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Upside Down Podcast is an ecumenical podcast at the intersection of justice, spirituality, and culture. Join us for conversations about God's Upside Down Kingdom. No topic is off limits. Upside Down Podcast is a collaborative Christian podcast co-founded by Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace. Some of our most popular guests have included Christena Cleveland, Dr. John Perkins, Shane Claiborne, Jo Saxton, Father Greg Boyle, Shannan Martin, and Dominique Gilliard. Popular episodes have featured the enneagram, gentrification, nonviolence, vocations and callings, immigration, and more. Upside Down is proud to be an ecumenical podcast, bridging the gap between Catholic and Protestant thought. Visit www.upsidedownpodcast.com or follow us on Instagram at @upsidedownpodcast.
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In this episode on the Necessity of Advent, Alissa Molina hosts and is joined by Kayla Craig, Lindsy Wallace and Patty Taylor to discuss Advent as the season quickly approaches. They bring tired and weary hearts, minds, and bodies to flesh out: Awe as it relates to the Word becoming Flesh The reminder that God is near us even if sometimes he feels far The reminder of the tenderness of God that is near the broken The vulnerability of God becoming human The danger in commodifying Jesus Thinking about how we can be intentional in our preparation for the birth of Jesus  Exploring Advent as the time of Now and Not Yet Preparing for advent in asking: where has God been faithful this year, where have I lamented this year, where are we practicing joyful hope.Recommended Reading and ResourcesJohn 1:14  "And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us,and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth."Sharifa Stevens on Twitter (https://twitter.com/sharifawrites) Kat Armas on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/kat_armas/)https://www.christianity.com/christian-life/christmas/what-is-advent.htmlQuotes"We think Jesus came in flesh to teach us to about divinity but in reality, Jesus came to teach us how to be man." -- Richard Rohr"God didn’t just tell us to love our neighbors, he became one." -- Kat Armas“Advent symbolizes the present situation of the church in these “last days” (Acts 2:17, Hebrews 1:2), as God’s people wait for the return of Christ in glory to consummate his eternal kingdom. The church is in a similar situation to Israel at the end of the Old Testament: in exile, waiting and hoping in prayerful expectation for the coming of the Messiah. Israel looked back to God’s past gracious actions on their behalf in leading them out of Egypt in the Exodus, and on this basis, they called for God once again to act for them. In the same way, the church, during Advent, looks back upon Christ’s coming in celebration while at the same time looking forward in eager anticipation to the coming of Christ’s kingdom when he returns for his people.”News, Notes, and Links:Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!We’re on Instagram too. (https://www.instagram.com/upsidedownpodcast/)Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
What does it mean for the church to be a witness? What do our 21st-century sensibilities miss about Jesus’ 1st-century sociopolitical relevance? In this episode of Upside Down Podcast, Lindsy Wallace and Patricia Taylor process a conversation with author and professor Drew G.I. Hart about the revolutionary life of Jesus and the ways in which we can usher in his peace for our world.In this episode, we:Consider what it looks like to follow after the way of Jesus in 2020 Lean into the local church as community in the building and in the streetsWiden the experience of Jesus to a political JesusAre challenged to see peace as a disruptor to violenceLean into the power of the embodied, costly, revolutionary love of JesusJoin us as Drew walks us through his experience of the things that make for peace. Let us set aside our 21st Century sensibilities so we may enter into Jesus’ first century. May we hold his socio-political relevance to the light of day and let it shine through in such a way we put his revolutionary teachings to make a Beloved community today. Recommended reading & resources:Who Will Be a Witness - Drew Hart198 Methods of Nonviolent ActionDrew G. I. Hart OnlineDrew Hart on InstagramDrew Hart on TwitterDrew Hart on FacebookQuotes: “The call of Jesus is really quite simple, despite how complicated we have made it by obfuscating that basic Christian vocation. Follow after the way of Jesus.” News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Upside Down Podcast brings together women (and sometimes a few good men) for unscripted ecumenical conversations about God's upside-down kingdom. We're four women from across the US spanning age, denomination, race, culture, and background. We care deeply about the love of God and neighbor and explore themes of the intersections of faith and justice, with a bit of prophetic imagination. We come together as ordinary humans modeling tough conversations so you can be inspired to continue these conversations offline with your local community. In a time when many Christians are deconstructing their faith, we hope to be a welcoming space where people can be curious, learn, connect, and grow into the beloved community.Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
