Linux User Space

Coming up in this episode * The Browser Watch Leftovers * The History of GNOME * And Why Gnome is the best desktop * And a little holiday break Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:29 Riding the Lightning 16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME 23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x 25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x 33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x 41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond 48:01 How'd GNOME Go? 1:15:39 Next Time: Topics & KDE 1:26:18 Stinger Watch the Video! https://youtu.be/PxDELH497Ro Mini Browser Watch October 30, Mozilla announces the nightly Deb packages (https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2023/10/30/introducing-mozillas-firefox-nightly-deb-packages-for-debian-based-linux-distributions/) November 30, Mozilla announces the developer and beta Deb packages (https://hacks.mozilla.org/2023/11/firefox-developer-edition-and-beta-try-out-mozillas-deb-package/) Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Gnome The email in 1997 to start it all (https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/1997-August/msg00123.html) Development snapshot 0.13 announcement (https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1998-March/msg00002.html) GNOME 1.0 release (https://foundation.gnome.org/1999/03/03/gnome-1-0-released/) GUADEC (https://wiki.gnome.org/GUADEC) GNOME OG website (https://web.archive.org/web/20000407082920/http://www.gnome.org/) GNOME revamped website (https://web.archive.org/web/20000621134911/http://www.gnome.org/) HP's HP/UX and Sun's Solaris announce they would be using GNOME (https://www.computerworld.com/article/2596398/unix-vendors-adopt-gnome-desktop.html) as their default desktops. GNOME Foundation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation) GNOME 2.0 release (https://foundation.gnome.org/2002/06/26/gnome-2-0-released-desktop-environment-boasts-simpler-user-interface-and-a-host-of-powerful-developer-tools/) Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8 (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-October/000003.html) GNOME no longer part of GNU (https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00055.html) GNOME was no longer an acronym. (https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-April/msg00050.html) Gnome 3.0 arrives (https://foundation.gnome.org/2011/04/06/gnome-3-0-has-arrived/) Linus Torvalds noted (https://digitizor.com/linus-torvalds-ditches-gnome-for-xfce/) Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but noted that (https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desktop/) Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... GNOME (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/s/groupon-gnome-legal-war-almost-080504914.html). Again, the target of litigation (https://www.zdnet.com/article/leave-gnome-alone-this-patent-troll-is-asking-for-trouble/) Rothschild Patent Imaging was stripped of its patent rights (https://blog.opensource.org/gnome-patent-troll-stripped-of-patent-rights/) Gnome 40 (https://forty.gnome.org/) The Gnome 40 announcement (https://foundation.gnome.org/2021/03/24/gnome-40-release/) The Gnome 45 announcement (https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/09/20/introducing-gnome-45/) Original GNOME introduction (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3139) (~99) The Evolution of the GNOME Project (http://turingmachine.org/files/papers/dmg_wosse2002add.pdf) Using GNOME gmc (https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=131217&seqNum=12) (GNOME Midnight Commander) "A Brief History of GNOME" Presentation Notes (https://blogs.gnome.org/jrb/files/2017/07/A-Brief-History-of-GNOME-1.pdf) "A Brief History of GNOME" Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWUmptI6O2w) GNOME 2.0 - 40 Release Notes (https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Housekeeping Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the KDE Plasma Desktop Environment (https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/). We are taking a mini-holiday 🎄 pause, we will see you in the new year. ☃️ We wish you a happy holiday season! ❄️ Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim GrouchyM Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * Leo makes me a LUSsh 🍻 * Official standings for a browser * We strum some reverberations * Focus on the HQ * Focus on the sounds * Forecast the future Watch the video! https://youtu.be/-b1gHt0v4q8 Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 2:05 Go to lus.sh 8:38 Fed Up with Ubuntu? 14:20 * Forced Snaps 21:24 * Ads in the Terminal 27:00 * Telemetry?! 29:42 * Ubuntu is Anti-Freedom? 32:21 * Maybe use Linux Mint 34:43 Browser Watch 34:57 * The Vivaldi Flatpak 39:49 * Vivaldi on iOS 42:54 * iOS May Go WebKit Free 47:53 Reverb Focus 48:05 * Ian 53:13 * Dan! 58:26 * TeamLinux01 1:03:16 Community Focus: SteamDeckHQ 1:10:54 Gentoo Focus #5 1:23:46 Next Time: Gnome History 1:26:54 Stinger lus.sh (http://lus.sh) .sh is a common Shell Script file extension .sh is the first two letters in "show" like its bigger domain name brother .sh is also the first two letters in "short" Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Why Do We Still Use Ubuntu? TLDR we(Leo and Dan) don't mind some of the choices Ubuntu has made but we can appreciate that there are good alternatives for those that want to go a different way. More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Browser Watch! Vivaldi on Flatpak is Officially Unofficial Vivaldi Flatpak on Flathub (https://flathub.org/apps/com.vivaldi.Vivaldi) OMGUbuntu coverage (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/11/vivaldi-web-browser-flathub) Vivaldi is also on iOS Vivaldi is on iOS (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-launches-on-ios/) It has great features (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-ios-6-4/) The Chromium devs are developing a Blink version for iOS (https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/04/google-working-on-browser-that-would-break-rules/) Firefox devs are developing a Gecko version for iOS (https://www.macrumors.com/2023/02/07/mozilla-developing-non-webkit-version-of-firefox/) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Reverb Focus Ian comments on YouTube about Ed You can see the comments on this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUCuzkKGHos) Dan commented about Xfce history, Manjaro and KDE Plasma You can watch our Xfce history on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyI3pMqjQvo) Or TILvids (https://tilvids.com/w/6gFtNH1XywyFNd3heKHFro) TeamLinux01 wants to hear about Valve's Linux journey Thanks for the feedback. I think this might just be the push we needed to look into the history of Steam and Linux. We're both big fans so it makes sense. Community Focus - Steamdeck HQ (https://steamdeckhq.com/) Main Website - Steamdeck HQ (https://steamdeckhq.com/) Steamdeck HQ YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI49gT5yWGP7fLn2ql-DlgA) Steamdeck HQ on Mastodon (https://mastodon.world/@steamdeckhq) Gentoo Focus Last time on LUS Streaming Live (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1) FYI we do these live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode is released. Next Time We plan to explore and provide the history of Gnome Desktop Environment (https://www.gnome.org/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim GrouchyM(New Member🎉) Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * A little Musing on CDE * A few answers from the man himself * The history of XFce * How it went * And a new journey 0:00 Cold Open 1:29 Ask Olivier 20:04 Xfce History: In the Beginning (1996) 22:08 Enter XFce (1997) 24:47 The XForms Problem (1998) 25:56 The Third (1999) 29:32 The Fourth (2001-2015) 32:59 The Third, Again (2016-2023) 36:22 More Questions! 45:50 How'd Xfce Go? 1:02:25 Next Time 1:09:45 Stinger You can also watch on Youtube https://youtu.be/-tuDFBMJsxE Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Xfce Olivier Fourdan posted a question (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1997/0218.html) to a few newsgroups that got things started. XForms toolkit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XForms_(toolkit)) An early release announcement - 2.3.0 (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/0110-a.html) Changelog for 2.4.0 (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/0317-b.txt) which shows changes all the way back to the beginning. XFce 2.4 User Guide (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/xfce-2.4/en/index.html) XFce 3.2 User Guide (https://www.linux.co.cr/desktops/review/1999/xfce-3.2/help.html) 2000 Interview - 10 Questions with Olivier Fourdan (https://web.archive.org/web/20001017144724/http://www.linuxorbit.com/features/interview1.php3) 2001 Interview (https://web.archive.org/web/20010603075344/http://www.moongroup.com/stories.php?story=01/05/01/0821338) XFce 4.0 announcement September 25th 2003 (https://web.archive.org/web/20031002123938/http://www.xfce.org/en/press_release_en.html) xfce goes all lowercase (https://web.archive.org/web/20040607035013/http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=news&lang=en) 2007 Interview (https://web.archive.org/web/20070116201506/http://linuxgazette.net/issue43/jacobowitz.xfce.html) 2009 Linux Journal Interview (https://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/xfce-third-man) 2009 Slashgear Interview (https://www.slashgear.com/xfce-creator-talks-linux-moblin-netbooks-and-open-source-0633329/) 2017 Interview with Sean Davis (https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/interview-xfce.html) Xfce 4.4 - 4.18 (https://xfce.org/about/news) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Housekeeping Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Gnome Desktop Environment (https://www.gnome.org/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * Buntober? * We Keep the IPs safe * Cryptic greetings * Some feedback * and we get double focused We do video, too! https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q 407 Audio Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:48 Ubuntu Attacks! 17:20 Google Protection? 31:36 Encrypted Client Hello 46:33 Reverb 1:17:15 Gentoo Focus 1:26:42 Stinger We're both on Ubuntu 23.10.... WHAT?! Ubuntu Desktop (https://ubuntu.com/desktop) Ubuntu Flavors (https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavours) 23.10 Release Announcement (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-23-10-mantic-minotaur-released/39495) Leo is all aboard on the Wayland hotness on the main Ubuntu desktop and Dan is trying out Xubuntu to pair with our Xfce journey. Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Google is protecting our IPs Google Chrome's IP Protection (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/google-chromes-new-ip-protection-will-hide-users-ip-addresses/) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Cryptic Greetings Encrypted Client Hello (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/encrypted-hello/) HTTPS - RFC 2818 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2818) Server Name Indication (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3546) Firefox 119 release notes (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/119.0/releasenotes/) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Reverb Focus Stewie on the Gentoo Checkin in episode 405 A decent overview about Swap Space (https://phoenixnap.com/kb/swap-space) Dominic on Telegram Why does everything look like Windows? Windows, Icons, Menus and Panels aka WIMP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIMP_(computing)) is popular and familiar. Nate on Telegram Nate is running Plasma (https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/) in a Wayland session (https://wayland.freedesktop.org/) on openSUSE Tumbleweed (https://get.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/) on his Framework Laptop (https://frame.work/) with success. John A. on Lemmy John recommends keeping our Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) instance limited to Patrons (https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace). Community Focus - Craft Computing Craft Computing YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CraftComputing) Craft Computing Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/CraftComputing) Craft Computing on X (https://twitter.com/CraftComputing) Craft Computing subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/CraftComputing/) Gentoo Focus Last time on LUS Streaming Live (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1) FYI we do these live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode is released. Next Time We plan to explore and provide the history of XFCE (https://xfce.org). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * We do a little upgrade * Firefox fixes a tooltip * The History of W, V, X and CDE * How it went * And a new old desktop to explore 0:00 Cold Open 1:42 Lemmy's Upgraded! 10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug 15:50 Install Firefox Correctly 22:22 CDE History: Intro 24:04 CDE History: X 27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK 29:25 CDE History: COSE 31:28 CDE History: CDE & Others 34:24 CDE History: The Opening 36:14 CDE History: The Releases 43:02 How'd CDE Go? 1:16:00 Next Time 1:21:29 Stinger Watch the video! (https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q) https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q Banter The LUS Lemmy instance (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) got an update (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/releases/tag/1.2.0). The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be prepared for (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/blob/main/README.md#upgrading). One of the issues Dan had is likely fixed now. (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/commit/300a261b2a346dd6489f5eb43d6af632633f4059) The Bug (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/22-year-old-firefox-tooltip-bug-fixed-in-a-few-lines-offering-hope-to-us-all/) that's old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time! Dan installed Firefox (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w_install-firefox-from-mozilla-builds) from the .tar.gz download. Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the /opt directory. Announcements This program was made possible by: * The letters W, V, X, C, D and E * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of The Common Desktop Environment (CDE) (https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/) The Andrew Project (https://web.archive.org/web/20120717074939/http://www.cmu.edu/corporate/news/2007/features/andrew/what_is_andrew.shtml) W was a windowing system that was originally written for the V operating system (https://web.archive.org/web/20040522163027/http://eia.udg.es/~teo/sd/documents/articles/p314-cheriton.pdf). In 1984, Robert Scheifler wrote (https://www.talisman.org/x-debut.shtml). X is our “reaction” to W (https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/22949.24053) Ultrix Window Manager (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrix_Window_Manager), or uwm Tom's Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm), or twm Open Look Specification (https://archive.org/details/openlookgraphica00sunm) The OSF narrows the search for a User Interface (https://books.google.com/books?id=szsEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=open%20look&f=false). HP (https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Company-Publications/HP-Journal/90s/HPJ-1990-06.pdf) and Microsoft's CXI and DEC's XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager. Sun went on to build OpenWindows (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWindows), which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace SunView (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunView). COSE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Open_Software_Environment) In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, merged (https://groups.google.com/g/comp.unix.osf.misc/c/Q2uTrTvB8bY/m/8SMI8V-JvE4J), and in 96, merged again (https://www.tech-insider.org/unix/research/1996/0214.html) with X/Open into The Open Group. Motif and CDE became one (https://groups.google.com/g/cu.motif-talk/c/xMQ-2cBi9bU/m/_VTikcvANZkJ) KDE enters the scene (https://groups.google.com/g/de.comp.os.linux.misc/c/SDbiV3Iat_s/m/zv_D_2ctS8sJ). May of 2000 when Motif was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20131003125200/https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=comp.windows.x.announce/K2LrU6QusnA/5fRzz-NBIrAJ) as OpenMotif. LessTif, because Less is Mo, published an initial statement (https://web.archive.org/web/20000619030034/http://www.lesstif.org/future.html) August 6th, 2012, CDE was relicensed (https://web.archive.org/web/20121124230739/http://devio.us/~kpedersen/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1293) under the LGPL and was available on SourceForge, where it still lives today. After opening it up, 2.2.1 was released on March 1st, 2014 (https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/32043063/). The final release, at least as of this recording, 2.5.1 (https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/mailman/message/37715846/), dropped in October of 2022. More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Xfce Desktop Environment (https://xfce.org/) Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * You are so far aWAY from me * We are watching out for the browsers * A little reverb focus * Community and GenTOO Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:40 The Wayland Soapbox 20:33 Browser Watch 46:27 Reverb Focus 1:12:02 Community Focus 1:14:46 Gentoo Focus 1:29:30 Next Time: CDE History! 1:31:50 Stinger Watch the Video! (https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k) https://youtu.be/ZIL1ssfGx9k Social Soapbox - Wayland Nate Graham's blog post - So let's talk about this Wayland thing (https://pointieststick.com/2023/09/17/so-lets-talk-about-this-wayland-thing/) The Wayland Protocol (https://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/) Wayland from the Arch Wiki (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wayland) Wayland from the Gentoo Wiki (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland) Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Browser Watch Vivaldi’s Open Letter — Microsoft DMA Compliance (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldis-open-letter-microsoft-dma-compliance/) Deciding for ourselves: 98% of people want a browser choice screen, Mozilla study finds (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/browser-choice-screen-study/) It's time to ditch Chrome and fall in love with Firefox (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/118.0/releasenotes/) again. More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Reverb Focus Stewie - Why GRUB? Gentoo Wiki - GRUB (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB) GRUB2 Gentoo Quick Start (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start) Dai - Telemetry Fedora considers adding telemetry (https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/) Fedora Wiki on the proposal (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry) Endless OS's optional telemetry (https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/) Ganome - Gentoo Switching to the Gnome Profile (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage)) doesn't install Gnome (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/Guide#Installation) but it is an important step. emerge --ask gnome-base/gnome is what installs the desktop. Rene Wi-Fi Sheep (https://wifisheep.co.uk/) RISC OS Developments Ltd (https://www.riscosdev.com/) RISC OS Open (https://www.riscosopen.org/content/) RISC OS Info (https://www.riscos.info/index.php/RISC_OS) RISC OS at Distrowatch (https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=risc) Plan9 Foundation (https://p9f.org/) leepsvideo YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@leepspvideo) EasyOS (https://easyos.org/) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Community Focus - Jorge Castro Jorge Castro (https://www.youtube.com/@JorgeCastro) Universal Blue (https://universal-blue.org/) Jorge at GitHub (https://github.com/castrojo) Gentoo Focus Last time on LUS Streaming Live (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1) FYI we do these live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode is released. Gentoo MAKEOPTS jobs (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MAKEOPTS) Next Time We plan to explore and provide the history of CDE or Common Desktop Environment (https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode * The prying eyes wanna know 👀 * The History of Silverblue * What's immutable anyway? * and how we layered a few packages 0:00 Cold Open 1:44 Telemetry Trouble 27:45 Silverblue 2012 30:49 Silverblue 2013-2014 33:55 Silverblue 2015-2017 34:50 Silverblue 2018 38:25 Silverblue 2019-2021 39:56 Silverblue 2022-2023 41:47 An Immutability Primer? 