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Outrageous Love the Podcast: Our Journeys to Responsiveness

Author: Dr, Hollie

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Hear the journeys, stories, and testimonies of educators who are committed to being equitable and culturally responsive to the students who need them to be the most. Hosted by Dr. Sharroky Hollie, nationally recognized educator in cultural responsiveness
16 Episodes
Hear Suzanne Nguyen's fascinating  journey to responsiveness. Suzanne is  Executive Director of Federal, Bilingual, and Native American Programs for the Rio Rancho Public School District in Albuquerque, New Mexico. From her position in "mid level management," she has positively influenced cultural and linguistic responsiveness (CLR) in Rio Rancho slowly but surely.  Her advocacy is not only professional but personal because of her upbringing in New Mexico as an Asian American with Vietnamese heritage. More interestingly is her education experience, and the matriculation through school as the "only one" or "one of very few, "  which drives her passion for equity and CLR and at the same time has been the root of her bi-culturalism. Be moved by a life-changing homecoming she experienced as an adult. As always, anticipate Dr. Hollie's two cents with his take on "who is at the top" of your district could be the glass ceiling for your equity and CLR success. 
The focus on the unsung heroes - assistant superintendents, chief academic officers, and directors - continues with Dr. Meg Schnoor, Assistant Superintendent of Teaching and Learning in Palatine Schools (Chicago area). Meg's insights and sharp perspective about how to lead from behind is worthwhile. Rarely do we hear from the mortar of the brick so to speak. More interestingly is Dr. Schnoor's journey to responsiveness which takes us from her experience as a teacher in alternative education to a rise up the ranks to assistant superintendent.  In between is a delve into Meg's consciousness about her cultural intersections of class, ethnicity, and gender (with a splash of religion). As always, Dr. Hollie provides his two cents in this episode. This time he goes a bit off topic (or maybe not) with his spin on how to disconnect from work, which is a concession on his part, and why it is a challenge for him to disconnect. 
Episode 2 of season 2 debuts the Unsung Heroes Series, focusing specifically on assistant superintendents of instruction/professional development, chief of academic officers, and directors of equity/instruction/professional development. Dr. Ian Buchanan, Assistant Superintendent of Instruction in University City Schools (St. Louis), kicks off the series with fire. Hear Ian's incredible journey to responsiveness from East St. Louis to now founder and CEO of the Nia Education Group ( Dr. Buchanan demonstrates his in-depth knowledge about cultural and linguistic responsiveness (CLR), as we define it, with references from Billie Holiday to Tupac Shakur to Bayard Rustin and a very interesting story related to situational appropriateness. As always, hear Dr. Hollie's riff , this time on anti-black culture stances and the importance of recognizing the nuance of culture. 
Welcome to season two of Outrageous Love the Podcast! The first episode, dubbed the personal episode, features Dr. Hollie's daughter,  Attorney Imani Hollie's journey to responsiveness. Imani shares her journey from the lenses of a daughter, a former student of the Culture and Language Academy of Success (CLAS) and as an attorney working in criminal law. The highlights of CLAS, a laboratory school for cultural responsiveness founded by Dr. Hollie, Anthony Jackson, and Janis Bucknor in 2003 are themed as well. For a fuller description of CLAS, check out the documentary, OASIS: The Story of CLAS. While the success of CLAS is celebrated, the tragic death of Daunte Wright is acknowledged and lamented. Will it ever end and what are we going to do different this time are the questions to be answered. Hear Dr. Hollie's "two cents" about the never-ending killings of BIPOC men and women at the hands of law enforcement.  Season two, episode 1 is a celebration, an appreciation, and a call to action (again).
Episode 12 is the final entry for season 1 and it end on a very high note. Meet Bianca Suglia, 5th grade French Immersion teacher,  for one of the most diverse and interesting journeys to responsiveness thus far. In addition to her teachers teach testimony, Bianca fascinates us with her journey, which starts in Romania and lands in, of all places, Edina, Minnesota. Incredible!  Bianca's diversity brings intrigue on multiple levels - language, nationality, and ethnicity. Find out the cultural connections between Isaac Newton, Columbia, and Maya Angelou.  As always, hear Dr. Hollie's commentary. This time he riffs on the mix of emotions in the air right now as more students return to in-person schooling, as COVID appears to be in 4th quarter, as vaccinations steadily increase and as the watchful eye of justice hovers over the George Floyd trial.  Siempre Adelante!!!
