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Hosted by Jenny Anderson, the Learnit podcast showcases global learning leaders re-imagining what students need to know, how they will learn it and the technology they are using to get there. We look at school leaders, tech entrepreneurs, and learning engineers who are closing equity gaps, accelerating academic learning and instilling in every learner the drive and skills to learn and thrive.
Jenny is a former financial journalist who loves to tell a story, interrogate the numbers and uncover the impact learning innovations have on children and adults. This is a podcast for edtech geeks, teachers and educators as well as parents who want to know the secrets to unlocking rich, deep learning.
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With 4,000 students on campus and 180,000 online, President of Southern New Hampshire University, Paul LeBlanc aims to transform lives at scale by putting students at the centre of the education experience.In this episode, we talk a lot about the power of love, the difference between belonging and mattering, and why competency based education is finally taking off.Show notes:More about Southern New Hampshire University, https://www.snhu.edu/More about Gregory Elliot’s work at Brown University:, https://www.brown.edu/academics/sociology/people/gregory-elliottMore about David Graeber’s work: https://davidgraeber.org/Favourite book about learning: ‘Death at an Early Age’, Jonathan KozolFavourite book: ‘Anna Karenina’, Leo Tolstoy
As Co-founders of Class Dojo, Sam Chaudhary and Liam Don have built a community of 51 million teachers, parents and students, to share kids’ learning moments. They’re now building a virtual sandbox for kids who already know each other, to hang out, create and play. We discuss their recent funding, privacy and data and how they continue to make progress on the mission they defined in 2011: to give every kid on the planet an education they love.Show notes:Class Dojo: https://www.classdojo.com/Previous successes: https://qz.com/791388/meet-mojo-a-monster-stanford-helped-create-to-teach-your-kids-that-effort-matters-more-than-iqFavourite books about learning: ‘Mathematical Mindsets: Unleashing Students' Potential through Creative Math, Inspiring Messages and Innovative Teaching’, Jo Boaler and ‘Theory of Fun for Game Design’, Ralph KosterFavourite books: ‘A Mathematical Theory of Communication’, Claude E. Shannon and ‘The Beginning of Infinity: Explanations that Transform the World’, David Deutsch
As co-founder and CEO of tiney, a venture capital backed social enterprise, Brett Wigdortz is looking to fix the very broken child care market. We discuss the exodus from the profession, the needed changes to government policy and how his tech platform provides support and a community for those caring for society’s smallest and most vulnerable.Show notes:- tiney’s website: https://www.tiney.co/- Early years framework: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/early-years-foundation-stage-framework--2- Favourite book about learning: ‘Thinking, Fast and Slow’, Daniel Kahneman- Favourite book: ‘Never Let Me Go’, Kazuo Ishiguro
As Founder and CEO of Apna, an Indian jobs and networking platform, Nirmit Parikh believes employment is the tool to addressing poverty and accelerating education. In this episode we discuss how Apna matches their 25 million job seekers with employers, how they raised $190 million, and how Nirmit balances being both a pirate and a navy captain.Show notes:More about Apna: https://apna.co/Favourite book about learning: 'High Output Management', Andrew S. Grove & 'Tribe of Mentors: Short Life Advice from the Best in the World', Timothy FerrissFavourite book not about learning: 'When Breath Becomes Air', Paul Kalanithi
With a career spanning education minister and employment minister, to digital technology executive, the Rt Hon Lord Jim Knight of Weymouth is advocating for greater climate education. We discuss a number of models of sustainable citizenship, changes to national funding formulas, the new British natural history GCSE and the role of legislation to make sustainable citizenship more equitable.Show notes:- Suklaa Education: https://www.suklaa.org/- Teach the Future: https://www.teachthefuture.uk/- Alliance for Sustainability Leadership in Education: https://www.eauc.org.uk/home- Lorenzo Fioramonti’s work: https://lorenzofioramonti.org/the-author/- The Eden Project’s teaching resources: https://www.edenproject.com/learn/schools/teaching-resources- Aim Hi Earth: https://www.aimhi.earth/- David Dixon, ‘Leadership for Sustainability: Saving the Planet One School at a Time’: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59205119-leadership-for-sustainability- Stephen Heppell’s Learnometer: https://gratnellslearnometer.com/- Favourite book about learning: Ken Robinson, ‘Finding Your Element’- Favourite book not about learning: Vikram Seth ‘A Suitable Boy’
