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Author: Rachael Gallagher and Elizabeth Varaso

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In each episode of Everyday Thin Places, birth doula Elizabeth Varaso and interfaith hospice chaplain Rachael Gallagher ​draw from their experiences supporting birthing people and dying people to explore with honesty, authenticity and humor how we can all become more truly-living people.​ Although birth and death are two of the only truly universal human experiences, we often think of them as painful, frightening and best kept behind closed doors. But behind those closed doors Rachael and Elizabeth have experienced the wonder and delight of “thin places” - those points in space and time where the line between known and unknown, between temporal and eternal, between the ordinary and the transcendent become beautifully blurred. No matter if you are the kind of person who finds the topics of birth and death thrilling, terrifying or just not all that interesting Rachael and Elizabeth’s conversations with each other and with guests from all walks of life will draw you in and keep you coming back for more. No topic is off-limits and every episode will have you seeking and savoring the everyday opportunities to visit life’s thin places.
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In this very special episode, it's time for the Super Bowl. Joining us for the first time is Erik Johanson, Philadelphia sports fanatic. In the last 5 months, Philly fans have gotten quite a bit of excitement with both the Phillies and the Eagles competing in championship games. We talk to Erik about how his love for Phladelphia and it's sports teams developed, and how it has become a thin place for him. And we explore one more important piece of Erik's story: his complicated relationship with his father and where Erik is left after his father's death last summer.  Thank you for supporting this show and stay tuned for a whole new season coming soon.
Rachael and Elizabeth react to Everyday Thin Places turning two years old, before reflecting on the amazing guests we have had the privilege to host. Plus, what’s next for Everyday Thin Places?!As promised, click here to read about the astounding good news announced this week that is a game changer in cancer research. 
Elizabeth has been keeping busy making teacher appreciation gifts, and Rachael has been watching her teacher friends on social media as they wrap up the school year. It feels like a great time to talk about teachers and the impact the have made on our lives.•To share a teacher/student story for a future episode, reach us at•Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Everydaythinplaces).
Unbelieve with Marla Taviano

Unbelieve with Marla Taviano


This is a second episode with Marla Taviano because she HAS A NEW BOOK in the world! We explore the poetry within "Unbelieve - Poems on the Journey to Becoming a Heretic". From "I was wrong" to "God Loves Everyone" to "growing up evangelical" to "chirp chirp", every poem in this new book is eye-opening and relatable and honest and authentic.Everyday Thin Places appreciates its supporters. Want to support? Buy us a coffee: along on the "Everyday Thin Places Instagram:
Rachael and Elizabeth record an actual conversation about silence! In their conversation, Rachael discusses her thoughts on how silence can be used as a weapon. Plus, Elizabeth talks about how she's gotten curious and open to silence. SPOILER: She's starting to offer spiritual direction and is using silence as a tool.Don't forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.You can email the podcast at for more information on the show.Follow the podcast on Instagram.
Nope, this isn't a glitch or a mistake. We'll be back to talk about silence in our next episode.  But for today we invite you to take 7 minutes of silence for yourself.  Think of this as an experiment. As a treat. As an opportunity to experience an everyday thin place. Because sometimes there aren't words.Because sometimes silence is the friend that you need.Because there is an inner wisdom that you may not be able to hear until you turn down the noise.Because silence can be a sacred, thin place.
Rachael Gallagher and Elizabeth Varaso are joined by Angela Dobrynski, a Licensed Professional Counselor and Certified Grief Specialist.  While Angela has a wealth of professional experience in the world of grief and loss, this conversation focuses on her own personal story of grief, loss and the surprises that led to her building the family that she has today. You can connect with Angela on her website or follow her on Facebook.Follow Everyday Thin Places on Instagram to check out the images that go along with this episode.Buy us a cup of coffee to help us keep making this podcast and to receive and invitation to our private Facebook community. 



Rachael and Elizabeth talk all about ADVANCING (most notably, the Battle of Little Round Top, chemotherapy, and athletic training). Also, Elizabeth shares about an advance she received in order to help her neighbors and her family.Everyday Thin Places appreciates its supporters! Want to support? Buy us a coffee! Sign up: along on the Everyday Thin Places Instagram:



On this very special edition of "Everyday Thin Places", it's finally time for our first ever Everyday Thin Places RETREAT!!!!! We discuss our differing opinions on taking baths, our motivations for being in water, what we think about retreat, and some ideas for small everyday opportunities for retreats before we make the big announcement that we're hosting a retreat! To register for our upcoming virtual retreat on Saturday, May 14, make sure to head to reach us, you can email the podcast at the podcast on Instagram.
Oruguitas y Mariposas

