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Author: Cathy Heller

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Are you thirsty for more joy in your everyday? Do you want to get paid to do what you love? Do you want to figure out your greatest passion, your purpose, and how to turn that into a profitable, thriving full-time career? Each week, host Cathy Heller has honest conversations with successful creative entrepreneurs about the hands-on, practical steps to make a living doing what lights you up, and build a life that you can't wait to wake up to every single day. You've got so much to contribute and Cathy is here to help you do it. Follow Cathy @cathy.heller on Instagram for daily sparks of inspiration. Subscribe to Don't Keep Your Day Job and share the show with someone who needs to hear it. We're on a mission to make this a brighter, happier, and more fulfilled place - and you can help us make this possible.
287 Episodes
What possibilities are really available to you? Today's episode features 2 special coaching sessions with Cathy and students Sadie Simper and Oswald Perez, who were struggling with feeling depleted and stagnant. This will open your eyes to how words can be turned into art, raise your rates, attract the clients who will pay for what your work is worth, and step into a new awakening. - Apply to join the 7 Figure Sisterhood and learn Cathy's 7 Figure Launch Formula! Applications due July 17th - Join us August 3 & 4 for the virtual Arrive Summit! - Follow Oswald on Instagram @oswaldperez85 and sign up for his newsletter - Follow Sadie Simper on Instagram @sadiesimperdesigns and - Listen to Sadie's $10,000 success story - Thanks ExpressVPN! for 3 months free on a one-year package
How can you conjure up 20 seconds of insane courage that could change your life? Bob Goff, founder of Love Does, bestselling author, speaker, podcaster, and coach was a lawyer who realized he had a bigger purpose to help millions dream big, make life more awesome, and unlock their potential to love and be loved greater. He shares how much power there can be in making yourself available, how to stop getting distracted from the things that you're still hanging onto, and how to use his Dream Big Framework so you can get clarity on your dreams and make them come to life. - Get your early bird ticket to the virtual Arrive Summit, August 3-4th! - for all of Bob's books, workshops, and podcast - Follow Bob on Instagram @bobgoff - Thanks ExpressVPN! Get 3 months free on a one-year package at
Cathy shares her recent experience of loss, legacy, and unconditional love.
How can telling your authentic story completely alter your destiny? Jamie Kern Lima, cofounder of IT Cosmetics, entrepreneur, philanthropist, and speaker was getting rejections for 3 years and really struggled to get her business off the ground. But her persistence and belief in her mission led to a 10 minute opportunity on QVC that would ultimately fuel her calling to empower women, and lead to a billion dollar success story. She shares why it's important to know your Why, how to stay focused when you're constantly hit with the no's and the doubters, and how to stay authentically true to you so you can connect with the people who need your gifts. - Follow Jamie on Instagram @jamiekernlima - Thanks KiwiCo! Get 30% off your first month on selected crates at
How can you let go of the should's that have kept you stuck your whole life? Tricia Huffman, better known as Your Joyologist, is a coach, speaker, entrepreneur and podcaster who was touring as a sound engineer when she realized she could invent a new role and help successful musicians on a deeper level to claim more joy and purpose in their life. She shares how to choose what makes you come alive, stop letting other people's judgment keep you from living your dream, and discover the key to becoming fulfilled. - Follow Tricia on Instagram @yourjoyologist - Links to Tricia's Own Your Awesome app, affirmation cards, and YouTube series at - Listen to Tricia's podcast Claim It! with Your Joyologist wherever you get your podcasts - Thanks Azlo! for a Free copy of Azlo’s Small Business Starter Guide.
How do you look for the good when the world can feel like a dark and challenging place? Jason Mraz, Grammy Award winning, multi-platinum artist, singer songwriter, and musician has sold millions of albums and performed all around the world - but he has always stayed grounded in being a vessel for goodness and kindness. He shares how to stop worrying about what other people think of you, how to live in alignment through your words, actions, beliefs, thoughts, and attitude, and how to enjoy the messiness of creating something great. - Get Jason's newest album Look for the Good on Apple Music or buy the vinyl
How can your excitement and passion for making other people feel good become a multimillion dollar brand? Alli Webb, cofounder of Drybar and Squeeze is one of the nation's most celebrated entrepreneurs, and everything she's built has been done without a college degree. She shares how to create an unforgettable experience for your customers, how to raise the bar among the competition, and why self care is an essential ingredient so you can show up as the best version of yourself. - Follow Alli Webb on Instagram @alliwebb, Drybar @thedrybar and Squeeze @squeeze - Thanks Purple! Get $150 off any Purple mattress order of $1500 or more at, code dreamjob - Thanks Book of the Month! Get your first book for $9.99 at, code dreamjob
