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Anchored is published by the Classic Learning Test. The show features CEO Jeremy Tate engaging in conversations with leading thinkers on issues at the intersection of education and culture, as well as headline news in the world of education. New discussions every Thursday. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Note: This is Part 2 of an episode co-release detailing responses to the #DisruptTexts movement which caught national attention. Meghan Cox Gurdon is an author and weekly columnist for The Wall Street Journal, where she writes on children's books. Her recent op-ed in the WSJ, entitled "Even Homer Gets Mobbed," outlined efforts by the group #DisruptTexts to have works of the Western Canon removed from school curricula (the movement's official statement: #DisruptTexts is a crowdsourced, grass roots effort by teachers for teachers to challenge the traditional canon in order to create a more inclusive, representative, and equitable language arts curriculum that our students deserve. It is part of our mission to aid and develop teachers committed to anti-racist/anti-bias teaching pedagogy and practices). In this episode, Meghan joins Jeremy to discuss not only the impetus for writing this article, but also the overwhelming response that she received in response, as well as the larger movement of critical theory within our institutions. While discussing the laudable efforts toward more representative literature for children, she describes the results of misguided efforts to declare texts not reflective of modern sensibilities as "dangerous" and "harmful." She also discusses her book The Enchanted Hour, which examines the social, mental, and physiological benefits of reading aloud. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Meghan Cox GurdonEven Homer Gets Mobbed#DisruptTextsThe Enchanted Hour
Note: This is Part 1 of an episode co-release detailing responses to the #DisruptTexts movement which caught national attention. As Superintendent of Schools for the Boston Archdiocese, Thomas Carroll joins Jeremy to discuss the challenges that he faced in his new role during a global pandemic.  Amid public statements by Massachusetts' three largest teachers unions indicating that schools would continue remote-learning indefinitely, Mr. Carroll weighed the evidence and sought to re-open Catholic schools in Boston. His decision—while initially receiving backlash—produced outcomes lauded by Mass. Gov. Charlie Baker, and the reopenings were featured in several national newspapers. Mr. Carroll discusses these events, as well as his larger goals and work toward revitalizing Catholic education by moving the schools away from secularization and re-focusing on religious formation. Tom also discusses his response to the #DisruptTexts movement which caught national attention on Twitter as members of the coalition congratulated their work in having Homer's Odyssey removed from a Mass. school curriculum. Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Thomas Carroll @BostonCathSuptHow Boston Catholic Schools Opened for In-Person Learning Amid the PandemicCovid and the Catholic Schools—WSJ
Dr. Greg Thompson is the Executive Director of Voices Underground, an initiative to build a national memorial to the Underground Railroad,  and he is a Research Fellow in African American Cultural Heritage at Lincoln University. He joins Jeremy to discuss his recent response to Rod Dreher's new book Live Not By Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents, to include the notion that it imports a fear-based worldview into the Benedictine Tradition. Other issues he touches on include reparations, why many criticisms of critical theory (as well as popular conceptions of "wokeness" in the current culture and academia) are misguided, the ways in which some elements of current social movements are leaning toward illiberalism, and how the writings of W.E.B. DuBois and Martin Luther King Jr. still echo today. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate Guest Greg Thompson The Return of the Cold Warrior: Reflections on Rod Dreher's Live Not By LiesWoke Preacher: Live Not by Lies is 'Dangerous'Reparations: A Christian Call for Repentance and Repair
LCDR Ali Ghaffari is an F/A-18 pilot, Associate Director of the Stockdale Center for Ethical Leadership at the United States Naval Academy, and the founder of Divine Mercy Academy, a classical liberal arts school formed in the Catholic tradition. He joins Jeremy to discuss his academic journey and the educational experiences that led him to not only discover and favor classical education for its formative nature, but also to found a classical school. He also discusses the ways in which the classics can enrich and inform leadership development. Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest LCDR Ali GhaffariDivine Mercy Academy
