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What We Talk About When We Talk About Tech

Author: Rich Gall & Jennifer Riggins

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A podcast about tech storytelling. Jennifer Riggins and Rich Gall explore the way words and narratives shape the technology landscape with the people who define, explain, and sell it.
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Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk with the CEO of OpenUK Amanda Brock about the role of open technology in the UK's tech industry and wider economy. Amanda explains the work of Open UK and highlights some of the work the organisation does to promote open technology. She also discusses exactly why this work matters so much, and suggests that the UK doesn't always do as good a job as it could in talking about the extent to which it contributes to the global communit...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk with digital anthropologist Caitlin McDonald about what it means to be a digital anthropologist and why it matters in helping us to understand the way we build and use technology today. Caitlin begins by talking through how her work intersects with questions of agency and digital literacy, providing some useful context on how perceptions and understanding about what techbology does and how it's made can have an impact on the...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk with Sarah Drinkwater, the Director of Responsible Technology at Omidyar Networks to discuss how we can cultivate organisations and people that will enable a more equitable, responsible - and ultimately compassionate and exciting - technological future. We talk about the challenges the tech industry faces, and why it can be difficult to talk about responsibility and ethics. Sarah explains how the work she does at Omidyar Net...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk to privacy advocate Michelle Wolfe (aka "Stella" on Twitter) about the challenges of security and privacy in today's increasingly sinister landscape of surveillance capitalism. Taking in key terms (including the monstrosity that is "cyber"), and looking closely at some of the limits and flaws in the conversation around online security, Michelle/Stella explains how she approaches her work and why she thinks we need to reevalu...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk to Lorinda Brandon and Mike Amundsen about APIs and the evolution of the tech industry in the last 30 years in a very special episode - the first to feature two guests. We discussed issues of equality in the industry, in particular how 'women in tech' has emerged only in recent years - Lorinda offers her perspective on what it was like working as a woman in tech in the eighties, and also explains what frustrates her about th...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) are joined by Saron Yitbarek, Founder and CEO of audio learning platform Disco and co-host of the brilliant Command Line Heroes podcast, to discuss the virtues of audio learning in age of excessive screen time and the importance of highlighting the stories of the people that have shaped the technology and software landscape today. Saron talks about her background and some of the challenges she faced when starting out in the softw...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk to Yin Mei, Director of Strategy and Curriculum Design at Per Scholas about her career and background in psychology in this special episode that went out live on Chubhouse. In the conversation Yin talks about her journey into the field, and how she developed an interest in technology from a young age as a child of Chinese immigrants in Minnesota, and explains how she moved from an academic background in psychology into tech traini...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk with the "sickeningly entertaining" coding drag queen Anna Lytical about drag, software development, and the LGBTQ+ community in tech. Anna discusses how they found their way into the tech industry and explains how they gradually discovered a way of bringing their love of software engineering, drag, and performing together. They also describe the journey from starting out making videos on YouTube, to building a huge audience of le...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk with Jessica Rose, a DevRel at CodeSee and advocate for improving access to technical education and the tech industry, about burnout, impostor syndrome and the challenges of learning the skills needed to navigate a fast-paced and occasionally hostile industry. Jessica talks about her role at CodeSee, a developer tool currently in its 'stealth' phase, and explains why its such an exciting project to work on, and explain...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk to author, software architect, and meme wrangler at ThoughtWorks about the importance of storytelling, language and communication in his worker as both a consultant and an educator. Neal discusses his career in tech publishing, with 8 books already under his belt (the most recent being The Fundamentals of Software Architecture, published in January 2020), and explains what makes it so challenging but so vital in today's saturated ...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk with Nikema Prophet, Community Marketing Manager at Armory, about how she fought her way into tech. Nikema recounts the ups and downs of getting started in the industry, including the challenges she faced as a founder, and discusses some of the benefits and drawbacks of going through a bootcamp route. We talk in depth about Lambda school and Nikema gives her perspective, providing useful insights for anyone interested in taking...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk to Matt Broberg, Managing Editor of Red hat's Enable Architect publication, about how Red Hat uses content and storytelling to support and engage with a broad community of software architects, engineers and sysadmins. Matt talks about how he got into content marketing and editorial after starting his career working with databases and servers, and also explains how his time in college - where he studied the interesting combin...
Rich Gall (@richggall) and Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) talk to Dmitry Vinnik, an Open Source Developer Advocate at Facebook, about how he helps to enable developers around the world make use of the social media company's hundreds of open source projects. In the episode Dmitry discusses how Covid has impacted his work as a developer advocate, including what he misses about in-person events and what he prefers about remote conferences, and explains how he puts together content that's r...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk with Abadesi Osunsade, the founder and CEO of Hustle Crew, VP of Global Community and Belonging at Brandwatch, and co-host of the podcast Techish, among many other things. Abadesi explains how she found her way into the industry and explains how her experiences led her to fopund HustleCrew, an organization designed to help organizations improve diversity and equality in their workforce and empower people from marginalized co...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk to the former Editor in Chief of VentureBeat, Dylan Tweney, about tech journalism and the role it plays in the industry. Covering a history of tech journalism over the last two decades, from the days of print through to SEO- and social media-friendly content, this episode looks closely at how the way we cover and explore technology has changed. Dylan offers their thoughts on some of the limitations of the current digital media ec...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk to Jana Boruta, Director of Global Events and Experiential Marketing at Hashicorp, about experiential marketing and how the events sector has adapted to the Coronavirus pandemic She explains how she and her team worked to make HashiConf digital-only, and discusses how a year of isolation gave her the opportunity to launch her own conference - EpicConf. We also discuss the role of events more broadly in the tech industry, an...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk to Austin Gunter, Director of Marketing at Shoreline, an automation tool for cloud operations teams, about marketing early stage startups and building a go-to-market plan. Austin talks about his (perhaps accidental) niche as 'the first marketer in the door' at a number of DevOps startups, including Gremlin, and explains how he goes about immersing himself in a new company. He also discusses the importance of understanding c...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk to Mandy Moore, the producer and show manager of Greater Than Code - "a podcast that highlights the human side of technology" - as well as a range of other awesome podcasts. In this episode Mandy discusses her journey into the tech industry, including her first job working with Avdi Grimm, and explains why she thinks podcasting plays such an important role in the field, in helping the world talk about tech. She also highligh...
Jennifer Riggins (@jkriggins) and Rich Gall (@richggall) talk to Wesley Faulkner, DevRel at Daily, about how Developer Relations became a critical part of the software industry. Wesley gives his perspective of the history of DevRel, and provides a practical perspective on what it involves day-to-day - from support, to documentation, to social media. He also talks about why he loves doing DevRel for Daily, and how he works alongside the rest of the team to build and engage a community o...
Rich Gall and Jennifer Riggins talk to Mark Boyd, founder of Platformable, an organization that helps governments and businesses develop tools and ecosystems that encourage participation. Mark talks about Platformable, explaining why it exists and how it works. He highlights some of the obstacles to building open ecosystems, and why he believes so passionately in their ability to engage people. His experience in policymaking in Australia, particularly in HIV and AIDs care, under...
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