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Author: Denise Aquino & Patricia Destine

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Denise Aquino and Patricia Destine are two women of color who are dedicated to promoting diversity within the sport of rowing. Both are former rowers turned coxswains turned coaches in the sport. Together they have almost 25 years of experience on the erg, at regattas, in the launch, or at the boathouse. No stranger to navigation or microphones, these former coxswains amplify what it’s like to navigate the topic of race within the white-dominated sport of rowing. Like most bodies of water, the tide is changing; there are more American rowers of color than there has ever been. You’ll hear from people who represented the U.S. in international races to folks who just started to row this year. Tune in to listen to a mix of interviews, special co-hosts, and tag-team shows from hosts, Denise and Patricia. Whether a rower or not, you’re not going to want to miss. Hit subscribe and enjoy.
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#046  - Annie, a masters rower from Seattle, stopped by the Rowing in Color tent at Head of the Charles Regatta and talk about her experience as a Colombian masters rower based in Seattle.We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#044 - Denise Aquino and Patricia Destine are respectively the Founder and CEO of Rowing in Color. In this episode, listen to them reflect on their silence in 2021, and also introduce the short episodes recorded live from Head of the Charles Regatta on October 23-24, 2021.In this episode, we talked about:4:06 The real reason why we haven’t published in 2021 “When someone’s trying to oppress you, you have to stand up.”10:44 Thank you Patreon family!13:08 “Whether or not that is the first threat or the last threat, we’re gonna keep going.”14:03 What we’re not “supposed” to say on Rowing in Color, according to a funder15:13 What happened to the other recorded episodes?17:30 Thoughts on HOCR 2021 tent 22:24 Words of wisdom for young rowers of color from Patricia25:52 Who Denise is afraid of getting a phone call from… and much more.We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.  If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.  Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.  We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#045  - Patrick Johnson and Brook Yimer (Athletes Without Limits) stop by the Rowing in Color tent at Head of the Charles Regatta and talk about their experience as two Black coaches.In this episode we talk about:0:48 Who and what orgs are represented is on the episode1:30 What was today like for two successful coaches at Head of the Charles4:37 Advice for coaches to create successful athletes of all demographics7:30 Brook shares an example for how to create a unified culture9:20 A message to the rowing world from Patrick Johnson and Brook YimerWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.  If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.  Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.  We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#043 - Denise Aquino and Patricia Destine are respectively the Founder and CEO of Rowing in Color. In this episode, listen to them reflect on 2020, answer questions from the RIC community, and talk about what's in store for 2021.In this episode, we talked about:Reflecting on 2020Questions submitted via InstagramPlans for Rowing in Color in 2021… and much more.We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#042 - Jorlui Sillau is a mental health professional based in New York City with experience rowing through a veterans rowing program.In this episode, we talked about:How can we better respond to microaggressions [6:51] Ask clarifying questions (and why) [8:00] An example of how to respond [11:49] Nonverbal microaggressions [15:00]Fear of Retaliation [17:26]Trauma [18:50]Powerlesness [25:38] Is there a time limit to respond to microaggressions?What recorded videos of erging have to do with this … and much more.To get in touch with Jorlui, please email him at jorlui.sillau@gmail.com We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#041 - Jennifer Fitz-Roy is a black PR2 rower at the Community Rowing, which is also the USRowing Para Training Center.In this episode, we talked about:What PR2 means and what classifications of pararowing there are [2:18]How she got into rowing [9:02] The one person who convinced her she didn’t belong in the sport [15:15]Race [ ]Colorism [ ]Advice to younger rowers of color or younger rowers with a disability [ ]… and much more.To get in touch with Jen, please reach her   on Instagram @fitzroyjWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#040 - Michael D. Green is of Jamaican descent and a Senior heavyweight rower at Dartmouth College. In this episode, we talked about:How he got into rowing [4:18]His thoughts on authenticity [13:22] Michael’s insight on access-related inequities as a result of program cuts on diversity within rowing [16:32]Advice for younger rowers of color [21:04]Code switching [24:45]Advice for coaches to understand social issues about race [30:28]Ever feeling like the go-to race person for his rowing team [34:42]The biggest takeaway for YOU, the listener [43:00]… and much more.To get in touch with Michael, please reach him on Instagram @michael_d_green or on Twitter @thoughts_by_mdg We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#039 - Beata Coloyan and Jasmine Howard coached the Boston