An examination of the current moment demonstrates that the United States is mired in a social crisis which is intensifying political polarization. What role do institutions play in staving off further discord? Yuval Levin is the founding editor of National Affairs and the Director of Social, Cultural, and Constitutional Studies at the American Enterprise Institute.  He joins Jeremy to discuss his book A Time to Build and delves into a conversation on the role of institutions in shaping people and common goals. Yuval touches on the ways in which institutional failures are engendering social difficulties, paying particular attention to the shifting role of higher education. While the cultural debate concerning free speech on campus seems to have captured the attention of the American public, Yuval notes that renewed discussion on the purpose of higher education—one that focuses on the pursuit of truth through teaching and learning—may hold promise not only for the formative experience of college itself, but may also provide answers to the growing enrollment quandary in the U.S. today. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Yuval LevinA Time to Build: From Family and Community to Congress and the Campus, How Recommitting to Our Institutions Can Revive the American DreamNational Affairs
Spencer Klavan is associate editor of the Claremont Review of Books and The American Mind.  As host of the increasingly popular Young Heretics podcast, he engages his audience with the wealth of wisdom found in the great works of  Western culture, albeit with one caveat—identity politics are checked at the door. Spencer joins Jeremy to discuss cancel culture on campus and the consequences of universities surrendering their role in soulcraft. Spencer further touches on the concept of Damnatio memoriae and its relation to recent events, and how citizens' realization that their power in society extends beyond mere voting may positively impact civil society. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Spencer Klavan @SpencerKlavanYoung Heretics podcastHonor in a World Gone Mad
Dr. Angel Adams Parham is the Rev. Joseph H. Fichter Distinguished Professor of Social Science and Associate Professor of Sociology at Loyola University-New Orleans, where her work focuses on the comparative and historical sociology of race. In this episode, she talks with Jeremy about her dual role as a college professor and a Classical homeschooling parent. She also discusses the recent efforts by the group Decolonization at Brown to take down the statues of Marcus Aurelius and Caesar Augustus at the Ivy League university. She notes the importance of an approach to these types of events which puts the past into conversation with the present. To illustrate this point, she discusses the Stoic philosopher Epictetus and his connection to Toussaint Louverture, the leader of the Haitian Revolution. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Angel Adams Parham The Statues Must Go: Brown Should Not Celebrate Colonialism
Why do students at Brown University want to tear down statues of Marcus Aurelius and Caesar Augustus? Italian journalist Alessandra Bocchi has reported from Hong Kong, Libya, and across Europe, and she is currently the Joseph Rago Memorial Fellow at The Wall Street Journal. She joins Jeremy to discuss her recent WSJ op-ed, "Ancient History Isn't Colonialism," in which she argues that the efforts of the group Decolonization at Brown miss the mark when it comes to the Western Tradition. She also discusses differences between the Italian and U.S. secondary school systems, and Jeremy reflects on CLT's mission to reinvigorate study of the Classics in U.S. schools. Send comments or questions to anchored@cltexam.comHost Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41 Guest Alessandra Bocchi @alessabocchiAncient History Isn't ColonialismThe Statues Must Go: Brown Should Not Celebrate Colonialism
Is there sufficient viewpoint diversity in K-12 education today? Daniel Buck is a teacher and freelance author who has written for such publications as National Review, City Journal, The American Mind, Quillette, and others. He joins Jeremy to discuss the questions that he began asking as a school teacher which led him to not only change his personal views on education, but also to advocate for a renewed national conversation concerning the proper aims of education. He further discusses the conversations that were facilitated when he began publicly addressing the "echo chamber" of education, and how this led to the founding of The Chalkboard Review, an online journal of educational commentary that features a diverse range of voices on all things education—left, right, and center. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Daniel Buck @MrDanielBuckThe Chalkboard ReviewTrue Education is Beautiful—The American Mind, Claremont Institute