What is the importance of community? Patricia Taylor hosts and is joined by Kayla Craig, Lindsy Wallace and Alissa Molina for this episode of examining what community is today. Pull up a seat at our table in the wilderness as we ask each other how community in the time of Jesus can influence an upside-down life today.In this episode, we:Assess the impact of the pandemic on local and virtual communitiesWeigh our desire for community against our dream of it Look at how intimate community should be when it’s toxicWonder if it’s possible to return to a community that has inflicted painEnvision a thriving community that laments and celebrates togetherGet honest about an expectation of community in our livesJoin us as we unpack how to intentionally find a community that is from an abundant God and explore with us how to engage in and foster such an environment. May we enter each space with more grace and more love and make space for those who may be searching for their people and their place too. Recommended reading & resources:Life Together, Dietrich BonhoefferLindsy Wallace on InstagramActs 2:42-47 ESV  And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. And awe came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. And all who believed were together and had all things in common.  And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.Hebrews 10:24-25 ESV And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.Matthew 10:14 ESV And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town.Quotes: “The person who loves their dream of community will destroy community, but the person who loves those around them will create community.”  Dietrich Bonhoeffer“We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.” James Baldwin"The greatness of a community is most accurately measured by the compassionate actions of its members... a heart of grace and a soul generated by love." Coretta Scott KingNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Why is it necessary to vote with our neighbors in mind? Lisa Sharon Harper joins all of the Upside Down Podcast co-hosts for this episode. Lisa is the author of The Very Good Gospel and founder and president of FreedomRoad.us, a consulting group dedicated to shrinking the narrative gap in our nation by designing forums and experiences that bring common understanding, common commitment, and common action. She is a prolific speaker, writer, and activist and a prophetic voice for our time. In this episode, we:Jump right in to ask Lisa what voting means to her Unpack how voting is an exercise in dominion that serves and protectsOpen the one-issue party discussion and learn history and impacts of current, controversial Supreme Court rulings Hear why “clarity is necessary” for Lisa in this electionConsider how Jesus ‘voted’ with the most marginalized in mindJoin us as we consider what is at stake with this election. May we be followers of Jesus, under the rule of God, and vote for the benefit of all humanity created in the image of God.Recommended reading & resources:The Very Good Gospel by Lisa Sharon HarperI Think You’re Wrong but I’m Listening by Sarah and Beth of Pantsuit PoliticsProphetic Imagination by Walter BrueggemanThe Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor by Kaitlyn Schiess Thou Shalt Not Be A Jerk by Eugene ChoAND Campaign LSH's On Why She’s Voting for Biden [IGTV]Upside Down Podcast brings together women (and sometimes a few good men) for unscripted ecumenical conversations about God's upside-down kingdom. We're four women from across the US spanning age, denomination, race, culture, and background. We care deeply about the love of God and neighbor and explore themes of the intersections of faith and justice, with a bit of prophetic imagination. We come together as ordinary humans modeling tough conversations so you can be inspired to continue these conversations offline with your local community. In a time when many Christians are deconstructing their faith, we hope to be a welcoming space where people can be curious, learn, connect, and grow into the beloved community.News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
