Legally Speaking Podcast

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In this double-bill minisode, we get to speak to both Jonathan Watson & John Foreman. Jonathan Watson, Clio’s Chief Technology Officer, and John Foreman, the company’s Chief Product Officer, are driving the next chapter of Clio’s innovation. With Jonathan’s eight years of engineering leadership and John’s product expertise from Mailchimp, they combine deep technical insight with a passion for simplicity and user experience. Together, they’re shaping Clio’s Intelligent Legal Work Platform — making legal technology more powerful, secure, and human-centred than ever before.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, John and Jonathan discussing:- An Inside Look Into Clio’s Intelligent Legal Work Platform- From Chat to Action: How Clio’s AI Redefines Legal Productivity- The Data and Discipline Behind Vincent by Clio- Listening at Scale: Turning Global Feedback into Smarter Products- Clio’s Vision for AI Teammates Across the Legal WorkflowConnect with Jonathan Watson here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/jonathanmwatsonConnect with John Foreman here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnwforeman

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In the third minisode of this series, Curt Sigfstead returns as our guest. Curt is the Chief Financial Officer at Clio. He is responsible for managing Clioʼs financial affairs, including finance, accounting, capital, treasury, taxation, and corporate development. With over two decades of technology finance experience, he has held numerous senior finance leadership roles at companies including Clearco and J.P. Morgan. He sits on multiple nonprofit boards including C100, which supports Canadian technology entrepreneurs through investment and mentorship.   So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Curt discussing:- Building for Today, Investing for Tomorrow- Driving Through the Fog: Leading with Clarity in Uncertainty- Going Beyond the Balance Sheet and Measuring What Truly Matters- AI in Action: Transforming the Finance Engine- Preparation Meets Opportunity: The Timeless Rule of FinanceConnect with Curt Sigfstead here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtsigfstead

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In this minisode, we get to speak with Ronnie Gurion. Ronnie is the Chief Operating Officer (COO) of Clio, where he oversees global operations, strategy and organisational scaling for one of the world’s leading legal technology companies. With an impressive background at major tech innovators like Uber and Airbnb, Ronnie brings deep expertise in guiding high-growth organizations through transformative expansion. At Clio, he’s played a pivotal role in maintaining the company’s award-winning culture, driving international growth and leading strategic moves such as the acquisitions of vLex and ShareDo—marking Clio’s bold entry into the enterprise legal market. Known for his hands-on leadership style and focus on long-term impact over short-term gains, Ronnie exemplifies Clio’s mission to transform the legal experience for all.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Ronnie discussing:- How Clio Balances Growth with Focus and Culture- Enterprise Ambitions: Inside Clio’s Bold Leap Beyond SMB Law- The Culture and Hiring Philosophy Behind Clio’s Success- How ronnie Builds Winning Mindsets for Long-Term Impact- Charting the Future: Diversification, Integration, and the Road to IPOConnect with Ronnie Gurion here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rgurion

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Nnamdi Emelifeonwu. Nnamdi is the Co-Founder & CEO of Definely. Named as 1 of the 50 fastest-growing tech companies, Definitely was founded by two former Magic Circle Lawyers. Nnamdi, a former Trainee Solicitor and Associate at Freshfields Bruchhaus Deringer, and his Co-Founder Feargus MacDaeid, set out to make legal documents more accessible with drafting, reviewing and understanding legal files.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Nnamdi discussing:- How Definely Was Born from a Visually Impaired Lawyer’s Challenge- Definely’s Mission to Make Legal Information Effortless to Understand- How Nnamdi and Feargus’ Practice Empowering the Modern Lawyer- Transforming Legal Contracts and Workflows to be More Streamlined- How Definely’s Customer-Centric Approach is Built with Lawyers, for LawyersConnect with Nnamdi Emelifeonwu here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nnamdiemelifeonwu/

