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Author: Blake Chastain

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Exploring the world inside and outside the evangelical subculture, one conversation at a time.

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Josie Jimenez

Josie Jimenez

2021-06-1854:05

This week's guest is IMG's very own Josie Jimenez! Josie is the co-host of Irreverent Media Group's Making Spaces podcast as well as the podcast Speaking in Church. We talked on a Sunday afternoon and things got a little silly, talking about Josie's life, why expecting people to be the same is so damn boring, and all sorts of other stuff. Listen to Making Spaces with Josie Jimenez & Rev. Sarah Heath. Listen to Speaking in Church with Josie Jimenez & Spencer Rose Taylor. Follow Josie on Instagram & Twitter. Support Exvangelical, Powers & Principalities, and all of Blake's projects by subscribing to The Post-Evangelical Post. Follow Blake on Twitter & the show on Instagram. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Emily Joy Allison returns to Exvangelical to talk about #SBC21, the recent departures of Beth Moore & Russell Moore (no relation) from the denomination, and her own direct action through protest. We also discuss the conservative resurgence in other denominations, how the media (and post-evangelicals of all stripes online) discuss bad theology, and how to respond to these types of conservative initiatives. This was recorded on Tuesday, June 15th 2021 and was not edited because the events we're discussing are timely and in-flux. You can follow Emily on Twitter @emilyjoypoetry. Buy her book, Church Too: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain. Support this podcast directly through a paid subscription to The Post-Evangelical Post. This is an Irreverent Media Group podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week I'm publishing an episode of fellow Irreverent Media Group podcaster Kevin Garcia's show A Tiny Revolution. It's Pride Month and ATR is running a special series in conjunction with Beloved Arise. Listen to this episode featuring an interview with Blake Mundell to learn more about Beloved Arise. Subscribe to A Tiny Revolution anywhere you listen to podcasts, and follow Kevin on Instagram & Twitter. Kevin (they/them) describes ATR like this: "Because all revolutions begin as conversations between friends. Join digital pastor and soul coach Kevin Garcia for a conversation that actually matters. Covering the intersections of spirit, sexuality, gender, and justice, Kevin curates convos with the brightest and most incredible humans that you may or may not have heard of, with delicious takes on faith, sexuality, practice, and how we do this life together."  Learn more about the Irreverent Media Group line-up at irreverent.fm or by following @irreverent_fm on Instagram. Follow Blake on Twitter, and support the show directly at postevangelicalpost.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This episode is a re-release of my first interview with Mark Russell, author of several books including Second Coming, God is Disappointed in You, Apocrypha Now!, The Flintstones, Snagglepuss, Wonder Twins, Billionaire Island, and more. Superhero movies are returning to theaters soon, and I'm resurfacing this conversation because I think of it a lot when I think of superhero narratives in general. Mark Russell is one of my favorite comic book writers, whose ability to provide satirical and insightful social commentary through popular characters like The Flintstones, or subvert superhero tropes in books like The Wonder Twins sets him apart from other writers on the scene. Of particular interest to listeners of this show, he also writes the comic book Second Coming - a story of Jesus coming back to Earth to room with a Superman-type character. The mere announcement of this book was so 'controversial' that it led to an online petition that quite literally canceled the book before it was published by DC Comics. I talked to Mark about that book in particular in this episode: Mark Russell, author of Second Coming. I wrote about it here. - If you appreciate this show, support it via a paid subscription to The Post-Evangelical Post. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain and follow the podcast @exvangelicalpod on Twitter & Instagram. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week's guest is Beth Allison Barr, author of the new book The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. I'm joined by two guest co-hosts, Emily Autenrieth and Laura Navarro. The theology and practice of complementarianism in conservative Christian circles has shaped the lives of millions of women. For over a century, it has oppressed women and become a requirement for involvement and belonging in conservative churches. Dr. Barr's expertise in church history illustrates that - despite the claims of complementarianism's proponents - this is a newer understanding of Christian history and scripture, and not an unchanging, millennia-long orthodox belief. This is a book that will spur conversation inside and outside the church. You can purchase the book here or from A Seat at the Table Books. Follow Dr. Barr on Twitter: @bethallisonbarr Order books from A Seat at the Table Books. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain, and follow the podcast on Twitter & Instagram @exvangelicalpod. This episode was produced by Jake Lewis. Thank you, Jake! Exvangelical is part of Irreverent Media Group. Learn more at irreverent.fm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rev. Lenny Duncan