1:01:39 How'd Silverblue Go? 1:28:42 Next Time: Topics & CDE 1:33:04 Stinger The video version! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HWgR24VXU Banter Fedora considers adding telemetry (https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/10/fedora_privacy_telemetry/) Fedora Wiki on the proposal (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry) Endless OS's optional telemetry (https://blogs.gnome.org/wjjt/2023/07/05/endless-oss-privacy-preserving-metrics-system/) Discussion thread (https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f40-change-request-privacy-preserving-telemetry-for-fedora-workstation-system-wide/85320/774) Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Fedora Silverblue Multiple Bootable Roots (https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/OSTree/NixOSComparison) From GUADEC 2012 - OSTree (https://lwn.net/Articles/511877/#walters) Gnome Continuous (https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeContinuous) Walters described (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0ZEHPXJ9Q) OSTree as "a magic formula." March 20, 2013 - Docker is born (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)) CoreOS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_Linux) sees its first public release in October of 2013. Red Hat official inclusion (https://web.archive.org/web/20131128171128/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/11/26/rhel6-5-ga/) of Docker with RHEL 6.5 April 2014 - Project Atomic (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/announcing-project-atomic/) The actual distro building was left (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/05/the-difference-between-project-atomic-and-atomic-hosts/) to the actual distro projects. Instructions to build on top of Fedora 20 (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/04/build-your-own-atomic-host-on-fedora-20/) CENTOS and RHEL partner (https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html) which began the journey to Atomic Host (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/06/centos-atomic-host-sig-propposed/). A Fedora Atomic Host installable ISO becomes available (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/07/new-fedora-atomic-installable-iso/) based on Rawhide. August 2014 - CentOS Atomic Host alpha builds were available (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/08/centos-7-alpha-builds-for-atomic/). December 2014 - Fedora 21 releases with Atomic Host images (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2014/12/fedora-21-goes-gold-with-atomic-images/). March 2015 - Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host released (https://web.archive.org/web/20150312173742/http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/03/05/announcement-rhel-atomic-host-ga/). July 2015 - Package layering (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2016/07/hacking-and-extending-atomic-host/) was introduced. Atomic Hosts came and went, including (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Two_Week_Atomic) bi-weekly releases (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2015/12/fedora-atomic-host-two-week-release-ready/) 2016 - XDG-App was renamed Flatpak (https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/flatpak/2016-May/000204.html). 2018 - CoreOS Docker platform was acquired by Red Hat (https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-acquire-coreos-expanding-its-kubernetes-and-containers-leadership) in January. It became, Red Hat CoreOS (https://projectatomic.io/blog/2018/05/welcome-redhat-coreos/). The Fedora flavor would live on as... Team Silverblue (https://web.archive.org/web/20180505090226/https://www.teamsilverblue.org/). The domain name and handles around the web were available (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/_attachments/team-silverblue-origins.pdf) It was almost called Silverleaf (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/faq/) October 30, 2018 - Fedora 29 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20190407211446/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/) with a Silverblue variant. Matthew Miller on Fedora Magazine noted (https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-29/). The Fedora Council made the decision (https://web.archive.org/web/20191121020222/https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedoras-strategic-direction-an-update-from-the-council/796) to tighten things up regarding naming. 2019 - Fedora 30 and the Silverblue variant were released (https://web.archive.org/web/20201201201318/https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/) 2021 - Silverblue 35 in November, Fedora Kinoite (https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/) appears. 2023 - Silverblue 38 in April, Fedora Sericea (https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/) appears. Further Reading Fedora Silverblue Technical information (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/) rpm-ostree documentation (https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/) Vanilla OS documentation (https://documentation.vanillaos.org/) ABRoot (https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot) blendOS documentation (https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro) libostree (https://ostreedev.github.io/ostree/) Sodalite (https://github.com/sodaliterocks/) Bazzite (https://bazzite.gg/) Universal Blue (https://universal-blue.org/) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro isn't a distro, what? We plan to explore and provide the history of CDE or Common Desktop Environment (https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode * Immutability is confusing * Going the wrong WEI (or W-E-I) * Reverb Focus * Hardware Focus * And Gentoo Focus 0:00 Cold Open 1:34 Immutability Is Confusing 21:25 Going the Wrong WEI 40:55 Reverb Focus 45:56 Community Focus 51:09 Gentoo Focus 1:29:25 Next Time 1:31:02 Stinger The video version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_89_OFjgdk) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q89OFjgdk Banter Fedora Silverblue Technical information (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/technical-information/) rpm-ostree documentation (https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/) Vanilla OS documentation (https://documentation.vanillaos.org/) ABRoot (https://github.com/Vanilla-OS/ABRoot) blendOS documentation (https://docs.blendos.co/docs/intro) Announcements This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patreons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Web Environment Integrity 2015 - AMP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages) 2019 - Google proposed Web Bundles (https://developer.chrome.com/docs/web-platform/web-bundles/) 2021 - Google weakened the power of extensions (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening) May 2022 - First party sets were introduced through the W3C by Google but in June 2022, the W3C decided to drop the idea (https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacycg/2022Jun/0003.html). April 24, 2023 - The original Google WEI proposal post (https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/blob/main/explainer.md) July 24, 2023 - Mozilla's rebuke (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#issuecomment-1648820747) July 25, 2023 - Vivaldi's rebuke (https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environment-integrity-spec/) August 1, 2023 - Brave's rebuke (https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/9-web-environment-integrity/) August 8, 2023 - The EFF rebuke (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/your-computer-should-say-what-you-tell-it-say-1) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Reverb Focus, all about the feedback. Lily https://blanc.pages.dev/debian-codenames-toy-story-characters/ Hackerdefo I have created a few useful (hopefully) gists related to Debian sources.list files and Debian download links. Here are links to those gists, https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/98701fbf746c8216e77a65002f7a0dab https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/5e1f51fa93ff37871b9ff738b05ba30f https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/1599cb664cc3c2f125a45248d9c6c71d https://gist.github.com/hakerdefo/124a37ca927018f8b52a72e316d160fa My Blog -> https://hakerdefo.github.io My Projects -> https://github.com/hakerdefo Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Community Focus - Hardware Haven (https://www.youtube.com/@HardwareHaven) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@HardwareHaven) Discord (https://discord.gg/25a6qVdSMh) Gentoo Focus use https://packages.gentoo.org read the news - eselect news read new pay attention to profile selection (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage)) Next Time The history of the Fedora Immutable Desktops so Fedora Silverblue (https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/) or Fedora Kinoite (https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/) or Fedora Sericea (https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode * An NVMe for me * The Shure Next To You * Of course, the History of Debian * Our Thoughts of it over the monthSSSS 0:00 Cold Open 1:04 A Few Good Deals 16:14 The History of Debian | The Beginning 18:00 The History of Debian | 1993 - 1994 22:23 The History of Debian | 1995 - 1998 26:15 The History of Debian | 1999 & Y2k 31:11 The History of Debian | 2001 - 2009 36:40 The History of Debian | 2010 - 2020 42:39 The History of Debian | 2021 - 2027 45:33 A Month of Debian 12 Thoughts 1:13:24 - Next Time | Fedora Silverblue & Topics 1:18:03 Stinger The video version on Youtube (https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk) https://youtu.be/FmPXjMo_Dbk Banter Dan's new 💾 NVMe (https://www.crucial.com/ssd/p3-plus/CT2000P3PSSD8) Dan's new 🎤 Shure audio interface (https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/accessories/x2u-xlr-usb-interface?variant=X2U) Announcements 📺️ Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace). 