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Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders offers a smart, fast-paced discussion on all things leadership. Scott and his expert guests cover timely, relevant topics and incorporate practical tips designed to help you make a difference in how you lead and live. 

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Dr. Steve Kempster is an Emeritus Professor of Leadership Learning and Development at Lancaster University Management School and is an Associate Partner of the Regenerative Alliance. He has published broadly on leadership learning, leadership of purpose, and responsible leadership with five books and many articles and chapters. Steve leads the Good Dividends project  (www.gooddividends.com) – formed from an interdisciplinary group of academics drawn from 5 universities in Europe and Australasia – to enable business leaders to develop their business models towards becoming regenerative and realising good growth. His latest book is ‘Good Dividends: Responsible Leadership of Business Purpose’. Recently, Steve has been the director of the Lancaster University Made Smarter and Evolve Digital programmes, which link digitalisation with regenerative outcomes and are funded by the UK government. He is currently co-director of Lancaster University's ‘Good Growth’ Programme, which is focused on reframing growth towards regenerative outcomes and building towards a well-being economy. A Quote From This Episode"What we require is evidence...where is the evidence base? How is this all coming together? How can we see the difference from this leadership that's been pursued -  regenerative leadership."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeOrganization - B for Good LeadersPodcast - The Rest is PoliticsPodcast - The Daily DougBook: Radical Hope by LearBook: How Democracies Die by Levitsky and Ziblatt  Book: How Civil Wars Start by WalterAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024. About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Dr. Les Sylven has been a police officer in Canada for over 30 years, serving with three different police organizations in a wide variety of roles, from a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer in a rural community to a municipal Police Chief. During his policing career, he was actively involved in numerous public safety initiatives for which he was recognized by the Governor General of Canada, receiving the Order of Merit of the Police Forces in 2020.  He is a life member of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police and an active member of the International Leadership Association. A Quote From This Episode"For me, your breath is with you all the time."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeDissertation: Mindful of Authority: Exploring the Practice of Meditation, Mindfulness, and Leadership with Commissioned Canadian Police OfficersOrganization: Cascade Institute Book: Strength in Stillness by Bob RothAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024. About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Brian Fishel has more than 30+ years of strategic Human Resources and business experience across multiple industries. He has successfully provided thought leadership and advice to CEOs and C-Suite executives on various strategic business decisions and human capital matters.  Brian has extensive experience leading numerous CEO and C-suite successions and transitions, coaching and developing high-potential leaders, and leading merger-acquisition integration and culture alignment.  Brian is skilled at working with Executive teams and a company’s Board of Directors.Brian served as KeyBank’s (a top 15 bank in the United States) Chief Human Resources Officer from 2018-2024. He also served as Key’s Chief Talent Officer from 2013-2018, leading enterprise talent management, leadership development, recruiting, and training. Before joining KeyBank, Brian spent 15 years at Bank of America in various senior talent management roles, including the Global Head of Executive and High Potential Development.  Before Bank of America, Brian held various global senior-level Human Resources roles with The Coca-Cola Company and Pizza Hut, at the time, a subsidiary of PepsiCo.Brian currently serves on the Board of Trustees at St. Edwards High School in Cleveland, Ohio, where he is a member of the Strategic Initiatives Committee.  In 2015, Brian won the prestigious Talent Management Executive of the Year Award from Crains Business Magazine of Cleveland, and in 2020, he was named to the Top CHRO list by N2Growth.A Quote From This Episode"Individuals earlier in their career begin to emerge and differentiate themselves from others by excelling at delivering results, taking on and succeeding in new and different challenges, and collaborating and working well with others."