Welcome to Clio Con Clips 2025, recorded live from Boston and proudly sponsored by Clio, the world’s leading legal technology company transforming the legal experience for all.In this exciting new miniseries, we kick things off at Clio Con in Boston by speaking to Jesse Harink and Nefra MacDonald. Nefra leads the team behind ClioCon, virtual events, field activations, and over 100 bar association partnerships worldwide. Known for her attention to detail and passion for delivering seamless, engaging experiences, she views ClioCon as a way to welcome thousands like guests to a meaningful, memorable event. Speaking is her happy place, and she thrives on creating inclusive, impactful environments. Jesse plays a key role in helping new team members integrate into Clio’s culture — especially during acquisitions. At ClioCon, he ensures energy is high, people feel included, and the human side of the event shines. As a co-host, he thrives in the spotlight, seeing his role as both guide and connector, helping attendees feel informed, welcomed, and excited throughout the experience.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Jesse and Nefra discussing:- Clio Con 2025: An Immersive, Attendee-Centered Experience- The Amazing Teamwork That Happens Behind the Scenes- Inclusivity and Wellbeing at the Core of Clio- The Importance of Building Community Through Connection- How to Be Always Planning, Always InnovatingConnect with Jesse Harink here - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/jesseharinkConnect with Nefra MacDonald here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nefra-macdonald/

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Monica Zent. Monica is the Principal at the Law Innovation Agency and Founder & CEO of ZentLaw. She is a pioneering legal industry innovator, Legal Tech expert and Digital Innovation Strategist, with nearly 3 decades as an investor, successful entrepreneur and legal industry thought leader. Monica is passionate about driving transformation in legal operations and technology adoption.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Monica discussing:- Monica’s Pioneering Role in Legal Tech and Innovation- Dual Leadership in ZentLaw and the Law Innovation Agency- Focus on Predictive Analytics and AI in Legal Tech- Advisory and Thought Leadership Work with an Innovation Mindset- Helping Organisations Innovate SafelyConnect with Monica Zent here - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/monicazent/⁠

Welcome to the Legally On the Move Festival of Entrepreneurs miniseries, recording live here from the Birmingham NEC. We're going to be diving into some of the sharpest minds across the UK, some of the top CEO, some of the top cutting edge businesses for an exciting, fast-paced series. So stay tuned, get excited and looking forward to delivering even more from the show.In the final episode of this miniseries, we get to speak with Tre Lowe. Tre is an entrepreneur, music producer and founder of SOBO Club. He first rose to fame as part of the UK garage scene with the iconic hit "Body Groove", which continues to generate significant royalties today. With a background in the music industry, Tre has deep experience in copyright, royalties, and the importance of owning intellectual property. In recent years, Tre has transitioned into entrepreneurship, appearing on BBC’s The Apprentice and launching new ventures focused on community and impact. His personal journey—especially following the loss of his brother in 2020—has inspired a philosophy of living with urgency and purpose. At 50, he’s also a new father, embodying resilience, reinvention, and gratitude in both business and life. Stay tuned for the insights that he and our panel of surprise experts have to share as we say goodbye to this year’s Festival of Entrepreneurs.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Tre and the panel discussing:- How to Be Fearless but Legally Smart as a Creative- Knowing the Difference: Master Rights vs. Publishing Rights- How to Be Wary of 360 Deals- Streaming Royalties Are Low – Ownership Is Key- Making It as a Founder and Co-FounderConnect with Tre Lowe here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tre-lowe-352035108/

Welcome to the Legally On the Move Festival of Entrepreneurs miniseries, recording live here from the Birmingham NEC. We're going to be diving into some of the sharpest minds across the UK, some of the top CEO, some of the top cutting edge businesses for an exciting, fast-paced series. So stay tuned, get excited and looking forward to delivering even more from the show. In this second minisode of the series, we talk to Clare Moses. She is the Head of Proposition at Barclays Eagle Labs, a division of Barclays that supports entrepreneurs and startups. She played a key role in launching a new digital platform that centralises and organises the wide range of support Barclays offers to founders. Clare emphasises that the aim is to personalise support for entrepreneurs and help grow the UK SME ecosystem, which in turn benefits Barclays as well. She believes in building a connected community of founders and sees events like the Festival of Entrepreneurs as key to bringing that community together. We also have asn additional surprise guest panel after her interview, so do stay tuned afterwards!So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Clare and the panel discussing:- Barclays Eagle Labs Digital Platform- Support for Startups and Legal Tech- Focus on Mentorship and Community- Championing Female Founders- Building Culture to Scale TeamsConnect with Clare Moses here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/clare-moses-0904b629

