Claim Ownership


Author: Mac Bogert

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Change always creates resistance and fear. As we move through this crisis, let us take the chance to re-align our focus to what's important and to what we each can do to create change, empathy, and community.
68 Episodes
Amy Olmedo's life has not been so much a series of forks as a series of switchbacks. Her journey provides a clarity about trauma, change, and courage that will help you take stock, and take aim, at finding and living as yourself. As Oscar Wilde suggested, "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken."Join us for a wonderful exploration of versions of the truth.
Bruno grabbed me from our first conversation. He is candid, smart, and powered by a strong sense of innovation and empathy. His book, The Art of Compassionate Business, is interesting as well as compelling. I have not finished it - full disclosure - and I'm caught up by his perspective. We talk about qualitative analysis, education, replacing Human Resources (yuck) with Human Assets, a dialogue that circles and goes back to his, and my, central thesis: Treating Employees Well is Good Business.
The Rise of the Ambidextrous Organization is Eric's remarkable contribution to our understanding of a new way of thinking and of doing business. He and I have a romp through thinking, childhood, the creative machine, "you're not your brain," and The Memory Palace. Then we really hit the ground running. He and I connect like a couple of long-lost friends washed ashore together on a deserted isle.Join us. As far as the future is concerned,  we both have no doubts that something interesting is going to happen.
Susan Sneath and I share the experience of working as an actor, a tendency toward being wildly candid, and a willingness to boldly go . . . . I had a tough time with the title for this episode - I'm looking at a list of nine quotes from Susan that would be bang-up for where we went, but I think this is the best to capture her enthusiasm and courage.Acting, health, vulnerability, respect, dignity, hope, life, and more are among the hairpin turns we make together as we try to figure out what is the wit that would heal us?Tea of any sort and a small scone are the prefect accompaniment for this episode.
Catherine Fitzgerald is one of the contributors to back2different who had a 'straight' career - linear, climbing the corporate ladder, that kind of thing, and then realized it wasn't working. So off she went, fear, courage, determination and possibilities in hand and made her own thing. She's business-focused, and she has discovered that we can re-define 'profit' to exclude 'dehumanization.'She helps people find their own, and others around them, paths that tie value to humanity, and she understands that "leaders are not doers, they're the developers of doers." Bravo. We have a great romp that explores lots of byways and side ways, as we agree that my humanity does not diminish my value. Enjoy!
I'm reminded again how much we need, and how quickly we move toward, friendship during this dislocation. Ryan Maloney and I both played in many bands for years and years. We both played in rhythm sections (bass for me and drums for him), which creates a special bond. Most of us know, though we're not aware of it, that without a good drummer and bass player, your band's gonna suck. We also cover life, mental health, isolation, happiness, art, spirit, and the crushing experience of corporate culture. Join us, feel the drummed bass of your favorite music, and enjoy the ride!
Okay, so we cover . . .mental health       being incarcerated             AI               hallucinating                   graffiti                        feeding the hungry ghost . . .and that's just for starters.  Jonathan is the author of Mission2Moga, a very interesting dystopian novel. He was a fixture among the crews of Brooklyn by age five, and, as Mark Twain suggested, "never let my schooling interfere with my education." Fasten your shoulder harness for our trip while we look back as if nothing happened.
A wild and variegated journey with Aileda Lindal leads us through neuroscience, epigenetics, quantum physics and being human. We share a love of ideas and a generative attitude about this time in which we find ourselves. With all we know and are finding out about what makes us tick (and stumble), there is so much carryover of retroactive expectations and assumptions, so much we allow to stand in our way. May be it really is time to get our asses busy and build. Period. Enjoy!
Wow. So Tony and I go on a tear through our shared history and abiding love of music. He's from Manchester, UK, and he was intricately involved with the music scene there, starting with selling records out os his van, going upstairs at Virgin Rags (an early precursor to the Virgin records empire), following local acts like U2 and wrapped in the David Bowie phenomenon early on. We both see the possibility of a return to more local music, a move away from the domination of accounting and the blossoming of community-through-music, a landscape that encourages and provides venues for original artists who actually create music rather than layer lyrics on top of other people's samples. Along the way, we have quite a time, as both of us have developed intimately within the company of music.
Melissa is a delight. We've shared many conversations, always building on each other's ideas and energy. She brings an analytical approach to experience that fills in the gaps my loosely and widely ranging curiosity sometimes skips past. So we spend about an hour exploring how the brain works (or not), how much we overestimate our (illusion of) rationality, why facts don't matter in most conversations, how we can be self-skeptical and let go of shame, punching back, and much, much more. Mixing this podcast made me go back and listen to portions again and again. You can also sign up for Melissa's Neuronuggets, which are great fun and will make your brain explode. In a nice way.Sit back and enjoy Neuroscience, my guilty pleasure.
Jon and I share a passion for music. We both also have itchy feet. He has been in sales, marketing, training design, graphics, and more. Since 2013, he has been developing TBAIMS - Connecting through Music. He loves discovering musicians and performers who are distinctive, creative and willing to fight the good fight to be seen and heard. It's a tough business, and Jon provides all kinds of support and feedback to fuel their development.We travel together through the performing arts, rock and roll, Woodstock, the music industry, politics and greed in our conversation. Please join us and meet Jon, who holds nothing back as we realize that music abides.
Jag and I went round and round . . . and round for 6 weeks for a bunch of reasons before we sat down for a wonderful trip together. She is not to be trifled with, and we fed off each others' energy on our wild ride. Her story, her courage, her uninhibited version of life and its lessons will grab you. Please join us, buckle your seatbelts, and listen while she helps me - and all of us - get why it's easier for us to expel than inhale. Love and life, that is.
The beat goes on, doesn't it? My friend Shara suggested I get in touch with Kristina Holle. Here's what happened next: I discovered Kristina was following an expected path in the realms of the corporate world and suddenly veered off when that path grew narrower and narrower. Instead, she has chosen to explore and discover. Someone after my own heart. She recently published The Authentic You ,  and she astonished herself with the energy and focus that appeared during that project - it reinforced her faith in taking off on her own.Kristina is absolutely candid and courageous, and we fly through a conversation about possibilities and leaving fear behind, lighting up our own lives. As she suggests, Why wait for the end of the tunnel?
This is the first episode focused on Humanity@work. I'll be hosting a series of conversations based on a simple premise: setting aside the issue of pay (not to ignore the idea, but to set that apart), what do you want your job to provide for you and what do you want work not to do to you.?Join me with Shara, Andrew, Alex and Brett as we find that I can work better when I know where I am and I have my team around me.
Lots of change, lots of discomfort, lots of growth - Eileen Bild is living a no-holds-barred kind of life that many of us might find scary. Not that she is a spinning target for a knife-throwing act at the carnival, but because she embraces everything that comes her way. We bounce around and laugh as we explore pretty nearly everything in our time together, both of us engaging a time in our lives that is not the beginning and not the end, but that in-between state. Buckle your seat belts.
Our Humanity@Work