📽️ You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. 😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace The History of Debian Before Debian there was Softlanding Linux (https://web.archive.org/web/20211215084534/https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux/c/Q4fxCi2g0kc/m/Z6vfd2aLSQwJ). August 16, 1993, Ian Murdock's announcement that started it all (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Debian-announcement-1993.txt#CA-c114de97e513912ade3e21cedd1d833957c8edf6_13). January 1994, Ian releases the Debian Manifesto (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/manifesto). April 1, 1994, Ian was struggling to keep up with it all and needed a break (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1994/msg00005.html). March 1996, Ian steps down as Debian Project Leader (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1996/msg00003.html). Leaving Bruce Perens to take up the job. The FSF pulls sponsorship (https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.misc/c/A30TG4KRx4Y/m/WKi_Yx0iuTAJ) but later the FSF "resumed cordial relations" (https://www.debian.org/intro/cooperation). June 17, 1996, Debian 1.1 is released (https://web.archive.org/web/19970616164301/http://www.debian.org/1.1/release.html) with the first ever codename based on Toy Story characters. It was named Buzz (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuzz), after Buzz Lightyear. A list of all the Debian releases (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html). February 1, 1997, A board of directors had been elected (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00000.html) for Software in the Public Interest. February 20, 1997, Debian shows its intent to ratify a constitution (https://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/1997/msg00005.html). July 1, 1997, Debian is really launched into space (https://www.debian.org/News/1997/19970626a) this time to monitor plant growth in microgravity, sending video and other data (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2186) back home. December 2, 1998, Debian ratifies a Constitution (https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution.1.0). At the beginning of 1999, Wichert Akkerman was elected Debian Project Leader and started with giving Debian a permanent identity. Logo on debian.org as of April 14, 1997 (https://web.archive.org/web/19970414140629im_/http://www.debian.org/Pics/debian.jpg) January 24, 1999, the logo license for Captain Blue-Eye, expired again (https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/4/mail#mail2). February 4, 1999, a Logo contest announcement (https://www.debian.org/News/1999/19990204)! May 3, 1999, the submissions were in. (https://www.debian.org/vote/1999/vote_0004) Captain Blue-Eye was thought to be too Linux-specific (https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/1999/14/mail#mail1). June 8, 1999, The iconic swirl that we see today won the vote (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00005.html). July 6, 1999, dpkg version 2, which was hinted (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/05/msg01405.html) at by Ben Collins back in May, is now officially a thing and the specifications are out there boasting a more modular design (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/1999/07/msg00012.html). Debian weathered the Y2k storm with no major problems (https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2000/1/). In October 2001, LAN Comp Systems begin mastering Debian 3.0 on DVD (https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/25/2250255/debian-on-dvd) ahead of the official release. Debian 3.0 was delayed because of broken boot floppies (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2001/04/msg00004.html). 2002, the first net installation images were available (https://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/). 2007, through a disagreement with Mozilla on backporting security fixes, would be replaced (https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox#Iceweasel) by the free-software version, Iceweasel. 2013, the trailing 0 on the major release is dropped (https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg01020.html). Minor releases will continue adding the point, as in .1, .2, etc. Also in 2013, multi-arch support (https://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110726b) is added. 2020, Jonathan Carter (https://jonathancarter.org/) was elected Debian Project Leader and has been reaffirmed three more times, and is currently serving as Leader. June 10, 2023, Debian 12 is released (https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/), codenamed Bookworm. More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Debian Quick links Main Web Site (https://www.debian.org) Blog (https://bits.debian.org) User Forums (https://forums.debian.net) Bug Tracking System (https://www.debian.org/Bugs/) Debian at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian) Debian History page (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html) Debian releases (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/releases.en.html) The Debian Handbook - The Debian Project (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/the-debian-project.en.html) List of Debian Project Leaders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Debian_project_leaders) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and some feedback. Our next distro is the Fedora Immutable Desktops so Fedora Silverblue (https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/) or Fedora Kinoite (https://fedoraproject.org/kinoite/) or Fedora Sericea (https://fedoraproject.org/sericea/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas sleepyeyesvince Nick

Coming up in this episode * The Catchup Episode (We've missed so much!) * The Red Hat Recap * Browser Watch...ing! * Some feedback, and a focus The Video Podcast (https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8) https://youtu.be/ZKm9vgJzAO8 401 Audio Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 2:16 The Gentoo Checkin 11:33 We Have a Lemmy! 19:24 Red Hat Recap 46:09 Browser Watch 1:05:21 Feedback 1:23:05 Community Focus: Linux Matters 1:27:03 App Focus: Jerboa & Memmy 1:34:48 Next Time: Debian 1:37:09 Stinger Banter Gentoo check in - Use the Handbook! (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Main_Page) The wiki (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page) is just great in general. Lemmy (https://join-lemmy.org/) The Linux User Space Lemmy instance (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/) feddit's community browser (https://browse.feddit.de/) Another Lemmy explorer (https://lemmyverse.net/communities) Announcements 📺️ Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace). 📽️ You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. 😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace RH takes their source and goes home 2019 July - IBM completed its acquisition of Red Hat. Jim Whitehurst said at the time (https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ibm-closes-landmark-acquisition-red-hat-34-billion-defines-open-hybrid-cloud-future). 2020 December - CentOS Stream announced as the successor (https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux) to CentOS Linux. an FAQ (https://centos.org/distro-faq/) linked in the CentOS announcement about Stream (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream) 2021 January - Red Hat announces more free RHEL (https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel). February - Brian Exelbierd noted on the Red Hat Developer site (https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code). March - Alma Linux 8.3 was released (https://almalinux.org/blog/almalinux-os-stable-release-is-live/) June - Rocky Linux followed with their 8.4 release (https://rockylinux.org/news/rocky-linux-8-4-ga-release/) 2022 Red Hat was posting 15% revenue increases (https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article271678707.html) every quarter of the year. IBM, despite its projected 3900 person layoff (https://www.ibm.com/investor/att/pdf/IBM-4Q22-Earnings-Prepared-Remarks.pdf) was growing at similar rates. 2023 April - Red Hat announement (https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/message-red-hat-associates-today) Ben Cotton and others were laid off (https://funnelfiasco.com/blog/2023/05/12/inaction-bcotton/). June - Red Hat announce that CentOS sources will no longer be on github (https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream) Brian Exelbierd's post from February 2021 changed (https://web.archive.org/web/20230621142027/https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/02/03/a-guide-for-using-centos-project-code). Mike McGrath writes a clarification post (https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes) Rocky Linux announces that they'll possibly be using the Universal Base Images (https://rockylinux.org/news/keeping-open-source-open/) July - Alma Linux no longer aims (https://almalinux.org/blog/future-of-almalinux/) for bug-for-bug compatibility. SUSE and Oracle Oracle's press release (https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/blog/keep-linux-open-and-free-2023-07-10/) Oracle Linux (https://www.oracle.com/linux/) SUSE's statement (https://www.suse.com/c/navigating-changes-in-the-open-source-landscape/) SUSE Liberty Linux (https://www.suse.com/products/suse-liberty-linux/) SUSE Manager (https://www.suse.com/products/suse-manager/) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Browser Watch Firefox 115 (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.0/releasenotes/) brings hardware video decoding for Intel GPUs and more. Vivaldi 6.1 they found a way (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-6-1/) to use Bing Chat. Edge blocks notification spam (https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2023/07/06/fighting-notification-spam-microsoft-edge/), now! Opera is relaunching as Opera One (https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/). Feedback Sebastian SerenityOS (https://serenityos.org/) Ladybird Browser (https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform-browser-project/) Andreas Kling on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling) Rich Greenbone Open Source Vulnerability Management (https://github.com/greenbone) Leo recommends The Linux Commandline by Willian Shotts (http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php/) Dan recommends Learn Linux TV (https://www.learnlinux.tv/) If there is something specific you want to know more about let us know. Scout HP Elite