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: The Leadership Pipeline by Charan & DrotterBook: The Tao of Backup Catcher by Brown and KratzBook: Can't Hurt Me by David GogginsArticle: Muscle Build the Organization by PearsonArticle: Eighty-Eight Assignment for Developing in Place by Lombardo and ElchingerAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024. About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Dr. Marianne Roux has 30 years of global experience as an HR Executive, Future of Work Strategist, and Professor of Leadership. She holds a Master's degree in HR and Organisational Psychology and is completing her Ph.D. in Leadership in the Future of Work context. She runs Roux Consulting, a global niche consulting firm based in Dublin, Ireland, and regularly teaches at Business Schools worldwide.She has worked for PWC, Accenture, Deloitte, and Mercer and held two HR Director roles in two countries—Woolworths Food South Africa and Cricket Australia. Her experience spans several industries, and she focuses mainly on the Future of Work Strategy, Leadership Development, Organisation Redesign, and HR transformation.She has recently published a book on Adaptive HR and a Personal Agility reflection journal, Knowing Your Superpowers is the Key to Your Success in a Changing World, and she is featured in Maturing Leadership: How Adult Development Impacts Leadership.A Quote From This Episode"I was really frustrated...every leader I worked with had pretty much gotten an MBA, had one or two coaches, done several executive development plans, and was still woefully inadequate as a leader." Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook:  Leadership Fit For The Future Of Work by RouxBook: The Right Kind of Wrong by EdmonsonAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024. About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Eric Svaren coaches executives, as well as senior and emerging leaders, in business, tech, health care, research, higher education, government, associations, and NGOs. He is also an organization development (OD) consultant, serving local, national, and international clients. He teaches Leadership in Action for the Daniel J. Evans School of Public Policy and Governance at the University of Washington. Eric is also a developmental leadership coach for Global Leadership Associates in the United Kingdom.With students and clients, he focuses on the practical application of theories and models to pressing leadership, organizational, and societal problems. He draws on research and writing on adult development theory, adaptive leadership, team dynamics, culture, equity, engagement, adult learning, and polarity management.Eric served in internal roles supporting clinical operations in a national cancer center, staffing a Seattle city council member, and running a joint labor-management program.He earned his Master’s degree in sociology at UW, with concentrations in social psychology and organizational sociology. He also holds certifications in many coaching and OD methods and instruments. A Quote From This Episode"Leadership is all around us, but most of the time, we're not recognizing it. And that leadership is usually "Little L" leadership. It's not broadcast, it's not announced, and it doesn't have a marquee like a movie theater; it’s something that is happening very subtly, and it takes a trained eye to notice it. And one of the things I'd like to leave my students with is that trained eye."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeInfographic: Technical Problems vs. Adaptive Challenges by SvarenArticle: The Principles of little 'L' leadership by SvarenBooks:  The Wager, Killers of the Flower Moon by David GrannBook: The Secret Hours by Mick HerronAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024. About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Amiel Handelsman is a seasoned executive coach with 20+ years of experience helping leaders and teams navigate complexity. His clients have included college presidents, C-level business executives, and teams at every level. He is passionate about climate solutions and specializes in helping people deliver what they promise and build highly engaged workforces. Amiel is the author of four books, including Practice Greatness and the free e-books Reimagining American Identity and How To Be An Anti-race Antiracist, and is a frequent guest on podcasts. He holds a B.A. in Public Policy Studies from Duke University and an MBA from the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan. Amiel lives with his wife and two children in Ann Arbor, Michigan.A Quote From This Episode"Emotion is like the weather, which changes frequently, and mood is like the climate."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeAmiel's Podcast - How My View GrewAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024. About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a business consultant, coach and international speaker, who currently serves part-time as the Sr. Advisor, EDI Initiatives and Adjunct Lecturer at Queen’s University. Her memoir, Can You Hear Me Now?   was published in 2021. Her leadership development app, MaximizingU, is available on Google Play and the App Store. Celina was the former Member of Parliament for Whitby, Parliamentary Secretary to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and Parliamentary Secretary for International Development. During her term as a Member of Parliament, Celina was awarded several distinctions, including a feature in the April 2018 edition of O (Oprah Winfrey) Magazine entitled, “What would you stand up for?” She has a Bachelor of Science, an MBA in Healthcare Management, and an Executive MBA from the Rotman School of Management. She is currently enrolled in a neuroscience PhD program at Queen’s University, exploring the intersection of empathy, leadership, and equity. Celina is also a [Deepak] Chopra Certified Health and Meditation Instructor and bases much of her work on Ayurvedic principles, self-awareness, and development.Before politics, Celina founded Resolve Research Solutions, Inc. This research management consulting firm provides research, consulting, and education services to organizations seeking equity and advancing progress for those with multiple intersecting identities. A Quote From This Episode"This is the story of me falling in love with, at last with, who I am and finding my voice in the unlikeliest of places."