Rev. Lenny Duncan

2021-04-1601:01:19

This week's guest is Rev. Lenny Duncan. Lenny is a pastor and the author of two books: Dear Church: A Love Letter from a Black Preacher to the Whitest Denomination in the US, and the forthcoming United States of Grace: A Memoir of Homelessness, Addiction, Incarceration, and Hope. In this conversation we talk about Rev. Duncan's life, his books, Christianity in America, and America overall. Please note there were some technical difficulties with this recording. Follow Lenny on Twitter and visit unitedstatesofgrace.com. Follow Blake on Twitter, subscribe to his newsletter, and visit his website. Exvangelical is part of the Irreverent Media Group. Visit irreverent.fm to see all the other shows. Buy Exvangelical merch here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Exvangelical is now a part of the Irreverent Media Group! Visit irreverent.fm to learn more about this new collective. Follow Irreverent on social: twitter.com/irreverent_fm instagram.com/irreverent_fm facebook.com/irreverentfm Are you a creator that wants to join IMG, or an advertiser looking for sponsorship opportunities? Email us at irreverentfm@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Anthea Butler returns to the show (she was a guest on season one of Powers & Principalities) to discuss her new book, White Evangelical Racism. Her book is of utmost importance to helping us understand both our past and our current moment. We discuss the history of white evangelical racism, and how it played a part in the Jan 6th insurrection and the murders in Atlanta in March 2021. I also wrote about the book in my new series, The Good Books, published via my newsletter The Post-Evangelical Post. Help support the show directly via a paid subscription to the newsletter. (Free tiers are also available.) Stay tuned for more news about the show next week! This interview was recorded on 3/19/2021. Follow Dr. Butler on Twitter @AntheaButler. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain, and follow the show on Instagram @exvangelicalpod. This episode was produced and edited by Jake Lewis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Emily Joy Allison returns to the show to discuss her new book, #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing. Emily launched the #ChurchToo hashtag in November 2017 and it has taken on a life of its own, calling churches to account. You can follow Emily on Twitter and Instagram. I'm also joined by guest co-host Amy Congdon, a clinical mental health counselor in the Kansas City, MO metro area whos work focuses on providing care to clients who have experienced religious trauma and seek to find healing from these wounds. This includes concerns around sex and sexuality, gender, reproductive rights, and racial injustice. I wrote about #ChurchTooBook in a new series for my newsletter called The Good Books. Subscribe to my newsletter, The Post-Evangelical Post, here. There are free and paid options; Substack is currently the main source of support for this show. I also wrote about the role of purity culture in the shootings in Atlanta here, and included some comments made by Emily. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain. Follow the show on Instagram @exvangelicalpod. This episode was produced by Jake Lewis. Thank you, Jake! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, I chat with Andrew Phelan and John Potter from Magnified Pod. Their show focuses on Tooth & Nail era Christian alt music - season 1 focused on the MXPX discography, and season 2 focused on Five Iron Frenzy. In this conversation, we learn about Andrew & John's stories, the power of music and memory even after our beliefs change, and what it was like becoming friends with Five Iron band members. Check out their podcast here, follow them on Twitter @magnifiedpod, and support them on Patreon! Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain, follow the show on Instagram @exvangelicalpod, and support him via Substack at postevangelicalpost.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Laura Polk returns to the show to discuss the Jan 6th insurrection and the Religious Right. In particular, we discuss three pivotal events in 1980, and how they set the stage for much of what's followed. This interview was recorded on 2/7/2021. Laura Polk is an independent educator and researcher. You can support her via Patreon here. (I do!)  Follow Laura on Twitter @seelolago. You can support Blake's work on Exvangelical and Powers & Principalities via Substack at The Post-Evangelical Post. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain and the show on Instagram at @exvangelicalpod. This episode was produced by Jake Lewis. Thank you, Jake! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
IRL with Chris Stedman

