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Listen, laugh and learn as we share our latest thoughts about staying relevant, contemporary leadership and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the COO of Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops, and the co-founder of The Company You Keep.co.nz.
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Send a text Leadership styles. We all have one. Or six. Fresh from leadership camp, Ish and Sacha unpack the six classic leadership styles — and use some very recognisable global figures to bring them to life (brace yourself). From directive and commanding… to coaching and democratic… to pace-setting, relationship-driven, and visionary — this episode explores what each style looks like at its best, and at its worst. Spoiler: there is no perfect style. But there is a default. And it usually sh...
Send a text Midweek Mini: Slow Down to Go Fast A quick reminder that sometimes going slow makes you exponentially more efficient. The Core Principle Want to go fast at work building trust and relationships? Slow down first. How It Works Take time to: Really understand the people you're working withUnderstand the person on other side of table/dealAsk better questionsGet to know their motivationsLook for what they're NOT sayingConvey you have all the time in the world by: Putting in pause...
Send a text Not So Breakfast Show - Communication (The Number One Skill Leaders Want to Work On) Sacha's back from the Dominican Republic (near Cuba, NOT Spain, despite Ish's geography) where her mum didn't research the location until after she'd left, then panicked. Meanwhile, Ish is prepping for Leadership Camp and reviewing pre-work responses - discovering yet again that the number one skill leaders want to develop is communication. Not Excel, not finance, not employment law. ...
Send a text Not So Breakfast Show - Midweek Mini: Focus Check-In (The Dump Day Follow-Up) A quick midweek pause to audit where your attention actually is - and whether it's serving you or sabotaging you. The Core Question "Where is my focus right now?" There's usually something in your brain controlling your attention, whether you're aware of it or not. IS THIS SERVING ME? Your focus is currently on something. Maybe it's: A problem you can't solveAn opportunity you're pursuingA worry you can'...
Send a text Not So Breakfast Show - Episode 250: Always Be Learning (ABL) - And Why Sacha Wears the Same Outfit All Week Sacha's wearing the same outfit she wore yesterday (and will wear all week) following the Steve Jobs/Angela Merkel/Hillary Clinton uniform approach to reduce decision fatigue. Ish just learned this today after recording back-to-back sessions. This kicks off a conversation about ABL - Always Be Learning - exploring how our brains work, what we're teaching ourselves without r...
Send a text Not So Breakfast Show - Episode 249: How to Be Agreeably Disagreeable Sacha's experimenting with fake tan for the first time at nearly 53 (she looks like a giraffe's coat of many colors, according to her assessment), while Ish is fresh from the gym, sweaty and smelly (lucky they record on line). Today's topic: How do you disagree without becoming a career-limiting liability? How do you challenge ideas without tearing people down? Main Topics The Contrarian Personality -- Sacha adm...
Send a text MWM - One-Shot Moments Ish watched Ed Sheeran's Netflix special - one continuous hour-long shot following him from gig to gig across New York. No cuts, no edits, just seamless performance requiring massive preparation. It got him thinking: How many one-shot moments do we have in our lives where we just wing it instead of doing the prep that moment deserves? Main Topic The One-Shot Reality -- First impressions, crucial interviews, important presentations, make-or-break meetings. Yo...
Send a text Episode 248 It's Wednesday - traditionally "hump day" - but Sacha and Ish are rebranding it as "dump day" because they both have the minds of 12-year-old boys and can't get past the fornication implications. This episode is all about mental decluttering: getting the thoughts, tasks, and guilt out of your head so you can actually focus on what matters. From constipation metaphors to earthquake guilt, they cover why carrying less helps you show up as your best self. Main Topics The ...
Send a text The Not So Breakfast Show - Midweek Mini Episode: What Is Your Shadow? Episode Summary Every strength has a shadow side. If Superman were evil, he'd have all his abilities but use them for harm. This quick mini explores the downside of your strengths—from being the idea person who never finishes anything, to being so helpful you burn out and resent everyone. The trick? Take micro-pauses to ask: Does this situation need my strength right now, or am I best served by pulling ba...
Send a text Episode Show Notes Season 8 kicks off with Sacha unpacking boxes in her new Christchurch home (can't find her microphone lead!) and Ish fresh from the holidays. This episode tackles a question they get all the time: how do you speak without notes? They break down what notes actually are, when to use them (spoiler: funerals and podcasts), and why reading to your audience means you should have just sent an email. Plus: UK Traitors' enthusiasm and why nobody actually cares what...