How can you change your beliefs that keep you stuck? Byron Katie, bestselling author and founder of The Work had to hit rock bottom before discovering the power of The Work and helping millions of others around the world. She shares how to use her 4 questions + the turnaround to revolutionize your life, how to build awareness around the self induced lies that no longer serve you, and how to take responsibility for your freedom and happiness. - More of Byron Katie at - Get the Judge Your Neighbor Worksheet & more resources available here - Thanks Fiverr!, code dream for 10% off your first order. - Thanks ShipStation!, code dreamjob for a Free 60 day trial
How do you stop playing small and step into the role you're meant to be? Today's episode celebrates the journeys of 4 more Made to Do This students! Find out how Jayati Vora, Bree-Anna Vincent, Laura McNeice, and Angie Bailey discovered their voice, pivoted towards where they could serve, and began growing online businesses that have taken flight. Support our amazing students! Jayati Vora - Website Use code Cathy for $40 off the adult writing workshops or 1:1 coaching - Instagram @jayativora - Listen to Jayati's podcast Cutting Chai Stories wherever you listen to podcasts! - Facebook Group - Sign up for Jayati's workshop with VAWAA (Vacation with an Artist) June 14th! - Join the online open art studios with Jayati & more MTDT students on June 20th! All proceeds go to Black Art Futures Fund & NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Bree-Anna Vincent - Instagram @breeannavincent - Get the details on all Bree-Anna's upcoming projects (book, Thrive Coach Academy) here Laura McNeice - Join Laura's Thursday paint nights! - Website - Instagram @lauramcneiceart - Facebook Group Angie Bailey - Learn calligraphy from Angie in her Fabulous Faux Calligraphy Course! Use code DKYDJ for 25% off - Website: - Instagram @angiebaileyartandsoul - Facebook Group - Thanks Express VPN! for an extra 3 months free on a one-year package
How can you stop making excuses and choose to move forward? John O'Leary, bestselling author, world renowned speaker, and podcaster uses his story of surviving a traumatic fire to inspire others to get out of their own way and make the most of their life. He shares a morning routine you can practice to find gratitude, the 5 senses to reawaken your childlike awe, and the ways you can free yourself from your own limitations. - Get your copy of In Awe by John O'Leary! - Thanks Bombas! to get 20% off your first order
In support of the black community, we're shining a light on the inspiring stories and wisdom from these brilliant black female entrepreneurs. You'll hear from amazing guests like Morgan Harper Nichols, Jenné Claiborne, Jamila Souffrant, Ahyiana Angel, Tomi Makanjuola, Gail Keyes Allen, Patrice Washington, Jessica Huie, and Jadah Sellner on how they've paved their own entrepreneurial path, found the courage to make their voices heard, and how you can follow in their footsteps to create a life you love. Check out what these amazing ladies are creating & give them some love! - Morgan Harper Nichols:, IG @morganharpernichols - Gail Keyes Allen:, IG @gailkeyesallen - Tomi Makanjuola:, IG @vegannigerian - Jenné Claiborne:, IG @sweetpotatosoul - Jessica Huie:, IG @jessica_huie_ - Ahyiana Angel:,, IG @ahyiana.angel - Jamila Souffrant:, IG @journeytolaunch - Patrice Washington:, IG @seekwisdompcw - Jadah Sellner:, IG @jadahsellner
How can you monetize your creative gifts? Jennifer Allwood, business coach, entrepreneur, podcaster and author took many turns in her career, and ultimately found her calling by helping women build a lucrative business using their talents. She shares the 7 ways you can make money online, how to grow your following on social media, and how to get unstuck from your fear so you can show up in the world and live the life you desire. - Read Jennifer's book Fear is Not The Boss of You - Listen to The Jennifer Allwood Show wherever you get your podcasts - Follow Jennifer on Instagram @jenniferallwood - Thanks KiwiCo! to get your first month Free on select crates
How do you create deep relationships with your audience and figure out what they want? Gaby Dalkin was a picky eater who challenged the doubters and became a 3x cookbook author, trained chef, recipe developer, entrepreneur, and food & lifestyle blogger with a product line in Williams Sonoma. She shares how to poll and engage your audience on social media, how to stand out by telling your story, how revealing the painful times in her life expanded her community, and how to become a person who manifests their own dreams. - Get your copy of Gaby's new cookbook! Eat What You Want - Join Gaby's culinary school! - Follow Gaby on Instagram @whatsgabycookin