IRL with Chris Stedman

2021-02-0401:11:16

Chris Stedman is a Minneapolis-based writer, speaker, and community organizer. In this conversation, we discuss his book IRL: Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our Digital Lives, how people form and express their identities online, spirituality "fads," and much more! (This conversation was recorded on January 4th, 2021, two days before the insurrection and the rest of the country went topsy turvy.) Follow Chris on Twitter! Support this podcast (and sister podcast Powers & Principalities) through a paid subscription to Blake's newsletter, The Post-Evangelical Post. Follow Blake on Twitter and Instagram. Get Exvangelical podcast merch, featuring the new logo, here. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It's 2021.  Ossoff & Warnock won the Senate, and the next day Trump supporters stormed the Capitol Building after being incited by the President himself and encouraged by Senators Cruz and Hawley. 5 people died.  White evangelicalism bears much of the burden for this by creating an environment--over decades!--that encouraged this.  This episode is only partly scripted. It's unedited. "Regular" programming will return soon. Follow me on Twitter @brchastain. Help support my work: postevangelicalpost.substack.com or patreon.com/exvangelicalpod.  Show Notes/Recent writing:  https://postevangelicalpost.substack.com/p/the-culmination-of-white-evangelicalchristian https://postevangelicalpost.substack.com/p/how-should-we-then-live-with-evangelical Twitter thread, before the white supremacist storming of the Capitol: https://twitter.com/brchastain/status/1346452589752307712?s=20 Mel's short thread I quoted: https://twitter.com/holyqueerit/status/1347191675706372097?s=20 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
My guests for this episode are The Dirty Rotten Church Kids, aka Josh Link & Adrian Gibbs. The DRCK has taken exvangelical Instagram by storm over the past year, and their podcast has created its own community that is in their words, equal parts HEAVY and LIGHT. In this conversation we discuss their backgrounds as church kids, church planters, their deconstruction, and parenting. It's a great conversation and I hope you enjoy it.  Follow DRCK on Instagram, subscribe to their podcast, and check out their merch.   This episode was produced by Jake Lewis. Thank you, Jake! -- HAVE YOU NOTICED THE NEW PODCAST ARTWORK? It's by the incredible artist Jenna Luecke. Please read my Instagram post about the process and check out her amazing work. You can also find merch with two versions of the new logo on the new Exvangelical Podcast Merch store! Support the show via a paid subscription to The Post-Evangelical Post newsletter, or by rating the show in Apple Podcasts. Follow Blake on Twitter, and find links to all his projects at blakechastain.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the season 1 finale of Powers & Principalities, I speak with Reza Aslan about what we've learned about the United States in the past four years. In particular, we discuss what it means that 70 million Americans voted for Trump to be re-elected, the cult-like characteristics of Trumpism, the 'geography of identity' of Trumpism, the role of the media, and much more. Reza Aslan is author of several books, including God: A Human History, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth, and Beyond Fundamentalism. He is also Professor of Creative Writing at the University of California, Riverside and executive producer of Rough Draft with Reza Aslan and the CNN documentary series, Believer. Stay tuned after the interview for more info on season 2 of Powers & Principalities. Follow Reza on Twitter @rezaaslan and learn more about his work at rezaaslan.com. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain and Instagram @brchastain_.  Support Blake's work via a subscription to The Post-Evangelical Post newsletter - use this link to save 40% for 1 year thru 12/2! Other methods of support can be found at exvangelicalpodcast.com/support. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, I speak with Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family (which was turned into a Netflix documentary series of the same name). We discuss the actions of President Trump and the GOP to undermine the results of the election, the role of QAnon, "police nationalism," and much more. Read Jeff Sharlet's missives from the Trump campaign rallies in Vanity Fair and follow him on Twitter. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain, and follow him on Instagram @brchastain_. Support the show with a subscription to The Post-Evangelical Post. Free and paid tiers are available. Other methods of support can be found here. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Prof. Bradley Onishi from Straight White American Jesus returns to the show to discuss Election Week. We discuss the historical significance of the election of Vice President Kamala Harris, the decisive victory of Joe Biden & the GOP's refusal to concede, and what comes next.  Follow Brad on Twitter @BradleyOnishi and listen to Straight White American Jesus if you aren't already! Follow Blake @brchastain on Twitter & @brchastain_ on Instagram. Support the show via a subscription to The Post-Evangelical Post, or other methods found at exvangelicalpodcast.com/support. This episode was produced by Jake Lewis. Thank you, Jake! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
6 Days Later (2020)

6 Days Later (2020)

2020-11-0908:19

Some initial thoughts on the 2020 Election. Acknowledging what was accomplished, and the work that still needs to be done. Follow Blake on Twitter and subscribe to The Post-Evangelical Post, where you will find a corresponding transcript, along with some additional links. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
We're one day out until the November 3rd election. In this brief episode, Blake reviews this season's guests and the threats that remain regardless of the outcome of election day. If you haven't voted early, please make your plan to vote and make your voice heard. Use the Vote Save America to make your plan to vote. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
My guest this week is Jack Jenkins, national reporter for Religion News Service and author of the book American Prophets: The Religious Roots of Progressive Politics and the Ongoing Fight for the Soul of the Country (Amazon, Bookshop). We discuss how one defines "the religious left," how the religious left differs from the religious right, the historical predecessors of the current religious left, and how the media has adapted to covering religion since the 2016 election. Follow Jack Jenkins on Twitter @JackMJenkins. Follow Blake on Twitter @brchastain and on Instagram at @brchastain_.  Support Exvangelical and Powers & Principalities with a paid subscription to The Post-Evangelical Post on Substack - you can also subscribe for free! All content is free through the election. This episode was produced by Jake Lewis.  --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/exvangelical/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Comments (7)

Gus Mujica

Love it. Thanks for sharing , can't wait to see "series".

May 24th
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Jack Syme

where are the references to the books that was said would be in the show notes?

Feb 13th
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Christa Knox

Side note, do you ever talk about the "clap offering"? 😂

Aug 4th
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Christa Knox

All these bands are bringing back memories! 😂 Carmen was my first concert also, at Summit '94, a national youth conference in Los Angeles. And of course I saw DC Talk and Jars of Clay in high school. Love the Jars of Clay album... Still listen to it occasionally. 😊 Loving the pod content! Thanks!

Aug 3rd
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Christa Knox

Omg in 5th grade my homeschool group learned choreography to Amy Grant's Baby Baby! 🙈 We even performed it in a parade... 😂

Aug 2nd
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Emily Stamp

former evangelical - former Anglican - sorta still catholic - mainly confused - listener here... correction: Catholic church holds that Peter was the first pope. not Paul. thank you for these conversations. just diving in.

Mar 20th
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