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Don’t Give Up Your Day Job is a podcast series from kiwi musicians Bobby Kennedy and Danny McCrum.The idea of this podcast is to give people an insight into the real workings of the careers of creative professionals. The fact is creative professionals are fascinating characters who have had to work very hard and overcome many personal and professional obstacles. They are dedicated, multi-talented people who make great sacrifices and take great risks and we think this is worth celebrating.So join us as we chat to musicians, producers, actors, artists, engineers and others about their professional and personal stories.
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Our 2020 Christmas Special is out now with special guest Molly Devine.  Molly is a singer, songwriter and music professional from Dunedin who impressed us with her interesting and very musical style of pop music and her pragmatic approach to her career.  We had a great chat about her background and her relationship with music.  Be sure to look her up!  We also play some notable moments from some of this year’s guests including Wayne Bell, Alan Brown, Jim hall, Bonnie Hurunui, Dr Siouxsie Wiles, Dug Pinnick, Rikki Morris, Debbie Harwood, Jimi Kara (Kara Gordon) and Hammond Gamble.  Have a great Christmas and New years and we’ll be back with you in 2021!
Guitarist Kara Gordon who now goes by the stage name Jimi Kara, regularly performs around the country and never seems to slow down.  He's opened for Slash, Elton John, Ozzy Osbourne, George Clinton, toured New Zealand, Australia and the UK with Alabama 3, performed many times with Fly My Pretties and has recently been a part of the tribute shows for the late Aaron Tokona.  He's a big character, an unforgettable presence and has even claimed to be Jimi Hendrix re-incarnate.  This one's a wild ride and reveals a thoughtful and quieter side of this larger than life character.  Enjoy!
Episode #107 Alex Ferrier

Episode #107 Alex Ferrier

2020-11-1901:19:15

Alex is the guitarist / singer for alternative rock band Skinny Hobos.  Alex Ferrier (aka Alex Elvis) and drummer Sam Holdom first met at high school and didn’t immediately click.  Alex put’s it simply “He kind of thought I was a dick and I probably was.”  Some years later they ended up working at the same instrument store and during a jam one night after the store closed, the two discovered their musical kinship.  Skinny Hobos went on to become a popular band on the local touring scene and built a loyal audience with singles like The Merchant of Tirau.  On this episode we talk about bands, gear, touring immediately after lockdown and Alex makes a surprise announcement about the future of Skinny Hobos.
Episode #106 Hammond Gamble

Episode #106 Hammond Gamble

2020-11-0501:24:52

Iconic New Zealand guitarist, singer and songwriter Hammond Gamble joined us for a fantastic conversation about all things music.  We talked guitars, we dove into Hammonds background and the psychology behind playing and performing.  Hammond came to prominence during the 1970s with Street Talk and went on to tour extensively with the Hammond Gamble Band and The Disappointments.  Joe Cocker even covered one of his songs.  To top off a fun and engaging episode, Hammond gave us a special solo performance which can also be viewed on YouTube.  Come and join us for a chat and a laugh.   
Episode #105 Darren Watson

Episode #105 Darren Watson

2020-10-2201:18:34

Wellington musician, songwriter and bandleader Darren Watson isn't afraid to speak his mind and why should he be?  Darren has worked relentlessly over the years; touring, recording, connecting with audiences and making a living.  He's put his money where his mouth is and has well and truely earnt his stripes.  On a recent trip to Auckland to promote his new album 'Getting Sober For The End Of The World' Darren swung by and we got right to it.  What followed was an action-packed conversation that was both thoughtprovoking and a whole lot of fun.  Enjoy!  
Episode #104 Marshall Smith

Episode #104 Marshall Smith

2020-10-0701:25:20

Marshall Smith is a composer, a songwriter, a producer, Musical Director of The Sound Room and Chairperson of the Screen Composers Guild of New Zealand.  He started out in bands, pursuing a career as a recording artist and soon moved into producing and soundtrack work, establishing a studio and creating music and advertisements for a long list of New Zealand and international clients.  We dive right into to an energetic conversation about his journey in music, building his company, social media and we even chat about mindfulness and meditation.  This is an uplifting and fascinating chat.  Enjoy!
Harry Lyon is the guitarist and founding member of iconic New Zealand band Hello Sailor.  The band formed in 1975 and lasted five years before going separate ways.  Each member remained busy forming other bands and releasing solo albums and soon Hello Sailor reunited and continued to record and tour up until the untimely passing of Dave McArtney in 2013 and Graham Brazier in 2015.  For many years Harry was the Director of MAINZ (Music and Audio Institute of New Zealand) and in 2018 Harry released his first solo album To The Sea.  This week Hello Sailor are re-releasing their 1994 record 'The Album' on vinyl and as a digital release with bonus tracks.  To celebrate, Harry and I talk about the new release as well as some of the highs and lows of Hello Sailors adventures in L.A. and Australia.  Harry Lyon!  Great guy, great chat!
Episode #102 Andrew Thorne