Welcome to a special, brand new mini series of the Legally Speaking Podcast, legally on the move Mercedes world, powered by Clio, the engine driving the future of legal tech and innovation.On our third and final minisode, we get to round off this miniseries with Stefano Pratesi. He is the founder of SP1 IT Solutions, specializing in legal tech solutions and Duckworth migration for law firms. With experience as an IT director in the legal sector, he has collaborated with Clio since its entry into the EMEA market and is recognized for his innovation and leadership within the legal technology space. Stay tuned after this episode, as we have more exciting Clio content planned for you soon, over and out!So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Stefano discussing:- Driving Innovation in Mid-Sized Law Firms- Embracing Automation and Legal Technology- Advice for Future-Proofing Legal Practices- Cybersecurity and Client Feedback: Key Challenges- Event Highlights and Inspiring Experiences at Mercedes Benz WorldConnect with Stefano Pratesi here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/stefanopratesisp1itsolutions

Welcome to a special, brand new mini series of the Legally Speaking Podcast, legally on the move Mercedes world, powered by Clio, the engine driving the future of legal tech and innovation.On our third and final minisode, we get to round off this miniseries with Stefano Pratesi. He is the founder of SP1 IT Solutions, specializing in legal tech solutions and Duckworth migration for law firms. With experience as an IT director in the legal sector, he has collaborated with Clio since its entry into the EMEA market and is recognized for his innovation and leadership within the legal technology space. Stay tuned after this episode, as we have more exciting Clio content planned for you soon, over and out!So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Stefano discussing:- Driving Innovation in Mid-Sized Law Firms- Embracing Automation and Legal Technology- Advice for Future-Proofing Legal Practices- Cybersecurity and Client Feedback: Key Challenges- Event Highlights and Inspiring Experiences at Mercedes Benz WorldConnect with Stefano Pratesi here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/stefanopratesisp1itsolutions

Welcome to the Legally On the Move Festival of Entrepreneurs miniseries, recording live here from the Birmingham NEC. We're going to be diving into some of the sharpest minds across the UK, some of the top CEO, some of the top cutting edge businesses for an exciting, fast-paced series. So stay tuned, get excited and looking forward to delivering even more from the show.In this first episode of our brand-new miniseries, we get to speak to Piers Linney and a panel of mystery guests. Each episode will feature a panel involving several of guest speakers from the event. Piers is a former investor on BBC’s Dragons’ Den, a qualified lawyer, and a serial entrepreneur. He is the Co-founder and Executive Chairman of Implement AI, a company that helps businesses adopt and integrate AI to enhance operations, revenue, and customer experiences. Piers is a vocal advocate for AI implementation over hype, urging businesses to take action now during the early "dial-up" phase of AI. He believes AI will soon automate both cognitive and physical labour, radically transforming work and the economy. He’s also passionate about helping founders and legal professionals future-proof their careers and organizations through practical, ROI-driven AI adoption.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob, Piers and the panel discussing:- Implementing AI, Rather Than Just Talking About It- The Fact That We're in the “Dial-Up” Stage of AI (Day One)- Upcoming Career Shifts — Especially for Lawyers & Professionals- The Future of Work Being Redefined- How AI-First Founders Will Outpace the RestConnect with Piers Linney here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/pierslinney