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: Can You Hear Me Now? by Celina Caesar-ChavannesBook: The Conversation by Robert LivingstonAuthor: Isabella WilkersonAuthor: Bell HooksAuthor:  Michel FoucaultAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024. About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Roy Tuscany is originally from Waterbury, VT, and after graduating from the University of Vermont with a Mechanical Engineering degree, he headed west to pursue the dream of being a professional free-skier. In 2006, Roy suffered a life-changing injury that left him paralyzed from the waist down and was the catalyst for the creation of High Fives. Roy turned the financial and community support of his recovery into a ‘pay-it-forward’ adventure with the creation of the High Fives Foundation. He was named the “Spirit Inspires” award from Disabled Sports USA in 2011 and once held the World Record for the most high fives in 24 hours. He lives in Reno, NV, with his partner Alana Nichols and son Gunnar. He enjoys finding fun in everything he does - biking, skiing, surfing, and everything outdoors.A Quote From This Episode"Post-traumatic growth is a rare phenomenon that individuals, after sustaining a life-changing injury, not only change to the way they physically move, but also their path of life."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeMovie: Full Circle Documentary on Netflix (It's Awesome)Video: Good by Jocko WillinkMany Lives, Many Masters by Brian Weiss The Myth of Normal by Gabor MateDiscipline is Destiny by Ryan HolidayGreen Lights by Matthew McCuahneMatthew McConaugheyMindset by Carol DweckSand Talk by Tyson YunkaportaAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
George A. Papandreou is the former Prime Minister of Greece (2009-2011) and is currently a Member of Parliament with the Panhellenic Socialist Movement/Movement of Change. As an MP, he represents the Hellenic Parliament in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and has led over the years the work of several Committees in producing recommendations for the deepening of democracy, human rights, and the rule of law across its 47 member-states. During his premiership, he applied a series of structural reforms in his attempt to modernize his country whilst avoiding bankruptcy during Greece’s 2010 debt crisis. For his achievements related to government Transparency, he received the Quadriga Award in the category “Power of Veracity.. In 2010, he was named one of the Foreign Policy magazine’s TOP 100 Global Thinkers. In 2017, he was honored with the International Leadership Association (ILA) Distinguished Leadership Award.Dr. Ron Heifetz is among the world’s foremost authorities on the practice and teaching of leadership. He speaks extensively and advises heads of governments, businesses, and nonprofit organizations across the globe. Heifetz founded the Center for Public Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School where he has taught for nearly four decades. He is the King Hussein bin Talal Senior Lecturer in Public Leadership. His research addresses two challenges: developing a conceptual foundation for the analysis and practice of leadership; and developing transformative methods for leadership education, training, and consultation. Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University.  A Quote From This Episode"There has to be a sense of justice. If you don't have that, you will get a sense of injustice, which then will be used by demagogues. Demagogues will polarize. Polarization will bring chaos, and chaos will bring tyranny."About The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
George A. Papandreou is the former Prime Minister of Greece (2009-2011) and is currently a Member of Parliament with the Panhellenic Socialist Movement/Movement of Change. As an MP, he represents the Hellenic Parliament in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and has led over the years the work of several Committees in producing recommendations for the deepening of democracy, human rights, and the rule of law across its 47 member-states. During his premiership, he applied a series of structural reforms in his attempt to modernize his country whilst avoiding bankruptcy during Greece’s 2010 debt crisis. For his achievements related to government Transparency, he received the Quadriga Award in the category “Power of Veracity.. In 2010, he was named one of the Foreign Policy magazine’s TOP 100 Global Thinkers. In 2017, he was honored with the International Leadership Association (ILA) Distinguished Leadership Award.Dr. Ron Heifetz is among the world’s foremost authorities on the practice and teaching of leadership. He speaks extensively and advises heads of governments, businesses, and nonprofit organizations across the globe. Heifetz founded the Center for Public Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School where he has taught for nearly four decades. He is the King Hussein bin Talal Senior Lecturer in Public Leadership. His research addresses two challenges: developing a conceptual foundation for the analysis and practice of leadership; and developing transformative methods for leadership education, training, and consultation. Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University.  