Mini 800 PCs (https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/business-solutions/elitedesk-800-mini) Lenovo M75q Mini PCs (https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkCentre/ThinkCentre_M75q_Gen_2) Dell OptiPlex Micro PCs (https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/sr/desktops/optiplex-desktops/micro?appliedRefinements=41015) The a11y project (https://www.a11yproject.com/) Orca is part of Gnome (https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca) Other Gnome accessibility tools (https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html) KDE accessibility tools (https://userbase.kde.org/Applications/Accessibility) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Linux Matters Podcast (https://linuxmatters.sh/) Website (https://linuxmatters.sh/) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/latenightlinux) RSS feed (https://linuxmatters.sh/episode/index.xml) App Focus Jerboa and Memmy Jerboa in the Google Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jerboa) Jerboa in FDroid (https://f-droid.org/packages/com.jerboa) Jerboa GitHub repo (https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa) Memmy in the Apple store (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/memmy-for-lemmy/id6450204299) Memmy GitHub repo (https://github.com/Memmy-App/memmy) Next Time The history of Debian (https://www.debian.org/), a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show* Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Johnny Co-Producer Tim Johnny Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode 1. The History of ~~Raspbian~~ Raspberry Pi OS 2. What we've been doing with Pi's 3. And we run something over the break Watch the video for this episode on Youtube (https://youtu.be/nLPuojqJbK4) https://youtu.be/nLPuojqJbK4 0:00 Cold Open 1:36 SBC, One, Two, Three 17:24 Raspberry Pi History: The Early Days 19:55 2006 - 2012 22:22 2012 - 2014 26:26 2014 - 2017 33:28 2017 - 2020 37:05 2020 - 2023 43:12 Hot Pis and Hot Takes 1:07:41 Next Season: A Twofer 1:16:36 Stinger Banter ZimaBoard (https://www.zimaboard.com) NanoPi R4S (https://wiki.friendlyelec.com/wiki/index.php/NanoPi_R4S) NanoPi R2S (https://wiki.friendlyelec.com/wiki/index.php/NanoPi_R2S) IPFire (https://www.ipfire.org) OPNsense (https://opnsense.org) OpenWrt (https://openwrt.org) Announcements 📺️ Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace). 📽️ You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. 😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace Raspberry Pi OS the History BBC Micro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro) ZX Spectrum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum) The very first Raspberry Pi prototypes (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-2006-edition/) Early alpha boards (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/the-alpha-boards-are-here/) Paul Beech's logo (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/logo-competition-we-have-a-winner/) Early hacking resulted in a functional Debian Squeeze installation (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/first-root-filesystem-available-for-download/) The Raspberry Pi is official (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/the-raspberry-pi-launch/) Arch Linux ARM supporting the Raspberry Pi is out in the wild (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/arch-linux-arm-available-for-download/) Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-fedora-remix-our-recommended-distro-is-ready-for-download/) The first Raspbian SD Image was made available for testing (http://www.zen103156.zen.co.uk/rpitime.pdf) Raspberry Pi's began hitting doorsteps (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/deliveries-have-started/) Quake III runs on Raspberry Pi (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/fancy-a-quake-iii-deathmatch/) Debian Wheezy beta build hits the public net (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/debian-wheezy-public-beta/) Raspbian was officially announced (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspbian-based-sd-card-image-released/) Turbo Mode is added (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-turbo-mode-up-to-50-more-performance-for-free/) The model B got upgraded (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/model-b-now-ships-with-512mb-of-ram/) The Model A is finally available (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/model-a-now-for-sale-in-europe-buy-one-today/) Minecraft: Pi Edition is released (https://web.archive.org/web/20130214025539/http://mojang.com/2013/02/minecraft-pi-edition-is-available-for-download/) The cameras and updates in Raspbian are released (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/camera-board-available-for-sale/) Wayland preview is announced (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/wayland-preview/) NOOBS (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-noobs/) Pi NoIR camera is now available (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/pi-noir-infrared-camera-now-available/) No Foolin'. A website revamp (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/welcome-to-our-new-website/) Raspberry Pi compute module is announced (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-compute-module-new-product/) Compute module development kits were available (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/compute-module-development-kits-now-available/) in June. Raspberry Pi B+ is launched (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-model-b-plus/) Hardware Attached on Top (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-hats/) Model A+ is announced (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/) The Raspberry Pi 2 launched (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/) The Raspberry Pi becomes the best selling British computer (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/raspberry-pi-becomes-best-selling-british-computer) Raspbian rebases on Jessie (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspbian-jessie-is-here/) Raspberry Pi Zero lands (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-zero/) Raspberry Pi 3 releases (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-3-on-sale/) About 5% of website traffic was served up (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/serving-raspberry-pi-3-launch-raspberry-pi-3/) by a Pi 3 on launch day. A camera connector for the Pi zero (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/zero-grows-camera-connector/) Raspbian is now (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/docker-comes-to-raspberry-pi/) a fully supported platform for Docker! SUSE released (https://www.suse.com/communities/blog/suse-linux-enterprise-server-raspberry-pi/) a 64-bit SUSE Linux Enterprise Server for the Raspberry Pi. PIXEL is now available (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/pixel-pc-mac/) for any machine that can run Debian Jessie! Compute Module 3 is released (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/compute-module-3-launch/) Pi Zero W is added to the lineup (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-zero-w-joins-family/) Raspbian rebases on Stretch (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspbian-stretch/) The release for PCs and Macs rebases too (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/stretch-pcs-macs-raspbian-update/) The setup wizard runs automatically on first start. (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspbian-update-june-2018/) Pi 3 Model A+ hits shelves (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-product-raspberry-pi-3-model-a/) Raspberry Pi 4 goes on sale (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-from-35/) With the Pi 4 an overhauled OS gets shipped (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/buster-the-new-version-of-raspbian/) Feb 2020 a new Raspbian release (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/a-new-raspbian-update/) 12.3 MP high quality camera hits the streets (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-product-raspberry-pi-high-quality-camera-on-sale-now-at-50/) 8GB version of the Raspberry Pi 4 is on sale (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/8gb-raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-at-75/) Raspbian ==> Raspberry Pi OS (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-os-no-longer-raspbian) Compute Module 4 lands (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-compute-module-4/) Raspberry Pi 400. A Pi 4 built into a keyboard (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-400-the-70-desktop-pc/) Dec 2020 Raspberry Pi OS release (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-raspberry-pi-os-release-december-2020/) Raspberry Pi Pico (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-silicon-pico-now-on-sale/) Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W is now on sale (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-raspberry-pi-zero-2-w-2/) The November 2021 release (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-os-debian-bullseye/) Raspberry Pi OS in 64-bit finally hits mirrors (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-os-64-bit/) April 2021 release of RasPiOS (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-bullseye-update-april-2022/) Raspberry Pi Pico W at 6 dollars debuts (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-w-your-6-iot-platform/) September 2022 update (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/the-latest-update-to-raspberry-pi-os/) Raspberry Pi Camera Module 3 is released (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-autofocus-camera-modules/) Raspberry Pi OS links Main software web site (https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/) The Forum (https://forums.raspberrypi.com) Documentation (https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/) Daily News (https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/) Foundation (https://www.raspberrypi.org) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time - Next Season We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distros are Debian (https://www.debian.org) and Gentoo (https://www.gentoo.org). We will cover the history of Debian in Season 4 Episode 2 and we will use Gentoo for the entire season, checking on it periodically throughout. Come back in some weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! 