial and manufacturing heritage. The restaurant also has several nods to HSB’s background, with rooms and areas dedicated to the company’s 158-year history. One room, The Sultana Room, pays tribute to a maritime disaster that led to the company’s founding in 1866. The Sultana was a steamship that was bringing prisoners home after the Civil War. Tragically, the ship was overloaded and its two steam boilers exploded, leading to the single largest maritime loss in U.S. history. Because of that tragedy, the Polytechnic Club, a group of engineers, formed HSB to solve the engineering design flaws. “We feel this restaurant's got a soul and we try to bring that through,” Barats said about the importance of leaning into their history. To help realize the vision of The Foundry, Barats and his team turned to a familiar face to lead the kitchen. Executive chef Jeffrey Lizotte is a Connecticut-native and the previous executive chef of On20. “We interviewed a lot of other chefs in the area,” Barats said. “Jeffrey was our pick. He's a hometown boy. He does exceptional work. He's just a great person, and we think he matched us very well.” Chef Lizotte’s team has created a menu that Barats described as American Contemporary with a little European flair. “Very familiar dishes, but with more of an elevated, exceptional add to it,” he said. While its doors have been open for several weeks, The Foundry celebrated its grand opening March 11 with Lt. Gov. Susan Bysiewicz and Hartford Mayor Arunan Arulampalam. Barats said they’ve been embraced by the community and the restaurant is booked 40 days in advance. Barats said HSB’s and The Foundry's goal is to be part of the community and help Hartford’s resurgence. “I think the more you're involved in, the live, work, play in a city, the more vibrant it can be,” he said. He said with restaurants like The Foundry and others, along with new housing, hotels, and street commerce, the city is returning to that vibrancy. “Every day, every week, every month, we try to be part of that,” he said. “I hope it continues to bring pride, you know, and something to look forward to and come and enjoy here in Hartford.” Related Links: Hartford Steam Boiler Website: https://www.munichre.com/hsb/en.html LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hsb/ Greg Barats LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-barats/ The Foundry Website: https://thefoundryct.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefoundryct/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

Dr. Albert Green has spent his career at the intersection of technology and economic development. “I often refer to myself as bilingual, because I kind of speak both languages fluently,” he told the CBIA BizCast. QuantumCT just announced Green as its new CEO. The Connecticut public-private partnership is working to drive the adoption of quantum computing technologies and position Connecticut as a hub for research, technology development, and jobs. The University of Connecticut and Yale University-led partnership is competing for up to $160 million in funding as part of a National Science Foundation competition. “When I first learned about QuantumCT and what Connecticut was doing in this space, it just fit exactly what I'd done my entire career,” Green said. That career includes a PhD in physics from Stanford, more than 20 patents, and leading several technology companies. Green said it’s an exciting time to be part of the quantum ecosystem in part because of the building excitement surrounding the technology. “If you look at popular culture, you see all these movies like Quantumania and stuff,” he said. “Leveraging that excitement is kind of cool.” He compared the technology to what we’re seeing with the growth of artificial intelligence. ““I'm a firm believer that quantum technologies and quantum computing is where AI was 10 years ago,” Green said. “The regions that really drove that have to turn away people. And the idea is for us to do the same thing with quantum technologies.” With QuantumCT, Green said Connecticut is perfectly positioned to build an ecosystem that will make the region the Silicon Valley of the quantum economy. “It's higher ed, it's workforce, and it's our business community,” said Green. “What we're trying to do is to create essentially a mechanism that allows these organizations to effectively collaborate in this area that we see is coming, and that's really the core mission of QuantumCT.” Green said it was that workforce, higher education system, and culture of collaboration that attracted him to the role. “I've been a part of many different ecosystems,” he said. “The ability for those three elements to work together, I saw here in Connecticut—mainly the ability of the large R1 research institutions to work with the state government, and also the workforce to really bring these new innovations to the marketplace—was exciting.” With QuantumCT, Green said he hopes to capitalize on that collaboration and engage with the business community to put a framework in place that will grow Connecticut’s quantum economy. He said some of Connecticut’s biggest industries like defense, advanced manufacturing, and finance give the state a leg up because they’ve been early adopters of new technology. “Regions that tend to thrive, there is an ecosystem around large anchor corporations,” Green said. “What's really, really important is that the large institutions, the large anchor organizations and