Building on our last episode, this week we talk to Sbusisiwe Myeni, Co-founder and CEO of Imbeleko Foundation, a South African charity based in the province of KwaZulu-Natal, running after-school programmes for children with academic promise but who face challenges getting an education. We discuss creative ways non-profits like hers can partner with platforms like UCT Online (a digital high school in partnership with the University of Cape Town) to fill critically important gaps, the difficulties of bringing online education to poor, rural communities, and what works (and what doesn’t) for vulnerable children.Show Notes:More about Imbeleko Foundation: https://www.imbeleko.org/?mkt_tok=MzQ0LUFFWi04OTEAAAGFMDF0s6bpP9aVLVVJ9l8dTG6ds4GGE9Yki9RhPReSqxaprZwpZKbGFWFG4dfoCRRYIegh8MKdEaDeNO8odpAMore about UCT Online High School: https://www.uctonlinehighschool.com/Our previous episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/48-robert-paddock-valenture-institute-addressing-the/id1518322612?i=1000565743400
With the need for new schools far outstripping the available budget to build them, how can South Africa meet the needs of its growing student population? As Founder and CEO of Valenture Institute, Rob Paddock is working to address this imbalance by scaling quality education through online learning. We discuss how the rise in online schooling during Covid resulted in a pivot in their business model, how their solution addresses the massive teacher shortage, lightens the load on teachers and how a coordinated partnership with University of Cape Town gets high quality learning to thousands of students across South Africa, at an affordable price point.Show notes:- More about Valenture Institute: https://www.valentureinstitute.com/- More about UCT High School: https://www.uctonlinehighschool.com/- More about GetSmarter: https://www.getsmarter.com/- Favourite book about learning: ‘The War of Art: Winning the Inner Creative Battle’ by Steven Pressfield - Favourite book not about learning: ‘Autobiography of a Yogi’, Paramahansa Yogananda
Does the UK education system help learners develop a love of learning, acquire life skills and develop knowledge? As High Mistress of St Paul’s Girls’ School, a high achieving independent school in London, and Co-Director of Big Education, a multi-academy trust and social enterprise, Sarah Fletcher and Peter Hyman are convinced we need to change the way we assess students in the UK. We examine the condemning data which backs the case for change, what we should be assessing and what we can do to get closer to an education of head, heart and hand.Show notes:- More about St Paul’s Girls’ School: https://spgs.org/- More about Big Education: https://bigeducation.org/- More about School 21: https://www.school21.org.uk/- HMC survey on curriculum and assessment: https://www.hmc.org.uk/blog/hmc-survey-finds-curriculum-and-assessment-is-no-longer-fit-for-purpose/
As CEO of Coursera, Jeff Maggioncalda has witnessed the open online course provider grow from 42 million learners pre pandemic to over 80 million. We discuss the future of learning and work, the ways the two intersect and the impact increased remote working has had on diversifying workforces. We also examine the edtech market, current valuations and Coursera’s own stock price.Show notes:- More about Coursera: https://www.coursera.org/- Coursera’s 2021 Global Skills Report: https://www.coursera.org/skills-reports/global- Favourite ‘book’ about learning: ‘Learning How to Learn’ course on Coursera, https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn- Favourite book not about learning: ‘The Big Picture’ by Sean Carroll, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26150770-the-big-picture
Awarded North Carolina’s 2022 Superintendent of the Year, Dr. Valerie Bridges’ is dedicated to innovation and providing students with the rich experiences to inspire their learning and give them a voice in their education. As Superintendent of Edgecombe County, a rural, high needs district serving 14 schools and 6,000 students, Valerie discusses how their micro school has allowed them to test some of their ideas - a different kind of school day, a different kind of curricula - and how she is scaling that success.Show notes:Case study on Edgecombe County Public Schools & Transcend: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pI5MECv2g7ayKpWN26UnPoWYiM2sB4W1/viewCase study video: https://www.ednc.org/we-drive-it-inside-the-north-phillips-school-fo-innovation-short-film/More about Edgecombe County Public Schools: https://www.ecps.us/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=1637934&type=d&pREC_ID=1779439Twitter: @ECPS_DrBFavourite book about learning: ‘The Listening Leader: Creating the Conditions for Equitable School Transformation’, Shane SafirFavourite book not about learning: Anything by John Grisham“Leading with love”, Learnit Podcast episode featuring Michael Sorrell: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1-michael-sorrell-leading-with-love-during-a-time-of-crisis/id1518322612?i=1000477785314