What are the steps to create, sell, and deliver an online course that will get people results? Greg Smith, cofounder of Thinkific, built the online platform to allow entrepreneurs to teach what they love and expand their business. He shares how to develop trust with your new students, how to get clarity on the result and the steps you want to take them through, why you need a community around your course, and how to make the best experience for the people you're going to impact. - Grab Greg's resource list! - Thanks Purple!, code dreamjob for $150 off any mattress order of $1500 or more
When you have the courage to serve and put your offer in the world, what possibilities could arise? We feature 4 more stories from our Made to Do This students - Nadine Kenney Johnstone, Maddie Cartwright, Hannah Blunk, and Gail Keyes Allen - who showed up to do the work, served their audience through generosity, broke through their upper ceiling and took the scary step to make a paid offer. You'll hear how they've now been able to leave the day job behind, triple their income, and sustain their business during times of major pivots. - Do you want to be coached by Cathy? Join Made to Do This! - Watch the replays from our free 5 day challenge - Thanks Bombas! for 20% off your first purchase Support all our fabulous students! Nadine Kenney Johnstone - Website: - IG: @nadinekenneyjohnstone - Free 4-day Author-preneur Fest! May 26-29, 2pm CT - Publicity (in Your PJs) Program (begins May 31st!) Enter code cathy20 to get 20% off - For all Nadine's offerings Maddie Cartwright - Website: - IG: - Facebook: Hannah Blunk - Website: - IG: @the.orderly.nest  - Facebook Group: - Sip & Sort Email Newsletter: - Sip & Sort Podcast Gail Keyes Allen: - Website: - IG: @gailkeyesallen - Facebook Page: - Facebook Group: - Gail's offerings: - Midlife Moneymaker Podcast
How can you make a living by showing up and being the true version of yourself? Laura Belgray, copy expert and co-creator of The Copy Cure returns (for a third time!) to share her best tips on how to be prolific and rise above average, how to make the most of this time and make your pivot, how to authentically connect with your email list when you have something to sell, and how to get paid to be you. - Watch the replay videos from our free 5 day challenge - Take our life changing program Made to Do This! - Join The Copy Cure with Laura and Marie Forleo! Doors close May 20th - Sign up for Laura's newsletter at - Thanks Fiverr! code dreamjob for 10% off your first order. - Thanks Skillshare! for 2 Free months
What money beliefs are keeping you stuck from making the money you deserve? In this bonus episode, Cathy shares a powerful session from our challenge about how to let go of the lies you tell yourself, raise your prices and your worth, and give yourself permission to have more money so you can spread your generosity to the world. - Watch all the replays from the free Here for This Challenge! - Doors are open to Made to Do This until Friday!
How do you figure out what you're made to do? Today we're celebrating 4 amazing journeys from our awesome Made to Do This graduates! You'll hear from Sadie Simper, Katie Morland, Adrienne Mitford, and Jillian Soprano about how they entered Cathy's program seeking clarity and direction, then gathered the courage to take messy action and ask their audience what they need, pivoted in a pandemic, and began generating thousands of dollars to build an income and a life that allows them to do the work they were made to do. - Doors to Made to Do This are now open! Support all these fabulous students! Sadie Simper - Website: - Instagram: @sadiesimperdesigns Katie Morland - Website: - Facebook Group: Mommy Needs a Laugh - Instagram: @mommy_needs_a_laugh Adrienne Mitford - Website: - Instagram: @dolife.beyou - Facebook Group - LinkedIn: Jillian Soprano - Website: (Use code CATHY to get a free card with any purchase!) - Instagram: @studio.soprano - Facebook Group: - Thanks ExpressVPN! for an extra 3 months FREE on a one-year package.
When you stop chasing money, how can that lead to more wealth, prosperity and purpose? Patrice Washington, transformational speaker, coach, bestselling author, and podcaster had bounced back after the recession and thought she was doing great as "America's Money Maven." But she realized her bigger purpose was to help people redefine wealth and serve through their purpose. She shares how to give yourself permission to embrace the gift you already have, how to work on your inner trauma so your business and wellbeing can grow, why an audience of one has tremendous power, and how to surrender when all seems lost - because that's when the new version of you can emerge. - Join our free 5 day challenge (starts today!) - Get more of Patrice at - Listen to her podcast Redefining Wealth with Patrice Washington wherever you get your podcasts! - Say hi to Patrice on Instagram @seekwisdompcw - Thanks ShipStation! Try ShipStation free for 60 days at, code dreamjob.
Happy Mother's Day! In honor of all the moms and parents, Cathy and Lowell share their honest thoughts on the biggest blessings and challenges of raising their daughters, their own parents' parenting styles that had the most major impact, and their long fertility journey. - Join the free 5 day Here for This challenge!
Comments (75)