Our Humanity@Work


Last September, Shara Lewis-Campbell. Andrew Foster and I all came together and had an idea: How about if work felt more like purpose and less like a sentence?Last week, this idea was published: Humanity@Work, an ebook, paperback and hard copy that brought together over 35 people from around the world to contribute their insight about work. And life. And humanity.So join us for a little while as we laugh and talk and laugh about how all this came together and where we hope it goes. The project is completely pro bono, btw, all proceeds going to Doctors Without Borders.
So Sybil Cummin is the friend of a friend. She lives in Colorado, and she has quite a story. “Knock on any door” as people say. She is a very accomplished gymnast, outstanding student, and a recovering perfectionist. She takes herself not-too-seriously. Which is very important because her field is domestic violence and narcissistic abuse. Part of how she opened my eyes was when she focused on how much domestic abuse has risen during COVID, and especially how it has been underreported. It didn’t occur to me that someone who is a victim of abuse cannot call for help if s/he is in lockdown with the abuser.She also works with little ones, who seem to be doing much better than teenagers under the cloud of the virus. We have a wonderful and very moving conversation as we explore I might be a couple drops in the bucket.
Having run into Mike Vacanti more than once at Our Friendship Bench (I promise, only one more link!), I did one of those two kinds of people things we all can fall into. In this case, it’s ‘people I could be trapped in a lifeboat with’ and ‘people I would throw myself overboard if I were trapped in a lifeboat with.’ Mike is in category a.We run amok together as we explore boyhood, school (we both knew our high school principals very well indeed), the value of commitment over command in the workplace, the beauty of possibility, the scars we all carry and that sometimes itch, ‘deep matters of the heart and soul,’ and love. OMG, not Love! Much alike, I was, like Mike, known as the rambunctious kid.BTW, Mike is a featured contributor for Humanity@Work. 
I’ve run across (or into!) Mark O’Brien ( in several online conversations. From the first, I knew we’d be friends, for two reasons. First, Mark and I both love to write and love to explore and discover, even if we ruffle a few feathers—or entire flocks—in the process. Second, after Mark says something, I never need to stop and consider, “I wonder what’s really on his mind?”So we got together to talk. No surprise, we followed a jogging meander through writing, childhood, parents, courage, writing, literature, marriage, thinking, expectations, the nature of nature, and life bumps small and mammoth. Oh, did I mention writing? There is nothing like doing a podcast with someone to establish a friendship, btw. Little did I know . . . . Join us and find out how “There is a bee on the bridge” shines a bright light on our capacity for courage and love.
Competitive skier, off to college to play baseball, golfer, professor, experienced in mergers and acquisitions, and now Brian Sommer ( carries a passion for leadership and learning into his coaching work. We both love sports, through Brian is good at them. We both abide in a skeptical place, “separating what happens from what we say happens.” And we both discovered during our journey toward this meeting that teaching is both less and more than we thought.Throughout this conversation, we ask more questions than give each other answers, e.g. “Imagine if all the books throughout history were kept?” Our deep passion and excitement about learning brings us together, and we agree that the genius resides in the person in front of you. 
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