Welcome to the new year, a new president, the new normal, and a new episode of Outrageous Love the Podcast. 2021 and episode 10 kick off a new 3-part series, Teachers Teach, which puts the focus on the outstanding, noble, and sacrificial work educators have been doing for our students for almost one year. Whether it be in-person with students, in a so-called hybrid model, or totally virtual, our educators have stepped up to the plate and made a significance difference for countless students. This new series is meant to celebrate and honor their work and to give a few of them a platform to express themselves. Part 1 starts with Dr. Genita Williams, educator extraordinaire, from the ATL by way of the STL. Dr. Williams has been an university professor,  district administrator, school leader, and now back to where it all started, a middle school teacher. Yes! A school leader who made the choice to go "front" to the classroom. Hear Genita's journey from classroom teacher to celebrated school leader to classroom teacher again. Hear Dr. Hollie's "two cents" on his takeaways from working with thousands of teachers (virtually) during the pandemic. 
In the final edition of the special series, Superintendents Who Love Outrageously, Dr. Hollie culminates the focus on leadership with an outstanding superintendent, Dr.  Judy Baseman of Appleton Schools in Wisconsin. Dr. Baseman shares her journey to responsiveness from music teacher with indigenous students in Montana and with urban students in Chicago to principal and assistant superintendent in Appleton and now  the current superintendent. Judy makes key connections between the importance of effective leadership and being "responsive." She also opens the window into a look at Hmong culture, which is one of the underserved student populations not discussed nearly enough. As always, hear Dr. Hollie's two cents (commentary) on additional attributes of culturally and linguistically responsive leaders as this special series on leadership comes to a close. Find out the significance of the Hmong Story Cloth for Dr. Baseman
What is the connection among Meg Thee Stallion, showing outrageous love virtually versus in person, born and raised in Virginia but living in Ithaca (of all places),  the struggles of leading a district courageously and unapologetically Black, being a lifelong reader and lover of comic books, and an unsolved murder mystery? Find out in this suspense-filled, action-packed episode. We are continuing the special series on featuring superintendent's who love outrageously. This month,  Dr. Luvelle Brown, Superintendent of Ithaca Schools, shares his incredible journey to cultural responsiveness - culturally rich, thought-provoking, and a bit of bromance with Dr. Brown and Dr. Hollie.  Luvelle is an internationally recognized leader in equity and leadership, specializing in working with superintendents and school boards. He is an author/speaker as well. HIs book, Culture of Love: Cultivating a Positive and Transformational Organizational Culture, is a best seller. Check out  As with every episode, Dr. Hollie will provide an opportunity  for us to affirm ourselves and give us his two cents on all matters related to cultural responsiveness. 
The special series continues with Dr. Laurie Heinz, fearless and courageous leader of the Palatine/D15 Schools, located near Chicago. Dr. Heinz's journey to responsiveness treks from her childhood in Chicago to being named one of the top 100 superintendents in the nation. She brings a diverse perspective to cultural and linguistic responsiveness (CLR) as a female leader with an Irish/Italian cultural background. Laurie checks all the boxes for loving and leading outrageously, leveraging her varied experiences over the years to what has quickly become an inspiring success story in Palatine. Episode 6 also provides another opportunity to hear a commentary from Dr. Hollie. This time he focuses on negative energy/resistance and how, during the racial justice reckoning, is not the time to be silent.  He shares some challenges with CLR in a few states (no names mentioned) urging all of us to cause "good trouble."
Of the many variables the twindemic - Covid-19 and Racial Justice Reckoning - has revealed, lack of strong leadership at the national and, in some cases, at the local level is most telling because of the life and death consequences. This fifth episode begins a special series focusing on leadership at the superintendent level. The focus will be supts who get cultural and linguistic responsiveness (CLR) and have been able to implement it successfully. We call these leaders superintendents who love outrageously and we are starting with Dr. Sharonica Hardin-Bartley of University City in St. Louis. Dr. Hardin shares her inspirational journey to responsiveness not only as a leader of an urban district but as an African American woman in a position dominated by white males primarily and historically. She speaks passionately and powerfully about her own education and how that led to her vision of the "heart" work that must come first. Episode 5 also includes Dr. Hollie's two cents on leadership and what he considers are the essentials for any leader to lead CLR successfully.