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Marcin Durlak.  Marcin is the Managing Partner and Co-Founder of IMD Solicitors LLP, an award-winning boutique firm recognised for its culture-first leadership and bold innovations. He and his wife and business partner,were jointly named Managing Partners of the Year at the 2025 ModernLaw Awards, after pioneering a 4-day working week with 100% pay whilst achieving record growth and world-class satisfaction. Passionate about culture-first leadership, Marcin is redefining what success looks like in the legal industry. From arriving in the UK with 1 suitcase to running an award-winning firm, his story is proof that bold ideas can transform both business and lives.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Marcin discussing:- Pioneering a Four-Day Work Week in Legal Practice- Building IMD Solicitors: From Language Skills to Award-Winning Firm- Overcoming Challenges and Embracing Continuous Improvement- Leveraging Technology and Innovation for Growth- Cultivating Culture, Team, and Balanced Firm ExpansionConnect with Marcin Durlak here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcin-durlak

Welcome to a special, brand new mini series of the Legally Speaking Podcast, legally on the move Mercedes world, powered by Clio, the engine driving the future of legal tech and innovation.On our second minisode, we speak with Natalie O’Keeffe. She is the Director of Sales, EMEA at Clio, where she plays a pivotal role in organising and delivering impactful events for the legal community. At Mercedes Benz World, Natalie emphasised Clio’s commitment to helping mid-sized law firms innovate and adapt to change. She highlighted the importance of creating environments that inspire new ways of fostering connections among legal professionals. Natalie is passionate about integrating Clio’s product suite into law firms’ daily operations to help them work smarter and she values the opportunity to bring firms together to share ideas and best practices.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Natalie discussing:- Drive to Thrive: Empowering Mid-Sized Law Firms at Mercedes Benz World- Clio’s Vision: Innovating Legal Tech and Supporting Law Firm Growth- Natalie’s Insights and Goals for Inspiring Leadership- Upcoming Highlights: Legal Geek and Clio Con Events- Building Connections: Fostering Collaboration and Best Practices Among Law FirmsConnect with Natalie O’Keeffe here - https://ie.linkedin.com/in/natalieokeeffe

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Amy Clowrey. Amy is a Solictor and the Director of the Child Compensation Team at Switalskis. She is the firm’s Training Principal, responsible for Qualifying Solicitrors, Solicitor Apprentices and Graduate Solitcitor Apprentices. Amy was awarded Lawyer of the Year at the Modern Law Awards 2023 and Rising Star Legal 500 Northern Powerhouse Awards 2024. She is passionate about encouraging and supporting the next generation of lawyers into the legal profession.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Amy discussing:- Amy Clowrey’s Personal And Professional Journey- Implementing Advocacy and Legal Reform- Mental Health in Law and its Importance- Supporting Future Lawyers- Media and Public AdvocacyConnect with Amy Clowrey here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-clowrey/

Welcome to a special, brand new mini series of the Legally Speaking Podcast, Legally on the Move: Mercedes world, powered by Clio, the engine driving the future of legal tech and innovation.On our first minisode, we get the chance to talk to Penny Mallory. She is a leading authority on mental toughness, freelance keynote speaker and inspirational figure. Penny has a background in motorsports, having been a rally driver for 12 years and competing at a high level in the World Rally Championship. After her driving career, she became a TV presenter and now focuses on sharing her experiences and insights on mental toughness. She emphasises the importance of embracing change, building resilience, and encouraging innovation within numerous organisations.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Penny discussing:- Penny Mallory’s Motorsport And Speaking Career - The Importance Of Mental Toughness - Embracing Change And Driving Innovation - Building Teams That Embrace New Ideas - Practical Strategies For Developing ResilienceConnect with Penny Mallory here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/pennymallory

🚨 Lawyers aren’t burning out because they’re weak. They’re burning out because the system rewards depletion. Today on the Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ LinkedIn Live, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Sally Clarke, burnout and wellbeing expert, bestselling author, and ex-corporate finance lawyer who’s now helping others avoid the pain she lived through.Here’s what we covered:⚠️ The 3 biggest myths about burnout in the legal world🧠 The “3-Selfs Framework” every lawyer needs to know📊 Insights from the 2025 State of Workplace Burnout report💡 Why leaders must shift from performative wellbeing to true prevention💬 And why “I’m fine” is often the most dangerous phrase in the profession Sally brought the clarity, compassion, and courage this conversation needed.📚 Go grab Protect Your Spark and Relight Your Spark and check out We Are Human Leaders for more.

