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All In All Out focuses on promoting 1) greater communication and collaboration in the field of reentry/reform/decarceration efforts in Wisconsin and 2) showcasing the successes, humanity, and agency of people with criminal records. All In All Out is produced in partnership with The Community (thecommunitynow.us), the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform (wisdp.org), and the Milwaukee School of Engineering. We are part of a small community of podcast/radio shows in Wisconsin working to correct the narrative about the justice system and how we can better bring about a justice system more worthy of that name.
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What started out as an exploration of the possibilities of traveling while on paper (extended supervision) ultimately turned into a legitimate research project ending with Adam Procell and Shannon Ross traveling to the only non-profit prison in the world located in Belize.
Marlon has an established track record of creating effective coalitions, including passing the largest sealing expansion law in the United States and leading a voter registration campaign, which registered over 1,000 people with records to vote.He is currently the campaign manager for the Fully Free Campaign in Illinois, which works to dismantle the laws and regulations that govern permanent punishments, which are the barriers that deny or restrict rights and opportunities for people with a record -- long after their involvement with the criminal legal system is over.We spoke about the power of collaboration and correcting the narrative to achieve true rights restoration.– To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/– For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
Guy Hamilton-Smith is a 2019 JustLeadershipUSA fellow, civil rights activist, and a writer. Most recently, he was the legal fellow at the Sex Offense Litigation and Policy Resource Center at the Mitchell Hamline School of law where his work focused on civil rights litigation and policy in the area of sex offense registries and indefinite civil commitment. He currently acts as a consultant on a number of civil and criminal cases across the nation in both state and federal courts, and is awaiting admission as an attorney in the District of Columbia. Learn more about his work at www.guyhamiltonsmith.com. The sex offense registry and the restrictions connected to it are promoted as making communities safer. But are they? Guy and I discuss the points and much more about this hot-button serious issue. The data and stories will shock you and the conclusions will challenge you.More info links to get started:- Did the Supreme Court Base a Ruling on a Myth? - The New York Times (nytimes.com) - Sex Offenders: Recidivism, Re-Entry Policy and Facts | HuffPost Latest News– To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/– For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
Artie Gonzales went from a life sentence, including 8 straight years at the infamous Pelican Bay super max, to now a member of big Hollywood productions and a rising star in the movement to correct the narrative about people with criminal records through media and entertainment. He is a wonderful testament to what system-impacted people can be and the unprecedented humanity that lies within. Follow his rise and insights on Instagram (@theartiegonzales) and Twitter (@artiegonzales23). And look out for his upcoming show Lessons from a Lifer.- To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
Brian Koehn spent 28 years in the private prison industry with a reputation as a "fixer." But during his career, he become more and more disillusioned with the destructiveness and waste of the system. A presentation at a conference and a subsequent visit to the Scandinavian prison system solidified the trajectory of a 180 degree turn in his career toward humanizing and helping system impacted people. His Social Profit Corrections model is a must-hear. Visit their site for more: https://spcor.org/. - To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
Dawn Barnett of Running Rebels and Carmen Pitre of the Sojourner Truth House are shining examples of the self-awareness, commitment, and power of collaboration. They share fantastic stories and insights about giving up control and sharing the spotlight for the larger purpose that is behind all of our work as humanizers and systems changers.- To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
Dr. Darren Wheelock is, among other things, a criminal justice professor at Marquette University who has studied recidivism for a number of years. We spoke about the way this widely accepted barometer of success or failure in criminal justice programs and funding is misleading to say the least. Not only is it defined differently in states across the county but many of the ways it is defined overstate the issue or understate it considerably. We also touch on the new Education Preparedness Program at Marquette blending incarcerated and non-incarcerated college students. - To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
Daniel Forkkio is the CEO of Represent Justice, whose mission is to turn stories into action to change the justice system, while building the capacity of system-impacted communities. Represent Justice started as an impact campaign inspired by the life and legacy of Bryan Stevenson, and launched in December 2019 alongside the Warner Bros. theatrical release of Just Mercy. Through a two-year strategic plan, Represent Justice will continue to engage audiences through powerful stories and media, to build awareness and spark collective action. Please check out their work and impact at representjustice.org. We spoke about the power of stories and addressing the narrative surrounding people with criminal records and their interest in Wisconsin. - To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
This week we talk to Roy Rogers. Roy is what’s known as a j-lifer because he was sentenced to life in prison as a juvenile. We talk about his growth, successes, insights, and extreme sincerity as a human being as he approaches release after 28 years in prison. See this for an article he wrote 10 years ago as well http://secondchanceforjuvenileoffenders.blogspot.com/2009/12/roy-rogers.html?m=1.- To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
Scott Budnick, the producer and financier of Just Mercy (and the director of the Hangover) speaks about the national interest coming to fuel reentry/reform/decarceration efforts in Wisconsin very soon.- To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
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Dialo Orr has been incarcerated for 25 years on a 100+ year sentence. His journey from angry and lost, to sick and tired, to mighty healer is just one example of the grace and human beauty we neglect and disincentivize in jails in prisons. Chuck is also a prime example of the adage that those closest to the problem are closest to the solution.- To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
As an experienced civil rights lawyer and long-time humanizer, Janos Marton is an influential and respected leader in safety and justice work nationally. His commentary on the discussion between reform and abolition is an excellent way to better understand the complexity of the issue. But don’t let it be the whole story for you. For answers on abolitionism we either didn’t cover or didn’t have answers for, explore Mariame Kaba and Ruth Wilson Gilmore (among others). - To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
David Carlson fought in the military, spent time in prison, and has significant experience as a humanizer in the reentry/reform/decarceration work with the ACLU in Eau Claire. His background and experience led to some powerful commentary during our conversation about collaborating across state, his disappointment working with the police to address the system, and his new venture We Adapt, which treats people through exercise and the outdoors. David is a fantastic example of how those who have experienced incarceration are leaders in work to promote more comprehensive and sustainable safety and justice in society.- To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
This week we talk to Jean Delonget, who has achieved numerous things while serving a 26 year sentence in the Wisconsin prison system for robbing someone with a BB gun. That’s right, a BB gun. And check out some of his work here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QJUkbNywT9b8vkss8- To contact and for more info on The Community: https://sociatap.com/Thecommunity/- For resources and events in reentry/reform/decarceration work in Wisconsin visit the Wisconsin Decarceration Platform
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