Episode #102 Andrew Thorne

2020-09-1001:09:16

Andrew Thorne is a great guitar player who’s worked with a long list of fine artists including Jan Hellriegel, Greg Johnson, Dave Dobbyn, Tim Finn and he was the guitarist on Bic Runga’s first hit album Drive.  His own bands have included Splitter and the Calico Brothers, he’s played support for international acts like Radiohead, Bryan Adams and Jeff Buckley and he’s currently performing with the touring show 80s X.  We had a great time discussing all things guitar, moments from his career and the balance of life and art.  Get jiggy wit it. 
Part 2 with Debbie Harwood is here!  Debbie came back to share some of the wilder stories from her career.  Some are heartbreaking, most are hilarious.  She talks about touring with When The Cats Away right after having throat surgery, her eventful night trying to get home from Waiheke Island after being stranded, dancing evocatively on stage with Jimmy Barnes as Jimmy's wife stood in the wings, making dinner for Paul Hewson on the night he quit Dragon and the time a ghost tried to reclaim her car.  Feel like a funny distraction from the world?  Come a long for the ride.
Debbie Harwood is a triple threat; she’s a fantastic musician, highly intelligent and as kind and honest as they come.  Debbie spent her early years performing constantly, making a name for herself in the local music scene.  She held her own in a male dominated industry and stood strong against the patronising and dismissive, who sniffed at the ‘cute female covers band’ When The Cats Away, which would become one of the most successful NZ touring shows in the 1980s.  Debbie toured the world singing for Jimmy Barnes, has helped mentor and develop numerous artists and she’s watched the music industry completely change beneath her feet.  On this episode Debbie opens up about her current health problems and she reflects on her career and the challenge of achieving longevity in such an inconsistent and difficult industry.  This episode is thought provoking, touching and hilarious.  We’re thrilled to have Debbie Harwood on our 100th episode!
Hinerongonui Kingi is a multi-talented musician, writer, dancer, journalist and even a body builder!  There seems to be nothing she can’t do, and her positivity and optimism is inspiring.  Hailing from Rotorua, Hine started performing at a very young age and has already performed around the world.  We talk about her time in Dubai, her strategies in setting and realising her goals and her can-do approach.  Included in this episode is a little bit of information about our special upcoming 100th episode!  Dig in!
Episode #98 Rikki Morris

Episode #98 Rikki Morris

2020-07-1501:13:061

Episode #98 is now available! Our guest is Rikki Morris.  Rikki is a highly respected, multitalented singer, songwriter, musician, producer & live sound engineer.  He joined Th’ Dudes as a roadie back in 1979 and went on to have a huge hit as a solo artist with the song Nobody Else.  He appeared on TV shows like 3.45 Live, Alive and Kicking, Get Your Act Together and Super City and he ran his recording studio The Bus (Depot) for many years.  His brother was the legendary musician and producer Ian Morris and later this year Rikki will honour his brother by stepping into his shoes, performing a finale tour with Th’ Dudes.  Rikki’s been sober for many years now and has remained open and candid about his recovery.  He’s one of the best live engineers out there and in addition to all of this, he’s also a really nice guy to hang out with.  Much of Rikki’s extensive career has already been covered, so we took a different approach and just had a conversation.  It’s what we do best.  Pull up a seat, order a Virgin Mary and get into it!  
Episode #97 Dug Pinnick

Episode #97 Dug Pinnick

2020-07-0201:40:26

Dug Pinnick is the bassist and vocalist for legendary US band Kings X.  Kings X have been together for forty years and quickly became known and respected for their unique sound, their sophisticated musicianship and their powerful performances.  Their fans include Pearl Jam’s Jeff Ament, The Police’s Andy Summers, Smashing Pumpkins’ Billy Corgan, Soundgarden’s Kim Thayil and many more.  Dug's journey has been one of constant struggle. He had a traumatic childhood and then had to find his way as a black man in America, a gay man in a religious environment all while trying to pursue a career in music.  We talk about his lyrics, his childhood, impostor syndrome and being an honest outspoken person.  We talk about the complications with the bands performance in front of 300,000 people at Woodstock 94 and we chat about the state of the world.  On the episode Dug says "It hasn't gotten worse than the 70s until the police come out with tear gas and rubber bullets."  Two weeks later George Floyd was murdered by a police officer, igniting riots across the US. Welcome to the groove machine!
Born and raised in Mumbai, India, Aditya Kalyanpur began playing the Tabla as a toddler and his life since has been deeply immersed in his music.  He was trained by highly respected Tabla Maestro, the late Alla Rakha Khanand and by the time he was a teenager he was performing regularly and working as a session musician on albums and radio jingles.  In his early twenties Aditya was invited to record with The Rolling Stones and spent several days getting to know the band.  He soon moved to the US with no contacts and effectively started again.  In 2008 Aditya founded the New England School of Music in Boston, Massachusetts and he would go on to record and perform with Katy Perry, Anoushka Shankar and Herbie Hancock. This episode is a celebration of Aditya Kalyanpur's incredible journey and a love letter to music.  
Episode #95 Huia Hamon

