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Jennifer Hyland is the Deputy Chief Constable for the newly created Surrey Police Service (SPS) in Canada.  A Canadian police veteran, Jennifer served for a municipal police agency and later joined the Royal Candian Mounted Police (RCMP).  She has served in a number of capacities. In January 2021, Jennifer Hyland was appointed as the first Deputy Chief Constable for the new Surrey Police Service.We talked about the evolution of the SPS, the planning, hiring, and staffing of a new agency for a municipality larger than Vancouver, Britsh Columbia.   Discussion surrounded running meetings, developing a culture of service, women in policing, and meeting the needs of a diverse community. Our conversation was interrupted by internet instability and we ended abruptly.  We will talk with DCC Hyland again soon.  The discussion on the efforts to create from scratch is impressive.  The department is beginning to send out SPS officers and over the next few years, the SPS will grow from 100 to over 800 sworn officers.  No policies are adapted from another agency.  instead, all policies are created from scratch!
Maureen McGough (Mc-Goff) is the Director of Strategic Initiatives for the Policing Project, a non-profit organization, at New York University Law School.  At the Policing Project Maureen (Mo) oversees national efforts to improve accountability and transparency in policing.  She joined the Policing Project after working with the National Police Foundation, where she led the non-profit’s research, training, and technical assistance efforts as Director of National Programs.Prior to joining the National Police Foundation, Maureen spent a decade with the federal government in various roles with the US Department of Justice and the US Department of State. She served as Senior Policy Advisor to the Director of the National Institute of Justice – the USDOJ’s research, development, and evaluation agency – where she led agency efforts to advance evidence-based policing, improve the representation of women in policing, and implement systems-level criminal justice reform initiatives. Additional federal experience includes serving as counsel on terrorism prevention to the Deputy Attorney General, Special Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, and coordinator for federal AIDS relief efforts through the U.S. Embassy in Kigali, Rwanda.Maureen is a member of the FBI’s Law Enforcement Education and Training Council, an executive board member for the American Society of Evidence-Based Policing, and is a recent public leadership executive fellow with the Brookings Institute.  Maureen is an attorney and earned her J.D. from the George Washington University Law School.
Dr. Dave Lambert is a retired Lieutenant from the Massachusetts State Police.  He is now the Associate Dean for the Justice System Training and Research Institute (JTSRI) at Roger Williams University, School of Justice Studies.  JSTRI provides training, and technical assistance,  collaborating on research projects.  The Command Series focuses on first-line supervisors, mid-managers, and executives from police, corrections, and probation agencies throughout New England.  While with the MSP, Dave served with the State Fire Marshal's Office, the Commonwealth Fusion Center, and in planning and research at MSP HQ.   We talked about the wide range of issues and positive developments with projects created by police agencies to improve services and collaborative community action to address social issues.  
Dr. Shane Kilcommins was the Head of the School of Law at the University of Limerick (UL).  Previously a professor at University College Cork, Shane now serves as the Executive Dean of Faculty Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences at UL. Dr. Kilcommins was instrumental in the relationship between the University of Limerick and the Garda College.  UL is responsible to accredit training modules for college credit. UL has accredited courses on Serious Crimes Investigations, Criminal Assets, and Human Rights.   
We talked with Dr. Michael Roberto, a Professor of Management and Leadership at Bryant University in Smithfield, RI.  He joined the tenured faculty at Bryant after serving on the faculty at Harvard Business School.Professor Roberto published Unlocking Creativity and wrote two previous books: Why Great Leaders Don't Take Yes For An Answer and Know What You Don’t Know.   Dr.  Professor Roberto also has created three audio/video lecture series for The Great Courses: The Art of Critical Decision Making, Transformational Leadership, and Critical Business Skills: Strategy.  Professor Roberto has taught in the leadership development programs and consulted at a number of firms including Mars, Deloitte, Google, Target, Apple, FedEx, Disney, Morgan Stanley, IBM, and Wal-Mart. He’s also presented at numerous government organizations including the FBI, NASA, Joint Special Operations Command, the Air War College, and West Point.  We talk about policing, leadership and mission. This was a great chat with a dynamic facilitator. #MikeRoberto #BryantUniversity #leadership #police #TheCopDocPodcast #SteveMorrele #WorcesterStateUniversity
Carmen Best is a U.S. Army veteran and a long-term officer and executive with the Seattle Police Department.  She worked in a number of positions, rising to become the first African- American police chief in Seattle.  Carmen worked to reform the police deptrtment under a Consent Decree and was involved in the response during the protesting and rioting follwoing the outrage from the George Floyd death in Minneapolis. We spoke about She is the author of Blck in Blue
Dr. Susanne Knabe-Nicol is a  police psychologist in the UK.  She is a lecturer at Middlesex University in London and the founder of the Poice Science Dr. She worked in policing for 10 years and has focused on translating research into digestible articles and videos so that the policing profession can make use of existing research, which is normally written in a dense manner. Synthesizing concepts, ideas and findings is her passion, allowing for potential utilization for police services.  Susanne often provides training programs, utilizing podcast and video streaming approaches.   We talked about the state of policing today, the value of research and areas to look for improvement. 
