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Author: Mary Jo Irmen

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The archaic system of giving up money today, taking on risk, and hoping to retire is B.S.

This podcast seeks to help make you responsible for your money and your future. You are the one who cares more about it than anyone else. I am here to help you and provide the honesty you need. No sugar coating. No false claims. Just straight up truth.
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In this episode, Mary Jo and Tarisa dive into the importance of using money to create cash flow, and not merely saving it. They discuss Nelson's journey of overcoming significant debt and beating Parkinson's law, the importance of shifting from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset, and the various ways to use your policy for financial growth. They also share some fun stories! Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In this episode, Mary Jo and Tarisa dive into the realities of being a life insurance agent, addressing the industry's complexities and the challenges that new agents face. They discuss the importance of understanding the power dynamics with General Agents (GAs), the potential pitfalls of joining the wrong agency, and how crucial it is to align with a supportive GA. Through personal anecdotes and expert advice, they cover what new agents can expect, the industry's 'smoke and mirrors', and the resilience needed to succeed. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In this episode, Mary Jo and Tarisa tackle a common question about financial strategies: whether to 'buy term and invest the difference' - or to choose a dividend paying whole life policy, and to implement the Infinite Banking Concept. Join in as they have a detailed discussion on the drawbacks of term insurance and the benefits of whole life, especially when considering long-term liquidity, control, and guarantees. They highlight the holistic approach needed to manage finances effectively involving due diligence, reading the foundational IBC texts, and consulting with a certified IBC practitioner. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Some of the worst advice we ever get is to avoid taxes. In this episode, I run through some numbers of why it truly does not make sense to buy things to avoid taxes; we just transfer money to the bank instead of keeping it, or we give up liquid cash. (Updated version of Ep. 37; originally published November 19, 2021.) Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In this episode, Mary Jo discusses common issues faced by clients, such as unnecessarily canceling policies or being misled by other agents into switching policies. She stresses the necessity for continuing education regarding how to use your policies so that you can be a good banker. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In this episode, Mary Jo we delves into the complexities and risks associated with universal life insurance policies, using a real-life client scenario to illustrate the issues. This example serves as a cautionary tale about the true cost of these policies, especially for older policyholders, and offers guidance on making informed decisions to potentially avoid substantial losses. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Mary Jo explains why chasing net worth won't move you forward and why cash flow is what truly matters. She shows how using your money with purpose can open the door to real freedom and momentum. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Scarcity thinking might feel safe, but it's quietly sabotaging your financial future. In this episode, Mary Jo unpacks how emotional baggage, financial PTSD, and debt-free obsession can block real wealth-building and keep you stuck playing small. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In today's episode, Mary Jo calls out the chaos in blue-collar businesses and makes a clear case for hiring help. If you're in the trades and tired of missed calls, poor communication, and 70-hour work weeks, this one's for you. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
What happens if your partner or key employee dies? Mary Jo shares why buy-sell and key man policies are a must to protect your business. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Mary Jo and Tarisa discuss Codie Sanchez's business-buying strategy and how infinite banking can take it even further. Discover why funding through your own system changes the game. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In this episode, Mary Jo and Tarisa expose why IULs fall short for infinite banking and highlight the value of transparency, guarantees, and real long-term control. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Today, Mary Jo and Tarisa dive deep into a question many face: Should you start an infinite banking policy while in debt? They unpack real-life examples, human behavior patterns, and financial discipline to help listeners make smarter, more sustainable money decisions. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
MJ and Tarisa continue the conversation and dive deep into the truths and misconceptions about Universal Life (UL) insurance policies, comparing them to Whole Life and exploring why guarantees matter. They break down industry noise, market risks, and why understanding your policy could mean the difference between lasting coverage and financial disappointment. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In this episode, MJ and Tarisa break down what really matters when it comes to life insurance: proper policy structure, guarantees, and working with the right agent. They dive into the dangers of chasing rates of return and why illustrations often tell only part of the story. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Curious about how a Roth IRA stacks up against a whole life insurance policy for Infinite Banking? In this episode, we break down the key differences, from control and liquidity to tax treatment and long-term benefits, helping you decide which option fits your financial goals. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
This week, Mary Jo and Tarisa take a hard look at the popular claim that saving $100 a month can make you a millionaire by retirement, famously promoted by Dave Ramsey. Let's unpack the real math behind market returns, inflation, and financial control, arguing that blind faith in traditional plans can leave you woefully unprepared. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
In this episode, Mary Jo and Tarisa discuss the concept of wealth being relative to the people we surround ourselves with. They emphasize the importance of having a positive and ambitious environment, avoiding the victim mentality, and learning from successful individuals. They also talk about the significance of taking action and maintaining an open mind. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Why do we trust banks and the stock market without question, but scrutinize life insurance to the extreme? In this episode, Mary Jo and Tarisa dive into financial mindsets, exposing the double standards we apply to life insurance and how understanding Infinite Banking can shift your financial control. Documentary Mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkOQNPIsO-Q Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
Join us as we explore the surprising similarities between life insurance premiums and mortgage payments, emphasizing how both offer long-term stability and equity growth. We're looking at the advantages of whole life insurance as a financial tool, from tax-free growth to death benefits, while comparing it to real estate investments and the peace of mind that comes with a fixed, guaranteed cost structure. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com 
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