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Casual Cattle Conversations is a podcast that utilizes rancher-to-rancher education to share experiences, stories and information about beef cattle producers and other individuals in the cattle industry. This podcast covers all topics related to ranching from time management, entrepreneurship, finances and anything in-between. Join the host, Shaye Koester-Wanner, each week to connect with fellow cattle producers and industry leaders.
Link to website, episodes, merchandise & transcripts: https://linktr.ee/cattleconvos
Link to website, episodes, merchandise & transcripts: https://linktr.ee/cattleconvos
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Today, Shaye Wanner is having a conversation with guest, Josh Gaskamp to discuss how wildfires affect ranchers and how to reduce risk through grazing management, prescribed fire, and planning. Josh explains that wildfires remove forage inventory, threaten livestock, and can raise feed costs, with fall fires creating greater hardship than spring fires.
He describes using adaptive grazing to reduce fine fuels by preventing excessive, gray thatch buildup, promoting younger growth with higher moisture, and improving soil health so residue breaks down faster. He outlines how to assess thatch by visual cues and digging into the soil, and when prescribed fire may be used for forage quality, brush control, biodiversity, and wildfire mitigation. They also cover planning for private and public lands, including livestock priorities, safe zones, alternate forage sources, and coordinating access for fire crews.
Learn more about wildfire mitigation strategies with Noble here: https://www.noble.org/find-a-course/
Catch more conversations like this one and learn more at https://www.casualcattleconversations.com/
02:04 Meet Josh Gaskamp
03:18 How Wildfires Hit Ranchers
06:24 Grazing To Reduce Fuels
10:17 Spotting Too Much Thatch
12:49 Prescribed Fire As Tool
16:33 Public Lands Wildfire Plans
17:54 Building A Response Plan
21:32 After The Fire Recovery
This week, Shaye is joined by Jonathon Haralson of Your Ag Empire about building resilient, multi-generation agricultural operations. Haralson defines an “Ag Empire” as the dreams rural families pursue across cattle, row crops, and related businesses, then shares his background in Texas production agriculture and commodity risk management.
He explains Empire Ag’s work as business strategy support, improving recordkeeping, restructuring debt to match cash flow, and helping producers identify hidden business “holes” and emphasizes that sustainable success rests on strengthening body, mind, and spirit through preparation, nutrition, activity, gratitude, and belief in something bigger.
He outlines Empire Ag’s strategy, accounting, branding (including direct-to-consumer), and lending arm (EA Capital). They discuss growth versus optimization, opportunities from transitions, and the importance of family communication in succession planning, ending with Jonathon’s key takeaway on dropping the ego and aligning on your vision and mission.
Learn more about Your Ag Empire here: https://youragempire.com/
Learn more about the Noble Research Institute here: https://www.noble.org/find-a-course/
Learn more about Elanco here: https://farmanimal.elanco.com/us/beef
Learn more about Vence here: https://bit.ly/4kfWrCG
Learn more about AtTheYards here: https://bit.ly/400T7mF
Catch more conversations like this one and learn more at https://www.casualcattleconversations.com/
01:25 What Does Building an Ag Empire Look Like
02:43 Jonathon’s Ag Journey
05:19 How Empire Ag Helps
07:28 Body Mind Spirit Framework
11:05 Busy Season Body Tips
15:08 Mindset Under Pressure
18:14 Spirituality and Purpose
19:44 Financial Levers and Lending
25:01 Growth vs Optimization
26:56 Opportunities for Young Producers
32:21 Succession and Family Communication
Today, Shaye Wanner interviews Donovan Wagner of Wagner Financial Services about why ranchers should invest during strong cattle markets instead of putting all equity back into land, equipment, and cattle. Wagner emphasizes planning for retirement, health events, and farm/ranch transition challenges, especially balancing inheritances among on-farm and off-farm children and avoiding family conflict.
He discusses tools including life insurance (including second-to-die and riders that can provide funds for long-term care needs), SEPs for larger deductible contributions (noting complications with employees), traditional IRAs, Roth IRAs for lower tax brackets, and HSAs for deductible medical expenses. Wagner stresses asking advisors about experience, fees, and coordination with CPAs and attorneys, keeping wills updated, using goal-based planning, and starting systematic contributions, even a small monthly amount, to benefit from compounding.
