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On today's episode, I talk with Fanny Söderbäck, Associate Professor of Philosophy at DePaul University in Chicago, and co-founder & co-director of the Kristeva Circle. We discuss her book, Revolutionary Time: On Time and Difference in Kristeva and Irigaray (SUNY Press, 2019). Amber Fasquelle,
Carol Shumate teaches courses on psychological type at Pacifica Graduate Institute. She is editor of the journal Personality Type in Depth, and author of the book Projection and Personality Development via the Eight-Function Model—a model based on the work of psychiatrist and Jungian analyst John Beebe, and originating in Carl Jung’s work on psychological types. She holds a PhD in Comparative Literature from the University of Colorado, Boulder. Carol is currently working on a book on the trickster archetype in leadership, showing how leaders are pushed to acknowledge and grapple with this paradoxical aspect of the psyche.In today’s episode of the voice of all things, I talk with Carol about the origins of the MBTI—the Myers Briggs Type Indicator; a personality assessment tool that is widely used for self-development and discovery, as well as in companies and organizations for inter-personal skills assessment and team building. We discuss the development of personality type preferences in individuals, as well as C.G. Jung’s hope that understanding psychological types might lead to more harmonious interactions in our individual and collective lives.
Katherine Naegele is a consulting arborist based in the San Francisco Bay Area, where she runs Aesculus Arboricultural Consulting. She has been working with trees for nearly 15 years, first as an intern for the US Forest Service, then as a grad student at UC Berkeley, and finally as an International Society of Arboriculture Certified Arborist. She is also a classically-trained contralto.
An important figure in contemporary music, Quebec-based composer Ana Sokolović has distinguished herself internationally through her imaginative, rhythm-driven music, with repertoire that ranges from critically acclaimed operas and orchestra works to powerful solo and chamber pieces. Slumbers Kiss Your Eyes, Written by Ana SokolovićPerformed by Alexander Shelley, Canada's National Arts Centre Orchestra, Cantata Singers of Ottawa, Capital Chamber Choir, David DQ Lee, Ewashko Singers Article:"The Vocal Music of Ana Sokolović: Love Songs for theTwenty-First Century"By Tamara Bernstein,  in Circuit, Musiques Contemporaines
Robin Shumays is an African-American fashion designer based in Queens NY. She has been featured at the Harlem Fashion Week, Africa Fashion Week, and Fashion Envie shows in New York City, and has been highlighted in the press for her unique flair for fusing color and unusual themes, with cultural textiles. Currently, she is refining her skills as a designer under the tutelage of Henry Smith, lead instructor at So Harlem. She has also worked professionally as a web developer, graphic designer, social media consultant, and model. She is currently employed as a full-time UX Designer for a major insurance firm. Robin is also co-director and dance performer with Zikrayat, an Arabic Music and Dance Ensemble that has performed at Lincoln Center, Brooklyn Museum, William and Mary College, and throughout the Northeast. In June of 2021, she presented a paper entitled “Punk, Paisleys and Polkadots” on Prince and his influence on fashion through the 1980s at the 78-88: PRINCE, THE FIRST DECADE: Interdisciplinary Conference. In March of 2022, she presented another paper on Prince entitled “Bedlah Bedlam: An Exploration of Orientalist Fantasy and Fashion via the lens of Prince Rogers Nelson” for the #SexyMF30 Virtual Symposium. Once upon a time, Robin held a short-lived dream job as an administrative assistant at Prince’s publishing label, Paisley Park Music, and in 2020 she produced and co-hosted a webinar podcast on Prince called The Purple Paradigm. Of all of this, she feels her greatest accomplishment to date is being a mom to her greatest inspiration, her daughter, Mehrunnisa.Robin's IG: @hennaflowercouture
