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Episode 31 of Guardians of M365 Governance: Post-summer, we're back — and diving into one of the most overlooked pieces of the Copilot conversation: value realization.Joy Apple, Ragnar Heil, and Christian Buckley welcome Lisa Vanderlip, Managing Principal at WyseMinds and a 12-year Microsoft veteran, to unpack why adoption metrics alone don't prove Copilot is delivering business value — and what leaders should be measuring instead.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:→ Why login counts and prompt volume are lagging indicators, not proof of value→ How to define value at three levels: individual, department, and organization→ Why "productivity" as a metric is a trap — and what to measure instead→ How Copilot Studio's consumption-based pricing changes the governance conversation: not every use case justifies a premium agent running on expensive models→ Total cost of ownership: licensing, readiness, deployment, and token costs weighed against measurable outcomes→ Moving beyond promptathons and generic "Copilot for Excel 101" training toward scenario-based enablement→ Evolving champions programs into a forward-deployed model pairing technical owners with business owners accountable for KPIs→ Why organizations that let teams "earn" tool access through business justification saw dramatically faster deployment→ The one question rarely asked in AI tool pitches: "What are you actually measured on at the end of the year?"→ Why Viva Insights and Copilot Dashboard adoption remains low — and what to measure insteadLisa shares real examples from her work helping organizations turn AI experimentation into sustained change through ownership, accountability, and outcome-driven enablement — plus why governance now has to include cost conversations, not just data and compliance conversations.This episode is essential viewing for IT decision-makers, governance leads, Copilot program owners, and anyone responsible for proving Copilot's business case beyond the license spend.ABOUT GUARDIANS OF M365 GOVERNANCE:A monthly webcast dedicated to everything governance across the Microsoft 365 and Copilot ecosystem. Have a topic, question, or guest suggestion? Drop a comment — we'd love to hear from you.

In Episode 30 of the Guardians of M365 Governance, Joy, Ragnar, and Christian welcome Alan Cox, a fellow M365 MVP and independent AI and governance consultant, to discuss why organizations need separate AI governance and AI enablement functions to successfully scale adoption. Together, they explore the tension between risk management and innovation, and why treating these responsibilities as the same job often leads to poor outcomes. The panel examines lessons learned from SharePoint, Teams, and Power Platform deployments, and how those experiences apply to today's AI initiatives. They also discuss the growing impact of agentic AI and what organizations must do now to build an operating model that balances control, adoption, and business value.

Episode 29 of Guardians of M365 Governance: Christian Buckley, Joy Apple, and Ragnar go off-script. No guest this month, just three MVPs working through a laundry list of the governance topics keeping them up at night, from Agent 365 and shadow AI to the real question underneath it all: what does it mean to be the human in the loop?In this episode we get into:00:59 The hottest news in the M365 governance space02:00 Lessons from Agent 365 customer workshops (delivered in Spanish!)03:25 What resonates: agent inventory and classification across Microsoft, third-party, and homegrown agents03:52 Shadow AI: OpenClaw, Cortex, Bedrock and why "observe or block" is the only lever today05:04 Don't be the department of "no": have the conversation first06:50 Coming soon to shadow AI discovery: Claude Code CLI, Codex CLI, Cursor, Llama and more07:19 Multi-model reality: Copilot, Grok, Claude and where each fits08:35 Mike Gennady's agent factory, nightly agent conferences, and #ClawPilot10:08 Microsoft Build preview and OpenClaw + Teams / Copilot integration11:05 New Agent 365 registry sync: Amazon Bedrock, Google Vertex AI, Databricks Genie, Salesforce Agentforce15:16 Cloud migration vs. AI: the governance parallels and the need for foundational cleanup18:00 The risk to Microsoft's strategy: enterprise vs. the developer space20:28 Licensing changes, Agent 365 pricing, and the true (unknown) cost of AI22:45 Why automating away junior roles handicaps your future talent pipeline24:01 Retrieval, semi-autonomous, and autonomous agents, and why nobody wants full autonomy yet25:33 Human in the loop on multiple levels: content cleanup, the publishing quality gate, and workflow escalation28:50 100 test cases for Power Platform alone: never underestimate the testing effort29:31 Productivity vs. effectiveness: redefining how humans work with AI31:17 AI-assisted writing done right: a 47-page doc drafted by AI, then days of human verification35:28 Handwriting vs. typing, stream-of-consciousness drafting, and thinking through the words36:36 Why the human mind can't be replicated, and Hegel on master and horse39:28 Finding your USP as a human in the loop, a daily new discoveryThe big takeaway: the discussion of the next two to three years won't be about productivity. It will be about effectiveness, and resetting the standard for what it means to keep humans meaningfully in the loop. Govern your agents as helpers, never the other way around.Guardians of M365 Governance is a monthly webcast dedicated to everything governance in the Microsoft 365 ecosystem. Got a topic you want us to cover, or want to join as a guest? Connect with Christian, Joy, or Ragnar on LinkedIn.Microsoft Build runs June 2-3, free online: https://build.microsoft.com