companies, view and recognize the importance of those smaller new [companies]. “They recognize that importance by being early adopters, by being helpful and in partnering with them for government grants, engaging with them.” Green said that while there’s a lot of work to do, he’s excited about what QuantumCT means for the future of Connecticut’s economy and workforce. “Ultimately,” he said, “we win when the seven year old says, ‘Oh, wow, I want to work in something associated with quantum,’ when that's no longer a mystery.” “The idea here is that QuantumCT really is about building that ecosystem that accomplishes that goal.” Related Links: QuantumCT Website: https://quantumct.org/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/quantumct/ Dr. Albert Green LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/albert-m-green/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

Since the day it launched as Rebel Interactive in 2013, Rebellion Group has strived to do things differently. “I saw an opportunity to build an agency that was focused around disruption,” Rebellion Group CEO and owner Bryn Tindall told the CBIA BizCast. Tindall and senior vice president of client services Sam Barrett joined the BizCast to highlight the company’s evolution and the growth of its Shaping CT’s Future event series. The agency works with businesses for services including marketing, advertising, brand awareness, video production, customer engagement, and website development. “If you’re going to do great things in life, then you have to believe you have it in you to do it,” Tindall said. “And we were associating the word rebel with that inner essence, that inner belief that you could do amazing things.” The rebel spirit extends not only to the name of the company and the workforce—team members are known as rebels—but also to the physical space. The company themed every room in their Cheshire office after a well known rebel from history or pop culture. “It’s an environment that is fun to work in. You feel good when you’re in a good place,” said Barrett, who joined the company in 2023 just before they rebranded as Rebellion Group. Tindall said that rebrand was the next evolution of the company. “There’s a maturation that occurred,” he said. “So the version of today is a much more grown up version of what started 13 years ago.” “I feel like our aesthetic, the way we talk about ourselves, there’s that sense of depth and nuance,” Barrett added. “I think that lends itself to us being in conversations that potentially we weren’t in years ago.” Some of those conversations are happening in the form of Rebellion’s Shaping CT’s Future. The event series brings together stakeholders and thought leaders to dive into different important topics in the state. “We were in a perfect position to start to do something different and meaningful, to affect people’s lives, to benefit them,” Tindall said. “We have these organizations pitching in, coming in, willing to lend their thoughts, their time, their expertise, and I think it starts to become a coalition,” Barrett added. In its first year, the series grew from about 90 people to bring in hundreds of people to Rebellion’s event space. “I don’t think that we produce conferences,” Barrett said. “I like to say that we produce experiences.” “And so we want people to network. We want them to have a drink. We want to have intelligent conversation.” Tindall and Barrett said they are focusing on building on the momentum from their events to develop broader solutions. “There has to be next. We have to be able to have a path forward from here,” Tindall said. The second year of Shaping CT’s Future begins with a deep dive into the future of AI and cybersecurity. “We’re going to start generating themes, conduct in-depth analysis, and ultimately, recommendations, and that is a tangible product from the event,” Barret said. Rebellion is partnering with GreatBlue Research to capture data from the event. They also partnered with Fox 61 to live stream the event and so a broader audience can take part. “If we can get people in the room that can help inform what’s going on with important topics that are influencing business decisions, then our clients can be more successful,” Barrett added. “Ultimately, if Connecticut’s more successful then so are we.” Related Links: Rebellion Group Website: https://rebelliongroup.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rebelliongroup/ Bryn Tindall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryntindall/ Sam Barrett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrettsamuel/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

The Lee Company president and CEO Marietta Lee never saw herself leading the business her grandfather started 77 years ago. Today, the Westbrook-based manufacturer employs 1,200 people making miniature hydraulic components for the aerospace, medical, and automotive industries. “We are a family business,” Lee told the CBIA BizCast. “We’ve always treated our employees as our family and we’ve benefited from a lot of loyalty from our employees over the years.” But Lee, who was elected CBIA board chair in December 2024, started her career journey not just outside the family business, but far from the manufacturing floor. “It really wasn’t my dream to work there at all,” she said. “I went off to school and became a lawyer.” “I worked in TV news for a long time, that was what I wanted to do.” After several years working as an investigative journalist and having children, Lee moved back to Connecticut to be closer to family. “My dad came to me and said, ‘Have you ever thought about working at the company?’” she explained. After a lot of “soul searching” she decided to join the family business. Lee worked her way up, including earning a master’s degree in engineering management. “I worked in a lot of different facets of the company on my way to where I am now, which has been really invaluable,” she said. Lee became CEO of the company in 2023, but she points to the COVID-19 pandemic as a turning point in her career. Lee said she not only worried about her workers’ safety, but about getting groceries for her family as so many stores were impacted. “Somebody said, ‘How are you doing?’ And I just lost it,” she said. “I was like, ‘I am not good. I go home, I cry.’ I just totally let down my guard. “And the woman looked at me, and she was like ‘me too.’ And we had the best conversation.” Lee she’d previously emulated the styles of those that came before her, which she perceived as stoic and strong. “It sort of dawned on me that I need to be authentic. I need to be me.” she said. “I don’t have to be somebody else’s leader or lead the way somebody else does. I can be myself. It was refreshing.” Lee said that by being authentic and vulnerable, she works to empower the people that work for her. “I think people respond to it. And I make better decisions as a result,” she said. Lee acknowledged that being a woman in manufacturing isn’t easy. “I am usually the only woman at the table, and that’s kind of a lonely place,” she said. She said that when she joined The Lee Company, there were a lot of women, including young mothers. But there were not a lot of women in middle and upper management—something that has changed during her tenure. Lee also started “The Ladies of Lee,” an informal group that gets together every few months to talk about issues unique to being a woman in the workforce. “It’s always going to be tough, but to know that you have a little bit of a support system at work, I think is really great,” she said. Lee’s term as board chair comes at an historic time for CBIA and a pivotal moment for the state’s economy. “For the first time ever, we have more women than men on the board, which is really great,” she said. Lee said the diversity of the board of directors is critical, not just when it comes to gender, but also the size of the companies and the different industries represented. “Connecticut, I think, is in a really good place right now, and we have a great opportunity to make Connecticut even better for our business community,” she said. “I think it’s very important that we work hard to make Connecticut an affordable state for both potential employees and for businesses.” Related Links: The Lee Company Website: https://www.theleeco.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-lee-company/ Marietta Lee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marietta-lee-17729410a/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

With the start of the 2025 General Assembly session, the CBIA BizCast team sat down with CBIA vice president of public policy Chris Davis to discuss the session and CBIA’s ReimagineCT policy solutions. Supported by a bipartisan group of 73 lawmakers and a growing coalition of businesses, the policy solutions are designed to drive economic growth, address the high costs of living and running a business, expand career pathways, and foster innovation. "If legislators were able to really sit back and think about, 'Is this making Connecticut more affordable, and is it making easier to employ people here in Connecticut,' I think you'll see a lot of good legislation get passed," Davis said. CBIA developed the solutions in collaboration with residents and business leaders from across the state. “What’s really impressed me is the level of engagement that our business community has, especially around public policy issues,” Davis said. “These are items that they have said to us, ‘If we can implement these changes, we can really start moving the needle here in Connecticut to grow our economy and improve our workforce.’” Davis said the ReimagineCT policy solutions are a way to build coalitions around critical issues to the business community. “It's a way for us to really have those conversations across party lines about these real solutions that will really grow our economy and our workforce," Davis said. "Because at the end of the day, that's not a partisan issue. “Trying to get your constituents more access to jobs and trying to help those businesses within their communities, is something that transcends party.” While Davis and the CBIA’s policy team will be advocating for these solutions at the State Capitol, he said CBIA members and the business community also play an important role. “One of the key things that we do on our public policy team is getting out and meeting with members,” he said. “We oftentimes will bring a legislator with us and have them have the opportunity to see firsthand exactly how that business operates here in Connecticut. “Hearing directly from your own constituent business can play such a huge role in your decision making process as a legislator.” Related Links: ReimagineCT: https://www.cbia.com/news/media-center/reimaginect-cbia-2025-policy-solutions-2 https://www.cbia.com/resources/issues-policies/reimaginect-general-assembly-pledges CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