We know that God created everything that is Good, True and Beautiful. How in times like these, with so much that feels so heavy, hurtful and even downright ugly, can we find what is beautiful and in turn find the Divine?Growing up in Missouri as the son of Nigerian immigrants, the life of Ike Ndolo is a woven tapestry of experiences: Hymns and Bob Marley, injustice and mercy, discrimination and acceptance. As a result, Ike has become a well-tested navigator of the human experience. He aims to share and guide you through stories that inform and even reorient your perspective. Ike Ndolo released three singles in the summer of 2018, “Guiding Light,” “Your Table” & “Follow Me,” all of which are featured on his third LP, “Shine,” released on September 17th, 2018. Recorded at Gnome Studios in Nashville, TN in conjunction with Hardspeak Records.In this episode, we:Consider why beauty is necessary, especially nowTake a stroll down Ike’s street to appreciate beautyCancel guilt associated with tapping out on occasion and running to beauty  Walk Ike’s path of his media shifting from artistry to anti-racism work Thank Ike for bringing Black female voices to his media and influenceJoin us as we walk towards beauty as resistance. May we trust that we are able to engage in partnership with believers to do today’s justice work.Recommended reading & resources:Ike NdoloIke Ndolo on InstagramIke Ndolo on TwitterShine by Ike NdoloIke Ndolo on YouTubeVillage Lights Music on InstagramCommon HymnalUpside Down Podcast brings together women (and sometimes a few good men) for unscripted ecumenical conversations about God's upside-down kingdom. We're four women from across the US spanning age, denomination, race, culture, and background. We care deeply about the love of God and neighbor and explore themes of the intersections of faith and justice, with a bit of prophetic imagination. We come together as ordinary humans modeling tough conversations so you can be inspired to continue these conversations offline with your local community. In a time when many Christians are deconstructing their faith, we hope to be a welcoming space where people can be curious, learn, connect, and grow into the beloved community.News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
What does it mean to be for life in 2020? Join us for Season 5 with the hosts you know, founders Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace, veteran Alissa Molina, and our newest voice, Patricia Taylor to kick off a season of exploring what is needed in spirituality, justice, culture, and community.In this episode, we:Evaluate ‘pro-life’ as Jesus intended for abundant life in 2020Grieve what happens to the message and witness of Jesus when professing followers of God are unwilling to lay down life and libertiesSeek to follow Jesus in working for a “more and better life than they ever dreamed of”Discuss what it means to vote for a ‘pro-life’ PresidentShare practical ways we can honor life in our communitiesJoin us as we thoughtfully explore what it means to champion an abundant life in Christ. May we model Jesus in the way we value the Imago Dei in us all.Recommended reading & resources:John 10:10I came so they can have real and eternal life, more and better life than they ever dreamed of. - The Message I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. - NIVI came that they may have life and have it abundantly. - ESVUS Birthrates Fall to Record Low, Wall Street JournalUS Historical Abortion StatisticsBrick House in the CItyCasey Chappell on InstagramUpside Down Podcast brings together women (and sometimes a few good men) for unscripted ecumenical conversations about God's upside-down kingdom. We're four women from across the US spanning age, denomination, race, culture, and background. We care deeply about the love of God and neighbor and explore themes of the intersections of faith and justice, with a bit of prophetic imagination. We come together as ordinary humans modeling tough conversations so you can be inspired to continue these conversations offline with your local community. In a time when many Christians are deconstructing their faith, we hope to be a welcoming space where people can be curious, learn, connect, and grow into the beloved community.News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