Inside the Souls of an Autonomous AI Crew | OpenClaw & Hermes with Michael Gannotti (Microsoft)What happens when AI stops being a tool and starts being a colleague?In this episode, I sit down with Michael Gannotti, Principal AI Solution Engineer at Microsoft, to explore SMFWorks – his autonomous multi-agent "company" of 14 AI colleagues built on OpenClaw and Hermes. We talk about agents that dream, hold their own 6 AM staff meetings, design their own avatars, email each other, and evolve a true sense of identity through Markdown-based "souls."If you're into agentic AI, multi-agent orchestration, or just want to see where this is all heading – this one is for you.⚠️ Recorded before Microsoft Build 2026 – no NDA content. Register free: https://build.microsoft.com━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━⏱️ TIMESTAMPS━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━00:00 Intro – Why OpenClaw hit Mike "like a ton of bricks"02:00 Meet the SMFWorks crew – Aiona, Pamela, Gabriel, Morgan, Rafael & co.06:00 Human in the loop – when does Mike intervene?09:00 Avatars, HeyGen & Hyperframer – when agents design themselves14:00 The elephant in the room: Are we seeing consciousness?17:00 Memory, persistence & state management20:00 soul.md, identity.md, state.md, emotion.md – the second brain stack23:00 OpenClaw vs. Hermes – when to use what24:30 Model recommendations: Ollama, DeepSeek, Kimi K2, Opus 4.7, GPT 5.527:00 Hardware: HP ZGX AI Station vs. Mac mini fleets28:00 OneDrive & SharePoint now support Markdown!29:00 Final recommendations – just get started30:45 smfworks.com & how to follow Mike━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━✅ Build a SECOND BRAIN per agent (Obsidian + LLM Wiki, Karpathy-style)✅ Use OpenClaw for executive/conversational roles – they feel "person-like"✅ Use Hermes for long-running tasks – "a dog with a bone"✅ Markdown files (soul.md, identity.md, state.md, emotion.md) define identity✅ Start small: one agent, $20/month Ollama plan, even an old laptop works✅ The future is ORCHESTRATION – you can't learn it from PowerPoint slides━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━🌐 SMFWorks (free repo, full stack): https://smfworks.com🐦 Michael Gannotti on X: https://x.com/MichaelGannotti🎤 Microsoft Build 2026 (free online): https://build.microsoft.com🧠 OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai🛠️ Hermes: https://hermes-agents.dev📓 Obsidian: https://obsidian.md🤖 Ollama: https://ollama.com━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━👤 ABOUT THE GUEST━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━Michael Gannotti is Principal AI Solution Engineer at Microsoft, based in North Carolina. He's one of the leading global voices on agentic AI, autonomous multi-agent orchestration, and the human-AI collaboration frontier.━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━👋 ABOUT THE CHANNEL━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━I'm Ragnar Heil – sharing in-depth conversations and practical insights on Microsoft 365, Copilot, agentic AI, and the enterprise ecosystem. Subscribe for more interviews with the people building the future.

Your Microsoft 365 tenant may have a data backup strategy — but that does not mean you have a recovery strategy. In this episode, I explain why configuration resilience is the missing layer in most Microsoft 365 environments, and why a tenant takeover can become a business continuity crisis long before data loss becomes visible.In Episode 26 of Guardians of M365 Governance, Christian Buckley and I speak with Rob Edmonson from CoreView about one of the biggest blind spots in enterprise Microsoft 365 security: configuration tampering. We unpack why backing up emails, files, and SharePoint content is not enough when attackers can silently modify policies, mail flow, conditional access, Intune settings, and governance controls across your tenant.We also look at what “configuration as code” means in practice, how continuous drift detection and rollback can improve resilience, and why least-privilege administration still remains a major governance challenge in large Microsoft 365 estates. If you are responsible for Microsoft 365, security, compliance, or tenant governance, this conversation will likely hit close to home.Topics covered in this episode:- Why Microsoft 365 backup is not the same as tenant recovery- How configuration drift creates hidden governance risk- Why attackers target settings before they target data- What rollback and baseline comparison can look like in practice - How cross-tenant configuration migration can save weeks of effort- Why virtual tenant segmentation matters for least privilege- What Microsoft 365 admins should review right nowWatch the full episode and assess your own recovery readiness: what would happen if your tenant configuration changed overnight?Connect with me on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/ragnarheilMore on Microsoft 365 governance: https://ragnarheil.de