A Quote From This Episode"But the power of social media and the power of fake news was something I hadn't dealt with. How quickly it spreads. And how quickly it spreads worldwide, not just in Greece."About The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Dr. Barry L. Boyd is an Associate Professor in the Department of Agricultural Leadership, Education, & Communications (ALEC) at Texas A&M University. He holds the Thaman Professorship in Undergraduate Teaching Excellence. Dr. Boyd earned his doctorate from Texas A&M in 1991 with an emphasis in leadership education and instructional. He teaches courses in personal and organizational leadership development, developing youth leadership organizations, and applied ethics in leadership. Dr. Boyd’s research includes teaching and assessing critical thinking and using critical thinking in ethical decision-making. His team developed the QUEEN Model of Critical Thinking as part of a NIFA Higher Education grant. Dr. Jennifer Strong is an Associate Professor of Leadership in the Department of Agricultural Leadership, Education, and Communications at Texas A&M University. She teaches undergraduate and graduate courses in leadership theory, ethics, organizational culture, team development, and leadership in popular culture. Her research includes the impact of innovative teaching methods on effective leader development and the intersectionality between critical thinking behavior (QUEEN Model), ethics, and followership. Dr. Strong received her bachelor's and master’s degrees in leadership from Texas A&M and her Ph.D. from Oklahoma State University. A Quote From This Episode"Our students need to be able to talk about following ethically...we know not all leaders are ethical, and we know that there are ways that we need to govern ourselves so that we can lead up."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: Ethical Leadership: Theory to Practice by Boyd and StrongBook: The Dichotomy of Leadership by Willinck and RabinBook: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes by CollinsBook: Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo by ReidBook: Daisy Jones & The Six by ReidBook: The Three-Body Problem by Liu & LiuBook: Black Chalk by YatesAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Dr. Dennis Tourish is Professor of Leadership and Organisation Studies at the University of Sussex. He is the former editor of the journal Leadership, and the author of several books including The Dark Side of Transformational Leadership, published and Management Studies in Crisis: Fraud, Deception and Meaningless Research. He is a proponent of the Responsible Research of Business and Management Network an organization that envisions a world where business and management research is used in practice to improve the lives of people. Quote From This Episode"Populist leaders after the Second World War, at the very least, made at least some show of respecting democratic norms and tried to achieve power through winning elections rather than through military adventures or pushes. Fascist leaders are much more overtly concerned with mobilizing an angry mob and turning loose on the traditional institutions of the state or the opposition."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeArticle: It is Time to Use the F word About Trump: Fascism, Populism and the Rebirth of History by TourishBook: Rebalancing Society by Mintzberg (free PDF)Book: Principles For Dealing with the Changing World Order by DalioBook: How Civil Wars Start by WalterBook: The Cult of Trump by HassanBook: The Fourth Turning is Here by HoweBook: Liberal Solidarity by HodgsonAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.Barbara Kellerman has spoken to audiences all over the world including in Beijing, Toronto, Moscow, Melbourne, Buenos Aires, Munich, Seoul, Jerusalem, Mumbai, Berlin, Shanghai, Sao Paolo, Kyoto, and Sydney. She received the Wilbur M. McFeeley award from the National Management Association for her pioneering work on leadership and followership, as well as the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association. From 2015 to 2023, she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”A Quote From This Episode"I'm choosing not to identify a leader of the year but explore why great leaders seem so few and far between."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeWebsite: Barbara KellermanBlog Post: Barbara Kellerman's Leader of the YearBook: How Civil Wars Start by WalterTed Talk: The Next Global Superpower Isn't Who You ThinkTed Interview: Ian Bremmber - The US vs. ItselfAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.Barbara Kellerman has spoken to audiences all over the world including in Beijing, Toronto, Moscow, Melbourne, Buenos Aires, Munich, Seoul, Jerusalem, Mumbai, Berlin, Shanghai, Sao Paolo, Kyoto, and Sydney. She received the Wilbur M. McFeeley award from the National Management Association for her pioneering work on leadership and followership, as well as the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association. From 2015 to 2023, she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”A Quote From This Episode"Liberal democracies struggle with governing in an age when leaders are so weak. They have very little power, authority, and less influence than ever, and followers are emboldened to be outrageous."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: Leadership From Bad to WorseBlog: Babara Kellerman's BlogAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Dr. Susan R. Komives is Professor Emerita in the Student Affairs Graduate Program at the U. Maryland where she taught until 2012. She is past president of CAS and ACPA and was Vice President of two institutions.  