Latin School Rowing team to a nationally competitive public school team. As coaches of color themselves, both have worked to make the teams’ demographic make up match the percentage of students of color at the school.In this episode, we talked about:How have various experiences impacted you are a coach? [ ]Describe your work with the Boston Latin Rowing team and making it more accessible.Describe the racial makeup of your coaches [56:55]Do you think there’s something women of color can do to invite more women of color to be coaches? [1:05:00] Given their legal and political backgrounds, are their thoughts on politics in rowing? [1:11:39]What are your next goals for your team and for yourself? [1:18:15]… and much more.To get in touch with Jasmine or Beata, please reach them at coaches@kannaracing.comWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#038 - Diego Baugh is a Senior on the Stanford Men’s Rowing Team and alumn of Saugatuck Rowing Club.In this episode, we talked about:How Diego got into rowing [4:13]What Diego brought up that has never been brought up before on the Rowing in Color podcast [9:50]Times he witnessed racism in rowing [13:07]How have coaches addressed instances of racism in general? [16:0 3] Thoughts on recruiting and inclusion [23:30]His reaction to the Stanford program being cut [25:30]Advice for a coach who wants to recruit an athlete of color [32:07]A success story! [38:06]… and much more.To get in touch with Diego, please reach him on Instagram @diegobaugh or diego.r.baugh@gmail.comWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#037 - Kyley Jones is a black rower who just finished a 7-year rowing career rowing at UC San Diego. She shares powerful insight on inclusion, intersectionality, and community through her anthropological lens. With mere days before the 2020 election and days just following another murder of a black man, her words are what we need to hear right now.In this episode, we talked about:How Kyley started rowing [ ]What advice she would give to other young rowers transitioning from high school rowing to collegiate rowing [ ] What Kyley meant when she said “…” [ ]“Diversity Without Inclusion is Exclusion” [ ]“Whitewashed” [ ]What teams should do when one of their teammates is called the n-word… and much more.To get in touch with Kyley, please reach her on Instagram @joneskyleyWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#036 - Eva Walker Outlaw is a breast cancer survivor and African American rower at an organization called Recovery on Water.In this episode, we talked about:Eva’s diagnosis [2:26]When Recover on Water came into her life [28:12]Benefits of rowing [30:32]Her experience with subtle racist moments in rowing [31:22]Another reason why visibility is important in rowing [38:01]What advice she would give to those recently diagnosed with cancer and those who are just seeing themselves in the sport [47:03]… and much more.To get in touch with Eva, please reach her on Instagram @nd_sometimes or via email at evajoyoutlaw@gmail.comTo learn more about Recover on Water, visit www.recoveryonwater.org or find them on Instagram @recoveryonwaterWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#035 - During Latinx/Hispanic Heritage Month we invited many members to join for a group conversations relating to the Latinx/Hispanic-American rowing experience. This is one of those conversations.In this episode, we talked about:How they got into the sport How language has played a part in the boathouseCode switchingGiving away your own culture in order to fit in [1:04:48]Why rowing is perceived as a white sport [1:15:46]What we’re doing wrong [1:36:40]… and much more.To get in touch with Katherine, please reach her on Instagram @katvaldez72To get in touch with Luis Prado, please reach him on Instagram @hellriser1100To get in touch with Miguel Gonzalez, please reach him on Instagram @onemigzyTo get in touch with Ángela, please reach her on Instagram @angelaoriachTo get in touch with Estefani, please reach her on Instagram @fefeayresWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#034 - Hannah Diaz is a Peruvian American coxswain and the only recruited person of color on the openweight women’s team at Princeton University.In this episode, we talked about:Advice for high school coxswains who are aspiring to be recruited for college [4:12]Hannah’s flex [12:35]Her experience as a biracial person [13:12] What a non-Spanish speaking person may *unintentionally* do that might make someone feel awkward [22:10] What it meant to be surrounded by other coxswains of color [33:22]What advice she would give to coxswains [36:07]One lasting message for coxswains [40:52]   … and much more.To get in touch with Hannah, please reach her on Instagram @hannahhdiaz We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#033 - Camila and Isa Shana Darvin are both sisters and rowers for the University of Wisconsin. Camila is a Freshman rower on the lightweight women’s team while Isa is a Senior on the openweight women’s team.In this episode, we talked about:What hooked them into rowing [6:09]Experiences being Latina on a collegiate rowing team [9:17]Moments of not feeling belong in rowing [13:07]Steps being taken (and obstacles in the way) to move the conversation forward [16:49]An example of barrier to access within rowing during COVID [23:38] Advice for coaches on how to promote inclusivity [30:34]More advice [35:29]Advice for younger Latina rowers [44:08]What does a Latina look like [46:42]… and much more.To get in touch with Camila, please reach