Oruguitas y Mariposas


Rachael Gallagher and Elizabeth Varaso break down the everyday thin places we experienced in the Disney film, Encanto. Encanto is amazing, and if you haven't seen it yet, do yourself a favor and go watch this movie on Disney+. We will share some spoilers in this episode, but the movie is still worth watching even if it's been "spoiled".  And of course, because this IS Everyday Thin Places, we talk about birth and death and the magic and gifts that these universal experiences are. Encanto is not just for children or people who love children. It's for everyone, and it's a great learning tool especially if you are looking to explore family dynamics, transitions, mystery, and healing.Everyday Thin Places is powered by supporters like you! To keep all of our Everyday Thin Places content ad-free, consider buying us a cup of coffee to keep us going. Follow along on the "Everyday Thin Places" Instagram: always, reach us at
Life Coach, Melissa Jill Clark joins us on the Everyday Thin Places podcast to talk about having all we need within us now, yoga as embodied prayer, and Melissa's poem that was recently published in book form: Your Chrysalis: A Message of Hope for End of Life.We really talk about everything. Yoga? Yes. Fulfilling our legacies? Obviously. Birth and death? Of course.Everyday Thin Places is powered by listeners like you! To keep all our Everyday Thin Places content ad-free, consider buying us a cup of coffee to keep us going.Follow along on the "Everyday Thin Places" Instagram: always, reach us at
Today on the podcast, hosts Rachael Gallagher and Elizabeth Varaso talk with Philadelphia-area-based pastor and author, Matt Gorkos. Matt has built Storied Church Ministry Consulting , focused on cultivating connections through stories. One of his latest efforts: The Storied Church: A Strategy for Congregational Renewal explores the power of a good story and how harnessing that power can be impactful in the church and beyond.Matt mentions a children’s book series written by Kobi Yamada with beautiful illustrations by Mae Besom. The titles are “What Do You Do With a Problem?” “What Do You Do With An Idea?” And “What Do You Do With A Chance?”Matt would love to point listeners to the Human Library Project. Also mentioned in this episode: What is God Like? by Rachel Held Evans and Matthew Paul Turner.
Today on the podcast we go down memory lane - 2021 has been another doozy. We reflect on our hopefulness and cautious optimism last year at this time. Rachael reflects on the struggles that existed in 2021 as well as her ideas of how life would be once vaccines became available, and then Elizabeth shares her resolution that she made last year and that she's carrying into 2022. Thanks for listening!To reach us, you can email the podcast at everydaythinplaces@gmail.comFollow the podcast on Instagram.
In this special mini episode, Elizabeth interviews Rachael about the last six months of living back in her home state of Florida! Rachael talks about her latest projects and how this new lifestyle has become a thin place for her. Thanks for listening!Contribute to the show at us at
On this week's episode, Elizabeth Varaso shares about her latest thin place endeavor.Featuring:How she went from being the proud owner of 25 fragrance oils to owning 122 fragrance oils.Why she receives 55 pound bags of salt delivered to her home regularly.How Sharon Weiss fits into all of this.Everyday Thin Places is powered by subscribers like you! To keep all of our Everyday Thin Places content free and ad-free, consider buying us a cup of coffee to keep us going.Follow along with Everyday Thin Places on Instagram.As always, reach us at
Miniature Thin Places

Miniature Thin Places


Rachael and Elizabeth celebrate miniature things. Elizabeth shares about her household's delight in the thin places of miniature things and Rachael talks (again) about her love of small dogs. Then, we talk about the power of miniature things working their ways into places that larger things cannot: little things can have huge impacts.You can email the podcast at the podcast on Instagram.
Just in time, it's the last night of Hanukkah and so we are replaying this episode from last year.  In this episode, Rachael Gallagher and Elizabeth Varaso are joined by Dr. Liam Robins to discuss Hanukkah, embracing Judaism as an adult, the "thin place" experience of lighting the Hanukkah candles, and more. Buy us a cup of coffee:
This week Rachael and Elizabeth are hosting a conversation with David Richman, author of the book Cycle of Lives: 15 People's stories, 5,000 miles and a Journey through the Emotional Chaos of Cancer.  After losing his sister June to cancer, David was inspired to push the limits of what his body was capable of, and to engage his heart and mind with the emotional journey of those who have been diagnosed with cancer, their loved ones and the medical professionals who treat them.  You can find out more about David and his book as well as purchase Cycle of Lives at his website:  You can also follow Cycle of Lives on Facebook. All of the proceeds from the book go to a collection of cancer research and treatment facilities, but in particular David would encourage you to give a gift to the  Moffitt Cancer Center in Florida on behalf of Rachael. As always, we encourage you to rate and review Everyday Thin Places on your podcast platform of choice.  Follow us on Facebook or Instagram and check out Like what you hear and want to help us keep it up? Buy us a coffee! 
Rachael and Elizabeth give thanks for each other, for this podcast, and for our listeners. Plus, we take some time to share how you can help to support the podcast. Everyday Thin PLaces is powered by subscribers like you! To keep all our Everyday Thin Places content ad-free, consider making a donation by buying us a cup of coffee!To support the podcast financially, visit get in touch with us, you can email the podcast at everydaythinplaces@gmail.comVisit the podcast on Instagram. 
This week, we bring you a conversation about generosity as a thin place.More than anything, this episode felt like a really fun, yet super meaningful time of reflection.Featuring:different motivations for generositythe spiritual practice of generositybarriers to generosityElizabeth's research into the origins of the word generositya challenge to practice generosity this weekCheck back to see the still TBD "Brenda's Choice" cause to support.Also, please, please! Follow Everyday Thin Places: Thin Places is powered by generous listeners! To keep all of our Everyday Thin Places content free and accessible to all, consider making a donation to keep us going.As always, reach us at
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Deb Haken

it was great to hear your interview with Kay! it was the beauty and calm that nourished my soul today. I already feel like I know you three and hearing you chat made that even more real! love and blessings!

Nov 24th
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