This global pandemic has only magnified the fractures in our systems -- and even in our own hearts. In our final episode of season four, we’re asking this question: How do we not go back to the way things were before COVID-19? In our country, in our world, in our neighborhoods, in our families...in our own hearts? We don’t want to go back to normal. How can we pursue God’s Upside Down Kingdom...even now? Especially now? In this episode, we:Share what life looks like, where we areExamine productivity as Worth within the Christian cultureLook at rest as resistance Ask how can we begin to live like we belong to each otherTalk about who we have been learning from during the pandemic Join us as we work to be people who turn our gaze outward. May we live in the “and both” where we build our connection to Jesus and work for justice in a world in desperate need of love.Recommended reading & resources:The Nap Ministry on InstagramBread for the Resistance by Donna BarberInspired by Rachel Held EvansStephanie Tait on TwitterShannon Dingle on TwitterBraiding Sweetgrass bookShannen Dee Williams, Ph.D. on TwitterAmerica magazine articleNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Kaitlin Curtice joins Lindsy and Kayla with a conversation that is both a gentle challenge and a balm of encouragement. Kaitlin is a citizen of the Potawatomi Nation, a Christian, and a poet who speaks on faith and justice within the church as it relates to Indigenous peoples. Her newest book, Native: Identity, Belonging, and Rediscovering God came out just last week. In this episode, we:Ask how justice feels, even when it’s not labeled ChristianHold up the communion table as a political spaceUnpack how to listen to voices who have been silenced  Lean into ambiguity and how to listen to GodHonor the people who are doing the work of the churchKaitlin is a monthly columnist for Sojourners and her work has been featured on OnBeing, Religion News Service, CBS, USA Today, and The New Yorker. Join us as we work to be people who hold space for truth-telling. May we be ever aware of our inner-child so we can lean into asking questions without receiving answers immediately. Maybe then, we are able to be full of hope. Recommended reading & resources:Kaitlin on InstagramKaitlin on TwitterMiddle Church NYCRabbi Danya Ruttenberg on TwitterNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Join host Kayla Craig with co-host Alissa Molina as they welcome Latasha Morrison. Tasha is a speaker, author, reconciler, bridge-builder, and leader, committed to educating people on cultural intelligence and racial literacy. She founded Be the Bridge in 2016 to encourage racial reconciliation among all ethnicities, to promote racial unity in America, and to equip others to do the same.Tasha’s book, Be the Bridge, is a power-packed guide that helps readers deepen their understanding of historical factors and present realities, equipping them to participate in the ongoing dialogue and to serve as catalysts for righteousness, justice, healing, transformation, and reconciliation.In this episode, we:Dive into "racial reconciliation" through the lens of faithHold up the history of generational roles and responsibilities for reconciliation Look at the evolution of systems and how people play into the systems Talk about “both/and” of how communities must come togetherPass the mantel to the next generationJoin us as we began to be educated into cultural responsibility. May we lean into the collective faith and humanity to build the bridge for reconciliation in our communities and systems. Recommended reading & resources:Be A Bridge Builder InstagramBe The Bridge siteTasha Morrison InstagramTasha Morrison TwitterTasha Morrison siteSOUNDS OF JUSTICE PodcastKathy Khang, 'Raise Your Voice'Truths Table PodcastNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
It’s Black Maternal Health Week in America. Join host Alissa Molina and co-host Lindsy Wallace as we no longer only follow along with the work of Cessilye Smith, but have the opportunity to sit and learn from her. Her work in the areas of maternal health and justice are powerful. As she works to help drop the staggering numbers of black women who die in childbirth, we invite her in to teach us.Cessilye is a racial and maternal justice activist committed to tearing down walls of oppression and division in order to build bridges that lead to solution-based practices. Cessilye's passion for black women and for her community is what compelled her to co-found Abide Women's Health Services, an organization that exists to improve birth outcomes in communities with the lowest quality of care. Executive Director, anti-racist and maternal justice activist, speaker and educator are just a few of the many hats she wears. In this episode, we:Hold the COVID-19 pandemic to the light of how we desire humanity to beSit with Cessilye’s background and learning to lamentConsider stress and racism as Biological Weathering Unpack black women leadership against white privilege and followershipDive into self-care as an act of resistanceJoin us as we challenge ourselves to live 2020 as the year of the changed; by our votes of politics, money, and positions held. May we be people who fight to maintain hope to actively counter injustice. Recommended reading & resources:The Coronavirus Called America's BluffAbide Women's COVID-19 Amazon Wish ListCessilye Smith on InstagramAbide Women websiteAbide Women on InstagramAbide Women on TwitterAbide Women on FacebookKilling the Black Body by Dorothy RobertsMedical Apartheid by Harriett WashingtonThe Nap Ministry on InstagramSupport the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Kayla Craig, along with Gina Ciliberto, welcomes Reverend Anna Woofenden as she offers a new direction for planting churches, literally. She started a church in an empty lot in Los Angeles by planting a community garden.  