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Let’s Rethink This is taking real conversations about mental illness from behind closed doors right out into the open. Hosted by Abby Berger, episodes will explore the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to manage the symptoms of mental illness, find belonging and purpose in your community, and gain the confidence to live a healthy, quality life.
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Date: 09/20/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Addressing Global Mental Health with Jack Yatsko Brief summary of show:  Today I am speaking with Jack Yatsko, Chief Operating Officer at Clubhouse International. Jack’s role includes overseeing the programs at Clubhouse International, new clubhouse development, training, and supporting training bases. He has been in the social work field for his entire career. He has a master's in Social Work and started his Clubhouse career as the Clubhouse Director of Friendship House in Hawaii. Clubhouse International focuses on expanding the Clubhouse model around the world, accredits new and existing Clubhouses to meet standards, trains, promotes public awareness, advocates for more funding and support of mental health programs, and develops and enhances research approaches to measure effectiveness of the Clubhouse model. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:17 - 3:34 Jack’s Background & Connection to Clubhouse International  3:51 - 9:09 What is a Clubhouse International? 10:00 - 12:40 Supportive Care Community  14:05 - 18:17 Becoming a Global Organization 19:12 – 21:39 Clubhouse Work Order Day, Units, and Standards  22:41 - 27:17 International Partnerships 33:41 – 38:30 Landscape of Mental Health During the Pandemic  List of resources mentioned in episode:  Clubhouse International Employment Program Social media handles, shareable link of podcast: Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Get Connected with Jack  American Psychiatric Association Honors Clubhouse International  Hilton Humanitarian Prize  Lancet Commission WHO Includes Clubhouse Model in New Guidance on Community Mental Health Services  
Date:  09/13/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Living with High Functioning Depression & Anxiety  Brief summary of show: Today I’d like to introduce Danielle Rose. Danielle is a program participant or what we refer to as member at Independence Center. Danielle has recently returned to work after a seven-year gap in her employment. We are going to be talking to her about her experience as a member of Independence Center, how and why she chose to return to work, and how the Clubhouse continues to support her in her goals. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:01 – 6:50 Danielle's Story  8:20 – 10:18 Receiving A Mental Health Diagnosis  13:01 – 14:05 Network of Support  15:26 - 23:44 Independence Center Clubhouse  26:45 – 30:00 Returning to Work  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  Independence Center Clubhouse Program  Transitional, Supported, and Independent Employment Programs  Calls to Action  Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/ Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date: 09/06/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: The Power of Performance Art in Managing Mental Health  Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with Angelo Blanchard, Katie Hayes and Paula Heller. Katie is the outreach coordinator at STAGES St Louis. If you have not heard of Stages, it is a local theatre that is committed to preserving and advancing the art form of musical theatre through excellence in performance and education. Paula is a licensed professional counselor and registered drama therapist who works with individuals, couples, and families and leads Drama Therapy Groups. Angelo is a member at Independence Center and along with his outreach work for IC also participates in the IC Players, the Clubhouse’s acting group. We are going to talk about how the arts and in particular performance art can support better mental health in our community.   Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:15 - 12:33 Katie, Angelo, and Paula’s Backgrounds  13:06 - 16:04 STAGES St. Louis  17:25 -18:05 Accessibility of Performance Art in the Community  19:15 – 20:59 Drama Therapy  21:20 – 30:52 IC Players & Power of Performance  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  North American Drama Therapy Association  STAGES St. Louis or contact the Box Office at 314.821.2407 Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast  Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date: August 30, 2021  Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: A Better Way: Moving from Addiction to Mental Wellness with Brian WeddingtonBrief summary of show: Today I’d like to introduce Brian Weddington. Brian is a newer member at Independence Center, coming into services in 2020. Since joining Independence Center, he has become a peer specialist, completed his HiSET, enrolled at UMSL, moved into his own apartment, and has started interviewing for different jobs. We are going to spend a little time hearing Brian’s story and learn more about what he is up to now. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:25 - 9:09 Brian’s Story  11:24 –15:01 Maintaining Sobriety 15:15 - 32:16 Charlie & BHN’s Emergency Room Enhancement Program  32:56 - 37:12 Living Independently  37:54 - 42:22 Managing Mental Health & Keeping Sobriety During the Pandemic  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  Suicide Statistics Drug Abuse Statistics Emergency Room Enhancement Program  Stepping Into the Light Ministries  Depaul Mental Health Urgent Care & In Patient Facilities  Independence Center Clubhouse Program Independence Center Residential Program   Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast  Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date:  August 23, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Zero Suicide with Kirsten Sierra and Maria Needham  Brief summary of show: We are going to be talking about Zero Suicide, which promotes safer care for those at risk of suicide. Zero Suicide believes that suicide is preventable and that the only acceptable number of losses due to errors in quality of care is zero. Today I am speaking with Kirsten Sierra, who has both her MSW and LCSW and works at Mercy as their first ever Zero Suicide Coordinator and Maria Needham who has her Bachelors of Social Work and works at Independence Center as a Community Support Specialists. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:31 – 5:31 Kirsten and Maria’s Backgrounds  5:59 – 6:45 Suicide Stats  7:02 – 12:33 Suicidal Ideation 14:13 - 17:42 How to Support Somone with Suicidal Ideation 20:34 - 23:38 Mission of Zero Suicide 24:02 – 25:58 Mercy Health System’s Approach to Zero Suicide  30:07 – 33:46 Steps We Can Take to Prevent Suicide  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  American Foundation for Suicide Prevention Zero Suicide NAMI  If you or someone you know is in crisis, please talk to somebody. You can call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or text “START” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741. Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/ Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date: August 16, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 014 The Conversation Starts Here Brief summary of show: Today I am talking one of Independence Center’s Community Support Specialists, Jordan Palmer. Jordan has been working as a CSS for 3 years and is current pursuing her masters in social work at Washington University in St. Louis.  Aside from managing a caseload, Jordan also is very involved with Independence Center’s Diversity, Equity and Inclusion work and did her practicuum project specifically addressing how racism intersects with mental health. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:00 – 6:16 What is a Community Support Specialists Role  8:12 – 14:48 Master of Social Work 14:49 – 21:16 Racism x Mental Health  21:17 - 22:00 Sharing the Project  List of resources mentioned in episode:  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Follow Independence Center on Facebook  Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Black Girl, Bleu

Black Girl, Bleu

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Date: August 9, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Black Girl, Bleu  Brief summary of show:  Today I am talking to Sharee Silerio. Sharee Silerio is a St. Louis-born, raised and based writer, director and producer who focuses on telling stories where Black women + girls exist as full human beings on screen and feel seen, heard, loved and affirmed beyond the screen. She recently completed her fourth short documentary Black Girl, Bleu, a conversation with Black women about the Strong Black Woman myth and how it impacts the mental health challenges they’ve been through, face and have overcome. We talk about how Sharee got her start, why Black women are centered in her latest documentary, and what’s next.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  2:14 - 4:15 Sharee’s Story 5:14 - 9:26 Starts with Story Telling 9:55 - 12:11 Starts in Production  12:48 - 18:09 Inspiration & About Black Girl, Bleu  25:34 – 27:33 How to Watch Black Girl, Bleu  27:54 – 34:15 Black Girl Bleu, The Community  42:05 – 43:48 What’s Next for Sharee List of resources mentioned in episode:  Greater St. Louis Association of Black Journalists Black Girl, Bleu  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Black Girl Bleu Instagram Black Girl Bleu Facebook Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram 
Date: August 2 , 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 012 Young at Heart  Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with two people from Independence Center about mental health supports for older adults. Pat Marshall is a team lead at the Clubhouse and Karen Cox- Miller is a long-time member. Pat and Karen help to co-lead a group at IC called the Young at Heart group. This group is specifically for members 55 and older to socialize, connect, and support one another. This program has evolved over the last couple of years and now the group is more active than ever. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  1:00 - 2:41 Pat & Karen’s Stories  5:09 – 7:52 How Young at Heart fits within the Clubhouse model  8:09 – 13:01 Partnerships with Young at Heart Groups  13:30 - 14:49 Staying Connected Virtually  15:10 – 18:19 Marillac Mission Fund Grant for OT Services  23:45 – 27:11 St. Louis County Technology Grant for Seniors  List of resources mentioned in episode:  St. Louis Area Agency on Aging Marillac Mission Fund  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: July 26, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number: Episode 011 Let's Talk Trans, Part 2 Brief summary of show: The second part of this episode focuses on mental health statistics for trans folks, how MTUG supports the transexpansive community in and around St. Louis, and how you can get in contact with Sayer and the people at MTUG. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:   0:49 - 5:55 Intersection of Mental Health and Trans Identities  7:35 - 8:21 Stats on Trans Folks  8:28 - 12:04 Services that MTUG Offers 14:04- 17:47 Discrimination in the Trans Community  22:02 – 23:17 How to Contact MTUG & Upcoming Events  List of resources mentioned in episode:   Disclosure Documentary Preview History of Trans Identity Trans Equity Stats Metro Trans Umbrella Group Mary Oliver’s The Journey  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast  Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram  Follow MTUG on Facebook Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: July 19, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number: Episode 010  Let's Talk Trans, Part 1Brief summary of show: Today we are talking to Sayer Johnson from the Metro Trans Umbrella Group or MTUG. Sayer started MTUG in 2015 with the intention of bringing together the transgender community in the St. Louis Metro Area, the organization now serves all individuals that fall under the “umbrella term” of Trans which includes but is not limited to: transexuals, genderqueer, androgynous, agender, intersex, drag, and questioning and helps to mend the resource gaps, provide support, and resources to Trans folks in St. Louis. We talk about Sayer’s lived experience as a Trans person.   Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:   2:10- 6:00 Sayer’s Story  6:44 – 9:28 Transgender Identity 11:09 - 15:30 Pronouns 16:12 – 18:28 Gender Identity v Sexual Orientation 19:14 – 22:40 History of Trans Identity in Medical Community  27:46 - 29:29 Gender Euphoria  List of resources mentioned in episode:   History of Trans Identity Metro Trans Umbrella Group Social media handles, shareable link of podcast  Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram  Follow MTUG on Facebook Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: July 12, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 009 Living & Working with A Mental Illness Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with an old friend, Gabriella Carbone. Gabriella has her bachelor of arts in public and community services studies at Providence College and completed her master of social work from Hunter College. She now works with unhoused adults at the Bowery Mission in New York City assessing for need, creating individual action plans, and managing crisis situations. We are talking about living with a mental illness while working in the social services field. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  0:28 – 0:39 Bowery Mission 4:17 – 5:56 Receiving a Mental Illness Diagnosis  9:42 - 11:05 Finding Support from Others with Mental Illness 11:44 -15:09 Working with Unhoused Adults  16:30 – 18:33 Housing and Mental Health Interdependence  19:02 – 21:16 Maintaining Mental Health  List of resources mentioned in episode:  The Bowery Mission in New York City  Breaking Ground NYC Mayor’s Office Mental Health Dashboard What is supportive housing? Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram 
Date: July 5, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 008 Local Artist Discusses Mental Illness & Education Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Independence Center member, Angel. Angel has been a member at IC for 4 years and has grown so much. We worked on a project together back in 2018 called the 40 stories in 40 days project where we created short videos of members sharing their life stories and published them on YouTube and the Independence Center Facebook page. Jump forward a couple years and Angel is now preparing to graduate with her associates degree in fine arts and is working toward completing a bachelors in video editing and film.   Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  9:05 – 10:27 Education Program  10:30– 11:50 Stats about SMI and Education 15:49 - 17:01 Finding Support During School  17:44 – 19:12 Advice for Going to School with a SMI  List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Education Program  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: June 28, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 007 Legal Advocacy for Adults with Mental Illness with Legal Services of Eastern Missouri Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Ayana Dobos, who is a staff attorney at Legal Services of Eastern Missouri. Ayana has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice & Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness. She completed her Juris Doctorate at Emory University School of Law and now practices in St. Louis, MO. She is the Program Director & Attorney for the LAAAMI. LAAMI stands for Legal Advocacy for Adults with Mental Illness. We will be discussing how this program helps people living with or at risk of developing mental illness address legal problems through a combination of legal and social work assistance.   Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  4:55 - 6:20 LAAMI Explained 7:05 – 9:43 State Guardianships  9:45 – 14:38 Expungement: What is it? How does it help people with mental illness? List of resources mentioned in episode:  Legal Advocacy for Adults with Mental Illness Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Legal Services of Eastern Missouri on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn   Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram Become a Loyal Listener and support the podcast 
Date: June 21, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 006 How Employers Can Support Those Living with A Mental Illness Brief summary of show:  Today I am talking with Stephanie Girard, Director of Human Resources at Chase Park Plaza Royal Sonesta Hotel and Chris Hampel, member at Independence Center and Private Residence Engineer at the Chase Park Plaza. We’re going to be talking about how companies can help those living with a mental illness be successful in their employment goals.   Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  2:24 – 6:20 Chris's Story  09:03 - 18:23 Transitional Employment  18:24 – 21:18 Supported Employment  34:43 – 37:21 Staying connected to the Clubhouse while working  List of resources mentioned in episode:  Independence Center Employment Program Information Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Chase Park Plaza Website  Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram 