Dr. Anthony Bradley, professor of religious studies and director of the Center for the Study of Human Flourishing at The King’s College NYC, joins Jeremy to discuss the problem with overcriminalization and why criminal justice reforms have often proven difficult—he discusses the ways in which civic institutions can avert people's continued entry into the criminal justice system while also reducing recidivism rates. Additionally, Anthony explores the role of fatherhood and the research he has conducted that illustrates its role not only in positive social outcomes and academic development, but also within other categories that are not immediately apparent. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Anthony Bradley @drantbradleyEnding Overcriminalization and Mass Incarceration: Hope from Civil Society
Machiavelli and the merciless use of power is oftentimes used to illustrate Renaissance political philosophy.  Dr. James Hankins, professor of history at Harvard University and one of the foremost authorities on Renaissance political thought, joins Jeremy to discuss how his book Virtue Politics challenges the common portrayal of Machiavelli as the exemplary thinker of the Renaissance. Dr. Hankins discusses the humanists' revival of the ancient view that politics are not sound unless individuals of the polity are morally sound, as well as the ways in which humanist thought indicated that the long-term resilience of institutions fundamentally relies on the virtuous character of those inhabiting the institutions. Dr. Hankins also shares his thoughts on classical education today, and shines light on the important teaching distinctions within the modern university. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. James Hankins Virtue Politics: Soulcraft and Statecraft in Renaissance Italy
The issue of free speech on campus has become an increasingly visible debate for higher education. Dr. Sigal Ben-Porath (University of Pennsylvania professor, fellow at Harvard's Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics, and former chair of Penn's Committee on Open Expression) joins Jeremy to discuss what she has found to be the most common misconceptions concerning student views on free expression. While discussing the vital nature of free speech to colleges' mission, she outlines ways in which colleges can articulate a dual commitment to free speech and inclusivity, which may serve to ease campus tensions. The conversation also moves to the importance of returning to well-rounded civic education in the United States, as well as the ways in which the historical precedent of school choice—which pre-dates America's Founding—should reframe the discussion on this critical issue. Send any questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Sigal Ben-PorathFree Speech on CampusMaking Up Our Mind: What School Choice is Really About
Dr. Louis Markos, an authority on C. S. Lewis and a professor in English at Houston Baptist University, joins Jeremy Tate to discuss his new book The Myth Made Fact: Reading Greek and Roman Mythology through Christian Eyes. Dr. Markos discusses how a famous conversation between J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis inspired him to write a book which seeks to connect the wisdom of Greco-Roman mythology to Christian faith, thus informing a "ministry of myth." He also discusses the academy's current crisis of over-specialization in the humanities which has worn away at its heritage and inhibited the development of more public intellectuals. Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Louis Markos The Myth Made Fact: Reading Greek and Roman Mythology through Christian Eyes
Andrew Zwerneman, president of Cana Academy, joins Jeremy Tate to discuss his new book History Forgotten and Remembered.  Andrew discusses the reasons why society has grown out of the habit of thinking historically. He also touches on why thinking historically should involve the concept of living between "two great acts of giving"—that of being given the culture we inhabit, and the act of conveying what we cultivate today to future generations. He also discusses why a fragmentary approach to  history (which retells history by viewing only egregious events in our past) is harmful to the study of history and ultimately to society.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Andrew Zwerneman Cana AcademyHistory Forgotten and Remembered
What does it mean to be happy? Is modern society only concerned with the superficial trappings of happiness? Dr. Jennifer Frey, professor of philosophy at the University of South Carolina and former collegiate professor in Humanities at the University of Chicago, joins Jeremy in a discussion on why the social sciences' attempts at quantifying happiness misses the mark, and the ways in which Plato and Aristotle's conceptions of human flourishing have much to offer the modern world.  Dr. Frey also discusses the opportunities that are lost when education sidelines the fundamental questions of human existence in favor of strict skills development. She also touches on philosophy's role within a higher education system increasingly focused on vocational training. Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Jennifer Frey @jennfreyVirtue, Happiness, and the Meaning of LifePodcast: Sacred and Profane Love