As Director General of Alianza Educativa, a non-profit organization which runs 11 charter schools across Colombia, Pablo Jaramillo Quintero provides examples of what's been lost during the pandemic and ideas on how to regain it. Serving 12,000 children in some of the most challenging neighbourhoods, Pablo discusses rebuilding trust, supporting teachers and finding the balance of assisting students in need whilst re-establishing high expectations and behavioural norms.Show notes:More about Alianz Educativa: http://alianzaeducativa.edu.co/actualizacion/ Reflections on reopening schools: https://www.globalschoolsforum.org/page/LessonsfromschoolreopeninginColombia More on social and emotional learning for teachers - The Learnit Podcast with Ellen Mahoney: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/29-ellen-mahoney-ceo-co-founder-circulus-institute/id1518322612?i=1000526769666 Favourite book about learning: ‘Visible Learning’, John Hattie, https://visible-learning.org/ Favourite book not about learning: ‘100 Years of Solitude’, Gabriel García Márquez, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/320.OneHundredYearsofSolitude Binge watching: Encanto, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2953050/
As Partnerships Director at ACS International Schools, Graeme Lawrie is transforming what partnership in schools can be. Having established the UK’s largest school-based festival of science, he’s now organising a STEAM day for 10,000 children at the amusement park Thorpe Park. We talk about how his autism is a superpower which enables him to focus and prepare for the scale of these projects, his video series documenting neurodiversity from all perspectives and the many useful hacks he developed to support his autistic son Joe.Show notes:More about Graeme Lawrie: https://www.acs-schools.com/graeme-lawrie-mbeMore about ACS schools: https://www.acs-schools.com/Live link to International Space Station: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKMKGSt8W4kMore about neurodiversity video project: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F7Zxjuyphd6MNYF4E0HOlSCvHyk4SXX6WiJQ38LXU/edit
aeioTU, a social enterprise in Colombia, provides high-quality early childhood education and care, trains educators, creates resources and advocates for early learning to local regional and national governments.As Executive Director, Maria Adelaida Lopez talks about how they’ve scaled to reach over half a million children, how they work outside the formal system to drive change within and how their vision of learning that is anchored in play, looks to transform communities in an innovative and sustainable way.Show notes:More about aeioTU - https://www.aeiotu.com/ More about Maria’s work: https://www.globalschoolsforum.org/news/465501/Maria-Adelaida-Lopez-on-the-power-of-early-childhood-education-to-transform-lives.htm More about early education in Colombia: https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/9789264250604-en/1/2/2/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/9789264250604-en&_csp_=d30737202605961d33149cd3306c57f3&itemIGO=oecd&itemContentType=book Longitudinal study on impact in EC - https://nieer.org/research/aeiotu-longitudinal-study Favourite book about learning: ‘How to Be an Explorer of the World: Portable Life Museum’, Keri Smith, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3090109-how-to-be-an-explorer-of-the-world Favourite book not about learning: ‘One Hundred Years of Solitude’, Gabriel García Márquez, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/320.One_Hundred_Years_of_Solitude
As former Vice-Chancellor of the University of Buckingham and former Head of Wellington College, Sir Anthony Seldon is one of Britain’s leading voices calling for radical change in education. He wants to move from what he calls the third education revolution – which was marked by homogenisation, heavy administrative burdens and little social mobility – to a fourth education revolution, one that embraces AI to personalise learning and frees up teachers to focus on relationships, developing student agency and offering everyone more autonomy. We talk about why he’s confident the pace of change is accelerating, why every human should get to experience university and why wellbeing must be a priority.Show notes:More about Sir Anthony Seldon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Seldon More about Action For Happiness: https://www.actionforhappiness.org/ 10 days of happiness programme: https://10daysofhappiness.org/ The Fourth Education Revolution: How Artificial Intelligence is Changing the Face of Education: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40093369-the-fourth-education-revolution Books by Anthony Seldon: https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/211589.Anthony_Seldon Favourite book about learning: ‘Le Grand Meaulnes’ by Alain-Fournier https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/794779.LeGrandMeaulnes
Why do university faculty at Carnegie Mellon University - an institution renowned for its learning sciences and advances in technology enhanced learning - so often fail to adopt them? As anthropologist at CMU, specialising in faculty culture and use of technology, Lauren Herckis offers key insights, and useful advice on how leaders might navigate reluctance from their own teams to embrace new technologies. We talk about her many surprising findings and whether the recent acceleration of edtech will be sustained.Show notes:- More about Lauren Herckis: http://www.laurenherckis.com/- Lauren’s research: http://www.laurenherckis.com/research/- Favourite book about learning: ‘How Learning Works: Seven Research-Based Principles for Smart Teaching’, Susan A. Ambrose, Michael W. Bridges, Michele DiPietro, Marsha C. Lovett, Marie K. Norman, Richard E. Mayer https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7036409-how-learning-works- Favourite book not about learning: ‘The Gold Bug Variations’, Richard Powers https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23012.TheGoldBug_Variations