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Charlotte Hill. Charlotte is a partner at Penningtons Manches Cooper specialising in commercial dispute resolution, financial services regulation, restructuring and insolvency, described as a next generation partner by the Legal 500, Charlotte is passionate about her work in the sector, and has been awarded Women of the Year, FinTech and crypto innovation UK, at the city wealth power, women awards.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Charlotte discussing:- Charlotte Hill’s Career Journey and Path to Partnership- Building Inclusive Law Firm Culture and Supporting the Next Generation- Navigating Crypto, Digital Assets, and Emerging Tech in Legal Practice- Managing Legal Risk and the Role of AI in Litigation- Regulation, Community, and Advice for Aspiring Solicitors in Commercial DisputesConnect with Charlotte Hill here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/charlottehill-litigation

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, Mitch Jackson, the award-winning trial lawyer and legal tech advocate, discusses the challenges and opportunities of AI in law firms. He highlights a MIT report indicating 95% of AI projects in large companies fail due to lack of adoption. Mitch outlines seven steps for successful AI implementation: understanding the need, starting small, creating an AI sandbox, scaling impact, ensuring privacy and security, empowering teams, and leveraging AI for efficiency. He emphasises the importance of a new leadership mindset, the "centaur" approach blending human expertise with AI, and the need for law firms to stay ahead in AI adoption to enhance client service and firm efficiency.Tune in to hear Rob and Mitch discuss:- How AI Is a Must for Law Firms Now- Discovering the Power of AI Tools- Keeping Up with Rapid AI Growth- Combining AI with Human Skills- Why You Should Small and Set Smart AI PoliciesConnect With Mitch on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchjackson/Follow his 7-Step Roadmap - https://legallyspeakingpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Seven-Steps-to-Leading-with-AI.pdfMitch’s Latest Book: Leading with AI- Seven Steps to Transform Your Business and Empower Your People - https://mitchjackson.xyz/12/leading-with-ai-seven-steps-to-transform-your-business-and-empower-your-people

On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Damien Van Brunschot. Damien is the owner and Principal Consultant of EvolveResolve. Leveraging his own expertise in mediation and leadership coaching, he co-founded, led and scaled boutique firm MVM Legal, later Kaden Boriss. Damien is the former Managing Partner of DWF (Australia). From 2020 to 2024, he’s been named by the Doyles guide as one of the best lawyers in Australia, specialising in workers’ compensation and respiratory diseases. Damien is passionate about the legal space and professional services, passing on his expertise to those in the trenches. He also recently launched his own podcast, The Resolution Room.So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Damien discussing:- Leadership and Authenticity: Building Trust and Culture- Lessons From Scaling Law Firms: Persistence, Mindset and Strategy- Overcoming Challenges: Wellness, Mindfulness and Resilience- The Value of Coaching and Mentorship For Legal Leaders- Giving Back and Community Involvement: The Importance of GratitudeConnect with Damien Van Brunschot here - https://au.linkedin.com/in/damien-van-brunschot

In this special minisode of the Legally Speaking Podcast, we are joined by DJs Frankie Gioia and Adam Guy (aka Guyza) from Lost Rhythms. They discuss their journey in the music industry, the challenges of balancing demanding careers with their passion for DJing, and their exciting future plans, including upcoming gigs and music releases. This minisode is also a teaser for more exciting things to come for the Live Lounge, which is now a weekly event at the Legally Speaking Podcast.Key Points From the DiscussionHow this collaboration was formed in Ibiza on the Lawyers RetreatLost Rhythms bringing back older tunesHow to balance work and passionDJing: a passion for over 30 yearsHow energy breeds energy in the music sceneFind out more on the official LSP website