Learn more about the Noble Research Institute here: https://www.noble.org/find-a-course/
Learn more about Elanco here: https://farmanimal.elanco.com/us/beef
Learn more about Vence here: https://bit.ly/4kfWrCG
Learn more about AtTheYards here: https://bit.ly/400T7mF
Catch more conversations like this one and learn more at https://www.casualcattleconversations.com/
00:00 Why Invest Now
01:03 Meet Donovan Wagner
02:17 Equity Traps and Succession
05:04 Fair Is Not Equal
06:17 Life Insurance for Heirs
09:34 Pay Yourself Systematically
10:27 SEP and Roth Basics
13:32 Traditional IRA and Employees
15:19 Health Planning and HSAs
16:38 Long Term Care Options
21:15 Retirement Goals and Software
23:18 Avoiding Common Mistakes
26:10 Starting Young and Compounding
Today on the Cattle Convos Podcast, Shaye Wanner interviews Shannon Emley, from Ambrook, about managerial accounting for ranchers. Shannon contrasts technical accounting for taxes and lenders with managerial accounting focused on clarity for business decision-making, emphasizing that clean, up-to-date books and properly categorized transactions are the foundation.
He explains how producers can analyze profitability by enterprise (cow-calf, stockers, custom grazing, hay), reduce emotion in decisions, and evaluate choices like grow-versus-buy feed, raise-versus-buy calves, or own-versus-hire equipment by capturing full costs including labor, fuel, and repairs.
Something he notes that makes Ambrook unique is that it can track sub-enterprises, locations, and metrics like profit per acre or per head, even down to individual cows using projects, plus inventory and timing of feed use. Emley recommends starting small, spending about 10 minutes weekly, and using the last 12 months’ P&L to forecast cash, including loan and equipment payments.
Learn more and try Ambrook at: ambrook.com/casualcattle
More links and resources from this episode:
Learn more about the Noble Research Institute here: https://www.noble.org/find-a-course/
Learn more about Elanco here: https://farmanimal.elanco.com/us/beef
Learn more about Vence here: https://bit.ly/4kfWrCG
Learn more about AtTheYards here: https://bit.ly/400T7mF
Catch more conversations like this one and learn more at https://www.casualcattleconversations.com/
00:00 Big Decisions Made Easier
00:59 Meet Shannon Emley
02:22 Managerial Accounting Basics
03:29 Clean Books First
04:27 Enterprise Profitability
06:12 Grow Versus Buy
09:03 Start With Key Questions
10:17 Going Deeper With Tracking
13:30 Forecasting Cash Flow
15:10 Simple Weekly Habit
17:35 How to Try Ambrook
This week on the Cattle Conversations Podcast, Shaye Wanner interviews fifth-generation North Central Montana rancher, Tyrel Obrecht, about using Vence’s virtual fence system on their replacement yearling heifers (mid-May to mid-September) for the past three years.
Tyrel explains choosing heifers over the main cow herd due to cost and better water development on deeded ground, and securing initial cost share through World Wildlife Fund’s RSVP program to install towers and trial the collars. He demonstrates the software for drawing fences, training cattle near barbed wire before moving to invisible lines, and using heat maps to evaluate grazing patterns around water and minerals.
Benefits include tighter grazing control in prairie potholes and creek pastures, freeing BLM pastures, supporting conception rates, and better rest distribution; challenges included early collar retention issues fixed by improved attachments and occasional updates/weather-related breaches.
Learn more about Vence here: https://bit.ly/4kfWrCG
Catch more conversations like this one and learn more at https://www.casualcattleconversations.com/
01:11 Meet Tyrel Obrecht
01:27 Ranch Background Setup
03:05 Why Try Vence
04:09 Starting With Heifers
05:44 Cost Share Funding
07:50 Benefits In Grazing
09:06 Software Fence Drawing
11:22 Training The Cattle
14:01 Moves Updates Reality
17:25 Heat Maps Insights
19:02 Nutrition Planning Data
20:45 Challenges Collar Retention
22:27 Is Vence Worth It?



