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Welcome to The Thoughtful Realtor Podcast! Relaunched in 2022, this is a show for those interested and invested in the world of residential real estate. Cliff Tsang, Connie Chung, and Kenny Gong – partners and founders of Willowmar Real Estate – sit down for insights, stories, and conversations about all things in the real estate market today, running a real estate team in California, and finding their way as leaders and business partners.
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How do you intentionally bring beauty into your life and home, to create something beautiful even if you know it won’t last? In this episode, co-host Kenny sits down with longtime friend and floral designer Sammy Go of Lambert Floral Studio (@lambertfloralstudio) to discuss creativity, beauty, and impermanence. From tulips bending toward the light to the quiet transformation of a moment shared, Kenny and Sammy explore how beauty isn't just about aesthetics, it's about meaning, care, and how we choose to see the world around us.
Real investing isn’t always what it looks like in the movies.In this episode, Cliff sits down with longtime friend and investor Davis Liu to talk about what a career in finance actually looks like. They cover everything from long-term thinking to daily habits, and how simplicity often beats complexity when it comes to building wealth.Featuring a favorite moment from the episode:“Hold some cash, hold the S&P 500 ETF, and you’re golden.”
Every flip has a backstory — and for Cliff, his first one came with countless decisions, unexpected challenges, and a whole lot of personal growth. In this episode, Connie sits down with Cliff to talk through what it was really like to take on his very first flip. From navigating the unknowns to balancing his roles as both agent, owner and investor, Cliff shares the honest highs and lows, and what it has taught him about real estate, risk, and pacing.
There’s something magical about objects made with intention — pieces that are not only beautiful, but tactile to the touch. In this episode, co-host Connie sits down with Yau Tong of One Cup Studio, a potter and designer whose work blends thoughtful craftsmanship with everyday function. They talk about the slow, intuitive process of pottery, designing with the user in mind, and how handmade objects can bring soul and meaning into daily life.
Behind every powerful story is an even stronger voice. In this episode, co-host Bran Bunnag sits down with Cameron Lehman, a professional ghostwriter and storyteller, and founder of Editor-in-Chief. Tune in as they dive into the power of storytelling, the art of ghost writing, and the importance of not only nurturing your story, but crafting the most powerful version of it.
Mornings can often feel like a whirlwind, and for Connie — a mama, realtor, business owner, and team leader — that couldn’t be more true. She starts her day with a simple yet grounding ritual: a warm cup of water. In this episode, co-host Connie Chung shares how these quiet moments help her reset and prepare for the day ahead. Tune in as she dives into the power of slowing down, reflecting, setting intentions, and making space for a full and busy day.
The right client-agent chemistry can transform the entire real estate experience. In this episode, co-hosts Kenny Gong and Bran Bunnag explore what makes for a great fitting client-agent relationship and dig into the role of trust, communication, and mutual respect in creating a seamless and successful home-buying or selling journey. From navigating decision-making styles to setting clear expectations, they break down how strong client-agent partnerships lead to smoother transactions, greater confidence, and better outcomes. Tune in for expert insights on why finding the right match is key to a rewarding real estate experience.
What happens when you pour your heart and soul into a community? Connection and community and a sense of rootedness and place. Join co-host Kenny Gong in conversation with Vanessa Gamp, a dear colleague and leader in our Realtor community in San Francisco. Tune in to this heartwarming conversation about how showing up, connecting, and investing in your community can create ripples of impact that extend far beyond what you might imagine.
Building a network isn’t about transactions; it’s about cultivating connections and authentic relationships that will last. In this episode, co-host Cliff Tsang and Willowmar Real Estate agent Sam Young share their secrets to creating a strong, reliable community and the strategies they use to maintain genuine interpersonal connections and offer refreshing takes on growing a meaningful, lasting network. Whether you're in real estate or any other industry, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss!
What does it take to build a business with friends? In this episode, we sit down with co-hosts Kenny Gong and Connie Chung, two of the founding team of Willowmar Real Estate, as they reflect on their journey beginning as friends and evolving into business partners. They discuss transforming a vision into reality, the challenges of balancing close friendships with professional responsibilities, and the moments that defined their individual and collective paths as friends who lead and build together. Tune in to hear their story and the values that developed into The Willowmar Way.