Straight from the epicenter of the murder of George Floyd and the ensuing global uprisings, in this episode, we hear from school leader and equity warrior, Dr. George Nolan. As an educator in Minneapolis-St. Paul and the surrounding areas, Dr. Nolan witnessed first hand the aftermath of Floyd's murder that has gripped not only the Twin Cities but the world in what has become the spark for racial justice reformation. His perspective is multi-faceted and fascinating. Over the past 15 years, George has been a dean, assistant principal, principal and central office director. He has viewed the fight for equity, justice, and cultural responsiveness from many vantage points that we can learn from. Coupled with his experience as an educator, though, is his reality of living in central Minnesota as an African American man, which adds an additional, complex layer to his journey to responsiveness, as he, like many African American men, realized that George Floyd could have been him.
This episode features the compelling journey of Dr. Berlinda Begay, first and foremost, a citizen of Navajo Nation and also an educator and advocate. Hear her "tell it like it is" as it applies to US education and the struggle for Navajo students, including her personal story of being able to reach the highest levels of academia. For those wanting to hear from an authentic Navajo educator, Dr. Begay's narrative will shift your mindset. The depth of her truth is in the nuance. Listen carefully. And given the now urgent call for an end to police brutality and the elimination of systemic racism, Dr. Hollie opens with an initial, reactionary commentary to the murder of George Floyd (note that the recording of this episode occurred during the week of the initial worldwide protests/uprisings) and the espisode ends with an honoring of some of the African American men and women murdered by law enforcement on camera over the past 30 years. The reference for these names and the circumstances comes from NPR's A Decade Of Watching Black People Die.     
As the first "official" guest, Outrageous Love, the Podcast is honored to have renowned, international author and speaker, Anthony Muhammad. He is founder and CEO of New Frontier 21,, founded in 2006. Long ago, Dr. Muhammad observed a void in the field of education in the area of authentic and powerful professional development opportunities for urban and rural educators. As a successful and award-winning teacher and administrator, he wanted to provide real strategies that would empower educators to eliminate the student achievement gap. As a best selling author of numerous books,, Anthony has reached scores of educators. His book, Transforming School Culture (2nd Edition), has sold over 100,000 copies. Anthony is one of the most sought after educational consultants in North America. 
The deserved spotlight on the frontline workers in education continues. Episode 11 features high school teacher Felicia Homberger from the Hopkins Schools in Minneapolis-St. Paul. Felicia's journey to responsiveness starts in Milwaukee and works its way through Boston to New York, landing in the Twin Cities. Key to her journey is the celebration and resonation of her Jewish heritage, which she is very proud of. Felicia provides insight and perspective about cultural responsiveness through the lens of Jewish culture. You will be moved by " tikkun olam," Felicia's inspiration to stay steadfast in ongoing fight for social justice. And, let's not forget, it is Black History Month! Hear Dr. Hollie's take on BHM and his call for celebrating culture all year long - everyday and in anyway.   
The final episode of 2020! Episode 9 celebrates the end of a helluva year and the optimism of a new year, 2021. This edition also celebrates Claudia Salinas, Vice President of English Learning for Curriculum Associates and her fascinating journey to responsiveness from Nicaragua to the United States. Claudia speaks about validation and affirmation from various perspectives - the corporate world, the education world, and as a parent and community member in Dallas, Texas. Not to mention her bilingualism and biculturalism.  Another celebration in episode 9 is Dr. Hollie's All I Want for Christmas Is You list. Listen in to hear what Dr. Hollie wants for the giving season. A last celebration is you the listener. Thank you for being part of Outrageous Love the Podcast. Listen in to hear about Nacatamales
In this inaugural episode, Dr. Sharroky Hollie provides the purpose and format of Outrageous Love the Podcast, which includes the core principles of cultural and linguistic responsiveness or being validating, affirming, and building, and bridging (or VABB) as we define it. He also serves as host and the first guest. So, Sharroky interviews Dr. Hollie to give him (Dr. Hollie) the opportunity to share his journey to responsiveness. To know more about VABB and the CLR approach go to
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