🌟Producer🌟 Bruno John Dave Johnny ⭐Co-Producer⭐ Tim 🌠Super User🌠 Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Paul sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode 1. Leo shows his moxy 2. Ubuntu falls flat 3. Watch the browsers 4. A Look back on our season 5. and Leo moves his files See this episode on Youtube (https://youtu.be/Vbofi3pndm4) https://youtu.be/Vbofi3pndm4 319 Audio Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 2:03 Proxy Moxie 16:42 Ansible In Your Pantsible 22:56 Ubuntu Falls Flat 41:57 Browser Watch! 1:03:55 Feedback 1:13:49 Season 3 Recap 1:26:17 Community Focus: Geerling Guy 1:28:13 App Focus: TermSCP & Filezilla 1:37:25 Next Time: Raspberry Pi OS 1:39:25 Stinger Banter Proxmox (https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve) Ansible (https://www.ansible.com) Announcements Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace). You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace Flattening out Ubuntu Ubuntu and the official flavors decide not to include Flatpak by default (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-flavor-packaging-defaults/34061?u=d0od) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Browser Watch Total Cookie Protection (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/firefox-androids-new-privacy-feature-total-cookie-protection-stops-companies-from-keeping-tabs-on-your-moves/) Firefox Extension (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/email-protection-just-got-easier-in-firefox/) Firefox will get support for animated AV1 images and in a surprise move (https://9to5linux.com/firefox-113-promises-support-for-animated-av1-images-official-debian-package-and-more) an official debian/ubuntu package in .deb format. Edge is testing (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-is-testing-a-built-in-crypto-wallet-in-microsoft-edge/) a Crypto Wallet. Edge added DALL-E right into the browser (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-edge-can-now-generate-images-with-ai/)! Brave adds a VPN option (https://brave.com/desktop-vpn/). Brave removes (https://brave.com/privacy-updates/24-google-sign-in-permission/) legacy Google sign-in Cookies. Chrome/Chromium will unload background tabs (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/chrome-110-will-automatically-discard-background-tabs-heres-how-to-stop-it/) to save memory. Falkon is finally getting hardware acceleration (https://www.omglinux.com/falkon-browser-hardware-acceleration/)! Gnome Web has a few tricks coming (https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/11pav5t/comment/jbww3sb/) in version 44, as well. Feedback Senor Araton On compiling the Gentoo Kernel Installed a distribution-binary-kernel to get a running system. Leo wants to compile all the things. John A. On Linux Books ownCloud (https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/running-linux-5th/0596007604/) Bradly on the Ubuntu ShipIt Program Tried to convert as many as possible. Bonus Bradly Also - Leo, make the switch to Proxmox. Dan is right. R.L. on -O3 Just FYI, the compiler option is -O3 (dash oh three), not -03 (dash zero 3) The O obviously stands for Optimize 😅. Season 3 in review - Pick of the picks Community Focus - Dan - Veronica Explains (https://vkc.sh) Community Focus - Leo - Linux Saloon (https://cubiclenate.com/linuxsaloon/) App Focus - Dan - Crowdsec (https://www.crowdsec.net/) App Focus - Leo - trash-cli (https://github.com/andreafrancia/trash-cli) Distro - Dan - CentOS Stream (https://centos.org/) Distro - Leo - EndlessOS (https://endlessos.com/) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Community Focus - Geerling Guy Geerling Guy (https://www.jeffgeerling.com) Jeff's YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/c/JeffGeerling) Jeff's GitHub (https://github.com/geerlingguy) App Focus Filezilla and termscp Filezilla (https://filezilla-project.org/) termscp (https://termscp.veeso.dev/) Next Time The history of Raspberry Pi OS (https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/), a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show* Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Paul sleepyeyesvince

We wanted to let you know we postponed the recording of episode 19 due to a family emergency. We’re thinking April 10th for the new release date, but can’t say that with absolute certainty. If anything changes, we’ll update you again. In the mean time, we’ll publish a bit of the Shorts backlog and poke around the community a bit. So, hang tight! ❤️🙏

Coming up in this episode 1. The Never Ending History 2. A Cassidy James Experience 3. And we go berry picking Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:30 Vivaldi 5.7... Again 3:20 Itty Bitty Server Things 18:44 EndlessOS History, 2010-2012 21:51 2013-2015 25:36 2016-2018 29:25 2019-2021 32:57 2022-2023 36:08 (A Short) How'd It Go? 42:33 A Cassidy James Experience 1:15:31 Next Time: Topics and Feedback 1:19:53 Stinger See this episode on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AvLAusUIs Banter Vivaldi 5.7 (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/) fixes Leo's scrolling woes. (https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27) Dan installs Proxmox VE (https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve) on a couple of HP mini pcs. (https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04816235) Announcements 📺️ Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace). 📽️ You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. 😍 If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace EndlessOS the History Endless Mobile Inc.'s was founded (https://web.archive.org/web/20180519033528/https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=241000702). Computers started shipping in (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/posts/1276655) late June 2015. The Endless Mini (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/). August 2016 Endless 3.0 was released as was the very First Linux distro to adopt Flatpak (https://flatpak.org/about) for apps and have it configured for use out of the box. October 2016 Netflix and Flash were broken (https://community.endlessos.com/t/attention-new-users-flash-and-netflix-temporarily-broken/327). Jan 4, 2017 Endless Mission One and Mini (https://venturebeat.com/business/endless-expands-into-the-u-s-with-launch-of-129-mission-mini-and-249-mission-one-computers/) released (https://www.cnet.com/pictures/mission-mini/null/). Mission Mini Review (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mini-review/) Mission One Review (https://www.cnet.com/reviews/endless-mission-one-review/) March 2017 3.1.3 Released (https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-version-3-1-3/1835) and now ISOs are now available (https://community.endlessos.com/t/iso-images-available-for-endless-os/1840). November 1 2018, 3.5 Released, but was then quickly withdrawn (https://community.endlessos.com/t/release-endless-os-3-5-1/8252). 3.5.1 was quickly delivered on November 16th addressing the issue. April 1, 2020 Endless drops its for-profit status and becomes a not-for-profit (https://www.endlessos.org/post/launching-endless-os-foundation). November 2020 Hack and friends go fully open source (https://www.hack-computer.com/post/update-hack-is-now-fully-open-source)! June 2021 The Endless Laptop (https://www.endlessos.org/endless-laptop). January 2023 5.0 Released (https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/5). 4.0.14 (https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os/release-notes/4-0-14) delivers the ability to upgrade to 5.0 which was previously not possible. March 7, 2023 Endless announces backing for Flathub (https://discourse.flathub.org/t/flathub-in-2023/3808) Huge thanks to Cassidy James Blaede for taking the time to join us! Cassidy's web page is here (https://cassidyjames.com) Endless OS links Main web site (https://endlessos.com/home/) The Forum (https://community.endlessos.com/) The Wiki (https://support.endlessos.org/en/endless-os) Endless OS Foundation (https://www.endlessos.org/) The Early History (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers/description) The Release History (https://community.endlessos.com/t/what-about-a-release-history/5277/3) The Early PC's (https://web.archive.org/web/20170223110116/https://endlessos.com/our-computers/) All Old Github Tagged versions ~2.0.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20201117023525/https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop/tags?after=Release_2.0.1-rc1_debian) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is Raspberry Pi OS (https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/) Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Paul sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode 1. Plasma's Kind of Hot Right Now 2. Brush your passwords 3. Browser Watch! 4. A little feedback 5. And a little FOCUS 0:00 Cold Open 1:33 Akademy Awards 3:22 Plasma 5.27 24:33 Your Last Pass... Word 47:05 Browser Watch! 