In her new book, This Is God’s Table: Finding Church Beyond the Walls, Anna shares the story of what happened when she gardened, worshiped, and ate with anyone who would join her. As churches across the Western world wither, Anna offers a raw, honest, gritty way of doing church.In this episode, we:Compare the institution of church against non-traditional church settingsFind God in the pews and in the gardenLook to cultivate community in the light of the pandemicTake Anna’s experience from building a Church Beyond Walls into ideas for todayLove our neighbor through consideration of the most vulnerable Discuss ways to increase our spiritual practicesAnna Woofenden is a writer, speaker, pastor, and leading voice in the food and faith movement. She is the founding pastor of the Garden Church in San Pedro, California, the founder of Feed and Be Fed Farm, and the cohost of the Food and Faith podcast. Woofenden, who has an MDiv from Earlham School of Religion, has served at Wayfarers Chapel in Los Angeles and at St. Gregory of Nyssa Episcopal Church and The Food Pantry in San FranciscoShe serves as the Protestant chaplain at Amherst College and lives with her husband, David, in Northampton, Massachusetts. Woofenden is passionate about spirituality, justice, food, the earth, and community, and is driven by a calling to reimagine church.Join us as we consider ways to spiritually connect in these days. May we be people who lean into the uncertainty, and increase church, even as we cease in-person gatherings. Recommended reading & resources:Connect with Rev. AnnaIncrease Church: Cease In-Person Gatherings (For Now)News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
What does it mean to be modest? Are modesty and purity the same thing? In this episode, Alissa, Gina, Kayla, and Lindsy candidly discuss the topic of modesty in our culture through the lens of God’s upside-down kingdom. Bringing varying backgrounds and faith experiences to the table, we ponder aloud what to make of the call by many Christians to "be modest."In this episode, we:Jump into the typical Christian definition of modestyAsk how this compares with the modesty question of the BibleCompare objectification with modesty Explore the power structures behind modesty standardsAddress cultural differences of what modesty meansJoin us as we challenge ourselves to be modest with an upside-down approach. May we be people who practice modesty, regardless of our gender or what we choose to wear. Recommended reading & resources:Where Goodness Still Grows, Amy PetersonNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
We’re exploring the fullness of our humanity: the good, the bad, and how to hold space for each other. In this episode, we welcome guest Sister Didi Madden, a Dominican Sister of Blauvelt, NY. Sister Didi is a psychotherapist, a farmer, and the justice promoter for a collaboration of Dominican congregations in NY and NJ. She currently works on Harmony Farm in Goshen, NY.In this episode, we:Begin to unpack the both/and of humanityAsk what is the need that people are living out ofExplore how categorization creates division Address how to respond with invitationAre challenged to learn to celebrate what is differentHost Gina Ciliberto leads the conversation with Lindsy Wallace and Kayla Craig.Join us as we explore how to develop the capacity to be in relationship fully with each other, even as we are afraid and without all the answers. May we be people who answer the invitation to meet people and not categorize them, and be able to see with eyes of faith who the person is.Recommended reading & resources:The Sisters of Saint Dominic of Blauvelt, NYNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Is anger all bad? What’s the difference between healthy, constructive anger and unhealthy, destructive anger? In this episode, Kayla Craig leads a vulnerable discussion about anger, emotions, and faith with Lindsy Wallace, Alissa Molina, and Gina Ciliberto.Have you ever wondered: Is God an angry God? Should Christians get angry? Should women get angry? Could we use our anger to change the world?In this episode, we:Unpack what we were taught about