Transcend is a non-profit addressing the lack of R&D departments for education, by working with schools to figure out what they want to change and then helping them do it. Jeff Wetzler, Co-Founder and Jenee Henry Wood, Partner, discuss how their guiding principles will shift schools from an industrial model of mass production which sorts and ranks, to one whose purpose and design point toward equity and positive student experience.Show notes:- More about Transcend: https://www.transcendeducation.org/- Edgecombe County & Transcend case study (incl. academic success, page 9): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pI5MECv2g7ayKpWN26UnPoWYiM2sB4W1/view - Book: Forrest Carter, ‘The Education of Little Tree’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/116236.TheEducationofLittleTree - Book: Frederic Laloux ‘Reinventing Organisations’. https://www.reinventingorganizations.com/ - Book: John Steinbeck, ‘East of Eden’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4406.EastofEden - Book: Mark Twain, ‘The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2956.TheAdventuresofHuckleberryFinn
The Luminos Fund is an education non-profit that aims to get the most marginalized students into mainstream schools in Ethiopia, Liberia, Lebanon, and Ghana. Caitlin Baron and Alemayehu Hailu Gebre shed light on how the accelerated learning program packs 3 years of learning into 10 months by building a learning mindset and involving the community in a successful, joyful learning process.Show Notes:More about Luminos: https://luminosfund.org/UNESCO’s research on the number of teachers required to teach those out of school: http://uis.unesco.org/en/document/world-needs-almost-69-million-new-teachers-reach-2030-education-goalsFavourite books about learning: ‘Make It Stick: The Science of Successful Learning’, Peter C. Brown, Henry L. Roediger III, Mark A. McDaniel and ‘The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down: A Hmong Child, Her American Doctors, and the Collision of Two Cultures’, Anne FadimanFavourite books not about learning: ‘The Sign and the Seal: The Quest for the Lost Ark of the Covenant’, Graham Hancock & ‘Homegoing’, Yaa Gyasi
Launched in September 2021, Boris Walbaum founded Forward College, a pan-European university designed to develop all forms of human intelligences and skills. Students learn in small groups with full-time teachers, a high dose of formative assessment, and one-to-one tutoring. Boris believes that education should be the most meaningful experience for students but also for the world at large. With students demanding an opportunity to have an impact, and with a sense of urgency, Forward College aims to help them develop the skills to practice this. Show notes: - More about Forward College: https://forward-college.eu/ - Favourite book about learning: Jo Boaler, Limitless Mind, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42940498-limitless-mind - Favourite book not about learning: Marcel Proust, 'À la Recherche du Temps Perdu' https://www.goodreads.com/series/55129-la-recherche-du-temps-perdu
As former acting education minister of Afghanistan, Rangina Hamidi committed to reforming teacher training, modernizing the massive education department, and implementing a national education policy. We discuss her decision to flee Afghanistan after the Taliban’s takeover, and how to effect change from outside the system, when she had so clearly decided the best way to reform Afghanistan was internally.Show notes:Hamidi’s considerations on whether to remain in Kabul: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/08/14/npr-afghan-education-minister-talks-about-future-of-afghanistanHamidi’s reflections on the future for Afghanistan: https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1426930398546776070U.S. exit from Afghanistan: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/18/us/politics/zalmay-khalilzad-afghanistan.htmlRangina Hamidi speaking at Learnit Live, March 2021: https://learnit.world/on-demand
As former head of Wuhan Yangtze International School, Erika Carlson now heads up iSC Academy, an all online school, primarily for Chinese nationals abroad, which has since attracted many Chinese families too. Erika and I talk about how to better integrate digital learning, how to achieve community and relationships online, and what's driving the most recent crackdown in the education sector in China.Show notes:More about iSC Academy: https://learnwithisca.com/en/about/overviewMore about international schools consortium: https://ldi.global/iscMore about Leadership International Development: https://ldi.global/leadership
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