I talk with journalist Rana Husseini about her work in Jordan and the rest of the world, reporting on the lives of women who were murdered by family members for "committing crimes against the family's (so-called) honor." Books by Rana: Murder in the Name of Honour: The True Story of One Woman's Heroic Fight Against an Unbelievable CrimeYears of Struggle – The Women’s Movement in Jordan 
Safron Rossi is a member of the core faculty at Pacifica Graduate Institute. Her most recent book, The Kore Goddess, is an in-depth exploration of a mythic and psychic pattern that personifies an archetypal state of being in which a person becomes one-in-herself. By applying Jungian depth psychology to Ancient Greek imagery, Safron Rossi traces the reemergence of this archetype in contemporary individuation and soul-making. Safron's previous publications include Joseph Campbell's edited volume Goddesses: Mysteries of the Feminine Divine, and co-edited (with Keiron Le Grice) Jung on Astrology. As well as lecturing on myth and Jungian & archetypal psychology, Safron is an archetypal psychological astrologer. Visit her website at:https://www.thearchetypaleye.comFind her book, The Kore Goddess, published by Winter Press, at:
Sheri Greenawald has recently retired as San Francisco Opera Center Director. She has had a distinguished international operatic singing career as a soprano, noted in particular for her enormous range of roles. She has sung leading roles with (among others) San Francisco Opera, the Metropolitan Opera, Lyric Opera of Chicago, Venice’s La Fenice, the Munich State Opera, Paris’s Châtelet Theater, Welsh National Opera, Seattle Opera Company, Houston Grand Opera, the Netherlands Opera, Santa Fe Opera, Los Angeles Opera, Naples’s Teatro San Carlos and Opera Theatre of St. Louis. She has worked with most of opera’s great conductors and directors, and she is featured on several recordings, including singing the role of Birdie in Blitztein’s Regina conducted by John Mauceri and recorded on Decca. A graduate of the University of Northern Iowa, Greenawald completed the Professional Studies Program at the Juilliard School of Music and has received a Rockefeller Grant, NEA Grant, and was Seattle Opera Association’s Artist of the Year in 1998. She has taught privately, was a visiting artist at the University of Charleston, an Artist in Residence at the University of Northern Iowa, was the vocal coach of the Santa Fe Apprentice Program in 1999 and opera director for the program in 2000, and has given master classes the Opera Theatre of St. Louis. She was engaged in 2000/2001 as a professor of voice and opera at the Boston Conservatory, with a full vocal studio, coursework on English and American Song Repertory, and directed for the Opera Studio. From May 2002 to December, 2020, she was the Director of the San Francisco Opera Center and Artistic Director for the Merola Opera Program, both of which are distinguished young artist training programs.  Set Me as a Seal: Sheri Greenawald on Leonard Bernstein's The Americans, The Complete Recordings on Deutsche Grammaphon: Song from Monty Python: Soul's Code: In Search of Character and Calling, by James Hillman
Quynn Red Mountain is an Animist pastoral counselor, soul restoration practitioner and the author of two books- Accepting the Ashes-A Daughter's Look at Military PTSD and The Beginner's Field Guide to Full Circle Animism. For the last 20 years she has grown a nonprofit called Web of Life Animists that offers expansive circles, personal healing services and vocational trainings for Earth honoring people. Her offerings and mentorship have played an enormous part in my own spiritual growth and development, and in my healing and evolution toward living in wholeness, joy, and an abundance of peace and beauty. I highly recommend checking out Quynn's offerings:Website- to my book (Even My Voice Is Silence): 