Sam Thiara is a leadership lecturer and leader coach affiliated with Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Sam is a writer and blogger, with a passion to inspire and motivate others in their personal and professional development through his many adventures and reflections on life’s journey.Since 2004, Sam began as a lecturer at the Beedie School of Business and Fraser International College at Simon Fraser University. Sam created a conversation skills workshop series to help students on their soft skills as this is vitally important to help international students transition.In 2011, Sam delivered a TEDx talk about ‘Discovering the Extraordinary in the Ordinary.’ This led to a published book on personal storytelling and helping the reader build their story-voice.Sam completed his master’s degree in Leadership Studies at the University of Exeter in England, a double major in Business Administration and Political Science from SFU, completed a certificate in Life Coaching from Cambridge University, a community leadership program through Leadership Vancouver, a Human Resources certificate from BCIT, and adult education certification with Vancouver Community College.Sam consistently strives to discover the extraordinary in the ordinary and his journey is documented at His favorite saying and what he lives by: “Everyone’s life is an autobiography…make yours worth reading!” “Leave a lasting impression, not just a footprint.”We talk about the leadership journey in policing.  
Dr. Shawna Coxon is the Deputy Commissioner of An Garda Siochana, Ireland's National Police.  Shawna served with the Toronto Police Service, where she served for 26 years and rose to the rank of Deputy Chief where she led three commands at different times. Most recently, she was in charge of the Human Resources Command, which is comprised of three functions: People and Culture, Corporate Risk Management and the Hearings Office. This Command is responsible for driving the progressive hiring, training, discipline and development of Service members. Prior to that, she led the Priority Response Command followed by the Communities and Neighbourhoods Command. There she oversaw the reactive and proactive policing response of all 16 police divisions in the City of Toronto. These two commands include all front-line policing, community and neighbourhood policing, as well as the investigation functions at Toronto’s police divisions. They also include the Service’s Operations Centre, 911 Communications, Traffic Services, the Parking Enforcement Unit and Court Services. Deputy Coxon has had a diverse career working in many areas of policing including child abuse, sex crimes, human rights, professional standards, community response, vice, intelligence and national security. She was a proud member of the Transformational Task Force and is also well known for having implemented Service’s inaugural Computer Cyber Crime (C3) Section. She was chosen for both of these initiatives because she has led numerous enterprise-wide innovation projects. Shawna Coxon has a B.A.(Hons) in Psychology,  an M.A. in Criminology, and a Ph.D. in Law. from the University of Leicester in the UK.  She has published and lectured extensively around the world.  She has been an adjunct professor at the University of Guelph-Humber for fourteen years. As Depuy Commissioner for the Garda, Shawna is responsible for Governance, Transformation, and Strategic Planning. 
Dr. Lavery is Chair and Professor for Pace University’s Criminal Justice & Security. She has two forthcoming books on officer wellness and sociopolitical risks in agencies. She has published in: Frontiers, Journal of Behavioral. Health, and Journal of Law Enforcement. Her research includes officer wellness and resiliency, IPV, sex crimes, humane criminology, social media & violent crime, and human trafficking. Dr: Lavery regularly appears on radio and television news shows for commentary on criminal justice issues. Cathy was previously the Chair of the Criminal Justice Department at Iona College. Dr. Lavery received her Ph.D. in Criminal Justice, specializing in Forensic Psychology and Ethics from the Graduate Center at the City University of New York. She is a certified mediator with the New York ABA.Dr. Lavery serves on various advisory boards and currently consults on issues of Title IX and sexual discrimination, cultural sensitivity, and trauma.We talk about officer wellness, the impact of Social-Political Risk in Criminal Justice, and the value of exposing students and officers to options for enhancing wellness.   
Larry Forletta is a former local police officer, Maryland State Trooper, and Special Agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration. he is now the creator and host of the Forletta Investigates Podcast.  He is the owner of Forletta Investigative/Security Consultants in the Pittsburgh area.We talked about his experience in local and state police before signing on to the DEA.  The interview focused on DEA investigations, policing, and private investigations.   
Ginny McKenna is a retired police officer from the United Kingdom.  She worked for 8 years in England and resigned after feeling harassed and losing her zeal for policing.  She seriously contemplated suicide and stopped her decision to die because of her care for her dog, at the last minute.  After several years, she decided to return to policing in Scotland, having to return to the police academy.  She retired and began her quest to become a life coach.  She has chosen to focus on police officers in distress. Our discussion revolves around serving as a woman in policing, the trauma that one can experience while on the job, and her focus on police officers across the Globe.  