She is the co-author or co-editor of 16 books, including Exploring Leadership, Leadership for A Better World, Handbook for Student Leadership Development, and How Academic Disciplines Approach Leadership. She and her research teams developed the Multi-institutional Study of Leadership and the Leadership Identity Development grounded theory. She is co-founder of the National Clearinghouse for Leadership Programs and the founding editor of the Wiley New Directions for Student Leadership series. Dr. Julie E. Owen (she/her) is an Associate Professor of Leadership Studies at the School of Integrative Studies, George Mason, where she coordinates the leadership studies major and minor and is affiliate faculty with Women and Gender Studies and the Higher Education Program. Her most recent book is We are the Leaders We've Been Waiting For: Women and Leadership Development in College (Stylus, 2020).. Owen identifies as a white, currently-able, middle-class, cisgender woman working in the academy. She is committed to using her voice to advocate for positive social change leading to more equitable leadership for all and to consider how identities and social power shape practice. She explores the intersections of leadership identity, women’s adult development, and the scholarship of liberatory leadership teaching and learning. About The Book"An essential resource for leadership educators and practitioners interested in advancing equity and social justice outcomes in their program delivery."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: A Research Agenda for Leadership Learning and Development Through Higher EducationFilm: Little Richard: I Am EverythingBlog: Queerig LeadershipTV Show: YellowstoneAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
The Right Honourable Beverley McLachlin, P.C., C.C., CStJ, served as Chief Justice of Canada from 2000 to mid-December 2017. In June 2018, she was made a Companion of the Order of Canada, the country’s highest accolade. She works in ADR as a bilingual arbitrator and mediator in Canada and internationally.During her 28 years on the Supreme Court of Canada, she helped decide a wide variety of common law and civil law disputes in both French and English. Her tenure as Chief Justice was the longest in Canadian history. The 2,094 Supreme Court of Canada judgments in which she participated—of which she wrote 442—and her legal writings and speaking include a wide range of subjects in corporate, construction, financial services, taxation, contract, tort, IT, patent, copyright, other areas of business law, as well as arbitration and mediation. She has received over 35 honorary degrees from universities in Canada and abroad, and numerous other honours and awards.Ms. McLachlin is also a Justice of Singapore’s International Commercial Court and the Hong Kong Final Court of Appeal.Quote From This Episode"I would actually, consciously, try to put myself into the shoes of each of the parties and imagine, through an exercise, conscious exercise, what it would be like to have suffered what they suffered or encountered what they encountered, and how I would feel if I had encountered or suffered that."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeResource: Every Single Cognitive Bias in One InfographicBook: Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by DalioBook: Truth Be Told: My Journey Through Life and the Law by McLachlinArticle: Justice Beverley McLachlin: A Remarkable Journey to the ‘Centre Chair by ErbArticle: 'Conscious objectivity': That's how the chief justice defines the top court's role. Harper might beg to differ by BreanAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University.  She speaks to non-profit and for-profit organizations worldwide and writes in leadership, organizational development, and higher education. Cynthia’s interests and research explore new ways to live, work, and lead in a knowledge-driven, interdependent, global culture. Dr. Jim Dennis served as president of McKendree University for more than 25 years. Under his leadership the former chairmain of the board said the following of his leadership while at the University - “The accomplishments achieved as a result of Jim Dennis’ leadership have been nothing short of miraculous...Upon his arrival in 1994, he sought to breathe new life and vitality into this institution—and he has done so by every measure. The McKendree University community has been transformed by a more diverse faculty and student body, state-of-the-art facilities, a rich curriculum and presence in the arts, a focus on service, and graduating young men and women who are successful in every field and walk of life.” He also spent 27 years at the University of Southern California and is the co-founder of Cousins Camp (perhaps one of his greatest achievements).Quote From This Episode"There's nothing much better than having grandkids, having them nearby, interacting with them, and being a very small part of their lives. And they don't know, but they're a very big part of our lives...the sheer joy that one gets from interacting with five little kids who are starting on their journey of life and watching them develop and grow."