Aisha Mershani is a queer Arab professor, photographer, artist-activist, and parent of two young children. Since 2002, her work has focused on Peace and Conflict Studies in the Middle East, with an emphasis on documenting the construction and the humanitarian effects of the Israeli Apartheid Wall in Occupied Palestine. As founder of Project Souarna (which means “our photos” in Arabic) Aisha conducted a photography workshop for refugee and displaced youth living in and near el Wehdat Refugee Camp in Amman, Jordan in 2009. The project brought together Palestinian, Iraqi, Kuwaiti, and Sudanese youth with international photographers and artists to create a body of work that expressed the situation of many living in the region through a child's eye. Her work comes from a place of concern about the injustices occuring in the Middle East, and a commitment to expose these injustices and educate those outside of the region. The expression of everyday life is the primary objective of her documentary photographic work.  Aisha  is currently an Assistant Professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at Gettysburg College and combines her scholarly work with her media activism.  Website & Photography: http://www.amershani.comPodcast: https://2queerarabz.comFollow Aisha on Instagram: @amershaniOmar Abbad (Musician):
Louise Austin is a 3rd year PhD student in the Department of Psychosocial and Psychoanalytic Studies in the University of Essex under the supervision of Kevin Lu.  Her collaborative and arts-based inquiry investigates the psychodynamics of the educator/learner relationship through a Jungian and intersubjective lens.  Louise has worked in the field of personal growth and adult education for 30 years and has trained as an integrative arts psychotherapist. She is currently course director at the Institute for Arts in Therapy and Education.  Her research interests challenge the emphasis on rational ways of knowing and the lack of attention paid to the role the unconscious plays in experiences of personal transformation.  Her research aims to balance mythos (imaginal and affective ways of knowing) with logos (rational and conceptual ways of knowing).  Louise is contributing to the nascent field of Jungian arts-based research with her collaborative imaginative engagement method and has recently set up the Jungian Arts Based Research forum with fellow PhD student Briony Clarke. Scholars/publications mentioned in today's episode: Susan Rowland, author of Jungian Arts-Based Research and "The Nuclear Enchantment of New Mexico," co-authored with Joel Weishaus Mary Watkins, author of Waking Dreams, Invisible Guests: The Development of Imaginal DialoguesSafron Rossi, author of The Kore Goddess: A Mythology and Psychology; Editor of Joseph Campbell’s Goddesses: Mysteries of the Feminine Divine Joy Schaverien, author of The Revealing Image https://www.joyschaverien.comGisela Labouvie-Vief, author of Psyche & Eros 
Teen girls in Western culture have been sexualized, vilified, disrespected, and often abused. But who are these young women, and how do we support their voices to be heard? Join me for a candid conversation with Shae Fenton and Annabelle Villafuerte, 15-yr-old "soulmate best friends" based in Tucson, Arizona. We talk about mental health, sex and gender dynamics, and what it's like to navigate the complex and complicated journey through adolescence into adulthood. Article mentioned: I highly recommend this BRILLIANT article on, written by Constance Grady, titled: Who Runs the World? Not Teen Girls Resources for Teens (adapted from For complete list of resources, please visit Suicide Hotline: 1-800-SUICIDE (784-2433) or the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-TALK (8255)Safe Place: 1-888-290-7233Project Safe Place provides access to immediate help and supportive resources for young people in crisis through a network of qualified agencies, trained volunteers and businesses in 32 states. Call the hotline to find out if the program operates in your state, or look online.The Trevor Project: 866-4-U-TREVORThe Trevor Project operates the only nationwide, around-the-clock crisis and suicide prevention helpline for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning (LGBTQ) youth. The Trevor Helpline is available as a resource to parents, family members and friends of young people as well. Visit for more information and resources for young people, including “Dear Trevor,” an online Q&A forum for non-time sensitive questions.https://www.jedfoundation.orgThe Jed Foundation works to reduce the stigma students feel about having or seeking treatment for emotional problems. It provides safe, accessible resources for students to help themselves or a friend.