Ever wonder what it takes to transform a blank canvas into a space that truly feels like home? In this episode, co-host Connie Chung chats with guest and interior designer Kiki of Kiki Design Studio about her creative journey, their process of working together on a major renovation (spoiler alert: Connie’s home!), and her go-to design tips for creating a space that feels like home. Whether you’re redecorating or just dreaming, Kiki’s insights will inspire you to see your space in a whole new light.
Yes, Realtors have rough days, too. In this episode, we’re getting real about some of the challenging situations that Realtors might face throughout their day, even if they’re hidden from colleagues, clients, and sometimes even loved ones. From transactions falling through to some of the smallest situations that can strike big fear in a Realtor’s heart (read: KEYS!), co-host Kenny Gong and Willowmar agent Brandea Bunnag share stories, struggles, and insights on how Realtors bounce back during rough days in the real estate.
A refreshing and unique take on skills, this episode explores the most overlooked and surprising skills that co-hosts Kenny Gong, Connie Chung, and Cliff Tsang have built throughout the years. Whether it’s the ability to apply a growth mindset or reading the energy of a room, some skills just don’t get enough credit. Join us for a thoughtful reevaluation of the underrated skills that help create growth and success, as well as advice on how to discover and nurture those skills within yourself.
We’re going behind the scenes of the life of Realtor Moms in this episode as co-host Connie Chung talks all about parenting while maintaining busy real estate careers with fellow Willowmar Agents and Mama’s, Tiffany Chung and Vanessa Gamp. The trio share frank stories and advice on navigating the demands of work and family – and momhood has helped with the challenges of real estate. Listen in to hear three rare and honest perspectives on how professional life can intersect with the personal one in unexpected and wonderful ways.
We often don’t realize just how deeply our belief systems – from our past and our present – can influence how we think and feel about ourselves, our personal lives, and our careers. In this episode, co-hosts Cliff Tsang, Connie Chung, and Kenny Gong deconstruct and examine the personal belief systems they held onto as children, young adults, and today, all with the intention to learn from those influences and transform our futures.
Is the life of a Realtor really as glamorous as it seems? Join co-hosts Kenny Gong, Connie Chung, and Cliff Tsang for an entertaining chat on the myths we’ve heard about our industry, our jobs, and the people in it. Spoiler (although we doubt you’ll be surprised): Our days aren’t quite like the ones you see on Selling Sunset or Million Dollar Listing…
In this one-on-one episode of The Thoughtful Realtor podcast, we’re envisioning what success means in all aspects of our lives. Co-host Kenny Gong shares how he uses strategic, intentional, and thoughtful goal-setting to empower others to create truly effective plans of action. Using simple questions, Kenny shares a high-level process and a simple framework that can keep you centered and pointed our way towards true growth and purpose.
Being guided by the right coach or mentor can be a truly transformative experience. They can empower you to realize and actualize your full potential – in life and in your career. In this episode, co-hosts Connie Chung, Kenny Gong, and Cliff Tsang dive deep into their personal experiences and how coaching and mentorship have profoundly affected their individual paths – being coached and mentored themselves, and coaching and mentoring others. Listen in!
So much of being a Realtor is juggling a lot of different tasks, coming from all directions, and a seemingly never-ending list of to-do’s. In this episode, exceptional task crusher and Willowmar teammate Phoebe Syn shares with co-host Cliff Tsang her mindset, methodologies, and tactics on dealing with a to-do list that can sometimes feel overwhelming. If you’re a struggling scheduler, bask in Phoebe’s positive energy and practical advice on being intentional with your time and strategic with your tasks.
How has your definition of success evolved over time? In this episode, co-hosts Cliff Tsang and Kenny Gong share what success has looked like in their different phases of life, from childhood until today. They get into the experiences and influences that have shaped what balance looks like for them and how their values are making successful lives into meaningful ones, too.
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