Date: June 14th, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 005 Developing Mental Health Urgent Cares with SSM Health Brief summary of show:  I am very excited to be talking with Michelle Schafer, Regional Vice President of Behavioral Health at SSM Health. Michelle oversees the operations of the entire Behavioral Health Service Line at SSM including inpatient and outpatient care for geriatric, adult, adolescent and child populations, emergency services, telemedicine, and medical stabilization. Today we are going to be talking with her specifically about a new service introduced mid 2020, the SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care located at Depaul Hospital. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  6:00 - 13:04 Defining what the SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care is  14:53- 23:37 History & Establishment of a Behavioral Health Urgent Care Model  25:33 - 30:32 Physical Design & Overall Environment of the Urgent Care 37:43 - 40:22 Collaborative Approach  List of resources mentioned in episode:  SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care Phone Number 314- 344- 7200 SSM Behavioral Health Urgent Care website  Social media handles, shareable link of podcast You can find SSM on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and Twitter  Follow Us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Date: June 7th, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 004 Systemic Approaches to Behavioral Health Brief summary of show:  Today, I am talking with Behavioral Health Network of Greater St. Louis (BHN) and we have three great guests on the show. Sally Haywood is the Senior Director of Strategic Initiatives, Rose Jackson-Beavers is the Director of Faith Initiatives, and Christie Becker-Markovich is the Director of Recovery Initiatives.  BHN is committed to improving the overall system of care and support, helping people with behavioral health needs get the help they need when and where they need it. This ensures that people get treatment before their illnesses become more serious, more complex, and more difficult and costly to treat. All three of these women work at approaching systemic change and improvement to the behavioral health system in and with different spaces in the community. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  7:57 –11:17 What is BHN 13:30 – 17:05 Complex Care Work & Emergency Room Enhancement  18:35- 21:35 EPICC: Engaging Patients in Care Coordination 21:40 - 27:29 Sobering Center  27:34 – 39:23 Bridges to Care and Recovery List of resources mentioned in episode:  National Center on Complex Care Social media handles, shareable link of podcast Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram 
Date: May 31, 2021 Name of Show:  Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 003 Supporting Care Partners with NAMI Brief summary of show:  Today we are going to be talking with Jackie Hudson, former staff member and longtime NAMI volunteer and Angela Berra, Director of Programs for NAMI St. Louis about what care partners wish they knew when a friend or family was diagnosed with a severe mental illness. We talk about first person experiences of supporting family members living with a mental illness and talk about the resources NAMI offers.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  7:57 – 17:28 Angela shares about all the programs NAMI STL offers  23:16 –29:09 Jackie and Angela share about the mental illness diagnosis and care plans and the importance of individual care plans; the importance of having someone with lived experience supporting others with a new diagnosis  30:00 – 34:40 NAMI on a national level, advocacy, national conferences on best practices  List of resources mentioned in episode:  NAMI STL HelpLine, 314-962-4670, info@namistl.org  Behavioral Health Response Crisis Line, 1-800-811-4760 Independence Center Clubhouse Services  List of NAMI Programming Social media handles, shareable link of podcast You can find NAMI on Facebook and YouTube @NAMIStLouis, or Instagram and Twitter @NAMISTL Follow Us @letsrethinkthispod on Instagram  
Date: May 24, 2021  Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This  Episode title and number: Bob Harvey & The Power of Community 002 Brief summary of show: This week I am talking with Bob Harvey, founding director of Independence Center, a nonprofit in St. Louis serving adults with mental illness. Bob talks about how he got his start in mental health, the formation of Independence Center, the importance of returning to work, and what the future of mental health looks like.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:   12:05 Community Mental Health Act  31:45 The Importance of Work  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:   Community Mental Health Act  Places for People  Clubhouse International   Independence Center Employment Program  Calls to action:   Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/  Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Brittny Adams

Brittny Adams

2021-05-1751:01

Date: May 17, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Brittny Adams on Living with a Mental Illness 001Brief summary of show: Introducing, Let’s Rethink This, a podcast exploring the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to manage the symptoms of mental illness, find belonging and purpose in your community, and gain the confidence to live a healthy, quality life. Our first guest is Brittny Adams, a person living with a severe mental illness and a recovering addict. She shares her story and talks about the importance of understanding mental illness in order to build resilience.  Bullet points of key topics & timestamps:  0:09-2:43 What to expect from Let’s Rethink This  2:45–10:56 Brittny’s Story  15:18 3700 project  List of resources mentioned in episode, suggested reading, social media handles:  DMH 3700 Project https://dmh.mo.gov/media/pdf/disease-management-projects-dm-3700-and-sud-dm-policy-manual Peer Support Program https://dmh.mo.gov/behavioral-health/treatment-services/specialized-programs/peer-support-services National Institute of Mental Health https://www.nimh.nih.gov/  Calls to action:  Subscribe to our podcast here: https://letsrethinkthis.buzzsprout.com/ Follow us on Instagram @letsrethinkthispod 
Introducing Let’s Rethink This, a new podcast about mental illness. Hosted by Abby Berger, episodes will explore the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to manage the symptoms of mental illness, find belonging and purpose in your community, and gain the confidence to live a healthy, quality life.
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