In today's episode of the voice of all things, I speak with professor Susan Rowland. Susan Rowland has been a Jungian scholar publishing widely on Jung, feminism, and the arts. Her last book in that part of her career was Jungian Arts-Based Research and the Nuclear Enchantment with New Mexico, published in (2020) and co-authored with Joel Weishaus. Since 2015 she has been trying to find her voice through writing detective fiction about marginalized women. Her first novel, The Sacred Well Murders, will be published in 2022.Music:
This solo episode combines poetry and storytelling, from my experiences in Palestine, in a Buddhist monastery in the tradition of Thich Nhat Hanh, and the process of writing my fictionalized memoir, Even My Voice Is Silence. Book referenced: Dancing in the Flames: The Dark Goddess in the Transformation of Consciousness, by Marion Woodman and Elinor DicksonPoem referenced: The Fire in the Song, by David WhyteRoyalty-free music provided by: Music by <a href="/users/sergioacs-21415682/?tab=audio&amp;utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=audio&amp;utm_content=4224">SERGIOACS</a> from <a href=";utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=music&amp;utm_content=4224">Pixabay</a>
Deema Dabis is a Palestinian / Jordanian / American filmmaker, storyteller, plant lover and workshop facilitator based in Amman, Jordan.  She started her own company, Yansoon.herbs, in 2020, which doubles as an archive of plant knowledge and wisdom native to the Levant, offering products that feature these native plant species.  www.yansoon.ink pages: @deemah.dabis & @yansoon.herbs Also mentioned in this episode: Layla Feghali: https://www.riverroseremembrance.comOmar Abbad:
Naomi Shihab Nye is the Young People's Poet Laureate through the Poetry Foundation, Chicago. She is on faculty at Texas State University. Her most recent books are Everything Comes Next, The Tiny Journalist (which won both Texas poetry awards, from the Texas Institute of Letters and the Writers League of Texas), Cast Away (poems abouttrash), and Voices in the Air - Poems for Listeners. In today’s episode of the voice of all things, I talk with Naomi about the process of finding the voice through poetry.
Sydney Mancasola is a California-grown soprano who is enjoying an international operatic career. Based in Frankfurt, Germany, performance highlights have included appearances at the Metropolitan Opera, English National Opera, Komische Oper Berlin, and Oper Frankfurt. Sydney began her musical studies on the violin and completed her vocal degrees at the Oberlin Conservatory and the Academy of Vocal Arts. Sydney's performance of Bess in Missy Mazzoli’s Breaking the Waves was described by Simon Thompson in Seen and Heard International as “a marvel, extracting every scintilla of possibility from her soprano voice, from euphoria to misery via delirium. This is a total tour de force, and the show is worth seeing for her alone.” Listen in, as Sydney shares her perspectives on the early years of her professional opera career. 
Adam Yas is a singer/songwriter based in San Francisco. He has served as the frontman for a variety of rock outfits and is currently preparing his first solo release for the fall of 2021 on Trustpasser Records. His sound has been compared to Blonde Redhead, Flaming Lips, and Depeche Mode. I first met Adam around 2010 when he came to see me at UCSF because of some trouble he was having with his singing voice. Today we talk about his evolution as an artist, the heartbreak and inspiration of pursuing a career in the recording industry, and the beauty of becoming a father.  Adam's recent singles--Wild Horse Sun and Here from Afar--are available for streaming on Spotify, iTunes, and wherever you listen to music. 
G.O.L.D. (fka Coco Peila) is a rapper, singer, songwriter, producer, and innovator within Hip Hop and beyond. With the release of her "Pretty Girls" music video and subsequent media campaign, G.O.L.D. aims to lead a “pretty heist,” - busting open the doors of Societal Beauty Standards, a historically exclusive anti-woman, anti-Black, white supremacist club notorious for restricting access from Black women and girls. Join me as I talk with G.O.L.D. about race, identity, beauty, and spirituality, and discover how these contribute to her immense power and influence as a female hip hop artist.
On the surface, Erik Aadland and I would appear to be very unlikely friends. He is a conservative Republican; I am a Palestinian-American Muslim feminist who doesn’t affiliate with a political party. We met while we were graduate students in the depth psychology program at Pacifica Graduate Institute—which is a fairly unusual place to meet a West Point graduate and former U.S. army officer. And yet, our core ethics and guiding principles have consistently shown us to be more alike than different, often causing me to feel genuinely confused about the distinctions we make between liberals and conservatives, between empowered and disempowered, between those who appear to have a voice and those who do not. In today’s episode of the voice of all things, Erik and I discuss what compelled him to run for a seat in the United States Senate, and the influence of Jungian psychology on his vision for a more harmonious nation, guided by a belief that restoring the balance between masculine and feminine principles will also restore our humanity. You can find more information about Erik Aadland at       
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