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Let’s Rethink This is taking real conversations about mental illness from behind closed doors right out into the open. Hosted by Abby Berger, episodes will explore the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to manage the symptoms of mental illness, find belonging and purpose in your community, and gain the confidence to live a healthy, quality life.
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Date: April 4, 2022  Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Part Two: Celebrating Black History with Michelle and Pearl  Brief summary of show: We’re back with a second episode talking about the importance of celebrating Black History. In this episode, we talk about some lesser-known icons of Black history and issues of discrimination and stigma in healthcare.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 0:40 - 5:15 Black History Icon Maya Angelou  5:25 - 11:39 Sydney Poitnier & Cecily Tyson  12:22 - 21:19 Healthcare for Black Americans  22:43 - 25:05 How to Support Better Healthcare Practices without Biases List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: March 28, 2022  Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Integrating Physical & Mental Health with Michael and Janice Brief summary of show: This week, Michael and Janice join Abby to discuss the importance of integrating physical and mental healthcare and how the Healthcare Home program at Independence Center supports members’ health goals.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:13 - 1:52 Michael's background  1:53 - 3:34 Janice's Background 6:25 - 6:57 HCH in Other States  7:18 - 11:17 Day to Day in HCH Program  11:37 - 20:18 Eligibility for HCH & Accessibility for Members  20:45 - 22:58 Coordination of Care  23:32 - 25:56 Benefits for Members  26:06 - 28:13 Evolution of Healthcare Homes List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Healthcare Home Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: March 21, 2022  Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Celebrating Black History with Pearl & Michelle  Brief summary of show: This week I am speaking with two Independence Center members, Pearl and Michelle about Black History Month and how members and staff have been celebrating this month. Pearl and Michelle both participate in the member led group, The Conversation Stars Here. This group meets weekly, and their mission is to “promote unity, dialogue, action, and education to create a safe, antiracist, and equitable atmosphere of belonging. This group discusses all types of diversity, equity, and inclusion matters but for the purposes of this conversation we will be speaking about Black History Month. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:15 - 2:30 Pearl & Michelle's Background  3:09 - 5:05 Black History Month  5:15 - 5:56 Why Celebrating Black History is Important for Black People  6:31 - 7:53 Establishment of Conversation Starts Here  8:09 -  11:14 How 'Conversation Starts Here' Benefits Members  11:23 - 14:12 Why It's Important to Celebrate Black History Month in February  16:03 - 21:57 Celebrations of Black History  25:31 - 28:42 Blackfishing or Passing for Black  28:53 - 29:36 Celebrating Diversity 35:03 - 37:11 Stigma of Mental Illness in the Black Community 37:11 - 40:15 Importance of Black Providers in Mental Health Settings List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Passing Film Imitation of Life Film Black Girl, Bleu Film   Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: March 14, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Damele on More Inclusive Mental Healthcare for the LGBTQ+ Community  Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Damele Walton on his experience as a black male in the LGBTQ+ community. We discuss the importance of acceptance and some of Damele’s hopes for the future of mental healthcare for the LGBTQ+ community.  List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center The Spot Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: March 7, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Realizing Your Potential with DeAndra Smith Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with DeAndra Smith. DeAndra is a member at Independence Center who first came to IC homeless and in need of a lot of support. Over time, DeAndra realized his potential, got involved with the kitchen unit at the Clubhouse, participated as the member dancer in Dancing with the St. Louis Stars, and now serves on Independence Center’s Board of Directors. DeAndra shares his story and some of the things he has learned along the way.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:03 - 4:19 DeAndra's Background  8:05 - 9:25 Clubhouse International Conference 9:57 - 12:43 Dancing with the St. Louis Stars  13:55 - 16:45 Independence Center Board of Directors 16:45 - 18:25 Peer Specialist  19:15 - 20:55 How DeAndra Utilizes Clubhouse List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center DeAndra’s Performance  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcas
Date: February 25, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Putting Housing First with Chris Brannaman  Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Chris Brannaman about her new role as the Housing Liaison at Independence Center. This new role focuses on supporting those with behavioral health diagnosis find housing in the community and get connected to resources in the community. She explains the role, some of the other housing supports Independence Center offers, and how she continues to coordinate care with other programs at IC.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:23 - 7:18 Chris' Background  8:12 - 9:23 SCLP and HUD  9:36 - 15:04 Housing Liaison Position  16:04 - 19:06 Coordinated Entry & Rapid Reentry 19:53 - 21:51 Housing First  24:39 - 26:45 Staying Connected with Clubhouse List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Welcome Center Information  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: January 31, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: How to Get Connected to Services at Independence Center Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Leah Sanders about the Independence Center Welcome Center. The Welcome Center is the first point of contact for people looking to enroll in services at IC.