55:36 The Mailbag 1:05:35 Community Focus: Vashinator 1:08:08 App Focus: ClamAV 1:20:24 Next Time: EndlessOS History 1:22:25 Stinger Watch this episode on Youtube (https://youtu.be/L3haDDxBJU0) https://youtu.be/L3haDDxBJU0 Banter Akademy videos are online (https://tube.kockatoo.org/c/akademy/videos?s=1) Plasma 5.27 is ❤ (https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.0/) Nick from The Linux Experiment did a video that goes over some highlights (https://youtu.be/onPUaAKoGIM). Jupiter Broadcasting covered it in Linux Action News too. (https://linuxactionnews.com/280) The question of why isn't KDE Plasma the main DE for a main distro comes around every once and a while (https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/x8m0bt/comment/injemm2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Announcements Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace). You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace Password hygiene is all the rage LastPass Blog announcement of the security incident (https://blog.lastpass.com/2022/12/notice-of-recent-security-incident/) We talked a lot about password managers in episode 11 (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/311). Mozilla's pitch (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/privacy-security-tips/your-childs-name-makes-a-horrible-password/). Brian Krebs has this to say (https://krebsonsecurity.com/password-dos-and-donts/). You can check your passwords against Have I Been Pwned (https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords). If you use Bitwarden/Vaultwarden, you can use the reports (https://bitwarden.com/help/reports/) to check exposed, reused, and weak passwords. More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Browser Watch Gnome Web has a new UI (https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2023/02/twig-83/#web) for handling permissions. We pitched Gnome Web a couple of episodes ago (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/315). Version 110, Firefox (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/110.0/releasenotes/) got the addition to import bookmarks, passwords and history from Opera, Opera GX, and Vivaldi. Vivaldi makes improvements to their Window Panel (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-7-on-desktop/). Brave does HTTPS everywhere (https://brave.com/privacy-updates/22-https-by-default/). Microsoft Edge adds Adobe Acrobat (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-edge-will-switch-to-adobe-acrobats-pdf-rendering-engine/). Feedback "ee" "dee", gotcha 😉 Turns out we were the joke instead of making one. Apologies. Anonymous Listener suggests ownCloud ownCloud (https://owncloud.com) We'll check it out and report back. Daniel M. says... Podman (https://podman.io) Daniel's document (https://github.com/TeamLinux01/melzak_site/blob/main/SETUP.md) Frank W. says... Brave is great and cheer from the Great White North, eh! Thanks Frank! Eric M. on Youtube says... Pixar and other animation studios use RHEL for their workstations. In Podman, the pod comes from kubernetes. A pod is a group of containers that are in the same namespace. Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Community Focus - Vashinator Vash's YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@Vashinator7). App Focus ClamAV ClamAV (https://www.clamav.net) Next Time The history of EndlessOS (https://endlessos.com/), a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show* Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Paul sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode 1. CentOS 2. ... 3. ... 4. Just CentOS 316 Audio Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:48 With a Little Help From Our Friends 9:42 CentOS History, 90's - 1996 11:46 96 - 2000 14:01 2000 - 2003 20:29 The Clone Wars 24:47 2004 - 2014 30:25 2014 - 2022 36:41 Our CentOS Experience 1:11:00 Next Time: Topics! 1:14:31 Stinger Watch this episode on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52MnZVvVumc Banter Leo's font issue (https://mastodon.social/@leochavez/109809074194178438) The bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144433#c6) HUGE Thanks to Carl George for technical help with this episode. Announcements Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace CentOS Linux the History July 1994 The "preview" release for Red Hat Linux is released internally (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Red_Hat_Linux) October 31 codenamed "Halloween" 0.9 is released. May 1995 "Mother's Day" 1.0 is released and introduces some iconic branding. March 1996 "Picasso" 3.0.3 is released. Version numbers might really matter, check out our Slackware episode (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/219) to find out how Patrick Volkerding felt about them. TL;DW (http://www.slackware.com/faq/do_faq.php?faq=general#0) September 2000 Red Hat Linux 7.0 has releases with their renamed gcc version (features.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/12/163218&mode=thread) May 2002 Enter Red Hat Enterprise Linux (https://access.redhat.com/articles/3078) with version 2.1. Sometime within 2002, Warren Togami starts the Fedora Linux Project (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Wtogami?rd=WarrenTogami). It aimed to bring together (https://web.archive.org/web/20031008123733/http://www.fedora.us/index-main.html) additional packages for Red Hat Linux. It wasn't a distribution on its own (https://web.archive.org/web/20030219051938/http://www.fedora.us/fedora.html). It was Extras for the existing Red Hat Linuxes. March 2003 Red Hat Linux 9.0, named Shrike, is released. July 2003 Severn, the beta for what would be Red Hat Linux 10, changes to a more open and community focused development process (https://lwn.net/Articles/40201/). September 2003, Red Hat Linux and the Fedora Linux Project, [merge into The Fedora Project].(https://web.archive.org/web/20031001204515/http://www.fedora.us/). Mailing list announcement (https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2003-September/msg00137.html) Transition info (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7169) Also in September, enter cAos (https://web.archive.org/web/20120507000526/http://www.caoslinux.org/about.html). cAos1-base and cAos1-enhanced couldn't really exist without each other (https://web.archive.org/web/20050207043816/https://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=406). November 2003 Red Hat signals that it's getting out of the Boxed Linux business (https://lwn.net/Articles/56947/). What was to be Red Hat Linux 10 instead released as Fedora Core 1 with (https://web.archive.org/web/20031107044428/http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/1/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES.html) Extras. December 2003 the first alpha (https://web.archive.org/web/20040128013252/http://caosity.org:80/) of cAos. Three weeks later, CentOS 3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20040202083913/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=10). Another week later, CentOS 2 beta (https://web.archive.org/web/20040202084601/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=11). Whitebox Linux first release candidate (http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/news.html). David Parsley registered taolinux.org, and in December, started getting the site together (https://web.archive.org/web/20040111131901/http://taolinux.org:80/). Why Tao Linux? (https://web.archive.org/web/20040704030839/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/5) June 2006, David had to switch jobs (https://web.archive.org/web/20061013083339/http://taolinux.org/?q=node/view/8). Scientific Linux (https://scientificlinux.org) Feburary 2004 the final release cAos-1, the proof of concept,made it to mirrors (https://web.archive.org/web/20040402100908/http://caosity.org/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=22). March 2004 CentOS 3.1 is released (https://web.archive.org/web/20040325064219/http://caosity.org:80/). Karanbir Singh, or KB, noted that 3.3 was the first proper release (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTX5yguTxA4&t=352s). February 2005 CentOS receieved a Cease and Desist letter from the lawyers over at Red Hat in regards to using the Red Hat Logos and name on the centos.org website. CentOS's response (https://web.archive.org/web/20050222184509/http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=66). March 2005 CentOS 4 was released two weeks after its upstream RHEL 4. Coverage was picking up (https://web.archive.org/web/20050507081709/www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/5823/1/). Lance Davis announces (https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-March/537696.html) that CentOS is separating itself from the cAos project. May 2005 cAos 2 is announced (https://web.archive.org/web/20040522050643/http://caosity.org:80/), also based on RHEL 3. 2008 A new distribution, also called Caos (https://web.archive.org/web/20081203074352/http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/caos/2008-November/002537.html). July 2009 Lance Davis, one of the Founders and lead of the CentOS 2 release, had been missing for many months (https://www.zdnet.com/article/centos-getting-their-st-together-is-a-top-priority/). From the mailing list (https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-July/079767.html) From the Register (https://www.theregister.com/2009/07/30/centos_open_letter/) October 14 2009 Caos Linux 1.0.25 is released and is the last release of Caos, ever. January of 2014, Red Hat acquires (https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-and-centos-join-forces). July 2014 CentOS 7.0 is released (https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-July/020393.html). 2019 Red Hat leaves Shadowman behind (https://www.redhat.com/en/about/brand/new-brand#). September 2019 Red Hat announces (https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/transforming-development-experience-within-centos) CentOS Stream. Also in in September 2019, CentOS Linux 8 and CentOS Stream are released (https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2019-September/023449.html). January 2021; Red Hat changes the way their dev subscriptions work (https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/20/red_hat_amends_developer_license/). December 2021 CentOS 9 Stream is released (https://blog.centos.org/2021/12/introducing-centos-stream-9/). CentOS links Main Web Page (https://centos.org) About (https://www.centos.org/about/) Blog (https://blog.centos.org/) Wiki (https://wiki.centos.org/) Forums (https://www.centos.org/forums/) Mailing Lists (https://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp/ListInfo) Git Repositories (https://git.centos.org) Bug reporting (https://wiki.centos.org/ReportBugs) IRC (https://wiki.centos.org/irc) Planet (http://planet.centos.org/) List of CentOS releases (http://mirror.centos.org/centos/) Other Links AlmaLinux (https://almalinux.org) Rocky Linux (https://rockylinux.org) Red Hat Linux family tree (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Redhat_family_tree_11-06.png) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Housekeeping Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is Endless OS (https://endlessos.com/home/) Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Johnny Co-Producer Tim Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Paul sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode 1. A little podman 2. Manifest v3 3. Browsers 4. More Browsers? 5. And what do you know? More browsers 0:00 Cold Open 1:30 Giving Podman a Whirl 10:14 What's Wrong with a Few Boxes? 