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EPP Podcast is a production of Enneagram Prison Project (EPP).


Hosted by EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey, these raw conversations unpack the amazing journey of EPP over the past 11 years and more.


EPP is on a mission to help people to understand why we do what we do, using the Enneagram to inspire transformation—on both sides of the bars—through self-awareness, self-regulation, and self-compassion.

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Episode 34: Jan Shegda

Episode 34: Jan Shegda

2024-01-0202:10:49

Jan Shegda is a guide for EPP.  She is also quite involved with the project behind the scenes administratively in a variety of spaces.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Jan for a conversation about baby animals, MBTI, and trauma.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 33: Becky

Episode 33: Becky

2023-12-0501:07:30

Becky is a community builder for EPP.  She's also married to one of our in-custody participants.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey and EPP Guide Laura Hooper sit down with Becky for a conversation about hope, love, and building a relationship through incarceration.(Note:  This episode was originally scheduled for release in October, and we're delighted to be able to share it now.)For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 32: Cynthia Riha

Episode 32: Cynthia Riha

2023-11-0701:32:00

Cynthia Riha is a Guide for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Cynthia for a conversation about community, heart, and being real.Special thanks to EPP Guide Laura Hooper for joining us once again on the podcast.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 31: Troy Phillips

Episode 31: Troy Phillips

2023-09-0501:43:56

Troy Phillips is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Troy for a conversation about freedom, responding, and the gift of presence. Also in this episode, we pause at 45:51 to share a few Words of Appreciation for EPP Board Member Lance White.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 30: Ahshua Bolton

Episode 30: Ahshua Bolton

2023-08-0101:28:12

Ahshua Bolton is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits with down Ahshua for a conversation about the prisons of our own making, doing the work together, and more.Also in this episode, we pause at 31:10 to share a few Words of Appreciation for EPP Ambassador Dustin Baldwin .For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 29: Stella Strazdas

Episode 29: Stella Strazdas

2023-07-0401:20:30

Stella Strazdas is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Stella for a conversation about first impressions, apprenticing, and dancing with one another in equality.Special thanks to EPP Lead Guide Laura Hooper for joining this conversation and playing quite a role in the events we discuss.Also in this episode, we pause at 25:48 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Dana Vitorelo.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 28: Clay Tumey

Episode 28: Clay Tumey

2023-06-0601:22:30

Clay Tumey is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Executive Director Rick Olesek sit down with Clay for a chat about May 21, 2007—the day the good began.Also in this episode, we pause at 37:49 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Susanne Gawreluk.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 27: Sue Lambert

Episode 27: Sue Lambert

2023-05-0201:28:33

Sue Lambert is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project.  She is also a guide and on the faculty for EPP.  In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Sue for a chat about getting out of jail, going back to prison, and a never-ending gift.Special thanks to EPP Founder Susan Olesek for joining this conversation and helping to make this episode possible.Also in this episode, we pause at 30:40 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Rick Olesek.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Susan Olesek is the Founder of Enneagram Prison Project.  Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of EPP.  They are partners both in life and in the project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Rick & Susan to celebrate and discuss EPP's 11th year in existence.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Halida Hatic.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Susanne Gawreluk is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project, and her husband, Mike, has a background in telecommunications network engineering.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Mike & Susanne for a conversation about graduation, new outlooks on life, and what it's like to go inside a prison for the first time.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Laura Hooper is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project.  She is also a program manager (and much more) for the project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Laura for a conversation about stress, programming on the inside, and why we serve those who may never have a release date.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Sue Lambert.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Dustin Baldwin is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project, and Dana Vitorelo is an EPP Guide.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Dustin & Dana for a conversation about going back to prison, mail call, and their recent trip to Belgium.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Ariane Kessel.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 22: Ripple Effect

Episode 22: Ripple Effect

2023-02-2201:15:03

Alex Senegal is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project.  He is also a member of the board for EPP.  In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Alex for a chat about learning the Enneagram on the inside, representing EPP on the outside, and much more.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Laura Hooper.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Continuing our discussion about EPP's Guide Training Program (GTP) in this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with Djinnaya, who recently completed GTP and has moved on to be an apprentice.  In this episode, Djinnaya shares with us in detail her introduction to the Enneagram, EPP, and ultimately the path of becoming a guide.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Riley Brown. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
EPP Guides are constantly growing, conscious individuals who have journeyed their own inner terrain with enough depth and skill to offer their wisdom, experience, and steady presence to others who are navigating their own journeys.The Guide Training Program (GTP) is about developing and bringing out those particular skills and gifts, as well as finding and working the edges where we are still developing.  We offer support and assurance to effectively and compassionately guide our participants with a co-guide, while inviting them to simultaneously stay present to themselves.In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with a few of the pod guides from the most recent offering of GTP, which has now officially come to its conclusion.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Jan Shegda. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Sherrie Lee is a self-described newbie in the Enneagram world.  She’s also Mom to EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey.   In this episode, Sherrie and Clay sit down for a chat about character assessments, prison chats, and new perspectives.Special thanks to EPP Guide Dana Vitorelo for (among many other things) helping to make this episode  possible. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Jodi Norton.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
In this episode, we go back in time to October 2015 for a conversation with EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Ambassadors Victor Soto and Clay Tumey about opening up on the inside, being willing to look at a new way, and making the decision to take the first step in a new direction.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
In this episode, we hear from a variety of campers—ambassadors, faculty, guides, and more—at the inaugural EPP Camping Trip, which happened in Northern California just outside of Yosemite National Park the last weekend of August 2022.Good food, hiking, swimming, dominoes and so much more.  Listen in for a peek into a weekend of community with the Enneagram Prison Project.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Episode 16: RJ Donovan

Episode 16: RJ Donovan

2022-07-0401:31:10

In this episode, three EPP Guides (Halida Hatic, Scott Tavenner and Jan Shegda) share their experiences from a recent trip to a San Diego prison where Enneagram Prison Project held a weeklong intensive with 60+ residents across three classes.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
Clay Tumey wraps up the first season of the EPP Podcast with clips and commentary.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.
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