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:11 - 3:48 What is the Welcome Center  4:06 - 4:44 How People Find Out About IC  5:20 - 6:06 Hospital Connection Linkages and Emergency Room Enhancement 6:32 - 7:06 What Happens Someone Is Not Eligible for Services  7:49 - 10:33 Coordination of Services at IC 11:05 - 13:01 Moving Welcome Center to 4245 Forest Park Ave. List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Welcome Center Information  314-533-4163 Independence Center Welcome Center Phone Number  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: January 24, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: A Conversation with Crowd Favorite George Brooks Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Independence Center member, Star Dancer, and winner of the Crowd Favorite award at Dancing with the St. Louis Stars 2022, George Brooks. We talk about George’s background growing up and how he learned he had paranoid schizophrenia. We also talk about Dancing with the St. Louis Stars, a special gift given by Abbey Eilermann from Daily Disco, and how support from another Star Dancer, Kevin Travers, makes a difference in George’s life.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:25 - 21:07 Growing Up George  22:45 - 24:52 Schizophrenia Diagnosis  25:16 - 28:06 Education & Employment  28:09 - 36:56 Dancing with the St. Louis Stars 2022 List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Dancing with the St. Louis Stars  George’s Bio  IC’s Employment Program  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: January 10, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Abby & Marco Talk Dancing with the St. Louis Stars Brief summary of show: Abby& Marco talking about Independence Center’s upcoming Dancing with the St. Louis Stars event happening on January 15th, 2022. The two discuss how the event got its start and why it is such an important event for Independence Center. Learn more about how fundraising at Dancing with the St. Louis Stars supports programs and services at Independence Center.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:11 - 6:00 What is Dancing with the St. Louis Stars 6:10 - 8:35 Pivoting to a Virtual Event  9:15 - 12:15 How Fundraising Supports Independence Center  12:41 - 15:59 How IC Supports Members  16:33 - 18:00 Member Dancer George Brooks List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Vote for George  Watch Dancing with the St. Louis Stars LIVE on January 15th at 8pm  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: December 20, 2021Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Road to Recovery with Mental Illness Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with Independence Center member, Trenda Davis. Trenda struggled with her mental illness disagnosis for quite some time before seeking treatment and support. Listen to what she has learned along the way about herself and how she is reshaping the common misconceptions about mental illness in the Black community by sharing her story. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:33 - 16:56 Trenda's Story 21:55 - 22:35 Acceptance of Mental Illness in the Black Community 23:26 - 28:08  Coming to the Clubhouse List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: December 13, 2021Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: How Meaningful Work Supports Mental Health RecoveryBrief summary of show: Mark & Sebastian from Vail Place in Minneapolis, MN join me to talk about the podcast they are working on launching, how their Clubhouse fundtions, and what they are most grateful for.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:44 - 5:55 Mark's Story 6:13 - 6:55 Sebastain's Story 7:30 - 10:57 Starting A Podcast 22:12 - 23:45 Vail Place 26:35 - 32:40 How Vail Place Has Helped List of resources mentioned in episode: Vail Place  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
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Date: November 30, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Gabe on Clubhouse  Brief summary of show: Today, we're talking to Gabe about his experience in the Clubhouse, working TE, and what's next for him. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:44 - 4:14 Working TE9:12 - 10:35 Building Relationships at Clubhouse List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Employment ProgramSocial media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: November 29, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number: Juatine Celebrates 6 Months As A Member  Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking to Juatine who is a new member and is celebrating 6 months of being a member at Independence Center. She talks about her background and how the Clubhouse and relationships she has built here have helped her manage her mental health.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:   2:07 - 4:45 Background 4:50 – 13:56 Coming to the Clubhouse  17:25 – 18:34 Helping Others with their Mental Health List of resources mentioned in episode:   Clubhouse Shop Facebook Page  Independence Center Job Openings  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast  Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram  Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast  