As the daughter of immigrants and herself an Oxford student, Katharine Birbalsingh entered a program in which she encouraged inner-city students onto a path toward Oxford themselves. In that role, she found her love for teaching and was eventually asked to speak at the Conservative Party conference (where her speech gained more views than the UK's prime minister at the time). Her ideas on education received backlash, and she was forced to exit her teaching position. Today, she is the founder and headmistress of the Michaela Community School in London, an exceptionally successful free school (similar to a U.S. charter school) which is used as a model for schools around the world. In this episode, she discusses with Jeremy Tate why she stood up to promote academic values that run counter to identity politics in education.  Ms. Birbalsingh was recently made Commander of the Order of the British Empire by the Queen for her services to education. Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Katharine Birbalsingh @Miss_SnuffyMichaela Community SchoolBattle Hymn of the Tiger Teachers: The Michaela WayThe Power of Culture: The Michaela WayE.D. Hirsch: The Schools We Need And Why We Don't Have Them
What underpins a worthwhile college education? This is the question that the What Will They Learn? College Rankings, published by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni (ACTA), seeks to answer. Dr. Michael Poliakoff, president of ACTA, joins Jeremy in a discussion on why a new college guide was needed: the failure of many colleges to provide a rigorous core curriculum, as well as the intellectual diversity needed for the free exchange of ideas. He also discusses the the ways in which campus speech regulation and self-censorship stand to harm liberal democracy. Send questions and comments to anchored@cltexam.comHost Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Michael Poliakoff @PoliakoffACTAACTA's What Will They Learn? college rankingsPhiladelphia Statement on Civil Discourse and Strengthening of Liberal Democracy
Anika Prather, professor in the Classics department at Howard University and founder of The Living Water School, joins Jeremy to discuss the journey that led her to become an advocate of classical education. Dr. Prather details her time at St. John's College and how that experience led her to shift her educational research focus to the history of classical education within the African-American community. She also describes the academic pushback which followed that decision and recounts the inspiration she gained from such seminal minds as W.E.B. Du Bois and Frederick Douglass. Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.comHost Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Anika Prather @AnikaFreeindeedClassic Learning in Black History Essay SeriesLiving in the Constellation of the Canon: The Lived Experiences of African-American Students Reading Great Books LiteratureThe Living Water SchoolNew CLT Partner CollegesGrove City College CLT Administration
Corey DeAngelis, Director of School Choice at the Reason Foundation, joins Jeremy to discuss the key issues at stake in the growing school choice movement. He provides insight into the pandemic's significance for the expansion of educational options while elaborating on the benefit of education dollars funding students over systems. He also discusses the incentive system at play in the current political debate on school choice. You won't want to miss his discussion on the School Choice Hypocrisy Map! Send questions or comments to anchored@cltexam.comHost Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Dr. Corey DeAngelis @DeAngelisCoreySchool Choice Myths: Setting the Record Straight on Education FreedomPennsylvania Must Fund Students, Not School Districts—Corey's Most Recent Op-EdEFI's School Choice Hypocrisy Map
Jessica Hooten Wilson, Louise Cowan Scholar in Residence at the University of Dallas, joins Jeremy to discuss cancel culture's impact on the influential author Flannery O'Connor (as well as on literature in general) and elaborates on her work in preparing O’Connor’s unfinished novel Why Do the Heathen Rage? for publication. Additionally, Prof. Hooten Wilson discusses challenges faced in the classroom, to include confronting students' "idol of use." Make sure to catch her personal book recommendations too! Send comments or questions about this episode to anchored@cltexam.com.Host Jeremy Tate @JeremyTate41Guest Jessica Hooten Wilson @HootenWilsonHow Flannery O'Connor Fought Racism in First Things—Hooten Wilson's response to The New Yorker article How Racist Was Flannery O'Connor?Why Do the Heathen Rage?
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