Send a text Season 8 Announcement: Help Us Grow! Happy New Year 2026! A quick message before Season 8 drops. We're excited to bring you more leadership, career development, and occasional chaos - but we need your help to grow the show. Three Ways You Can Help: Share an Episode - If there's an episode you enjoyed, share it with one person who'd get a laugh or a takeaway. Seriously, this is the best way for us to reach new listeners.Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts - A five-star rating and e...
Send a text Episode 246: Christmas Parties, Career-Limiting Moments & Season Seven Wrap-Up Sacha's in her pyjamas in Raglan (it was Coffee Culture's "Oops, I'm at the Wrong Party" themed Christmas party a week ago, she's just still wearing them), while Ish is fresh off winning a dance-off at their ABBA vs Spice Girls costume showdown at music bingo. As they wrap season seven with 246 episodes, they dive into Christmas party culture, the "no free willy" pyjama party rules, and why being fi...
Send a text Episode 245 - Hustle Culture: Is Working Harder Still Worth It? Episode Summary Ish wins the Exercise New Zealand Award for Outstanding Contribution to the Fitness Industry (and wasn't even there!), while Sacha hustles across the South Island. This leads to a deep conversation about hustle culture, rise and grind mentality, and whether working harder actually gets you ahead anymore. Plus: AI end of the world chat, and why the younger generation wants their technology separat...
Send a text Midweek Mini - What's The One Thing For The Week? Why One Thing? – You have 52 opportunities in a year to get one thing nailed each week. Clarity breeds genius. Focus vs. Urgent – The one thing for the week isn't necessarily the most urgent thing—it's the meaningful longer-term thing that needs attention. The Exercise – Dump everything that needs doing on paper, then identify the overarching focus that sums up what success looks like for the next 7 days
Send a text The Not So Breakfast Show - Bad Words & Breaking Points Sometimes you reach the end. The absolute end. Sacha is moving house, dealing with impossible transactions, and has just discovered the movers left three massive items behind. Ish is surprisingly recharged from mini-breaks and witnessing his co-host process what happens when resilience runs out. This is a raw, real conversation about those moments when life is genuinely hard—and how to hold onto the "but it's worth it" p...
Send a text MWM: Hope Is Not a Strategy Every time you find yourself saying "I hope sales improve" or "I hope that changes," recognise that hope isn't a strategy - you're just gambling with other people's lives and your business outcomes. Join Ish and Sacha as they unpack this famous business school line (spoiler: Sacha didn't coin it, but she uses it brilliantly). The Recognition Tool: Every time you say "I hope..." ask yourself: Am I taking enough action?Hope is good - we need optimis...
Send a text The Working Genius Model Episode Overview Ish has just been certified in the Working Genius model and is excited to share this powerful framework for understanding team dynamics, project workflows, and personal energy. In this episode, he unpacks the model live with Sacha, who's just received her results and is wrestling with what it means to not be naturally gifted at something. Spoiler: it's not about skill, it's about what gives you energy and joy. Key Topics Discussed Underst...
Send a text The Core Question What conversation has been sitting in the back of your mind, taking up mental bandwidth? Why We Avoid Conversations Hoping it will just go awayFear of conflict or discomfortLack of preparationEmotional reactivity The Two Negative Outcomes of Delay Option 1: Extended delay Physical effects: not sleeping, overthinkingBuilds up exhaustionWhen you finally have it, you're depletedOption 2: React without preparation Have it while angry or unpreparedDon't get the outc...
Send a text Is It Good? Is It Bad? It Just Is: Lessons in Resilience Fresh off a 17-hour flight from New York and jetlagged beyond belief, Sacha joins Ish to talk about resilience, mental fortitude, and adapting when things go spectacularly wrong. This episode is raw, real, and packed with stories about handling crisis situations—from emergency room visits in New York to water landings in Fiji—and the lessons we can apply to workplace challenges. Key Topics Discussed Human Adaptation & R...
Send a text MID WEEK MINI: Check the Question Before You Answer Ever start talking and hope your brain catches up with your mouth? Yeah, we've all been there. Join Ish and Sacha as they share the power of the pause and the phrases that help you actually answer the question being asked (not the one you think you heard). Key Phrases to Have Ready: "Before I answer, let me check - are you primarily interested in X or Y?""Can I ask you to clarify?""Help me understand, are we talking about this......
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