Sarah Cary

Loved this episode! Jason Mraz is one of my favorite artists AND songwriters. Listening to his story, beliefs and life-view really helped my day. And we're both from Virginia! A true inspiration.

Jun 24th

Lisa Phol

i LOVE this episode.

Jun 16th

Pauline Victoria Aughe

Cathy's programs are sure to inspire and infuse you with possibility.

May 19th

Darla Lyn

Love how real and engaging Cathy is with everyone she speaks with~ Always from the heart, to the heart ❤ & Always so Inspiring!! =)

May 19th

Nicole Moreno Diaz

I lost all hope in my future and then I found this podcast. Cathy makes you feel like you can do anything in life and the people she interviews proves that you can. I am constantly raving about this podcast and her media groups. Her interviews are detailed and always give me content to walk away with and use. I wish more podcast could be so uplifting and inspiring. I look forward to hearing her voice and encouragement. Thank you Cathy and staff for making hope feel hopeful once again.

May 19th

Jessica Shelton Mroz

I've been listening to Cathy on Don't Keep You Day Job for some time and she's the real deal! No pretense, nothing superficial, just compassion and and a desire to help others find their purpose. This is one of only a few podcasts I subscribe to because it fuels my inspiration, leaves me with new ideas, and reminds me of what is possible within myself. Cathy's book is also a great read; I recommend the audiobook, narrated by her. She has a wonderful online community and has worked so hard to fulfill her mission to help people feel seen and find their purpose. Summary: Subscribe and enjoy! It's awesome!

May 19th
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Karen Harlacher

if you are feeling some guilty pleasure in the slower pace of life during the current situation, questioning why you trade your life for a paycheck, you need to listen to this! It's time to start living and sharing your gifts. Listen to true stories of dreams come true get the inspiration you need to listen to that voice inside.

May 18th

stefanie aluia

I love Cathy Hellers Podcast! I have been listening to her for over a year. I bought her book and love it! So much information and motivation to think outside of the box. The community of encouragement that she has created is outstanding!

May 18th

Jamie Ballak

I have LOVED Cathy Heller's podcast and look forward to listening to her and her amazing guests as I go on long walks. ❤ very generous and there is always some golden nuggets to take away from her messages!

May 18th


Ever since I found Don't Keep Your Day Job, I haven't missed an interview and I'm pretty sure I've listened to the entire archive of episodes. Cathy is unstoppable. If I need motivation or just a lift to my day, she's my go-to person!

May 18th

Esther Stapleford

I discovered the podcast about a year and a half ago when I was in the dark night of the soul! And it has stuck with me ever since. It never ends to take me out of my own head and reshape my beliefs on what I can do. The ideas sometimes make me nervous which is good 😁 Because I have work to do 👊

May 18th

Lisa Phol

This episode really restored my faith.

May 18th


#MTDT — thank you!! Such a confidence builder!! I can do this!!

May 18th

Kim Melohn

I've been listening to this podcast for a while. I really enjoy it, particularly in the morning. Cathy is very high energy and her enthusiasm brings me up too. She helps get me pumped up for the day ahead.

May 18th

Ailsa ava

Past that, you'll never get the entire picture from a lounge discussion about compensation. Your associate may have aptitudes or accreditation that support their pay, or involvement with another territory that step up their pay.

May 17th

Meah Amies

This podcast and Cathy have truly changed my life! We all have the gifts, we all have the talent and we all have a purpose. What we need is to get out of our own way! Cathy is a true example and leader of taking 20 seconds of courage over and over until it becomes second nature. Getting it done is better than getting it perfect. Her words and wisdom are the answers to that sneaky little thing that's always holding us back. Thank you to you and your guests for sharing this in each episode!

Apr 16th


is this live

Jan 16th

Melissa Noakes

Thanks for the podcast episode in spite of the flu! I do wish the "links" were actually clickable links, but it's a minor inconvenience.

Jan 3rd


This podcast is such a blessing and should not be missed by anyone. Cathy is such an amazing host and not only are her guests repeatedly inspiring, but her content, questions, insights, and suggestions always leave me with a bigger heart and a greater determination to strive for my goals and dreams. Definitely my favourite and one I always mention to family, friends and even new acquaintances.

Dec 20th

Richard Ottley

great interview 👍 awesome story

Dec 16th
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