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: The Boys in the Boat by BrownBook: How Democracies Die by Levitsky and Ziblatt  Website: David BrooksAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Maxime Fern and Michael Johnstone are life and working partners, based in Sydney and Canberra, Australia, where they started their consulting practice (Vantage Point Consulting) in 1988. They have worked as leadership consultants, facilitators, and coaches with clients in the public and private sectors, not-for-profits, and professional service firms for forty years. They were visiting faculty at the Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University for fifteen years, are on the Faculty Advisory Board of the global Adaptive Leadership Network (Washington, D.C.), and are members of the Inaugural Faculty for the Australian Adaptive Leadership Institute. Before starting Vantage Point, Maxime was a development officer for the Australian Public Service, a social health visitor in a low-income neighborhood, and a counseling psychologist for the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation. She is an Australian National University (Psychology and Politics) graduate with a Master of Educational Counselling from Canberra. Maxime can be found in her gardens, and she practices her Italian on Duolingo in her spare time.Michael trained as a youth worker and has worked as a town and regional planner, social researcher, and university lecturer in Human Geography and Sociology - and for a while, was a dairy farmer on a kibbutz in Israel. He holds a BA from Auckland University, a Master of Social Science (cum laude) from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and a Ph.D. from the Australian National University. In his spare time, he likes to read, cook, watch movies, and work in the gym.They have three children and eight grandchildren and live in Sydney and Lazio, Italy, north of Rome.Quote From This Episode"We wanted to expand people's capacity to think about provocation as something productive, something worthwhile, and that, for leaders, something essential."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: Provocation as Leadership - A Roadmap for Adaptation and Change by Fern and JohnstoneBook: The Social Brain: The Psychology of Successful Groups by Camilleri, Rockey, and DunbarBook: Musk by Isaacson About The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Dr. Jonathan Gosling is an Emeritus Professor of Leadership at Exeter University in the UK and a visiting scholar at other universities, including Bled, McGill, Monash, Renmin, and UWE. He has taught and researched leadership for over 30 years and is now an independent academic and consultant at Pelumbra.com. Current projects include with the Forward Institute promoting responsible leadership in government, NGOs, and business; supporting the front-line leadership of HIV and malaria control programs in southern Africa; running a series of ‘One Planet Leadership’ RoundTables for experienced managers  - and a new initiative to do the same for full-time students. He hosts writing retreats and this year published the 2nd Edition of Exploring Leadership: Individual, Organisational and Societal Perspectives’ (co-authored with Richard Bolden and Beverley Hawkins).He represented UK Universities at the Rio+20 UN Sustainability Summit. He contributed to the ‘greening’ of management education, e.g., as co-author of the textbook Sustainable Business: A One Planet Approach and co-founder of One Planet Education Networks (OPEN). He worked as a community mediator for many years, co-founded Coachingourselves.com, and received the ILA’s ‘Lifetime Achievement Award’ in 2021. He is a keen sailor of fast catamarans and slow cruisers. Quotes From This Episode"We're coming to a point where the drivers of change are probably going to be stronger than the drivers for continuity."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeBook: Hospicing Modernity by OliveiraBook: Principles for Dealing with a Changing World Order by DalioBook: The Coming Wave by SuleymanBook: 21 Lessons for the 21st Century by HarariArticle: A Leader's Framework for Decision Making by Snowden and BooneAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
Rick Koster founded Leaderscope in 2013, a network of leadership trainers, coaches, and facilitators who develop courageous leadership to transform teams, organizations, and systems.Rick has a background in ecology, neurobiology, leadership, and communication skills development. He specializes in developing and guiding transformative leadership programs, leadership team guidances, and designing processes for strategy development. He works in The Netherlands, where he lives, in Europe and Africa.Leaderscope has a broad range of diverse clients, from large corporate organizations, many of them in food, to schools and universities, to health organizations and local and national governments. This is what Rick loves: diving into an organization, understanding how the ‘system’ works, and seeing what is needed for positive change.Some of the leadership programmes Rick and his team have developed and delivered are the Nudge Global Impact Challenge and the European Nutrition Leadership Programme. Rick is also an established contributor to the programmes of the Academy of Leadership, Avicenna, in The Netherlands.Quotes From This Episode"If I've been working really hard in a session, that's not a good sign. They have to be working really hard and doing most of the work because something has to happen within their organization or their team. And I'm the facilitator of that transformation.""Deep democracy is a way of thinking, a philosophy, a way of looking at organizations and teams. You look at the texture of an organization, the fabric of an organization. So, not what is happening in people, but between people - Iit's really beautiful."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeTelevision Show: ‘How To' with John WilsonOrganization: Deep Democracy InstituteApplication: CalmAbout The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll UniversityBoler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.About  Scott J. AllenWebsiteWeekly Newsletter: The Leader's EdgeMy Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.
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