Episode #95 Huia Hamon

2020-06-0401:46:11

Huia is a multi-talented music professional with many strings to her bow.  She's a singer / songwriter who performs in Te Reo Māori, she works at Kog Studio as publicist, she founded Integrity Promotions to look after the PR and management of performers, her Grandfather was artist & poet Rei Hamon and she's married to musician and mastering engineer Chris Chetland.  She's a hard working, strong minded and opinionated and she maintains those qualities while being kind, empathetic and absolutely hilarious.  We covered lots of big subjects and had many laughs in the process.  Buckle up!
Episode #94 Joel Haines

Episode #94 Joel Haines

2020-05-2101:19:531

Musician Joel Haines grew up immersed in music and his journey establishing a career happened organically.  His father Kevin Haines and brother Nathan Haines are both highly respected musicians in their own right and all three of them have carved out impressive careers and gained high praise and respect from their peers.  (We had Nathan on the show a few years ago on Episode #14)  Joel has worked with artists like Hinewehi Mohi, Whirimako Black, Annie Crummer, Fiona McDonald, Maisey Rika, Cairo Knife Fight, The Straw People, Che Fu, Rikki Morris, and The Human Instinct and these days he spends most of his time composing music for film and television.  This is a fun and fascinating episode with an undeniable and ever humble talent.  Dive in!
Today (May 12th, 2020) we've posted a special edition of the podcast with Dr Siouxsie Wiles.  Dr Wiles is a British microbiologist and science communicator who specialises in infectious diseases and bioluminescence.  She's been a regular expert voice in the New Zealand media throughout this pandemic, while juggling her professional and personal commitments.  We recorded this episode a few days ago and my goal was to talk to her more specifically about the entertainment industry, when we might expect to be up and running again and how we can work strategically and safely going forward.  Dr Wiles was great to chat to and I hope this special short episode will be helpful to our creative communities.  
Episode #92 Brad Stent

Episode #92 Brad Stent

2020-05-0701:24:35

Brad Stent is an entrepreneur, a filmmaker, a voice artist and presenter who began his professional life early, with youthful confidence and reckless abandon.  He was presenting his first radio show at fifteen years old and he had established a company making advertisements before he turned twenty.  A few years in, his professional and personal life unravelled and Brad spiralled to rock bottom where he remained paralysed for some time.  Soon however, he picked himself up and slowly rebuilt his life.  He’s now a new man and is committed to working on projects that affect positive change.  This is a story about hope.  Brad is living proof that it’s never too late to turn your life around.  Tune up, tune in. 
Episode #91 Te Radar

Episode #91 Te Radar

2020-04-2301:27:55

Te Radar is a highly respected and well-known comedian, documentarian and social and political commentator who has worked in war-zones, dived with sharks, played with scorpions and even plunged into the Ross Sea in Antarctica wearing only a skimpy pair of togs.  You know Te Radar from his various shows including Off The Radar, Eating the Dog, Nine to Noon and War Tourist – Christmas in Bethlehem. We have an action packed conversation about how recent events have impacted the entertainment world, his innovative approach to touring, the art of comedy, working in war-zones, the time he couldn't find the war, the one question he asked Yasser Arafat and his thoughts and ideas towards an uncertain future.  Do it!
Episode #90 Bonnie Hurunui

Episode #90 Bonnie Hurunui

2020-04-0901:20:25

Bonnie Hurunui came from humble beginnings in a family that didn’t have much money but had a lot of love and positivity.  After her studies, she worked in retail and then the corporate world, living a very normal non-show business life.  When she decided to pursue music seriously in her thirties, she hadn’t been warped by the music industry and all the experience she gained in her career gave her a completely different perspective and approach.  She soon cofounded the unique covers band White Chapel Jak who quickly turned heads with their unconventional set up, their surprising reworking of famous songs and their energetic performances.  Over the last few years they have grown from an unknown band playing pubs and markets, to a major touring act, playing festivals and selling out venues all over New Zealand.  Bonnie and her growing team are living proof of what can be achieved.  This is an inspiring listen.  Dig in!
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Jill Goddard

Great interview so honest.

Aug 17th
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