anger growing up in the church, by our families of origin, and from society.Explore how “angry” has been weaponized against women, especially black women and women of color.Define the difference between constructive healthy anger vs. destructive toxic anger.Explore what made Jesus angry and what that tells us about “righteous” anger.Join us as we explore space for anger in the Christian tradition. May we be holistic people who listen to our bodies, minds, and souls...who neither ignore anger nor dwell in it, but move through it in constructive action.Recommended reading & resources:It’s okay for Christians to be angry. What matters is what you do with that anger. (Washington Post)Everyday Ignatian: Prayer Showed Me My Anger — And That’s a Good Thing (Post by Shannon Evans)Christena Cleveland: From Hostility to Humility to HealingWhat Constitutes "Healthy Anger"?Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God by Brian Zahn (Book)Life of the Beloved by Henri Nouwen (Book)Decolonizing Non-Violent Communication (by Meenadchi)News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Join us as we welcome Dr. Larycia Hawkins, who talks about her experience when, in 2015, she declared her intention to don a hijab in embodied solidarity with Muslim sisters throughout Advent and what transpired afterward. Host Lindsy Wallace and co-host Gina Ciliberto join in the conversation.Dr. Hawkins is a scholar, political science professor, and activist teaching and researching at the nexus of politics, race, ethnicity, and religion and has been called a modern-day Rosa Parks by Rev. Jesse Jackson. In this episode, we:Dive into how Larycia decided to embody solidaritySoak in what was learned from Muslim womenExamine the differences in proximity versus solidarity Humbly consider embodied solidarity as a form of deathDare to be hopeful during the exile in the wildernessJoin us as we explore how to not only be for others but also with them. May we be people who are emboldened to embody justice to speak truth to power and to take risks as we follow Jesus.  Recommended reading & resources:The Same God filmFollow Dr. Larycia on Twitter, Instagram, and FacebookNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
It’s Complicated. The more we learn about the suffering of the world, the more difficult it can become to live in it. Join host Lindsy Wallace along with co-hosts Kayla Craig, Alissa Molina, and Gina Ciliberto, to unpack living as engaged, thoughtful, neighbor-loving humans in a world where every choice has unintended, and possibly unknown, consequences. In this episode, we:Share examples of complication in our livesUnpack where we go from learning of the complications that surround usGet technical discussing cognitive dissonanceDiscuss how we protect against overwhelm that results in paralyzationLook to the life of Jesus to teach us what it means to be human in a complicated worldJoin us as we acknowledge the privilege of embracing the complicated pieces of our own worlds while working to balance this with the compassionate love we can offer back to those around us. May we be people who learn how to recognize the complications around us and from that, walk with humility on the road to solidarity.  “May we be refuge for the complicated” - Propaganda, It’s Complicated, Crooked Recommended reading & resources:D.L. Mayfield’s Christ + Pop Culture Recap of The Good PlaceSo You Want to Talk About Race, Ijeoma OluoIt’s Complicated, PropagandaNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Dr. Christena Cleveland leads Kayla and Lindsy in a conversation exploring how cultural perceptions of race and gender impact the way we view God.In this episode, we:Learn how Christena's background influenced how she views ethnicity and feminityQuestion how Christians arrived at a male perception of GodUnpack what heals inside of us when we imagine God as MotherExplore the intersectionality of race and genderAddress the language of empire and the work to remove feminine language in scriptureDive into how we can celebrate a fuller advent seasonChristena Cleveland, Ph.D. is a social psychologist, public theologian, author, and activist. She is the founder and director of the recently-launched Center for Justice + Renewal, a non-profit dedicated to helping justice advocates sharpen their understanding of the social realities that maintain injustice while also stimulating the soul’s enormous capacity to resist and transform those realities. She's currently working on her third book which examines the relationship between race, gender, and cultural perceptions of the Divine.Join us as we talk with Dr. Christena Cleveland about her work as a public theologian studying cultural perceptions of race, gender, and the Divine.Recommended reading & resources:Support