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EPP Podcast is a production of Enneagram Prison Project (EPP).

Hosted by EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey, these raw conversations unpack the amazing journey of EPP over the past decade.

EPP is on a mission to help people to understand why we do what we do, using the Enneagram to inspire transformation—on both sides of the bars—through self-awareness, self-regulation, and self-compassion.

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EPP Guides are constantly growing, conscious individuals who have journeyed their own inner terrain with enough depth and skill to offer their wisdom, experience, and steady presence to others who are navigating their own journeys.The Guide Training Program (GTP) is about developing and bringing out those particular skills and gifts, as well as finding and working the edges where we are still developing.  We offer support and assurance to effectively and compassionately guide our participants with a co-guide, while inviting them to simultaneously stay present to themselves.In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with a few of the pod guides from the most recent offering of GTP, which has now officially come to its conclusion.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Jan Shegda. 
Sherrie Lee is a self-described newbie in the Enneagram world.  She’s also Mom to EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey.   In this episode, Sherrie and Clay sit down for a chat about character assessments, prison chats, and new perspectives.Special thanks to EPP Guide Dana Vitorelo for (among many other things) helping to make this episode  possible. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Jodi Norton.
In this episode, we go back in time to October 2015 for a conversation with EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Ambassadors Victor Soto and Clay Tumey about opening up on the inside, being willing to look at a new way, and making the decision to take the first step in a new direction.
In this episode, we hear from a variety of campers—ambassadors, faculty, guides, and more—at the inaugural EPP Camping Trip, which happened in Northern California just outside of Yosemite National Park the last weekend of August 2022.Good food, hiking, swimming, dominoes and so much more.  Listen in for a peek into a weekend of community with the Enneagram Prison Project.
Episode 16: RJ Donovan

Episode 16: RJ Donovan

2022-07-0401:31:10

In this episode, three EPP Guides (Halida Hatic, Scott Tavenner and Jan Shegda) share their experiences from a recent trip to a San Diego prison where Enneagram Prison Project held a weeklong intensive with 60+ residents across three classes.
Clay Tumey wraps up the first season of the EPP Podcast with clips and commentary.
Susan Olesek is the Founder of Enneagram Prison Project.  Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of EPP.  They are partners both in life and in the project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Susan & Rick to talk about the entire journey of EPP as it has unfolded over the past decade, plus the years that preceded the project's inception in the first place.In 2022, EPP is celebrating 10 years of freeing people - all over the world - from the prisons of our own making.  As part of our 10 year campaign, we invite you to help us GROW OUR COMMUNITY - on both sides of the bars!  Thanks to the generosity of a donor - just like you - every gift made to this fundraising campaign will be matched, dollar for dollar, up to $100,000.https://give.enneagramprisonproject.org/campaign/epp-celebrates-10-years/c396564Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Susan Olesek.
Eric McCluskey is a longtime friend of Enneagram Prison Project and is also a member of the Board. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey returns to the Bay Area for a conversation with Eric that spans everything from the scaling of EPP to the magnitude of nature. Also in this episode, we are introducing a new segment called Words of Appreciation.Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Jason White.
Laura Hooper is a Program Manager and Guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Laura to discuss topics including the importance of not “othering” the incarcerated, the value of a hug, and much more.
Episode 11: Alone Together

Episode 11: Alone Together

2022-01-1201:00:40

Tara Meehan is a long-time supporter of Enneagram Prison Project and also a member of our board.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Tara to discuss everything from life as Type Seven to the joy associated with generosity.
Lance White is a board member for Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits New Mexico and sits down for a conversation with Lance to discuss everything from business ownership to what it’s like having a child serving time in prison.
In this special Giving Tuesday Bonus episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with EPP Guide and graphic artist Robin Grant and beloved friend and partner of the project Dr. Heather Greenwald. Pull up a chair and join the conversation as they explore topics ranging from their personal origin stories with EPP, how the project has inspired them, and insightful perspectives on the Enneagram as a tool for personal transformation and healing. In the spirit of inspiring radical generosity, ALL donations made through EPP's #GivingTuesday Strategic Programming campaign will be matched dollar for dollar up to $100,000! The Strategic Programming campaign supports EPP's capacity to pilot our 8-module compassionate curriculum in facilities that are new to us. Make a one-time or recurring gift online at: https://give.enneagramprisonproject.org/campaign/strategic-programming/c362597
Episode 8: Office Spaces

Episode 8: Office Spaces

2021-11-1201:17:29

Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of Enneagram Prison Project.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Rick about topics ranging from funny movie quotes to leaving a career in private enterprise for a journey more meaningful.
EPP Guides walk alongside the incarcerated in finding a way out of the prisons of our own making.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits Minnesota and talks with Phil GebbenGreen and Susanne Gawreluk—two EPP Guides who are responsible for our first local community outside of California.
EPP Guides are on the frontline of taking the enneagram into prisons to share with the populations who need it most.  More than simply teaching, our guides walk alongside those incarcerated in finding a way out of the prisons of our own making.  In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with EPP Guides Dana Vitorelo and Camilla Norman Field.
Episode 5: Russ Hudson

Episode 5: Russ Hudson

2021-08-1201:18:26

Russ Hudson is one of the principal scholars and innovative thinkers in the Enneagram system’s development worldwide.  In this episode, Clay and Russ sit down to chat about a variety of topics including Euclidean geometry, poisoned gummy bears, and why the Enneagram is not a tic-tac-toe board.  Please visit RussHudson.com for information about teachings, new publications, and more.
Episode 4: Re-entry

Episode 4: Re-entry

2021-07-1202:00:32

In this 2-hour episode, some of our EPP Ambassadors share their stories of re-entry in a powerful and moving conversation about the moments before, during, and after release. In this poignant and insightful episode, fellow EPP Ambassador and host Clay Tumey inquires about our Ambassador's personal journey with the Enneagram, how they found EPP, and what it's like navigating life post-incarceration.
In episode 3, EPP goes to jail for the very first time. During a truly touching walk down memory lane, you are invited to listen as Clay Tumey reconnects two unusual Facebook friends, EPP Ambassador Vic Soto, and Neelam Wadhwani, the retired Program Manager from the facility at which Vic served his last sentence ending 17 years of incarceration.
The EPP Podcast is back this month as our host, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey, "turns the tables" on EPP Founder Susan Olesek for a not-to-be-missed conversation about the Enneagram, hosting a relationship panel in prison, and the birth of Enneagram Prison Project!
In this inaugural episode, three EPP ambassadors—Clay Tumey, Victor Soto, and Alex Senegal—chop it up and talk about daily life, crosswalk safety, and what it means to be “O.G.”  Casual dialogue among brothers, this first episode offers a quick glimpse into what it’s like to be an Ambassador of the Enneagram Prison Project.
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