Dr. Darl Champion, Sr. is a tenured professor within the School of Public Affairs at Methodist University in North Carolina.  Darl served in the U.S. Army Military Police Corps and the U.S. Army C.I.D.  He began his teaching career with Fayetteville Community College. In 1997, Dr. Champion was named the Outstanding Instructor at Fayetteville Technical Community College; in 1988 he was named the Margaret Lange Willis Outstanding Educator in North Carolina. In 2004 he was named Professor of the Year at Methodist University.  Dr. Champion has been a long-term member of the Academy of Criminal Justice Science, the American Society of Criminology, the American Society for Public Administration, and the American Society of Industrial Security.  He served ten years as a member of the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission and is currently a member of the governing board of the Carolina’s Institute for Community Policing. He has worked with a number of agencies and we spoke about the changes in policing and the history of policing.  We discussed the legacy of August Vollmer, who has been called the father of American policing.  We also discussed the challenges in policing and teaching in Criminal Justice programs using an andragogical approach. 
In our second session with Chief Norris, we continue our candid and wide-ranging chat. We talk about police culture, leadership development, training, standards, and police reform.  David Norris is the Police Chief for the Menlo Park, CA Police Department.  He had a long career with the San Mateo Police, rising to the rank of Captain.  An east coast, Boston area transplant, Dave played baseball in high school and college, and later played in minor league baseball with affiliated teams for the St. Louis Cardinals after being drafted as a pitcher.   In his new job, he has faced a reduction in force due to Covid budget cuts.   Tags: Dave NorrisMenlo Park PoliceThe CopDoc PodcastSteve MorrealepolicingSan Mateo Police
Steve Gould is a sergeant with the Leverett, MA Police Department.  A Massachusetts native, he served as a Conservation Officer on Cape Cod, then spent 10 years as a full-time police officer in Eastham, Police Department on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. In a leap of faith, he packed up his family and belongings to travel to the west coast, landing a job as a civilian police background investigator with the City of Los Angeles, focused on conducting background investigations for police officers.  During his time there, he was hearing stories from LAPD veterans and got the idea to record the stories, leading to his creation and hosting of the Things Police See Podcast. Steve returned to Massachusetts, starting back in policing in the small town of Leverett, near the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, in Western Massachusetts. We talk about policing, differences in policing approach and culture between the east and west coast, small-town policing, police reform, and podcasting.  An interesting chat, with a practitioner.   
Ivonne Roman is a veteran of the Newark, NJ Police  Department, retiring as Chief of Police.  She is a doctoral candidate at  Rutgers University in Camden, NJ.  Ivonne lives in Central New Jersey and was instrumental in the development of the 30x30 Project, working with NIJ and later the Policing Project at NYU School of Law. aimed at raising the number of women to 30% by 2030.  We spoke about women in policing, the difficulties of acceptance of women in policing from the 70s to the 90s, evidence-based approaches to policing, and the community relations in Newark, NJ. 
Danny Murphy started working in community advocacy in his native New Orleans, LA.  He accepted a job as a Compliance Manager after the New Orleans Police were placed under a consent Decree with the U.S. Department of Justice.  He was promoted to Deputy Superintendent for Compliance with the NOPD. He later moved to the Baltimore Police Department as Deputy Commissioner of the Compliance Unit.  After seven years in Compliance, he is now a consultant to a number of larger police agencies in the USA.   
Bruce O'Brien is an Assistant Commissioner with the New Zealand Police.  He is now responsible for the National Intelligence, Evidence-based Policing, and Roads Policing. A 20+ year veteran with the NZP, Bruce is pursuing a doctorate through the Canterbury Christ Church University.  We spoke about policing, the issues in policing in New Zealand and across the Globe, innovation, the New Zealand Evidence-based Policing Center, technology, police legitimacy, and leadership.Bruce can be reached by email at  #Leadership #Leadershipdevelopment #Evidencebasedpolicing #NewZealandPolice #BruceO'Brien #SteveMorreale #TheCopDoc Podcast # policing #lawenforcement #WorcesterStateUniversity
In our second session with Dr. George Reed, we discuss toxic, destructive leadership. Dr.  Reed now serves as Dean at the School of Public Policy at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs.  A U.S. Army military veteran, George retired as a Colonel in the Military Police Corps.  George had assignments that included MP posts, Criminal Investigation Command (CIC, formerly CID) leadership posts, and correctional facility posts.  His last assignment was as a faculty member of leadership studies at the Army War College in Carlisle, PA.Dr. Reed also worked at the University of San Diego focused on leadership studies.  Our chat focused on toxic leadership, relationships, looking for experiences and literature from outside of policing and their value for police organizations. 
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