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On any given day after school, you might think kids would rather play than to keep going to class. But in a way, that’s just what’s happening at the Wakeman Boys & Girls Club’s new STEM lab at their Madison Avenue community clubhouse in Bridgeport. The organization gave the CBIA BizCast team an up-close look at the space that they built in partnership with global semiconductor industry leader ASML. “We have about 50 to 75 kids, depending on the day, that are coming in regularly, to use our space,” said Wakeman Boys & Girls Club CEO Sabrina Smeltz. “When you have the opportunity to see the students in the kids in this space, they look like they're playing, but they're learning,” said ASML program manager for society and community engagement Brian Amero. “They're actively learning. They’re problem solving.” The Wakeman Boys & Girls Club first opened its doors in Southport in 1913. The organization opened its first location in Bridgeport about 15 years ago, and opened the Madison Ave. clubhouse in 2023. The facility offers programs for kids aged three up to 18, with an early learning preschool center and after school programs including sports, arts, technology, and STEM. “It's a community center, it's a partnership, and it's an awesome space,” said Smeltz. Wakeman’s relationship with ASML began a few years ago. The Netherlands-based company, which employs 3,300 people at its Wilton location, is an advanced lithography company that makes machines used to produce microchips. Amero, who started with the company in 2022, was looking to build new community partnerships. “It's not enough for us to write a check, slap our logo on something, and walk away from it,” Amero said. “We wanted a seat at the table. This entire process has been incredibly hands-on for us.” That partnership led to the creation of the STEM lab. “There's been a lot of intentionality around this,” Smeltz said. “We both went into this being transformational.” “We built in staff time and training time to be able to be successful, because ultimately, we don't want a whole bunch of stuff just sitting in a room. ”We want it to be used all the time.” Smelz said ASML helped them train their staff to run the lab, which offers everything from robotics to hydroponics, mechanics, engineering, and STEM art learning opportunities. “We're challenging our kids to learn,” she said. And it’s not just Wakeman staff that are getting hands on with the kids. ASML employees also spend a lot of time volunteering at the club. The company provides eight hours of PTO time for full-time employees to volunteer. “When the students here have the opportunity to engage with ASML employees, they see themselves reflected in our workforce,” Amero said. “And if they can do it, so can you. And I love that secondary benefit to giving back to our community." Smeltz said the skills the students are gaining in the lab go beyond learning technical skills. “Sometimes these projects don't go the way they planned,” she said. “And I think that sometimes is even the more exciting part of it, because our kids are learning in a day-to-day environment that isn't scripted, but is helping them learn how to solve the problem, deal with conflict.” “The skills that they're learning in this lab are the skills that will help elevate them to jobs and career success,” Amero added “It is absolutely magic. It's just great to see.” Related Links: Wakeman Boys & Girls Club Website: https://www.wakemanclub.org/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wakeman-boys-girls-club/ Sabrina Smeltz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabrinasmeltz/ ASML Website: https://www.asml.com/en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/asml/ Brian Amero on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bamero/ CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/

Over the course of this past year, we’ve spoken with some exceptional leaders on the CBIA BizCast. Some are entrepreneurs, growing successful businesses. Others are changemakers, leading organizations with lasting legacies in Connecticut. These leaders have not only shared their stories, but also insights and wisdom into overcoming challenges, building successful teams. To close out 2024, we wanted to share some of those stories. This episode features insights from: Jeremy Bronen, founder and CEO, SedMed Stephen Tagliatela, managing partner, and Chris Bird, general manager, Saybrook Point Resort & Marina Jill Mayer, CEO, Bead Industries Inc. Meghan Scanlon, president and CEO, Connecticut Coalition Against Domestic Violence Stephen Moroney, market president for Connecticut and Rhode Island, TD Bank Mike Abramson, General Manager, Hartford Yard Goats Jamie Lissette, president, Popup Bagels Kevin Barros, president and CEO, The Computer Company Jenny Drescher and Ellen Feldman Ornato, co-founders, The Bolder Company Carmen Romeo, president, Fascia’s Chocolates Elona Shape, market retail leader, KeyBank Sal Marino, director of finance and operations, Charles IT Carl Zuanelli, founder and CEO, Nuovo Pasta Productions, Ltd Thank you to all of the leaders who sat down with us this year. And we want to thank you for listening and watching the BizCast. We look forward to sharing more insights, lessons, and stories of success in 2025. Connect with CBIA Website: https://www.cbia.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cbia/