her on Instagram @camila.darvin To get in touch with Isa, please reach her on Instagram @isadarvin We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#032 - Manny Valentin is the Head Boys’ Rowing Coach at Saratoga Rowing Association and identifies as an American with Puerto Rican lineage.In this episode, we talked about:How he identifies [1:22]Books Manny recommends for fellow Americans with Puerto Rican heritage [7:48]How Manny got into rowing [9:24] Advice for younger coaches [14:45]What was it like to be the only coach of color in various spaces [18:20]The role anxiety plays in sports psychology as it relates to non-white athletes in predominantly white  spaces [20:40]Manny’s philosophy on athletic performance and sports psychology as it relates to triggers and racial events of 2020 [24:15]Onee way Manny prepares his rowers for peak athletic performance [28:30]His approach to increase diversity in our sport [31:05]Discussing “you can’t be what you can’t see” through the lens of sports psychology [38:36]… and much more.Books mentioned in this episode include:The War Against All Puerto Ricans, by Nelson DenisFantasy Island, by Ed MoralesNew York Young Lords and the Struggle for Liberation, by Darrel Wanzer-SerranoTo get in touch with Manny, please reach him on Instagram @coach.valentinWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#031 - Mayfield Vashti-Roberts and Keira Gotrell are both black high school rowers from Washington and New Jersey, respectively. In this episode, they talked about:What made Mayfield stay with rowing [3:57]Mayfield’s response to going to regattas and not see others that look like you [7:07]What would Mayfield tell coaches to improve the experience of rowers of color [13:41]What Mayfield says to other HS rowers who are thinking of leaving the sport [18:35]… and much more.To get in touch with Mayfield, please email him at  msavr.mvr@gmail.comTo get in touch with Keira, please reach her on Instagram @keiragotrellWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#030 - Jo Victorio is a Philippine American and the Head Coach of the NYU Rowing Team.In this episode, we talked about:How she got into rowing [2:00]Her team’s powerfully inclusive team culture [4:31]Advice for youth coaches on how to create a culture of inclusivity [7:13]How she got into coaching [16:02]Advice for collegiate coaches on how to create a culture of inclusivity [18:46]The biggest challenge she experienced as a coach of color [29:06]Advice to other Filipinx Americans in rowing [39:09] … and much more.To get in touch with Jo, please reach her on Instagram @joannevictorioWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#029 - Kadee Sylla is a black college rower at University of San Diego and 2019 U23 rower for Team USA. In this episode, we talked about:An obvious takeaway for collegiate coaches who want to diversify their team [11:15]What Kadee meant when she called her experience “interesting” [14:37]Kadee’s thoughts on being acknowledged as a person of color who rows versus just being treated as a rower and not having to worry about skin color [18:20]When she felt oppression within the sport of rowing [21:00]What it feels like to be hyperaware [29:00]Where Kadee’s drive comes from [32:58]What’s really a most beautiful thing [40:00]Kadee’s advice for younger rowers [42:37]Why we need to diversify our sport [46:35]… and much more.To get in touch with Kadee, please reach her on Instagram @kadeesyllaWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#028 - Xavier Aniton is an 8-year rower, who served as team captain at both Shaker Heights High School in Ohio and Jacksonville University in Florida.In this episode, we talked about:Saying no to basketball and yes to rowing [1:35]Building a strong team culture on a boys high school team [7:23]Juggling rowing and academics in the role of a student-athlete [19:33]Did support differ when coming from a more demographically diverse team than from a less diverse team? [28:56]“Do you feel like your team was treated any differently because of who you were or how you looked?” [34:25]Advice for younger rowers of color [38:59]… and much more.To get in touch with Xavier, please reach him on Instagram @xaniton2024We hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
#027 - Gabi Heard is a Black and Puerto Rican rower at Jacksonville University. In this episode, we talked about:Gabi’s journey quitting and then returning to rowing [1:09]What the transition was like between college rowing and high school rowing [5:15]Tips for any high school athletes to keep focused on training during COVID [10:35]“Has being a rower of color strengthened you to be a better rower?” [12:14] Gabi’s advice for younger rowers of color [16:03]Why you should hire Gabi! [22:22]On stereotypes in rowing [25:04]  … and much more.To get in touch with Gabi, please reach her on Instagram @gabi_heardWe hope that the conversation in this podcast helps us all in the rowing world -- no matter your race -- to unify the rowing sport through diversity.If you have a response to this or any episode, we want to hear it. Send us your voice message at www.speakpipe.com/rowingincolor or just check out our Linktree (linktr.ee/rowingincolor). If you don't follow us on IG already, find us @rowingincolor.Lastly, if you can, please hit "follow" or "subscribe" wherever you listen to podcasts. If you can, please leave a rating and a review on Apple Podcast -- it would really mean a lot.We hope you and yours are well. Stay safe.
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