18:08 Browser Watch: Firefox 109 22:47 Browser Watch: Manifest v3 History 31:44 Browser Watch: A Little More Manifest v3 40:03 Browser Watch: The Chromium Scrolls 48:24 Browser Watch: A Fix to the Web 56:06 Feedback: Johnny and LinuxGameCast 58:51 Kid3 Turns 20 1:00:39 QR Codes for All! 1:05:22 Community Focus: ASUS NLC 1:09:41 App Focus: Gnome Web + Tangram 1:17:51 Next Time: CentOS 1:20:03 Stinger The video version: https://youtu.be/ZC4IUlCfP1c Banter Podman (https://podman.io/) Podman Desktop (https://podman-desktop.io/) Announcements Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace Firefox 109 (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/109.0/releasenotes/) brings manifest v3 support What are we talking about? (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/heres-whats-going-on-in-the-world-of-extensions/) Maniwhat, now? Version who? 2018, Google proposes (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nPu6Wy4LWR66EFLeYInl3NzzhHzc-qnk4w4PX-0XMw8/edit#) Manifest v3. July 2019, The EFF notes. (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/googles-plans-chrome-extensions-wont-really-help-security) Then in September of 2019, Firefox responded (https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/09/03/mozillas-manifest-v3-faq/) to the Manifest v3 announcement. April 2020, Vivaldi, with version 3.0, debuts its ad and tracker blocker (https://vivaldi.com/blog/1-day-2-big-vivaldi-browser-releases/) as a means to bypass (https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/) the manifest v3 issue altogether. Brave had always had an ad blocker, but beefed up (https://brave.com/improved-ad-blocker-performance/) its performance and ability in 2019. November 2020, Google finalizes and publishes Manifest v3 (https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/intro/). December 2021, The EFF reminds us (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation). uBlock Origin Lite (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commit/a559f5f2715c58fea4de09330cf3d06194ccc897) exists. More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Moar Browser Watch Chromium answers Leo's prayers! In 109, Linux scrolling seems to have been fixed (https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1270089#c27). He complained about it in Season 2 Episode 16 (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/216). The Bug. (https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=521211) ### A fix to the web Brave's been blocking the cookie consent banners (https://brave.com/privacy-updates/21-blocking-cookie-notices/). Feedback Thanks Johnny (Aromatic Dev) for having the Linux Game Cast (https://linuxgamecast.com/) folks give us a shout. A couple of other topics Kid3 turns 20 (https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/01/kid3-20th-birthday/) qrencode (https://linux.die.net/man/1/qrencode) DuckDuckGo instant answers (https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/features/instant-answers-and-other-features/) can make QR codes too, just type qr code WHATEVER e.g. qr code https://linuxuserspace.show. Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) Community Focus The ASUS NoteBook Linux Community (https://asus-linux.org/) Their GitLab (https://gitlab.com/asus-linux) App Focus Gnome Web + Tangram Gnome Web (https://apps.gnome.org/app/org.gnome.Epiphany/) Tangram (https://apps.gnome.org/app/re.sonny.Tangram/) Next Time The history of CentOS (https://www.centos.org/), a few thoughts, and whatever else we can cram into the show* Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. 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Coming up in this episode 1. Helping one helps the other 2. A little off the beaten path 3. The history of GeckoLinux 4. And our experience 5. What will we think of next? The Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5OUEGvlYc 0:00 Cold Open 1:35 Framasoft is Everywhere 5:41 Side Quest, Endeavour 10:03 Side Quest, Vanilla 19:04 GeckoLinux History 2001-2005 21:04 2015 24:39 2016-2022 29:00 2022 - January 2023 34:49 Couple of Sam Things 45:14 How It Went 53:14 Side Quest, Catppuccin 55:00 Side Quest, Ghostwriter 1:00:00 Next Time 1:07:21 Stinger Banter Framasoft (https://framasoft.org/en/) is the association behind both FreshRSS (https://www.freshrss.org) and Peertube (https://joinpeertube.org) Dan's been on EndeavourOS Cassini (https://endeavouros.com/news/cassini-packed-with-new-features-is-here/) Leo's been trying out VanillaOS (https://vanillaos.org/) started by Mirko Brombin (https://mastodon.social/@mirkobrombin) Dan's new favorite theme - Catppuccin Macchiato (https://github.com/catppuccin/catppuccin) Announcements Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. If you like what we're doing here, make sure to send us a buck over at https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace Gecko Linux the History GeckoLinux (https://geckolinux.github.io) openSUSE (https://www.opensuse.org) November 13, 2015, the first release of GeckoLinux 421.15.1113.6 was announced (https://web.archive.org/web/20151117201144/http://geckolinux.github.io/) Explaining the version number (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/wiki#version-numbering) In December 2015, alongside Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome and Budgie were added (https://web.archive.org/web/20151212040452/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/). In addition a BareBones edition (https://web.archive.org/web/20160327124759/https://susestudio.com/a/OO38wm/geckolinux-barebones). And a few days later Plasma, Mate, and LXQt get their first ISOs (https://web.archive.org/web/20151231064432/http://geckolinux.github.io:80/) SUSE Studio Express (https://www.suse.com/c/suse-studio-online-open-build-service-suse-studio-express/) Budgie put on ice (https://groups.google.com/g/geckolinux-updates/c/kv0OOBXOJvA) for a while. Pantheon is added (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Pantheon). AND the Budgie ROLLING and NEXT editions make a return (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/200830.152-Budgie). A vote for which default filesystem was held (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/210) with btrfs winning. The same vote, but for the STATIC edition was held (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/issues/226). Static will have a sunset in the future due to the change in LEAP (https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/SHINA373OTC7M4CVICCKXDUXN5C3MYX3/) Since that has happened yet GeckoLinux released after 15.4 (https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinux-project/releases/tag/220822.154) Extra Information https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109419 https://www.linux.org/threads/linux-daydreaming.32228/post-109458 https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/ https://www.linux.org/threads/hello-from-the-geckolinux-creator.32256/post-109567 More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) Next Time We will discuss a couple of topics and some feedback. Our next distro is CentOS (https://www.centos.org) Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Co-Producer Johnny Tim Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Nicholas Paul sleepyeyesvince

Hey everyone, and welcome to the Linux User Space! Normally we'd be releasing a new episode today, but we have to pause due to some health issues. We'll pick back up with episode 14 of season 3 featuring Gecko Linux in two weeks. So stay tuned and check out our Youtube and TILVids in the mean time.

Coming up in this episode 1. Today I Learned 2. Let's get generous 3. Browser Watch! 4. So much feedback 5. Automated whack-a-mole Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:47 We're on TILvids 14:20 Johnny's Fundraising Drive! 22:19 Johnny's Distro Apocalypse 36:13 Mozilla Watch feat. Vivaldi 53:21 Feedback: furicle 53:52 Feedback: py 57:03 Feedback: georgh 1:02:18 Feedback: Anon 1:06:57 Feedback: Daniel 1:09:19 Community Focus: Techno Tim 1:13:16 App Focus: CrowdSec 1:22:24 Next Time: Gecko Linux 1:23:57 Stinger The Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-JOoe0ivuI Banter We're on TILvids! (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) What the heck is a TILvids? (https://tilvids.com/w/e58xxgfeYXM2R3wouecxEm) Announcements Give us a sub on YouTube (https://linuxuserspace.show/youtube) and now TILvids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) You can watch us live on Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) the day after an episode drops. Feedback from Johnny Leo's pick for a project to support - Kdenlive (https://kdenlive.org/en/fund/) Dan's pick for a project to support - FreshRSS (https://liberapay.com/FreshRSS/) Leo's pick if his top 3 distros went away - openSUSE Tumbleweed (https://www.opensuse.org/#Tumbleweed) Dan's pick if his top 3 distros went away - Fedora (https://getfedora.org) Housekeeping Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) Browser Watch Mozilla Adding accessibility (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-accessibility-text-recognition-screen-readers/) https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/ Cache the World! (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/CacheTheWorld) Reflecting on a decade of anti-tracking (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/mozilla-anti-tracking-milestones-timeline/) Vivaldi New web panel is enabled for Mastodon (https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-6-on-desktop/) on Vivaldi's own Mastodon instance. (https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/vivaldi-social-a-new-mastodon-instance/) tl;dr you can change it for any other Mastodon instance too. More Feedback History show possibilities. furicle on Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/@furicle/109433001649525625) Have you tried BunsenLabs? py on Mastodon (https://troet.cafe/@py/109501553939756086) Leo has had an interest since "The end." (https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=38916) Emacs thoughts georgh on the History of Emacs clip (https://youtu.be/8dpnow-j000) Leo went down the Internet Rabbit Hole and suggests this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV-7J5y1TQc) More Announcements Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, contact@linuxuserspace.show Community Focus Techno Tim's website with all of his links (https://technotim.live) App Focus CrowdSec (https://www.crowdsec.net/) Next Time We will discuss GeckoLinux (https://geckolinux.github.io) and the history. Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned and interact with us on Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge our top patrons. Thank you for your support! Producer Bruno John Dave Co-Producer Johnny Tim Super User Advait Bjørnar CubicleNate Eduardo S. Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Nicholas Paul sleepyeyesvince