Date: November 22, 2021  Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Darryl Howard on How Work Supports Mental Health  Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking with Darryl Howard, who became a member of Independence Center in 2019. He has since completed a transitional employment position and has his own part time job. He attends Clubhouse when he is not working at his job.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  0:54 – 2:40 Darryl’s Background  4:30 - 8:30 Going Back to Work at Watlow 10:20 – 13:27  Attending Clubhouse & Building Friendships  List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Transitional Employment Program Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: November 15th, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Finding Support at the Clubhouse with Raija Mitchell Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Independence Center member, Raija. Raija has been a member since 2012 and has developed relationships with other members that have been very supportive to her mental health recovery.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:19 - 4:42 Raija’s Background   4:53 – 7:44 Working at the Clubhouse  9:16 - 12:48 Finding Relationships & Joy in Volunteering at Clubhouse  14:14 – 15:36 Being Yourself  List of resources mentioned in episode:  National Suicide Prevention Hotline   If you or someone you know is in crisis, please talk to somebody. You can call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or text “START” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741. National Sexual Assault Hotline Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
This week's episode is the 25th episode of the Let's Rethink This podcast. We are taking a moment to reflect and think back on the growth of the podcast. This episode features some of Abby's favorite responses to the question "If you could debunk one myth about mental illness, what would it be?"Featured Stories Brittny's Episode Jackie's Episode Karen's Episode Brian's Episode 
Date: 10/25/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number:  Importance of Digital Connection with Marco Mino Brief summary of show: I am talking with Marco Mino today. Marco has been a member at Independence Center since 2013. Marco has accomplished a lot during his time with the Clubhouse and recently relocated to Punta Gorda Florida. He participates in the Hope Clubhouse near him as well as virtually with Independence Center. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  2:30 - 16:26 Marco's Story  24:26 - 27:14 Stigma of Mental Illness  28:47 - 32:38 Digital Expansion of Clubhouse  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  Clubhouse International  Dancing with the St. Louis Stars  Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/ Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date: 10/18/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number: Increasing Investment in Global Mental Health with Dr. Ingrid Daniels Brief summary of show: Today we are speaking with Dr. Ingrid Daniels, hailing all the way from South Africa. Dr. Daniels is the CEO of Cape Mental Health, the oldest community based mental health nonprofit organization in South Africa. She has a Master's in Social Science – Clinical Social Work. She then completed her PhD in Social Work at the University of Cape Town. She also serves as the President of World Federation of Mental Health. She is committed to addressing global mental health challenges particularly in South Africa and in LMIC’s. She continues to actively advocate and seek creative and innovation solutions to address the mental health service delivery gaps and to ensure that mental health becomes a reality for all global citizens. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:42 - 6:47 Dr. Daniels Background 7:32 - 13:42 Cape Mental Health  14:20 - 18:09 Mental Health Care in South Africa  18:49 - 21:45 World Federation for Mental Health  22:19 - 26:10 World Mental Health Day  26:47 - 33:40 Investment in & Support of Mental Health Globally List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  Cape Mental Health  Clubhouse International  World Federation for Mental Health World Mental Health Congress  Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/ Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date 10/11/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number: Raising Mentally Healthy Children with Julie Tang  Brief summary of show: Julie Tang is a longtime supporter of Independence Center and founder of an organization called Starting the Conversation which is focused on raising mentally fit children. Since her retirement from the federal government, she has worked more closely with Starting the Conversation to build its impact and reach in the community. She is also currently pursuing her Masters of Social Work degree from the Brown School at Washington University in St. Louis.  Today we are going to talk to Julie about how the organization got it’s start, why it is so important to educate and support children  on mental health, and what the future of the organization looks like. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:36 - 2:25 Julie’s Background  2:36 – 7:46  Inception of Starting the Conversation  10:14 - 11:05 Talking about Mental Health More Openly  11:30 - 15:29 Format & Audience of Panel Discussions 17:09 - 22:55 Partnership with Gateway Region YMCA 24:25 – 27:30 Master of Social Work  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  Upcoming Starting the Conversation Event – Tuesday, October 19th Starting the Conversation  Gateway Region YMCA  Brown School of Social Work at Washington University in St. Louis Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/ Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date: 09/27/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number: Using Outreach to Build Community  Brief summary of show: We are talking to Cassandra Burries and Naomi Holland today about the 3700 project, a disease management project through the Missouri Department of Mental Health. Cassandra is a member and a Board member at IC and Naomi is a staff leader for 3700. We are going to talk about both of their backgrounds, how they first got involved with 3700 project, how it operates within Independence Center and a couple other cool things they are working on. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:29 –  Naomi & Cassandra’s Introduction 9:02 –  13:12 3700 Project  13:14 – 18:55 Importance of Outreach for the 3700 Project  18:56 - 20:24 Stages of Change Model  26:14 – 30:48 Cassandra’s Work as A Peer Specialist  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  DMH 3700 Project  Peer Support Program  Stages of Change Model  Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/ Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod
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