Christena Cleveland on Patreon“When God Was a Woman" (Christena's book rec)“When God Was a Black Woman” (Christena's book rec)News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Host Kayla Craig and co-host Alissa Molina welcome Sami DiPasquale to this episode of Upside Down Podcast - Kinship at the Border. We’re moving beyond headlines to discuss how to best love our neighbors at the US/Mexico border.Sami is Executive Director of the Ciudad Nueva Community Outreach; which seeks to embody the gospel of Jesus Christ by advancing the renewal and development of central El Paso’s Rio Grande neighborhood through the empowerment and transformation of its residents. He lives and works with his family in the Rio Grande District, a beautiful community in the heart of El Paso, Texas. Sami serves on the international board of directors of Micah Global and on the global connections committee of the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA) – networks striving for flourishing communities free from poverty and injustice. In this episode, we:Learn about Sami’s work at the U.S./Mexico borderExplore how the work is possible while avoiding a savior complexUnpack the rhetoric we should be mindful to divesting fromExplore how stubborn hope factors into Sami’s workAddress practical actions we can take to come alongside our neighbors at the border.Join us as we embrace our shared humanity and learn more about the intricacies surrounding the US/Mexico border and our immigration system. May we be people who find hope in situations much bigger than us. Recommended reading & resources:AbaraCiudad NuevaPreemptive Love Podcast: Border Response Preemptive Love Podcast: Love Beyond Borders PBS article: Children split at BorderNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
What can Catholics and Protestants learn from each other's traditions? Can we work together in God’s upside-down kingdom? And when can—or should—we set aside the subtle (or not-so-subtle) differences in thought, doctrine, and practice of our own Christian belief systems to work toward a common good?Alissa Molina hosts an intimate and honest ecumenical conversation with co-hosts Kayla Craig, Gina Ciliberto, and Lindsy Wallace. We’re thinking outside the box when it comes to our unofficial theme of this season: Get Your People and applying it to a discussion on ecumenism, hoping to model empathetic and loving discourse about our faith traditions.In this episode, we:Discuss the meaning within ecumenical friendshipsModel asking and answering difficult questions (like about communion/Eucharist) with grace Break down misconceptions about Protestantism and Catholicism (What are Evangelicals? What is non-denominational? What's a mainline denomination? Why do Catholics use the phrase "convert"?)Explore the importance of having a posture of curiosity instead of defensivenessTalk about how we can apply a more nuanced and intentionally upside-down approach to our faithsJoin us as we explore how to develop deeper understandings between our Protestant and Catholic sisters and brothers. Reading & Resources:Alissa on the Catholic Feminist Podcast“Why I Stay” by Shannon EvansCCDA7 Key Differences Between Protestant and Catholic DoctrineProtestant Tour of Catholic ChurchNews, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together Facebook Group!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
Season 4 | Episode 58 - Good GriefGrief is the deep sorrow, anguish, and pain we feel after a loss or a death of a loved one. We all know it when it comes to us, in our hearts and in our bones. But, once we’re faced with that heaviness, what do we do with grief? How do we move forward with it or lean into it?Host Gina Ciliberto and co-hosts Lindsy Wallace, Kayla Craig, and Alissa Molina talk about grief as it relates to the Upside Down Kingdom.In this episode, we:Define grief and what can be confused for griefExplore what it means to hold grief or to feel deprived Talk about Jesus’ weeping contrasted with today's worldUnpack how we balance grieving with “being okay”Get creative in how we speak to or support people who are grievingJoin us as we walk through what it means to grieve as faith-based believers. May we be people who are eternally hopeful and lean into the Kingdom of here and not yet as we sit in our lamentations and in the unknowing, and to allow our neighbors the same grace. Recommended reading & resources:Nora McInerny's TED Talk4 Ways to Deal with Death and GriefHot Young Widows ClubNora Borealis Leticia AdamsLaura Kelly Fanucci, author of Everyday Sacrament & Grieving Together  News, Notes, and Links:Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Tribe on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)
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